What’s Wrong With Philip Rivers? Well, He’s the Father of Six Little Kids, Antonio Gates Has Been Hurt …
Philip Rivers has thrown 9 interceptions so far this season, and only 7 touchdown passes. Even though the Chargers are 4-2, which is a better start than some of their recent slow ones, Rivers has not been as sharp as he has been over the past three seasons. From 2006-2010, Rivers threw 2 interceptions in 15 of his 80 starts (he has never thrown 3 in a game). So far this year, it is 4 of the 6.
Clark Judge says “something is very, very wrong with San Diego’s Philip Rivers and the Chargers’ passing game.” Doug Farrar of Yahoo Sports discussed it with Greg Cosell of NFL Films.
“I don’t think Rivers has been as sharp throwing the football,” Greg said. “I think he’s missed some throws that he usually makes. The thing that’s always impressed me about Rivers is the way he stands in the pocket — there can be four, five, six people around him, and he’s oblivious to them. He just has a remarkable ability to throw the ball with bodies around him without seeming to be aware that they’re there. But I would say that overall, he’s not been as sharp or as consistently accurate as we’ve seen in the past.”
That’s fine, but Cosell, one of the best guys at breaking down film, is stating what has happened. He’s not providing a diagnosis or a prognosis. Philip Rivers has not been sharp. His deep throws are a little off from where he has been in the past, so his touchdown percentage is down and his interceptions are up. His yards per attempt is still a pretty healthy 7.9, and his completion percentage for the year is still at 64.7%.
The problem is that he has really struggled in some key situations, despite the four wins. He turned the ball over late against Denver, giving Tebow that chance for late heroics. The Chargers had a late lead against the Jets, and he threw two costly interceptions and then looked out of sorts on the final drive that ended with some short passes and a throw that sailed out of bounds on 4th and 3. His pass attempts are up in 2011 (career high 36.8 passes a game), despite the fact that the Chargers have been playing with a lead more often than not.
So what is wrong with Philip Rivers? Let’s go through some possibilities.
1) an injury of some sort is limiting him. Probably not. It’s mainly the interception numbers that have elevated, and though his yards per attempt is down from the lofty numbers from the past three years, when he led the league all three seasons, it’s not down significantly.
2) Darren Sproles’ absence and Antonio Gates’ injury. Much was made of Darren Sproles on Sunday night, helping Drew Brees and hurting Philip Rivers by leaving. Sproles is a fun player to watch and a dynamic playmaker. Losing Sproles, I’m sure, will have some effect on the Chargers’ offense. It certainly has improved the Saints, going from Bush to Sproles. Then again, the Saints are using Sproles far more than San Diego ever did, as he is averaging 12 touches per game in New Orleans so far, and looking like another diminutive Charger player from the past, Lionel “Little Train” James. Over the last three seasons in San Diego, he averaged 7.0 touches a game.
As for Gates, yes, a healthy Gates will make the San Diego offense better. I don’t see evidence that Gates’ absence is to cause for the uptick in interceptions. Last year, Rivers threw 14 touchdowns to 5 interceptions in the 6 games without Gates, and the Chargers went 5-1. This year, Rivers has now thrown 2 interceptions in both games Gates played.
3) He and his wife had their 6th child. The Charger fans are discussing it. I’m talking from experience here, well, not with 6. Can someone put on another pot of coffee?
4) It’s just random and he’ll bounce back. This is my guess. Sure, we all have good days and bad days. Sometimes they come in different distributions. Especially when it comes to interceptions. Interceptions are relatively rare, but big and notable events, for a quarterback. He’s been a little off and they’ve come more frequently. Some of the ones I’ve seen are the result of some scheming by the defense to catch Rivers by doing something unexpected. Jared Allen made a great athletic play on one in the Minnesota game, peeling off to cover Mathews as he came out of the backfield. The Vince Wilfork one? Rivers probably wasn’t expecting Vince to drop out right into that spot. The NFL.com Playbook blog has a break down of the key Kyle Wilson interception in the 4th quarter. This is one of those little things that again shows why Rex Ryan is such a great defensive coordinator, mimicking one type of coverage behavior but going to another to counter how the quarterback will react. The Jets showed man by Wilson following a receiver across the field pre-snap, but were really in zone, with Rex probably anticipating motion on that play so Rivers could diagnose it as man.
Sometimes the breaks beat the boys, and sometimes the QB gets fooled. It’s adjustments to the adjustments and my guess is Rivers will be fine. I found other quarterbacks who threw 2+ interceptions in the first six games, and while there is a lot of chaff there, if we focus on the guys who were good quarterbacks, they bounced back typically. He’s not the first and won’t be the last to have a stretch of 6 games with several 2 interception games mixed in. Those guys who had been above average quarterbacks and were still in their prime years–Troy Aikman, Steve Bartkowski, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Steve Grogan, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Carson Palmer, Kenny Stabler, and Danny White–averaged 2.5 interceptions over the first 6 games and 1.1 over the final 10, which is league average.
While Philip Rivers has been struggling relative to his standards, at this point, I don’t see any reason to think this is more than a six game stretch at age 30 where he’s just had some off games. Maybe a little sleep wouldn’t hurt either.
