Did Mike McQueary Play in a 2nd Mile Golf Fundraiser Organized by Jerry Sandusky Just One Year After Witnessing the Alleged Shower Rape?

All, Penn State Scandal Jason McIntyre November 17th. 2011, 10:45am

Mike McQueary is shaping up as a key figure in the Penn State scandal because he allegedly witnessed Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy in the shower in 2002. Whether or not McQueary took action to physically break up the disgusting act remains unclear – all signs point to no – but he did pass along the disturbing news to coach Joe Paterno. The New York Times has a powerful story with some great reporting about how the Sandusky investigation unfolded, and McQueary comes off as a sympathetic figure (the prosecution is going to need him):

So investigators set up a meeting in an out-of-the-way parking lot, according to those with knowledge of the case.
There, one day a little over a year ago, McQueary unburdened himself, the two people said. He needed little prompting.

But Mike, how could you in good conscience witness something like that and then go play in a 2nd Mile golf fundraiser – organized by Sandusky – one year later? Very curious to see how McQueary defends himself on this one.

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119 Responses to “Did Mike McQueary Play in a 2nd Mile Golf Fundraiser Organized by Jerry Sandusky Just One Year After Witnessing the Alleged Shower Rape?”

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VladimirCrouton Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Why do doves cry?
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spencer096 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Why Did Mike McQueary Play in a 2nd Mile Golf Fundraiser Organized by Jerry Sandusky Just One Year After Witnessesing the Alleged Shower Rape?
article never says where it was played…shit, i’d play in a serena williams narcissism awareness golf outing if it was at oakmont or ridgewood.
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HuskerDawg Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:49 AM
But Mike, how could you in good conscience witness something like that and then go play in a 2nd Mile golf fundraiser – organized by Sandusky – one year later?
Because free golf is the tits, dude. Pedo-run or not, I gots to take advantage of a free round, ya heard?
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spencer096 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:49 AM
Because free golf is the tits, dude. Pedo-run or not, I gots to take advantage of a free round, ya heard?
amen. i think this story shouldn’t be about the mindless enabling of a rapist and more about the unifying power of golf.
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SouvenirCity Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:50 AM
This blog is turning into The Crucible.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
But Mike, how could you in good conscience witness something like that and then go play in a 2nd Mile golf fundraiser – organized by Sandusky – one year later? Very curious to see how McQueary defends himself on this one.
It might dent his credibility as a witness, but it’s certainly possible that he was just trying to keep up appearances while matters were sorted out by the administration (even if they were in fact not being sorted out). But I don’t think this is the damning condemnation of McQueary that you think it is. If there is a picture of him from that tournament having a great time with his arm around Sandusky, then yeah, he’s pretty fucked. But if he went to the tournament, never saw or interacted with Sandusky, then this seems a rather neutral event.
I think it’s far more damning that he claimed he emailed a report to the campus police in 2002 and campus police says they have no record of talking to him. Seems like that might be the better aspect to continue to focus on.
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payaso Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
“Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.”
Wow.
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HuskerDawg Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
TBL would like you to shut the fuck up.
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spencer096 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
those are just their conclusions they came to.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
That would ruin the narrative. Can’t have that.
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St. Bear Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
I guess we’re left to draw our own conclusions.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Maybe the ol’ redhead was wearing a wire. Maybe he was doing surveillance for the local cops. Maybe he just likes golf. I’m afraid I can’t speak intelligently on the golfing habits of Mike McQueary.
/I want the truth!
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spencer096 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:55 AM
Maybe the ol’ redhead was wearing a wire. Maybe he was doing surveillance for the local cops. Maybe he just likes golf. I’m afraid I can’t speak intelligently on the golfing habits of Mike McQueary.
