The Texans’ Playoff Chances Without Matt Schaub: Forget Favre, Is Warner Interested?
I was all set to write about the Houston Texans being the favorite to get the #1 seed in the AFC after their dominating victory at Tampa Bay, coupled with the Ravens losing a third road game against an inferior opponent. That was based not only on their play, but their schedule, which should see them favored in every remaining game, often by a large margin. Then, the Matt Schaub news hit that he will be out for the season with a foot injury.
To try to estimate Matt Schaub’s injury impact, I went through every season since 2002 where a team had a starter who played in between 9 and 13 games, and had a winning record, and compared the passing numbers and W-L record with the starter and the backup. I included some cases like Ben Roethlisberger last year, even though he didn’t start the season because of the suspension, because those first four games fit what we are trying to look at here.
Anyway, over the last 9 years, there were 26 cases that fit that description. The starting quarterbacks averaged 5.99 Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANYA). The backups averaged 4.66 ANYA, so a 1.33 adjusted yard drop off. More importantly, for our purposes, the starters had a .670 win percentage versus a .487 win percentage for the backups, an average drop of -.182.
The Texans are 7-3 record heading into the bye. Advanced NFL Stats had them as one of the best teams in the league with Schaub, with a 0.73 Game Winning Probability (GWP) against a league average opponent. Dropping their expected win percentage with a backup would take them to a .55 GWP team, still slightly above average. They still have a strong offensive line and running game, Andre Johnson is returning, and the defense is still a top ten unit. They will not fall apart, though the margins of error shrink.
The schedule still saves them here. The tougher games are at home, as they get Atlanta, Carolina and Tennessee in Houston. They should still be favored with home field advantage against all three, though the margins will drop. They also get Indianapolis and Jacksonville on the road, two games where they should still be favored. The final one is at Cincinnati, which combined with the cold weather for a warm weather team, could be a challenge in December.
Overall, the Texans were probably looking at a projected win total of almost 5 wins over the last 6. That would have put them at almost 12 wins, likely in contention for the #1 seed and a first round bye. With a backup like Leinart, that projection falls to 3.8 wins over the last 6, and about 10.8 wins on the season. That should be good enough to still win the division, but puts a first round bye in jeopardy.
Of course, we can also look at the Matt Leinart end of the spectrum. He started games in four different seasons in Arizona, opposite Kurt Warner each time. Warner outplayed him each year, and in the seasons in which both started, Warner averaged 6.37 ANYA to 4.83 for Leinart. That -1.54 dropoff in ANYA from Warner to Leinart was a little larger than our average for a starter to backup decline, but then again, Warner is a better than average top starter. I think that sample size shows us that we can expect typical backup numbers for Leinart, and shouldn’t expect him to suddenly become a star. I’m comfortable saying the Texans should expect somewhere between a 1.2 and 1.5 drop in ANYA from Schaub to Leinart.
Of course, they could go outside rather than rely on Matt Leinart. The trade deadline has passed and so any solution has to be not on a roster. Pro Football Talk has already suggested they contact Favre. He’ll be a popular name, though after last season, you have to have concerns. He’s still probably a better option at his age than Leinart.
I might be placing a call, though, to the guy who consistently proved he was much better than Leinart over a five year period, and who is now a NFL Network commentator. I know he has been out for a year, but Kurt Warner may still be the best option. It’s worth a call to see if he is done for good, or whether he has interest in a Roger Clemens-like set up where he gets one last short stretch of games before riding off in the sunset. He can come in and play against an easy schedule and with a strong running game, to get ready for the playoffs. If he can still play, the Texans might have a chance to still make some noise once they get there.
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November 15th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
will the Texans use the Broncos game plan the rest of the season?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Good post, Lisk. Really like your idea. Warner in Houston would be fun to watch if he’s interested. He could definitely throw some jump balls for Dre 3000. Not even the best receiver in football can make Leinart look like an NFL caliber quarterback.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Troy Smith.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
/Texans are fucked.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
what’s Jeff George doing these days?
/that one guy
November 15th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Nice post.
I’d rather have Leinart that Favre and keep the mess that surrounds him away.
Warner for 6 games plus the playoffs would be interesting. He’d probably just start hitting stride those last two regular season games.