[photo via Getty]


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October 26th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
He’s so bad, he’s 15th in the QB efficiency ratings at FO. 16th: The Mierda. Rivers blows.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Now I know why Travis Henry burned out so quickly.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Brees “struggled” last year. Brady has “struggled” at times. So has Manning and Young and Montana and Marino. It happens.
Great QBs do work their way out of their funks.
/that said, 6 KIDS?!
October 26th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Charlie Whitehurst isn’t there to push him to be the best.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Do not click this link. Doing so will knock at least 10 points off your IQ.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
I thought there was some sort of agreed upon moratorium on citing Clark Judge. He’s an asshat who wishes he was Peter King.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
5) Norv Turner
October 26th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
did I miss anything in the last thread? I can’t handle all that rabble anymore so I don’t even go in there.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Baseball players go through slumps all the time. Maybe he is just in a slump right now and it is starting to mentally get to him. His team is 4-2, he isn’t doing THAT badly and Gates is back.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
did I miss anything in the last thread? I can’t handle all that rabble anymore so I don’t even go in there.
Nope, just a whole lotta rabble and TBL throwing out his populist-tinged statements over the plight of student-athletes.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
yeah because a pro football player who spends the majority of his time AWAY from his house and family and makes enough money for his wife to hire help is going to be affected by the hussle and bustle of having six kids.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
six kids? holy shit.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
I have only one, but I have heard it said that having more kids gets exponentially (not linearly) more difficult, in terms of parenting and time management.
I don’t know if it’s Rivers’ problem, but….. 6 kids. Yikes.
Ultimately, though, I think you’re right, Lisk. I think he’ll bounce back.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
sounds about right, that’s why I try to stay out.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I went to a chicken & brisket dinner over the weekend and the Duggar’s were there signing books. and people were buying them. amazing.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
I drafted him as my starting QB.
/3 of my top 7 picks are out for the year with a torn ACL
//you all care
October 26th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
I agree that he’s looked out of sorts, Lisk. But I think Tolbert and Mathews not being consistently healthy has put more pressure on him to be the main producer in the offense. So, balance I guess? You even said his pass attempts are up this year.
I thought your attention would be on Tigers basketball at this point of the Chiefs’ season.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Baseball players go through slumps all the time. Maybe he is just in a slump right now and it is starting to mentally get to him.
This is what makes evaluating talent and production in the NFL difficult…players only play 16 regular season games a year. Add in a couple of preseason games and maybe one or two playoff games on average, that’s only around 20 or so opportunities you get to evaluate what a player is doing right or wrong in a game situation. Baseball players play that many games in 2.5 weeks.
October 26th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
It’s probably time that Phil got the ole snip-snip though too considering his thoughts on contraceptive.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
That’s a lot of fuck’n
October 26th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
I went to a chicken & brisket dinner over the weekend and the Duggar’s were there signing books. and people were buying them. amazing.
How many kids do they have now? 20? 21? I bet for Jim Bob (or whatever his name is) sticking his dick into his wife has got to provide the same sensation as sticking it into a bowl of warm pudding at this point.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
What an idiot. 6 kids? Regardless of your profession, it’s impossible to be a good parent to 6 kids. Not enough hours in the day.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
He should pull out once in a while.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
N’skeet’n
October 26th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Actually I’d say the opposite. Say you have sex one time in a month and she gets pregnant. How many times are you going to fuck her while she looks a whale and has your baby growing in her gigantic stretched out uterus? Not to mention the 3+ months of no sex after the baby is born so her stretched out uterus and episiotomy stitches can heal.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
It’s probably time that Phil got the ole snip-snip though too considering his thoughts on contraceptive.
If he’s against contraceptives, why would he be for getting snipped?
October 26th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
The world that SG lives in is a cold dark place.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
The world that SG lives in is a cold dark place.
Can we take this response to mean that you and Mrs. St. Bear got it on while she was pregnant?
October 26th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Yes, that place is called reality.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
You think I was going to sit on the bench for an entire year?
October 26th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
You think I was going to sit on the bench for an entire year?
Touché good sir.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Six kids? I’d rather live with six ewoks.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I didnt notice any dropoff between my wife and myself. If anything, she wanted it significantly more.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
What’s Wrong With Philip Rivers?
/ Norv Turner
This.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Every sperm is sacred.
/Python’d
October 26th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I went to a chicken & brisket dinner over the weekend
Fuck the Duggars. I want to hear about this delicious repast.
/ Looking forward to a monstrous LSU-Bammer tailgate
October 26th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Do you have anywhere close to six kids? How often did you have sex after she had the baby?
October 26th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
What SG said. If the kids had more than one mama, on the other hand… that could cause problems.
October 26th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Sorry, wrong. You’re supposed to take those random numbers and build a narrative.
/Sportswriters’ credo
October 26th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Just one, afterwards it slowed for a bit because she was recovering from surgery.
I understand your point though.
October 26th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Wrap it up, dawg.
That being said, watching my beloved Chargers has been like rearing six kids lately, amirite?
/veal, especially for the early-bird special
//Snow day, FTW!
October 26th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
What’s Wrong with Philip Rivers?
1. SD is passing more often, exposing him to more opportunities for INTs
2. The rhythm method
October 26th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
6 kids would make me want to kill myself.