/I want the truth!
truth bolded.
im pretty sure that golf could bring israelis and palestinians together, even if it was just for five hours.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Has this article been discussed? An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
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angry Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:56 AM
We get it. He should have reported the horrible offense that he allegedly witnessed to any and all authorities, both those at PSU and outside, i.e., the police, sheriff, and anyone else who would listen. Thereafter, if nothing was done he should have made a bigger issue of it by re-reporting or reporting to someone else. Also, the fact that he continued to interact and be around this alleged monster of a man is troubling. However, do we really need a new post about every intereaction they had after the alleged rape witnessing. I don’t think we do.
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sousedbergin Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
It’s the bible verse ‘do not resist an evil man’ which applies to child sodomy and golf invitations.
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ButtersBC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
That’s odd since everyone on the internet says they’d have castrated him on the spot
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MP Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
im pretty sure that golf could bring israelis and palestinians together, even if it was just for five hours.
Heard they have brutal traps on the back nine at Gaza National.
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TheBigLead Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
However, do we really need a new post about every intereaction they had after the alleged rape witnessing. I don’t think we do.
Yeah, biggest scandal in college sports history? We should probably let it go and move on.
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
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Rusty Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
im pretty sure that golf could bring israelis and palestinians together, even if it was just for five hours.
That’s how it was for North and South Korea, but it never lasted 5 hours. Kim Jong Il finished his round in 18 minutes.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
That’s odd since everyone on the internet says they’d have castrated him on the spot
And that doesn’t take into account the McGinger had grown up with Sandusky’s kids and obviously known Jerry for years.
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sousedbergin Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
That’s odd since everyone on the internet says they’d have castrated him on the spot
Also Milgram’s experiment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
/totally would have castrated the guy as it was in the late evening and the whiskey would have provided moral clarity
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
That’s odd since everyone on the internet says they’d have castrated him on the spot
Castrate him? Nah, but I would have been more haunted by not doing anything. But, I am 6 ft 4, 245 – I can hold my own in most circumstances.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
I’m pretty sure that I’d be one of those 9. The shock and disbelief that must go through one’s mind when seeing a highly respected individual committing so disgusting and reprehensible an act, I can only imagine. I would think that the first reaction would be to try to convince yourself that you did not see what you just saw.
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:01 AM
An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
Does the profiler know how many times out of 10 those people would run away and call their dads? And how many times out of 10 the dads wouldn’t suggest calling the police?
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angry Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:01 AM
That’s odd since everyone on the internet says they’d have castrated him on the spot
Classic internet tough guys. Easy to say you’ll do something when sitting at a computer somewhere not faced with the stress or plain horrificness of the moment.
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:02 AM
But, I am 6 ft 4, 245
How YOU doin?
/copying CJ
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Chief Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
How many of them are of actual quality?
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Yeah, biggest scandal in college sports history? We should probably let it go and move on.
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
If you’re going to put them out there, we have the right as commenters to register how relevant we think they are. Just as you have the right to come back in here and defend your reasoning or call us names, whichever feels best at the time.
I have to say though that I have liked about 3/4 of the coverage of this story here, even if it borders on over-saturation at times.
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Menarky Party Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
either booger red lied to the grand jury, or he lied in the email he sent because his stories dont match.
either way, he is a liar and his credibility moving forward is shaky.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Brendan Smith would’ve done something.
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phillymantis915 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
So I’ll have more time to get work done? Awesome
/let things play out before we decide to nuke Penn State brah
//wishes he was drinking heavily
///kicks rock
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:04 AM
sportsgal, I am a retired USAF O-6, presently working on a novel and volunteering in my community. Two grown kids, both out on their own. Likes women, dogs, sports, running my mouth, defending the innocent.
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kaiserwilhelmreems Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:04 AM
I think it’s far more damning that he claimed he emailed a report to the campus police in 2002 and campus police says they have no record of talking to him. Seems like that might be the better aspect to continue to focus on.
noooooo, of course not! if we talked about that, then there might be doubt cast on exactly what he told Paterno, and if that happens, it could lead to the dissolution of all the conclusions that were jumped to.
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spencer096 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Heard they have brutal traps on the back nine at Gaza National.
