The Penn State Scandal: We Need to Be Open and Honest With Children and Ourselves When It Comes to Sexual Abuse
I sat down and talked to my 8-year-old son about sexual abuse this week. We talked about Jerry Sandusky, not in graphic detail, but in how he pretended to care for kids and be friendly and what he did. We talked about what is appropriate and not. We talked about how, no matter what, no matter who, and no matter what threats you received, you must talk to us and we will always protect you.
It’s not an easy conversation, and it was one that was overdue. We tend to think that children can’t handle these things. We preserve their innocence, and we think it too unspeakable. In doing so, we can let others teach different lessons instead. We often lay the seeds that allow sexual abuse to thrive behind closed doors and in whispers.
It is easy to demonize the leadership at Penn State, and think you would do differently. To tsk-tsk Mike McQueary for not doing enough, or to lambast Paterno as the face of the program. It’s easier for US to compartmentalize it as THEM — the morally bankrupt failures — out there in secluded Happy Valley. Penn State was a massive institutional failure, made up of individual ones. None of those individual ones are all that uncommon in these situations.
In a prior life, I worked with a child protection agency. Never dealt with anything remotely like this, but there were certainly plenty of abuse cases. In situations where someone knows the victim and the perpetrator, you know who they overwhelmingly support or enable?
The perpetrator.
People minimize, rationalize, make excuses, ignore evidence, and generally don’t want to believe sexual abuse occurred in their family or neighborhood. It’s not called the family secret for nothing. It’s not the epidemic that it is because people confront it and “do the right thing” at every opportunity when dealing with protection of children. Penn State was a large family, a large hierarchy, and Jerry Sandusky was the equivalent of Uncle Jerry, the dirty secret no one wanted to confront or deal with.
In an excellent piece by Wayne Drehs of ESPN on Mike McQueary, he quotes a former FBI expert on child abuse, who herself had to deal with being a whistleblower against a fellow employee, and struggled against the institution trying to protect its own. She doesn’t think Mike McQueary’s response to seeing a rape of a young child by a man he knew his entire life would be out of the ordinary, despite what most people think they would do.
“You’re trying to comprehend something your brain can’t handle,” Turner said. “You can’t rationalize it. Compute it. Handle it. Most people turn around and walk away. And then they try to figure out, ‘Oh my God. What the hell did I just see?’ The people who say they would go in there and break it up? They’re wrong. Nine times out of 10, that’s just not how the human brain works.”
Early this morning, Sarah Ganim of the Patriot-News posted a story that the Sandusky interview with Bob Costas has prompted others to come forward, one as far back as the 1970′s. People who have suppressed the memories have been emboldened finally, and are dealing with the trauma all over again, though many still fear whether they should go public. According to the story, “Some of those who talked to Shubin are afraid of retribution from Penn State-crazed fans, or being blamed — like one victim — for the downfall of Joe Paterno.”
That response, that dreadful response and fear of reprisal from others for hurting someone who actually isn’t the true victim, needs to end. It’s too typical, though. I have no doubt that there are victims out there from long ago, afraid to come forward. Part embarrassment, part fear of the response that people have to protect the things they love, no matter how misguided.
Sandusky didn’t become a pedophile in 1998. Sandusky is in defense denial mode, and may never talk, but I suspect that he himself may have been a victim turned perpetrator on a grand scale. Going through his book, when he was 12, his family moved into an upstairs apartment in the Brownson House, a community center where numerous people frequented (or the Bug House, as Sandusky referred to it, because of all “the ‘buggy’ people who ventured through its doors”).
It’s not comfortable to think that one of those people that ventured through may have perpetrated the same acts on a young boy back in Apple Pie, Two Fords in every drive, 1950′s Pennsylvania, because he is now the monster. It’s what makes the monster grow, our avoidance, our ignorance, our hiding behind the great lie. It’s what allows it to grow, and in this case to grow to unspeakable depths and horror. We can’t hide anymore.
I say all this not to minimize the role that every adult who had an opportunity in 1998, or 2000, or 2002, had to stop this. I believe Paterno needed to resign even if he met whatever bare legal requirement existed, and the failures at each level need to be pointed out and explored.