Hey – btw – anyone know when Assassin’s Creed is released?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
The Texans are fucked as far as contending for a Super Bowl, but with that OL and those two RBs, they can still cruise into the playoffs in my opinion as their division is dogshit. Though I will say the HOU-ATL game just got a lot more interesting. Before Schaub went down I was chalking that up to a beat down. Maybe now Atl can steal one.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
what’s Jeff George doing these days?
/that one fat guy
November 15th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
that’s my original comment at #1 which is still in moderation…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Is Leinart worse than Tebow or Alex Smith?
He’s older(more mature) with Dre back for next game, two stud running backs and safety valve Dreesen and Daniels he should be alright.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Last I heard, Ryan Leaf was in Texas facing drug distribution charges
November 15th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
/Texans are fucked.
Yep.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Is Leinart worse than Tebow or Alex Smith?
Alex Smith is better than Leinart. And Leinart can’t run the read option.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
He’s older(more mature) with Dre back for next game, two stud running backs and safety valve Dreesen and Daniels he should be alright.
… but he’s always just sucked. No?
Maybe now Atl can steal one.
Good call – interesting game that’ll be – 100+ rushing plays …
November 15th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
So what’s the deal with Stanzi, Lisk? They going to wait until the season is completely in the dumpster or what?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Last I heard, Ryan Leaf was in Texas facing drug distribution charges
In June of this year, he had surgery to remove a tumor.
At least according to this blog which apparently is following Leaf’s life.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
So what’s the deal with Stanzi, Lisk? They going to wait until the season is completely in the dumpster or what?
They probably don’t think he’s ready, though Palko is also not ready. So they may say one thing, and you could still see him later in the year.
Newton and Dalton have us thinking most rookies can play right away, but it’s generally not a good idea.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Houston is just cursed. Plain and simple.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
/Texans are fucked.\
rex grossman did get the bears to a SB…
November 15th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
… but he’s always just sucked. No?
he would have been better if he had some good receivers to throw to during his time in Arizona. Bunch a scrubs there.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:38 AM
i have no faith in leinart to do anything good. i will be shocked if he does. sadly, we have no options. too late for warner and farve, even if i did want them.
yesterday, the texans were 2nd favs to win the afc just behing the pats. as skeptical as i am on the texans, i was starting to think this could actually work- great d, great run game, top 3 wr coming back. bud adams is laughing his sorry ass off.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
December 18th against the Packers would be a fine time to make an NFL debut
Nearly two full years out of the game, I’d be shocked if Warner is in game shape since he seemed pretty content with being done…if Garrard hadn’t needed surgery this might have been a decent stop for him
November 15th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
I’m willing to wait a couple weeks for them to unleash the Stanzi. You can bet your ass I’ll be tuned in to that Chiefs game like there’s nothing else on when he eventually plays.
/Team Freedom
//Love it or leave it
November 15th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Kurt Warner.
/Flat-topped
//Fumble’d
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Going outside of the current roster is not Kubiak’s style. He believes in Leinart, so I think we’re stuck with him.
After the Bucs game, I truly believed the Texans could contend for a Super Bowl title. This is really shitty.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Barnwell blames Whisenhunt
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
I was hoping for two weeks prior against the Bears. That way he can get the mistakes out against a real defense and he’s ready to torch Green Bay’s middle school secondary on the 18th.
Anyone else think it’s weird the Bears have all their AFC West games in a row here? 4 straight.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Palko >>> Flacco
November 15th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Kurt Warner.
/Flat-topped
Is that a reference to how his wife used to look?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
i don’t know the man personally, but based on everything i’ve heard about him, there’s no way he comes back
interesting thought though.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Stanzi couldn’t torch Big Ten defenses, there’s a point where trolling delves too deep into nonsense
November 15th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
I assume Leinart has been humbled by his career path and worked a lot harder than he did in Arizona. He’ll be better than people are expecting.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
TJ Yates by week 13.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Zool?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
TJ Yates by week 13.
Indeed. I foresee a post by Lisk in the coming weeks which analyzes teams that fell apart late in the season just as everything seemed to be going right. It’ll have lots of statistics I’ve never heard of. But I’ll still read it.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Stanzi couldn’t torch Big Ten defensesthat weren’t coached by Greg Robinson, there’s a point where trolling delves too deep into nonsense.
**Obligatory
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
I do still believe this team can win a playoff game with Leinart. If Sexy Rexy can do it in Chicago, Leinart can do it too.