That’s how it was for North and South Korea, but it never lasted 5 hours. Kim Jong Il finished his round in 18 minutes.
lol.
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
even if it was just for five hours.
5 hours? shit, better let me play through.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
I personally wonder what Randolph Scott would have done.
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angry Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
However, do we really need a new post about every intereaction they had after the alleged rape witnessing. I don’t think we do.
Yeah, biggest scandal in college sports history? We should probably let it go and move on.
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
It’s your blog, Jason. Do with it what you want. I don’t think the story that he attended a golf outing adds much.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Whoops, forgot – once widowed, once divorced. Presently free. And, us old guys are more than just internet tough guys…
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HuskerDawg Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Has this article been discussed? An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
Exactly. It’s why I refuse to rip McQueary. Everyone wants to think they’ll do the right thing, but few probably would,
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
I am a retired USAF O-6
Bird colonel, eh?
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The Wayne Fontes Safari Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
What kind of outing was it? Did they just stick kegs between 4/5, 13/14, and the turn or was it an actual open beverage cart one?
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Rusty Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
sportsgal, I am a retired USAF O-6, presently working on a novel and volunteering in my community. Two grown kids, both out on their own. Likes women, dogs, sports, running my mouth, defending the innocent.
We have a honest to god kernel in our midst, people.
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Tim Ryan (TheSportsHernia) Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
I personally wonder what Randolph Scott would have done.
Randolph and Mortimer would have cleaned house.
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AssaultWithAConcreteDildo Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Hopefully he didn’t make any jokes about Sandusky working on his “short game.”
/going to hell
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Senator Jersey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
sportsgal, I am a retired USAF O-6, presently working on a novel and volunteering in my community. Two grown kids, both out on their own. Likes women, dogs, sports, running my mouth, defending the innocent.
Older guy. Veteran. Volunteer. Likes animals. SHIT, I SWORE I WAS WEARING PANTIES JUST 2 MINUTES AGO!!!
/SG’d
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
This blog is turning into The Crucible.
link?
granted there have been a couple bumps in the road, but overall, TBL’s coverage of this been fanastic.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Exactly. It’s why I refuse to rip McQueary. Everyone wants to think they’ll do the right thing, but few probably would,
And that’s because it’s pretty damn difficult to know right in that instant what the ‘right thing’ is.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:08 AM
Bird colonel, eh?
Yeah, actually. Got there as a navigator, which is pretty rare. That is how I can “retire” retire, without having to take on a new job. With the kids grown, and no wife, I can live on my retirement pay and take the mornings leaving comments here.
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Senator Jersey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
SROD: You still in San Diego/SoCal?
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Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Are we ignoring the part of the NYT article where investigators admit that Ray Gricar didn’t have enough evidence to take Sandusky to trial?
where’ve you been? of course!!!
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Trey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
This blog is turning into The Crucible
Ha!
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Menarky Party Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Exactly. It’s why I refuse to rip McQueary. Everyone wants to think they’ll do the right thing, but few probably would,
i wont rip him for hauling ass either, which he said he did in the GJ report. now he says he stopped it. okay.
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ButtersBC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
I don’t think the story that he attended a golf outing adds much.
As Clown pointed out, real media is doing the actual reporting on this story…blogs are left with the scraps
Exactly. It’s why I refuse to rip McQueary. Everyone wants to think they’ll do the right thing, but few probably would,
It’s one thing to flee the scene in a moment of shock, it’s another to settle down later on and not call the police
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Classic internet tough guys. Easy to say you’ll do something when sitting at a computer somewhere not faced with the stress or plain horrificness of the moment.
I love when people throw out the internet tough guy line but never once consider that maybe there are people out there that at least have a fucking conscience and quite possibly might just be a decent person in real life, instead of just an internet persona.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Yeah, actually. Got there as a navigator, which is pretty rare. That is how I can “retire” retire, without having to take on a new job. With the kids grown, and no wife, I can live on my retirement pay and take the mornings leaving comments here.