However, if we just think this is a Penn State and Paterno problem, that the world would have magically been a better place had any of us been there instead, then we’ve learned nothing. We need to examine why this can happen in football — the macho mentality, the fear of disclosing sex acts with an older male, the oversight of coaches with access and power over youth, the power that the internal “protect the team at all costs” attitude has to hide wrongdoing.
We also need to fight our own human instincts. Recognize them, not pretend we are flawless moral beings. We need to empower victims, let them know they are not alone. What happens to the least of us, happens to all us. Let them know that this is an institutional failure — not the institution in Penn State, but the human one. This is not their cross to bear alone for being a child who was not protected. It is on all of us.
[photo via Getty]


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November 17th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
/looks at byline.
Needs more stats.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:24 PM
If I had walked in on that Sandusky would not have left under his own power. Just give me a reason.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Standing ovation, best thing written about this entire thing on this website.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Jason Lisk: Thank you. Seriously man, great job. I have nothing more to add than that.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Great read Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Bravo sir! Bra-vo!!
November 17th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Great Lisk. We also explained the whole thing to my step-daughter.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
/takes booze-filled car from RKDS
//Gives said car to Lisk
November 17th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
I obviously don’t click links…was there a study that shows this? Or is this her opinion?
/This needs more Lisktistical evidence
November 17th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Phenomenal work, Mr. Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
These posts should all have boobs in them.
/NSFW
//yes the first one’s last name is actually ‘Banghard’ and, to my knowledge, she is not a porn star
November 17th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Now the ex and I just have to figure out how to talk to our 2 boys about this.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Go home and hug your kids. Just not too hard.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
nice read Lisk, well said.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
I cringe at having to have this talk with my young daughters. But you have to do it, otherwise they will think twice before telling you if something is done to them.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
i did this with my son, too. The hardest part was getting him to understand what a rusty trombone was.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Excellent work Jason. Bravo.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
This and Lisk’s Thanksgiving post last year are my favorites that he’s done here thus far. Nothin’ but net.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
this video is better than boobs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF7b_MNEIAg&feature=youtu.be
November 17th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Bravo Lisk, that was very well written. Great take on things.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
The Halloween candy one and the NFL anagrams were solid as well. This one is straight from the heart though. Just an awesome job.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Awesome job.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
DId you explain to your kid what rhythmic slap slap slapping was?
/seriously though, very well said
November 17th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
devang, straight talk’s best
November 17th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Damn, great stuff.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
I concur with the group, Lisk. Thanks for the clarity. Hard truths, but truths nonetheless.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Great job Lisk.
Its a very hard subject to talk about but, I tell my son all the time if anybody touches his butt, penis or makes him feel scared to tell either me or his mom. It sucks having to talk to your kid about thattype of thing but, as a parent you have to let them know you are there to protect them.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
My kids are across the street right now. Playing with the neighbors. The father who is home is a NYC Transit cop. Good guy but now I’m paranoid. Sad that we have to live in a world where this happens.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Also, very good writeup Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Good stuff Lisk!
November 17th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
The Halloween candy one and the NFL anagrams were solid as well.
Forgot the Halloween one, that was really good.
/wonder how Bobby Hull feels about your disdain for grown men going by “Bobby”?
November 17th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Agreeing to have this conversation with our son is one of the only things my ex and I could agree on recently.
Great post, Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
My kids are across the street right now. Playing with the neighbors. The father who is home is a NYC Transit cop. Good guy but now I’m paranoid. Sad that we have to live in a world where this happens.
i’m guessing that wouldn;t be the reason you;re looking for
November 17th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
He beat his wife. Great hockey player, but he’s not exactly a good guy. Besides, he goes by the Golden Jet.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
I am thankful I don’t have kids right now and have to go through this. I couldn’t even begin to imagine having this kind of talk. Bravo to all of you dads on here taking care of it and going through it.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Does the Golden Jet still have that squirrel that looked like it died on his head?
November 17th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Great post Lisk. The wife and I need to talk to my oldest about this. I appreciate you putting your personal story of talking to your child out here.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
eh….Great job!