Then he will smash sorority whores all off-season and generally live the greatest life ever.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
it’s really hard to be worse than the last time he was seen in a starting role.
who gets a championship ring as a backup first, Vince Young or Matt Leinart?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Zool?
She used to bear a slight resemblance.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
He might be more out of shape than week 1 Rex Grossman from what I’ve heard. Doughboy.
Hard to torch some of the best defenses in the nation. Stanzi was able to shred the dregs of the league like Michigan State though.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Jay Cutler
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
They probably don’t think he’s ready, though Palko is also not ready.
Palko >>> Flacco
But is Leinart > Palko? Or Palko > Leinart?
As for the Texans, well, it’s another in the long list of bad breaks that’ll keep that team stuck in mediocrity and 8-8 Land
November 15th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
/Arizona fans every year after his rookie campaign
November 15th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
6 of one*, half dozen of the other…
*interceptions
November 15th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
who gets a championship ring as a backup first, Vince Young or Matt Leinart?
Jay Cutler
Matt Flynn
/already got one
November 15th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
As for the Texans, well, it’s another in the long list of bad breaks that’ll keep that team stuck in mediocrity and 8-8 Land
We’ll be good one day. In the future.
What worries me about breaks like this is that Andre Johnson isn’t getting any younger.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
she didn’t look like Zool, she looked like Gozer the Gozerian.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
VY will need to find a new team, maybe if Matt Flynn leaves McCarthy will try to make a passer out of him yet
That turned out to be a rough QB draft when you consider Jay Cutler ends up being the best by default
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
If Leinert sucks and they fall to 8-8, does that buy Kubiak another year because of the bad luck?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Matt Flynn
Green Bay has an embarrassment of riches on offense and it’s starting to get annoying.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
she didn’t look like Zool, she looked like Gozer the Gozerian.
My mistake. Thanks miz.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
he pulled a Mike Dexter?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
This may be true, but let’s not pretend that Matt Flynn is a significant part of those riches. I think we’ve proven what the New England secondary does to crappy QB’s.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
I would too. Whisenhunt made a moronic decision regarding his QB situation.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
There is no Dana, only Zool.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
no bigge…I just take that shit seriously, brah.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
We’ll be good one day. In the future.
The plus is you have a rich owner who will work on making sure you’re not lacking for talent. And as Manning gets older, the division should be more up for grabs.
But I don’t trust Kubiak. I don’t like Kubiak. I think he’s a great OC maskerading as a HC.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Poor James Jones, probably would be seeing a lot passes if he had signed elsewhere, got a nice contract though and once Driver retires he’ll take his step up
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Can I pick up Warner in fantasy on the off chance he signs with the Texans.
/ thinking that could be a fantasy bonanza
November 15th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
And they keep staying Kubiak’d. It’s a lose-lose situation.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
If Leinert sucks and they fall to 8-8, does that buy Kubiak another year because of the bad luck?
This is one of those circumstances where you can sort of back off the preseason proclamation that if the Texans don’t win the division and get into the playoffs this year, then Kubiak should be gone. Wade Phillips has managed a small miracle with the defense. Having cap space to add players like Joseph and Manning in the second helps, but the team has taken to the new alignment. And Kubiak finally had the offense running like we expected it to be for a few years now. That has to buy Kubiak something.
If we do as Lisk states above, get to 10 wins, win the division, and make the playoffs I think that buys Kubiak another year. If we fall to 8-8, I think people will wonder about how the injuries affected us, but ultimately McNair will want to go with someone new.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
She’s not my girlfriend. I find her interesting because she’s a client and because she sleeps above her covers…four feet above her covers.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
correction 1: with a salary cap, smart owner >>> rich owner (see: Snyder, Dan)
correction 2: Manning and Luck are going to play together next year, like Duncan and Robinson
November 15th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Sometimes it’s hard to be the diamond in the rough. Jay really carrying the load for that QB class. Charlie Whitehurst bringing up 2nd place.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
This may be true, but let’s not pretend that Matt Flynn is a significant part of those riches. I think we’ve proven what the New England secondary does to crappy QB’s.
Fair point.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
lets see how leinart plays first before we go suggesting bringing in a QB who’s never played in this offense and hasn’t played a game since forever ago.
/can’t believe you suggested that
November 15th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Their slightly above average quarterback doesn’t share your sentiments. He’s loving it.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
9 will do it if they beat TN. I’ve seen the Titans play… unimpressive is generous, and I saw them in a win (over Denver).
