The Yankees Losing Won’t Be Bad for Postseason Baseball Ratings, But a Non-Competitive World Series Would
Last night, our fearless editor in chief tweeted out after the Yankees were eliminated that “I’m sure many will disagree, but the Yankees getting eliminated is bad for baseball.” I know that Jason is referring to the disparity in television ratings in the recent World Series versus others, which was sizeable, and how baseball was probably secretly hoping for the Yankees in the Series as a result.
We can have a discussion of whether ratings is even the best way to establish what is good for baseball. For the sake of this post, and for taking a position on opposition territory, I’ll use World Series ratings to dispute the Yankees’ impact is truly as large as the ratings difference between 2009 and other years around it, and that a scenario where the Yankees lose in the playoffs more often than they advance to the World Series is probably good for baseball ratings overall.
The “Yankees are super important to baseball” proponents will point to the 2009 World Series ratings numbers. Here are the average game ratings for the World Series since 2000:
2000 12.4* 2001 15.7* 2002 11.9 2003 12.8* 2004 15.8 2005 11.1 2006 10.1 2007 10.6 2008 8.4 2009 17.2* 2010 8.4
*World Series involving the Yankees
That 17.2 rating in 2009, in the World Series between the Yankees and Phillies, was a large number compared to the others around it. So it appears I am off my rocker when I suggest that the Yankees losing in the playoffs is not bad for baseball, based on ratings.
The case for New York’s impact being sizeable, though, is based only on that series. In 1981, a World Series between teams from the two largest markets, the Yankees and Dodgers, drew a 30.0 rating. The year before, a series involving the Royals drew a 32.8, while a year later, a series between two more Midwest teams, Milwaukee and St. Louis, drew a 27.9.
I know, I know, you’re saying that was 30 years ago. And a lot has changed. Sure, it has. Part of the problem is that unlike the NFL, where it doesn’t matter if the stars are from Green Bay or Pittsburgh, the league has done a poor job of marketing stars outside of New York over the last decade, so that the casual fan doesn’t identify with other teams and knows little about them once the Yankees are eliminated. Thirty years ago, the World Series was an event that everyone watched, and it certainly didn’t matter that the Yankees were in it. My perception, and this is just my perception, is that baseball broadcasts have done a better job of not just focusing on Red Sox/Yankees this year, though they still get plenty of coverage.
So, let’s go to 1996, when the Yankees broke through with the first World Series title under Joe Torre. The rating that year was a 17.4. The year before, Cleveland and Atlanta had a 19.5, and the year after, Cleveland and Florida drew 16.7. The three years after that, when the Yankees won the World Series, all had lower ratings than Cleveland/Florida. The ratings in the 2001 and 2003 Series were 15.7 and 12.8; without New York, in 2002 and 2004, they were 11.9 and 15.8.
You would be hard pressed to compare New York to the World Series around them at any point over the last 30-40 years, and see that them being eliminated before the World Series was “bad for baseball” on a national scale, with the exception of 2009.
So let’s talk about 2009, and why 2011 isn’t 2009. The Yankees drew their highest rating in 2009 since the 1996 World Series. What do those have in common? Both were the first World Series title in a while, and the Yankees had gone multiple years without a World Series appearance. By 2009, the Yankees had not won a World Series since 2000, and had not made an appearance since 2003, despite annually being in the postseason tournament. They had several notable failures. People around the rest of the country like to root against New York, but they don’t like to do so when it doesn’t matter and the Yankees dominate. By 2009, the Yankees were not the dominant World Series force of a decade earlier. Oh, and they were playing the defending champion Phillies, so let’s not forget the other team in the equation further increased the interest and storylines. Then, the Phillies won game 1, and the series went 6 games, the only time that has happened since 2003. (More on how series length impacts overall ratings in a bit).
No one arguing that the Yankees are such a ratings bonanza will point to 2000. After winning two straight World Series by sweeps, and winning 3 of 4, the Yankees and Mets played in the Subway Series. How can that not be the best thing for baseball ever? Well, it was the second lowest rated Series between 1995 and 2004. Fatigue had set in, and the Yankees winning was arguably, gasp, bad for baseball. Game 1 of the 2001 Series, with the Yankees now three-time champions, drew a 10.4. Even though ratings have declined in general over the last decade, that is just behind game 1′s in the Colorado-Boston series, and just ahead of ratings busts like the Rays-Phillies and Astros-White Sox and Rangers-Giants in the opener. The difference? The Diamondbacks stunned the invincible Yankees, and ratings improved throughout the Series until Game 7 produced a 23.5, the highest rated game of the decade. The others, they were stinkers that were decided in 5 or less.
