A Day After Stephen Garcia is Kicked Off the Gamecocks, Here Come the Point Shaving Rumors
Stephen Garcia was kicked off South Carolina’s football team Tuesday. The State reported that Garcia failed a substance abuse test on October 4th, which is one day after Garcia lost the starting QB job to Connor Shaw. Garcia’s reaction to the failed test?
Garcia told The AP in a text message Tuesday that he was “shocked and completely flabbergasted to be honest” by the dismissal. He said he would have a full statement later in the week.
Interesting. So if his dismissal wasn’t substance-abused related, what was it about? Rumors have been swirling all morning that it allegedly involved point-shaving against Navy. There’s little or no evidence that has surfaced yet, but Steve Fezzik, a moderately famous gambler (he’s won the Hilton Contest twice), tweeted about it, and specifically noted that the South Carolina-Navy line plummeted by 2.5 points on the Saturday morning of the game (from 17 to 14.5).
Against Navy, South Carolina struggled at home – Garcia was 18-for-25 with a pick – but ultimately won, 24-21, due to a late stop by the defense. It seems like a massive reach to connect Garcia to anything (though people really are trying). Perhaps the line went down because Alshon Jeffery, one of the country’s best receivers, was punished for breaking a team rule and didn’t get the start?
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October 12th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
I’m guessing he was involved in some bootlegging.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Sitting next to a couple arguing at lunch… she’s gorgeous and she just gave him the “you call me delusional one more time!” line.
/developing…
October 12th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
but Steve Fezzik, a moderately famous gambler (he’s won the Hilton Contest twice), tweeted about it, and specifically noted that the South Carolina-Navy line plummeted by 2.5 points on
This does not add up with…
but ultimately won, 24-21, due to a late stop by the defense
October 12th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Assuming QB is #1 on “best people to shave points” I think the rest of the order would go:
1. Starting RB
2. Starting Center
3. Starting Long Snapper
22. Starting DT
October 12th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Grizz – line went down from 17-14.5 if you clicked on his tweet link
October 12th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Huh? It was obviously substance-abuse related.
Point shaving….LMAO. Embarrassing that you wasted a post on this. Somebody with wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on their hands started this rumor, and it’s comical. Did they even watch the Navy game? Garcia played ok. 18-25. I’d like to know what plays led to point shaving. Navy covered this game because they couldn’t be stopped by the SC D in the 1st 3 qtrs.
Not sure I’ll be back around these parts anymore after this.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
you’re assuming that Garcia is good enough to shave points.
i also enjoy that SoCar fans think that he’s the only thing between them and a NC this year, like somehow they transformed overnight to a legit college football program.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
well his quote says otherwise. looking forward to his statement.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Grizz – line went down from 17-14.5 if you clicked on his tweet link
My bad, I misread that to the line itself being 2.5 points — should have realized SC would have been bigger favorites.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
His quote says he was flabbergasted by the dismissal, not the report he failed a drug test. Even if he meant he was flabbergasted by the drug test it seems a lot more likely he’s just lying about that than this point shaving story.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I know for a 100% fact that he was boozing in Columbia last Thursday nite…
October 12th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Interesting. So if his dismissal wasn’t substance-abused related, what was it about?
Huh? It was obviously substance-abuse related.
it’s always been substance-abuse related, which everyone will turn a blind eye to as long as you’re performing well. start playing like shit? kiss those SEC perks goodbye, son.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Not sure I’ll be back around these parts anymore after this.
Looks like this place is about to lose some of its considerable influence.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Is this your first time here?
October 12th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
I know for a 100% fact that he was boozing in Columbia last Thursday nite…
Did you do some carbombs with Stevie boy?
October 12th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Very, very few SC fans actually believe that.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
No…but he bought some friends of mine shots…
October 12th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
So when a line “crashes down” hours before kickoff, that’s now enough to bring up point shaving? Posts like these are embarrassing coming from a purported website, one that does not want to be called just a blog.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
one that does not want to be called just a blog.
I’ve seen references similar to this a couple of other times today. What’s this all about? I missed yesterday for a company retreat.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
Very, very few SC fans actually believe that.
90% of the ones i know personally think that, are alumni, and read all the local shit weekly. maybe i only know the dumbasses.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
agreed. this is something that belongs on a low-rent gambling message board…not this site.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Posts like these are embarrassing coming from a purported website, one that does not want to be called just a blog.
More or less embarrassing than posting pictures of an NBA rookie’s dong? I’d say it’s about par for the course.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
every time i lose a bet on the favorite, i blame it on point shaving.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I think if there are no criminal charges leveled against him, you’re looking at Ole Miss’s starting QB in 2012.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
More or less embarrassing than posting pictures of an NBA rookie’s dong? I’d say it’s about par for the course.
I love how dong references are the ultimate trump card for assertions of journalistic integrity here.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Assuming QB is #1 on “best people to shave points” I think the rest of the order would go:
1. Starting RB
2. Starting Center
3. Starting Long Snapper
22. Starting DT
23. LSU punter who had TD removed from score
October 12th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
I love how dong references are the ultimate trump card for assertions of journalistic integrity here.
Well, it was a pretty big trump card, was it not?
October 12th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
was one of his reinstatement guidelines not to drink at all? b/c otherwise it would seem ridiculous that they’d randomly test him for booze.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
If UGA hadn’t shit the fucking bed the SEC East would be over and SC would be primed for another 5 loss year.
FUCK!!
October 12th, 2011 at 2:31 PM
I know for a 100% fact that he was boozing in Columbia last Thursday nite…
Five Points FTW!
October 12th, 2011 at 2:31 PM
It was part of the reinstatement.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:32 PM
I thought the same thing. So what if he gets drunk on a Sunday and fails a test on monday? He’s gotta be close to 30 at this point anyway. Let the middle-aged dude drink.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:33 PM
I also don’t buy that SC will crumble now like so many people think. Shaw and Garcia are essentially the same average to above average (and back to below-average) QB. They’ll lose 1-2 more games this year just as they would with Garcia at QB.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
I don’t know a whole lot about CFB but each time I’ve seen Garcia over the years, he’s been all kinds of bad. Like, spike both the visor and the headset kind of bad. Seems like anything would be an upgrade over that guy.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
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October 12th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
This went well.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
I will say this, TBL didn’t say that this is the reason Garcia was kicked off the team. He’s just reporting a rumor.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:13 PM
Fezzik is wrong, par for the course with him. He’s as reliable and accurate as a 15 year old meth head.
The line didn’t go from 17 to 14.5 on Saturday. At Bookmaker, the most important offshore book, it went from 16.5 on Thursday, to 16 on Friday, to 15 on Saturday. The other offshores were similar. Those are small line moves that don’t mean much.
Garcia may be a drunk, but spreading these point shaving allegations is awful, especially when a well-known gambler like Fezzik just flat out lied about circumstantial evidence.