November 15th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
jesus, what does that mean for Sanchez?
November 15th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
lets see how leinart plays first before we go suggesting bringing in a QB who’s never played in this offense and hasn’t played a game since forever ago.
Agree with this. I hope to God we don’t call Favre. We don’t need to add the circus that would come with him to this season.
I have a feeling that Kubiak will go with Leinart, almost no matter what, unless he gets injured or Schaub suddenly gets better.
November 15th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
the end.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
The Fake Rex Ryan when they cut him this offseason is going to be EPIC.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
I had to check to see if David Carr was on an NFL roster before making a joke about getting the band back together but it appears as if he’s an Eli Manning injury away from returning to glory
November 15th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
I’ll take Sanchez on the Lions. Megatron can make him a star.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Manning and Luck are going to play together next year, like Duncan and Robinson
Is Luck going to line up out wide?
jesus, what does that mean for Sanchez?
Less chimichanga lovemaking with supermodels?
November 15th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
I had to check to see if David Carr was on an NFL roster before making a joke about getting the band back together but it appears as if he’s an Eli Manning injury away from returning to glory
He’s been the backup there for awhile now I thought. Giants fans better hope that Peyton’s neck afflictions are not genetic.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
You’re gonna endanger us. You’re gonna endanger the nice lady who paid us in advance… before she became a dog.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Young (3)
Leinert (10)
Cutler (11)
K. Clemens (49)
T. Jackson (64)
Whitehurst (81)
Croyle (85)
Brad Smith (103)
Ingle Martin (148)
Omar Jacobs (164)
Reggie McNeal (193)
Bruce Gradkowski (194)
DJ Shockley (223)
I’m putting Brad Smith at #2
Also… Tramon Williams was a UFA in that draft. Oops.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
such a great movie that only gets funnier the older you get.
deleted scene with murray and aykroyd playing bums in central park is amazing.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
You can’t wait…they’ve seen him in practice, they know what they’ve got. If you can upgrade, you do it. You get a chance to get an top QB, it’s that much easier to pull the trigger.
/Palmer
//elite
November 15th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
/pours one out for omar jacobs
November 15th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Your loathing of Stafford is something to see.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
That turned out to be a rough QB draft when you consider Jay Cutler ends up being the best by default
I give the edge to Croyle just because his wife is stacked and that whole list is a pile of cow droppings.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
I’m sure you could write 95% of that piece right now yourself since they’re all the same post
Oh right, he had one season in SF last year…remember watching a game of theirs and found it terribly sad for Alex Smith that the fans were calling for Carr
November 15th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Don’t you dare ruin my narrative. You know how inflexible I am with them.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Don’t you dare ruin my narrative. You know how inflexible I am with them.
Sounds like you’re channeling someone familiar with that statement….
November 15th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Pretty sad when you could say that after Cutler and Young, Brad Smith is the third-most accomplished QB from that draft.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Really thought Josh Freeman was going to be the gem of that class, but it might just all be shit. Though he hasn’t had the caliber of recievers Stafford or Sanchez has had
November 15th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
The Jamarcus draft might be the worst QB class ever
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Booooooo your sense of humor.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Bruce Gradkowski was a more successful QB.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Tigers may be trading Delmon Young to the Braves for Martin Prado.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Never said I didn’t find it funny the first time it was written
November 15th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Gozer the Gozerian… good evening. As a duly designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Wasn’t really meant to be taken literally, but in impact, Brad Smith has been an important part of multiple wins. Most of those guys can’t say that.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
That would certainly be payback for the Tigers from when the Braves fleeced them for Jair Jurrjens.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Braves are funny. Yet another OBP hole in their lineup. I’m sure Freddy will hit him 2nd.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
You’re never going to regret this, Ray.
My parents left me that house! I was born there!
You’re not gonna lose the house. Everyone has 3 mortgages nowadays.
But at 19% you didn’t even bargain with the guy!
November 15th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Dr Ray Stantz: Symmetrical book stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.
Dr. Peter Venkman: You’re right, no human being would stack books like this.
November 15th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
/crosses streams with all the other Ghostbusters fans
//no homo
November 15th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
I hope to God we don’t call Favre.
He’ll get you to the AFC title game, then throw an interception on a completely unncessary pass when the Texans are within field range to win the game.
/ New Orleans still owes Favre an enternal debt of gratitude