Well that definitely places you as the highest ranking former service member here. Sounds like you have earned the sweet life that you describe.
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Older guy. Veteran. Volunteer. Likes animals. SHIT, I SWORE I WAS WEARING PANTIES JUST 2 MINUTES AGO!!!
Actually, I was thinking I’m probably way too much of a liberal for him.
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Richt'sLeftNutIsSmarterThanChizik Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
sportsgal, I am a retired USAF O-6, presently working on a novel and volunteering in my community. Two grown kids, both out on their own. Likes women, dogs, sports, running my mouth, defending the innocent.
A novel? Who dies?
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ButtersBC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
at least have a fucking conscience
It’s not a morality thing, it’s a common psychological response
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
A quick comment – while I agree that in the shocking instant of witnessing a horrific crime, most folk would be taken aback. Something like child rape is so rare, that it would knock any of us off balance.
But, if we always stay shocked and lose sight of the harm being done, then go home thinking “I shoulda done something”, to me that guilt would be unbearable. I would rather now step in, even if it isn’t my business, than walk away and hope someone else steps in to help the innocent victim. And, in my past, I have stepped in to other circumstances (and almost got my butt stomped once or twice), but it was still the right thing to do.
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Yeah, biggest scandal in college sports history? We should probably let it go and move on.
Boom!
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ButtersBC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:13 AM
But it is one thing to flee the scene and another to not call the police once you’ve got your shit together again
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Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Exactly. It’s why I refuse to rip McQueary. Everyone wants to think they’ll do the right thing, but few probably would,
And that’s because it’s pretty damn difficult to know right in that instant what the ‘right thing’ is.
In that moment, I agree. But there is an 8-12 hour time period between the time he witnessed what he saw, and he went to Paterno’s house.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:14 AM
sportsgal, I have dated liberals before. My folks marched in the civil rights movement in the 60′s – I grew up liberal.
Richt’s – nobody actually dies. The story is about relationships (partially driven by my failed second marriage), but it is thematically opposed to the Tyler Perry/RomCom stuff that is so prevalent today. I want to look at realistic characters, and not the stuff that misleads people today.
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Trey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
i wont rip him for hauling ass either, which he said he did in the GJ report. now he says he stopped it. okay.
Grand Jury reports are only summaries of what was testified to, usually only bringing out the details that can uphold an indictment.
Grand Jury testimony itself is sealed. No one will ever know what McQueary testified to outside of what they included in the report. The fact that he could have said I went to the police, etc would usually get excluded from that report because it isn’t necessary to uphold conviction.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
In that moment, I agree. But there is an 8-12 hour time period between the time he witnessed what he saw, and he went to Paterno’s house.
Great point. I don’t want to be an apologist for anyone, but I know what I’d like to think I would have done in those 8-12 hours, but I have not, and hope to God I never am, been in that position. So I’m not sure where my head would be.
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pkiguy22 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
I will continue to rip Mcqueary because after witnessing this, NOTHING happened. I don’t care if he ran away, it’s what he did afterward that I care about. If he REALLY did enough as he claims, we would have heard about this.
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Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
It’s not a morality thing, it’s a common psychological response
or a business decision.
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Richt'sLeftNutIsSmarterThanChizik Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Richt’s – nobody actually dies. The story is about relationships (partially driven by my failed second marriage), but it is thematically opposed to the Tyler Perry/RomCom stuff that is so prevalent today. I want to look at realistic characters, and not the stuff that misleads people today.
I see. I usually ask that question when I hear people are working on a novel because without a death their ideas are usually lacking. Good luck to you, sir. I’m sure it will be great.
/ call me Ritty
// The first line of my nonexistent book.
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cracker jack Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
CJ, I don’t think you were around for this discussion yesterday… there are tentative plans for people to come to Chicago for ND/Miami football at Soldier Field next October. Will you make the trip? GG too!! Female TBLers unite!