November 17th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
I am thankful I don’t have kids right now and have to go through this. I couldn’t even begin to imagine having this kind of talk. Bravo to all of you dads on here taking care of it and going through it.
we have to come up with customized messages due to demographics…one 11yo, 1 supersmart 6yo and twin 4yo who are rockheads
November 17th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Yup. Face still looks like Clayface from Batman, too. His alcoholism has really made him age quickly the last few years. Stan is in the best shape out of all of them. He just beat cancer as well.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Bravo as usual for Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
/stands and applauds
November 17th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Question for those with older children. At what age did you start to discuss this sort of thing with your kids?
November 17th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Fantastic post, Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
we have to come up with customized messages due to demographics…one 11yo, 1 supersmart 6yo and twin 4yo who are rockheads
Sometimes the rockheads are the most fun.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
not sure what older means zeus, but we’ve been talking with the 11yo since he could understand. it’s an ongoing thing. really not possible to harp on it too much
November 17th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
Great stuff, really really good. /everyone (including me)
Terrible, at no point did you attempt to lead the reader to a crazy conclusion. You failed to portray an entire community as callous pedo lovers. And for christs sake, tell people to read the word of god known as the grand jury report. /TBL
November 17th, 2011 at 4:55 PM
Question for those with older children. At what age did you start to discuss this sort of thing with your kids?
Oldest is 13. This week. Probably should be sooner with the others.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
We’ve made it 50 comments without any seething anger, which truly means this was exceptional, Lisk. Nice job.
November 17th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Sometimes the rockheads are the most fun.
yep, term of affection. is a nice change of pace from their sister who was reading at 4. they’ll be fine, and i kind of want a son who is a drooling jock and speaks in grunts
November 17th, 2011 at 5:01 PM
OT
Just found out my boss is letting me have tomorrow AND M-W next week off work! Looks like I can enjoy a few more tasty alcoholic beverages at the game tonight.
/OT
November 17th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
work-off fist pump!!! yeah!!!!
November 17th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
Nice post Lisk, but I will need to see some data that supports that
9 out of 10 statistic…
November 17th, 2011 at 5:07 PM
not sure what older means zeus, but we’ve been talking with the 11yo since he could understand.
My little guy is only two, not sure he would understand at this point.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Definitely, I was super stoked to hear that.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
Standing O, Lisk. Very well done.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:13 PM
Damn Beef, have you been really busting your ass lately or something?
November 17th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
Awesome stuff, Mr. Lisk.
So glad I’m not a father right now.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:17 PM
Quite the opposite actually. Idk if you know, but I’m a paralegal and so I have to bill every minute of my time to either a client or the firm. It’s currently a slow period in the cases I’m working on, so it’s a great time to take time off and keep some hours off the client’s bill. It goes in waves though, 2 weeks I worked 20 hours over the weekend and now I’m about to have a lot of time off.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Damn Beef, have you been really busting your ass lately or something?
cmon now, he’s training to be a lawyer
November 17th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
So glad I’m not a father right now.
unless there’s a cure coming up, it ain’t going away
November 17th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
Let him know what his private parts are and build from there as he gets older. But the first lesson is that his privates are off limits. Is he in daycare? Is he potty trained?
November 17th, 2011 at 5:22 PM
I really don’t want to be a lawyer, I’d prefer to be a senior paralegal. That way I don’t have all the responsibility lawyers have, and I’ll be able to have a team of paralegals working under me that I can delegate to. My boss takes off some mornings to go golfing and strolls in around 10:30-11 on normal days. He also gets to do most of the traveling for depositions and trials, and I only get to go if the jobs are large enough to warrant it. The trip I took to Atlanta last month was my first solo trip for a deposition.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
But the first lesson is that his privates are off limits.
We’ve dont that. Yes to daycare and potty training.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Nice job, Jason.
I have a 20 year old son and an 11 year old son. I talked with them this week. This is true …
My message to the 11 year old – if anyone ever touches you and asks you to do anything you’re not comfortable with, try to walk away calmly to tell someone you trust. Otherwise, poke their eyes out and run for help.
My message to the 20 year old – Always, always, always defend the weak. No matter who you have to defend them from.