Which brings me to the length of series, and how the fact that all the other World Series recently have been lopsided skews the ratings perception to where people think 2009 means more than it did. Game 1 is almost always the lowest rated game of a World Series, and the last two times the Game 1 rating was higher than the Series average was in 2008 (when ratings plummeted after Game 1) and in 1984 (when the Tigers were heavy favorites and dominated the Padres).
Here are the average ratings increases of the deciding game, versus the average for the rest of the series, depending on how long the series went, for all World Series since 1980:
- Four Games: Game 4 averaged +1.7 higher rating than rest of series
- Five Games: Game 5 averaged +0.5 higher rating than rest of series
- Six Games: Game 6 averaged +3.6 higher rating than rest of series
- Seven Games: Game 7 averaged +9.7 higher rating than rest of series
We love Game 7′s, and this is just as true recently as it was 30 years ago. Winner take all games attract viewers. Instead, in recent years, other than the Yankees-Phillies, we’ve gotten series that had no drama. Three sweeps and three 4-1 Series since 2003. How does that rank historically? The longest stretch without a game 6 in a World Series, prior to 2004-2008, was four years, from 1913-1916. The longest stretch without a 7th game, which we haven’t had since 2002? 1913-1918, though that ended with the Black Sox in a Best of 9 series that went 8 (From 1913-1923, there were no winner take all games, then immediately followed by three straight).
It would be a gambler’s fallacy to assume it must happen this year, because it hasn’t happened for a while. But the best thing for baseball from a ratings perspective in the World Series is not those damn Yanks, particularly since they just won a World Series and don’t have that buzz of having not won for 8 straight years. It’s getting a competitive World Series with a decisive game 7. If that happened, whether it was the Brewers versus Tigers or Rangers versus Phillies, I think the Game 7 rating would be above 20.0, probably much higher since we haven’t had one in a while, and the overall series rating, based on looking at recent ratings in non-Yankees series and historical data on how ratings increase as series progress if it is competitive, would be in the 14-15 range, even if it started out with similar ratings to recent non-Yankees series.
What’s good for baseball, even when looking at the ratings, is more competitive World Series, with or without the Yankees. A Game 7 is a bigger draw than pinstripes. Further, there is some equilibrium where the Yankees actually need to miss the World Series more often than not to then maximize ratings when they make it. This loss isn’t bad for baseball. When the Yankees get back in 2015 after getting rid of some of these contracts, the ratings will be huge, and it will be in part because they lost this year.
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October 7th, 2011 at 2:34 PM
I see TBL got Lisk to do the dick measuring post.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Well I guess baseball is in trouble!!!!!!
October 7th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
I think what TBL is essentially saying is that most Yankees fans aren’t BASEBALL fans.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Nice post Lisk.
/actually read the article
October 7th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Husker – no. Lisk came to me and asked about it. I told him sure.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Number of comments before someone who actually read what I said comments?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
This loss isn’t bad for baseball.
I take it you guys missed this part. Again, nice job Lisk.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Number of comments before someone who actually read what I said comments?
6.
Nice job Lisk.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
I think what PKI was saying was that Shatner, Husker & s1r didn’t read the post.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
dammit pkiguy.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I liked the post, last year’s World Series really did suffer from a lack of good competitive games…even if you look at ’05 and ’07 which featured big markets sweeping, the one that had 4 close games had a slight advantage over one with two blowouts, people will watch a good game
October 7th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
i mean, i expect that kind of behavior from a know-nothing like Hef, or an instigator like Clown, or even nubbnuts like RWH (does he comment here anymore?).