Oh.. sorry guys. I dont think there’s any good way to sell this to the hubby.
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
But it is one thing to flee the scene and another to not call the police once you’ve got your shit together again
but then he would have never coached at Penn St. and would have probably been shunned by the whole Penn St. community, which at least in my opinion, is why he didn’t do shit at the time he saw it, or at any point after.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
ms621, I freely admit, I am stunned to be in this point. Over the years, I flew with guys who were in the squadron one day, then RIF’d the next. Flew with guys who got killed in other airframes at other squadrons. Stood over transfer cases last year as young men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice were ferried home for the last time.
I never expected to last this long. I initially wanted to do a 4-year hitch as an accounting and finance officer, get out with a master’s and CPA cert, then move back to Memphis. This isn’t the life I would have picked 30 years ago, but I am blessed and thankful.
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Menarky Party Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
The fact that he could have said I went to the police, etc would usually get excluded from that report because it isn’t necessary to uphold conviction.
to uphold a conviction of what?
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Trey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
to uphold a conviction of what?
My fault. Meant indictment.
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Tim Ryan (TheSportsHernia) Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
It’s not a morality thing, it’s a common psychological response
or a business decision.
Ha. Sad but true. Plus, it seems like the police are similar to the guys in Cop Land. I’d be worried to make such a call in that town.
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pkiguy22 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
but then he would have never coached at Penn St. and would have probably been shunned by the whole Penn St. community, which at least in my opinion, is why he didn’t do shit at the time he saw it, or at any point after.
This is where I don’t give a shit about that guy. He put himself and his job above the lives of countless kids. FUCK THIS DUDE.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Ritty, there is an epic story in each of us. Only difference is, J.K. Rowling wrote hers, I kinda write mine (when I’m not goofing off), and yours is still in your head (for now).
The lives we live have moments of pathos, grand triumph and deep sorrow. Any of those experiences can be the genesis of a moving story.
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
then move back to Memphis. This isn’t the life I would have picked 30 years ago, but I am blessed and thankful.
seems like it worked out pretty well for you, at least it kept you out of Memphis for 30 years.
/kidding (sort of)
//thanks for your service.
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MP Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
but then he would have never coached at Penn St. and would have probably been shunned by the whole Penn St. community, which at least in my opinion, is why he didn’t do shit at the time he saw it, or at any point after.
Right. Not easy to report a father figure (and virtual family member) for committing a crime when you know if might destroy your career and extradite you from the only life you’ve ever known.
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YYSA Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
The lives we live have moments of pathos, grand triumph and deep sorrow. Any of those experiences can be the genesis of a moving story.
Yea.
/unnecessary
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
We have a honest to god kernel in our midst, people.
Rusty, you know what you call a retired officer?
“Retiree”.
I am a “kernel” no more. Now I am what Charles Barkley calls “America’s worst nightmare – a black man running amok”.
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Oh.. sorry guys. I dont think there’s any good way to sell this to the hubby.
Bring him! I’m sure he would have fun.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
arkbadger, I was back in Mempho last month. My parents and siblings are still there, but there is too much madness on the streets for me to stay there. Usually, by the 5th day of my visit, I am looking at my watch, wondering when to gas up and book out of town. (LOL)
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
ms621, I freely admit, I am stunned to be in this point. Over the years, I flew with guys who were in the squadron one day, then RIF’d the next. Flew with guys who got killed in other airframes at other squadrons. Stood over transfer cases last year as young men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice were ferried home for the last time.
I never expected to last this long. I initially wanted to do a 4-year hitch as an accounting and finance officer, get out with a master’s and CPA cert, then move back to Memphis. This isn’t the life I would have picked 30 years ago, but I am blessed and thankful.
As I said, it sounds as though you have earned a nice life of retirement. I thought about service after high school and then again after college, but couldn’t make the commitment that it would entail. So I always have respect for those who spent the majority of their lives to this point serving the nation, especially when doing so has become such an unfashionable thing to do for so much of society.