They get it. But you just never know how they’ll react in a moment of pressure.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
But you just never know how they’ll react in a moment of pressure.
same goes for any emergency really. my kids will stop drop and roll if someone breaks in the house
November 17th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
same goes for any emergency really. my kids will stop drop and roll if someone breaks in the house
Fantastic.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:28 PM
Yea, there really isn’t any time I want to be a father at this point, except for those awesome father/child moments.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:30 PM
live it up chief, but mostly do the things that get really expensive once you add bodies to the family. mainly, travel
November 17th, 2011 at 5:32 PM
Yea, there really isn’t any time I want to be a father at this point, except for those awesome father/child moments.
Being a father is awesome, yet exhausting.
The abuse talk wasn’t even the low point of the week.
My wife asked my son what he wanted for Christmas. Reply: “I want to hang out with Jake Austin, ask him his secrets with the ladies.” /facepalm.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
If someone breaks in my house, I’ll have to race my 11 year old to the firearms. Luckily, he doesn’t have a key, but he’d probably try busting the box open with a hammer. He can shoot lights out with the Walther P22. He won’t kill a robber, but he’ll fill him full of holes in the general chest region fo sho.
btw – he doesn’t know where the S&W 3906 is. (I hope he doesn’t?!?)
November 17th, 2011 at 5:34 PM
Hilarious.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:40 PM
I had to google who Jake Austin is…still have no clue.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
I was curious as well, just not curious enough to google it.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:46 PM
with that name, i’m picturing GI Joe mated with the 6 million dollar man
November 17th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
All pictures and first two links are about a Disney kid, then the third link is a twitter profile of an adult film star…so…
November 17th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
well said.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:49 PM
This post may have the highest % of “good posts” for anything written in a long time here. Fantastic piece, Lisk… how well did your kid understand what you were talking about? Anyone with kids, at what age are they able to comprehend this sort of right and wrong and know when to go to an adult with something inappropriate?
November 17th, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Nevermind… I see the discussion above. Really, a great piece Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
google with the safe search off is so awesome.
November 17th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
Broccoli Beef is the n00b paralegal from Suits?
November 17th, 2011 at 5:58 PM
Home computer, so I have no problems.
Just googled a porn star, try it with safe search on, 63k results, safe search off, 13M.
November 17th, 2011 at 6:08 PM
Great point, and to all the people asking for statistical evidence there is a reason self defense schools tell women to yell “Fire” and not “help”. People talk a big game but most people fail to act.
Fantastic post Mr. Lisk.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:08 PM
It’s not called the family secret for nothing.
There is where you are mistaken in your analogy: Penn State football is an organization that revolves around a sports team. It is not a ‘family’.
It is a profit-making enterprise that includes a strict hierarchy of managers of adults who have NO true familial bonds. They are more akin to a business than a true family.
This is nothing more than a dysfunctional organization where people were afraid to upset the benevolent king or be cast out for what they suspected or knew, which was that children were being sexually abused.
Please don’t make Penn State football to be anything more than what they are: simply a group of people who thought more of the myth of their organization than protecting children.
November 17th, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Excellent, thoughtful, and thought-provoking post. Thank you.
I have two kids, 6 and 4, and I am a victim of child sex abuse (stranger at camp) myself–this conversation needs to be had with your children, at whatever level you and they are ready for. I spent years and years trying to get over what happened to me; I had no idea who to talk to, what to do, anything. My parents weren’t bad parents, they just didn’t know either. It’s a shame that our kids have to be wary of something like this, but believe me–it could make a huge difference.
And hearing Sandusky’s interview–he could’ve been they guy who assaulted me 25 years ago. Same lines: “horseplay,” “innocent touching,” “affectionate”–he’s a predator through and through. This whole thing has dredged up a lot from my memories,which sucks, but it’s also been gratifying to see the response in terms of people being held accountable and justice beginning to get done. That never happened in my case, and it doesn’t happen in a lot of other peoples’ cases either.
Being assaulted is like being vandalized–I can go for a while without thinking about it, but then something happens to open the curtain, and there’s his name, carved into me. It never gets completely better, and it never goes completely away.
I hope this never happens to anyone else’s kids. All of you who have had the talk, or are planning on doing so with your children, please know that it may be awkward, but it’s one the most important things you can do for them. Knowledge is empowering.
Lisk, thank you for posting this. Commentariat, thanks for what you’ve said as well. It helps restore my faith in humanity.
/Sorry so serious
//My next post will be a fart joke or something.
///But go hug your kids.