I do have friends and step-brothers who served and my brother’s best friend is an academy graduate who currently is an O-3 flying F-16s out of Luke AFB. I cannot fathom what it takes to climb into the cockpit such as he does with a wife and child and know that each time there’s a possibility he may not return.
In short, your presence, at least from my point of view, is very welcome here.
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SouvenirCity Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Oh.. sorry guys. I dont think there’s any good way to sell this to the hubby.
Can he come? You can stay home and tend to the house while he gets a nice weekend away with the fellas.
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ButtersBC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Oh.. sorry guys. I dont think there’s any good way to sell this to the hubby.
Probably for the best since at some point I would bring up the Jersey’s lil’ senator as totem comment
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cracker jack Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Can he come? You can stay home and tend to the house while he gets a nice weekend away with the fellas.
LOL
Probably for the best since at some point I would bring up the Jersey’s lil’ senator as totem comment
Exactly. I can just taste the awkwardness.
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Hopboy Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Yeah, biggest scandal in college sports history? We should probably let it go and move on.
/doesn’t get it
//2-3 more Penn State posts coming today
///maybe more
To paraphrase Adam The Main Attraction Demamp….. GET HIIIIIIIM
/In MzQueary’s defense the fundraiser said:
“Several former Penn State football players and coaches will be participating.
//Doesn’t necessarily mean he actually did attend.
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Tim Ryan (TheSportsHernia) Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Oh.. sorry guys. I dont think there’s any good way to sell this to the hubby.
This is code for, “Um, no.”
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Probably for the best since at some point I would bring up the Jersey’s lil’ senator as totem comment
Exactly. I can just taste the awkwardness.
What an interesting choice of words…..
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Senator Jersey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Probably for the best since at some point I would bring up the Jersey’s lil’ senator as totem comment
Exactly. I can just taste the awkwardness.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Jersey, I am in Colo Springs. Sunny today, and Pikes Peak is covered with snow. Love the Spgs – lotsa outside stuff to do.
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TheRealAC Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Why Did Mike McQueary Play in a 2nd Mile Golf Fundraiser Organized by Jerry Sandusky Just One Year After Witnessing the Alleged Shower Rape?
because golf is awesome.
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Senator Jersey Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Jersey, I am in Colo Springs. Sunny today, and Pikes Peak is covered with snow. Love the Spgs – lotsa outside stuff to do.
Awesome. Never been to Colorado. But it seems like anyone who lives there or visits always loves it out there.
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SouvenirCity Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
This Gingerbread latte is really good.
/takes mancard out of European carry-all and places on table
//at least I didn’t pay for it
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sportsgal116 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
CJ, even Cleet said he was going to go!! I can’t be the only girl.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Ms621, when I have been in military-friendly towns like San Antonio and the Springs, even though a lot of folk haven’t actually served, their active support is needed and appreciated. At my church, we have a military ministry that reaches out to deployed members. Most of our group haven’t served personally, but they “get it” – they understand what it means. I don’t get to this point without support from people like you.
Also, your brother’s friend flying Vipers is truly at the tip of the spear. The men and women flying fast movers are rock stars, and across the rest of the USAF there is a bit of envy.
In addition, being a USAFA grad gives that fighter driver a leg up on becoming a commander later and perhaps even a general officer. Pretty cool stuff.
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
arkbadger, I was back in Mempho last month.
a quick Memphis question then, do people that are from/live there go to rendesvous, or is that more of a touristy place? I love it and go when whenever I am in the area, but is there other places to go that are better? I’d love a little hidden gem to break out next time I am there.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Jersey, Denver International is a fairly accessible airport, although it is well east of the city. Over 300 sunlit days per year, fresh air, plenty of room.
San Diego is my fave city in the CONUS, but Colorado is more affordable.
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sousedbergin Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
An FBI psychological profiler and expert in child crimes says that 9 times out of 10, people would run from that horrific scene.
Fuck off Spooky Mulder.
Would love to know what the control group was for the 9/10 people would run from witnessing child rape
/Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
arkbadger, I know locals who still enjoy the Rendezvous. Others prefer Corky’s. I liked the Public Eye in Midtown when I was at Memphis State, but they may be gone by now.
My mom hits some of the smaller mom-n-pop-sized places. Word of mouth is a good indicator of BBQ worth trying.
I grew up on Loeb’s pulled pork sandwiches, but I don’t think there have been any Loeb’s open for decades.
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Menarky Party Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
/Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.
so awesome.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
In addition, being a USAFA grad gives that fighter driver a leg up on becoming a commander later and perhaps even a general officer. Pretty cool stuff.
I don’t know if he’s decided to be a ‘lifer’ or not. His wife is also in the service; they met at the academy. So she fully understands the life. But he’s already been to Japan and also logged 250 hours over Iraq. So he’s been there, done that in a very short period of time.
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ms621 Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Anyway, SROD, good to have you here.
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Big Hoss Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
I can promise that no one on the planet has done a better job of turning McQueary into a sympathetic figure than TBL.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
ms621, hanging here with all of you is a hoot. I lurked for a couple of years before making any comments, just for the back and forth. Between Paolo, sportsgal and others, I found myself laughing out loud several times a day at stuff written here.
I may not comment on every post, but I read and enjoy the smartass remarks.
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HawkEye Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Between Paolo, sportsgal and others
You have been lurking for a while.
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phatjohnsn Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Between Paolo, sportsgal and others, I found myself laughing out loud several times a day at stuff written here.
I may not comment on every post, but I read and enjoy the smartass remarks.
Agreed.
/Thanks for the service!
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mizerle06 asks for the autoplay to be turned off Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
did someone say Rendezvous!?
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Miz, heck yeah. I could go for some dry rub ribs now, for sure.
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mizerle06 asks for the autoplay to be turned off Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Miz, heck yeah. I could go for some dry rub ribs now, for sure.
my wife and I were talking about Rendezvous just last weekend. that picture was taken October 2010. I had a work trip to Memphis and got to catch the Tigers season opening hoops game and eat Rendezvous all in the same night. nomnomnomnom.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
TBL would like you to shut the fuck up.
Needs more /whiny little bitch
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
did someone say Rendezvous!?
/drools uncontrollably
I also just looked and it said the Public Eye closed down in 2000. I’m with you though on listening to the locals. there is a place in Little Rock called Sims that is awesome and I don’t think many people know about.
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mizerle06 asks for the autoplay to be turned off Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
I also just looked and it said the Public Eye closed down in 2000. I’m with you though on listening to the locals. there is a place in Little Rock called Sims that is awesome and I don’t think many people know about.
there’s a place I ate at a few times in grad school that’s between the U of Memphis and the Liberty Bowl stadium on the same road (Central Ave maybe?). it’s kindof a hole-in-the-wall place, but phenomenal. you walk out smelling like you were on the pit.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Dang, Miz. That pic looks great. One bad thing about COLO, not a lot of locals here know about BBQ. Gotta find a transplant from the south to get great ribs.
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arkbadger Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
One bad thing about COLO, not a lot of locals here know about BBQ.
I grew up in Wisconsin and sometimes when I go home my mom tells me there is BBQ in the fridge. I open it up and see sloppy joes. I weep for her every time it happens. I think my blank expression usually tells her what she needs to know.
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mizerle06 asks for the autoplay to be turned off Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Dang, Miz. That pic looks great. One bad thing about COLO, not a lot of locals here know about BBQ. Gotta find a transplant from the south to get great ribs.
every year since I’ve moved to FL, my parents have sent me Corky’s ribs for my birthday. just received three racks packed in dry ice yesterday. w00t!
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 17th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
every year since I’ve moved to FL, my parents have sent me Corky’s ribs for my birthday. just received three racks packed in dry ice yesterday. w00t!
Heck yeah! That’s what I’m talking about.