but Husker? Shatner? step up your game, fellas.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I read the post, but I can’t help myself with the “Baseball is in trouble” comments.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I didn’t read it at all. I was going with 100% snark with my comment.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Nothing tops the “fan interest is through the roof” NBA meme. At least for my money, anyway.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Thats asking a lot. All I know is baseball is over (/northeast’d), so can we get back to just talking football and nba lockout?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
So, a competitive series is more important than having the yanks in it. Got it. Now tell that to TBL.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
“Baseball traditionalist” was a good one back in the day.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
TBL, did the post make you change your mind? I would hope it did because your take doesn’t jive with the salary cap you want
October 7th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
If the Phillies lose tonight it will be interesting to see how baseball is covered nationally.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
I was addressing your tweet in the first paragraph. Should’ve quoted.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
can we have the LCS first?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
Do not want.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
He wrote one of the previews for hockey’s Eastern Conference
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
If the Cubs ever made the World Series, what would the ratings be? A 20, 25?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
So, last night was the most watched LDS game in cable history? When will Bud admit that baseball is in trouble?!?!
October 7th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
You are full of shit, Lisk.
/Obligatory
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Hopefully not at all.
/northeast’d
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Ouch.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
the Yankees and Mets played in the Subway Series. How can that not be the best thing for baseball ever? Well, it was the second lowest rated Series between 1995 and 2004.
I think the other reason this series was so bad was because nobody outside NYC really cared. People hate the Yankees and their fans, but when you play essentially a team with the same type fanbase, there isn’t someone to root for.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
What do you mean?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
/high fives CJ
October 7th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Ok, is anyone else calling a possible Shananigans on the story of that kid getting shot in Detroit 4 years ago? I feel like an asshole sayin git because it is an incredible story. But, there are a few things that are making me question its credibility. That is all. Sorry for not reading the post Lisk.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Makes sense. But I still think how many people watch baseball on their computers and phones makes ratings an invalid measurement of anything nowadays.
Of course game 6s and 7s are good for the sport though. This postseason will likely get one of its highest ratings ever. The last time the first round played out like it did this year? 2003. There were a total of 39 out of a possible 41 postseason games played that year. Only one LDS and the World Series didn’t go the maximum number of games.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
i wouldn’t call Hef a know-nothing. he knows more about baseball than most people.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Man TBL is fiesty today.
I hope this was said in the heat of the moment and you don’t really believe this. Because, as Lisk pointed out, its incorrect and comes across as either trolling or east coast elitest or both.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
The Yankees have more haters than LeBron. Frankly, I enjoy it greatly.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Not the same fanbase, but I get what you’re saying. Mets fans are liked abused dogs.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Yeah. Roman is pretty smart actually. For an Islanders fan.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
If Philly loses that means the locals from the N’East won’t have a team in the race. It would shift the focus to Mich/Tex and Mil/ARI-STL. I would be interested to see how much time the major papers/sites devoted to talking about those series.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Is this a typo or some derivative of numbnuts I have never hear?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Sports needs villains, last night was great fun because of it…I mean I broke into uncontrollable laughter when Swisher struck out with the bases loaded, that’s not healthy
October 7th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Sure, thanks to the $1 clue he purchased.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Verlander/Halladay game seven, please. Thanks.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
If the Cubs ever made the World Series, what would the ratings be? A 20, 25?
Huge. The Red Sox in 2004 drew huge ratings despite it being a sweep, with game 4 getting an 18. 3 Years later, with the curse gone, they didn’t get near the national viewers in beating the Rockies. Cubs would be a much bigger draw in a World Series nationally because of the lengthy history of failure.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
CJ Wilson-Ian Kennedy would be a true baseball blessing.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Verlander/Halladay game seven, please. Thanks.
What if it’s a Kennedy/Wilson
October 7th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
You’re getting my hopes up with this Cubs talk. I’ll be 30 before they’re any good again.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Narrative drives TV. Combine a hyped, national narrative with the drama of a one-night event like game 7 and it would be huge.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
No doubt. I’d even watch a Cubs WS game. That number would be enormous.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
2. Phillies – $173 million
10. Tigers – $106 million
11. Cardinals – $105 million
13. Rangers – $92 million
17. Brewers – $85 million
25. Diamondbacks – $53 million
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
0.0
/Apocalypse’d
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
I would like it put on the record that my nuts are not nubs. They are actually quite large and sometimes stick to my inner thigh when I am sweaty.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
boy do we need a salary cap.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Arod, Tex and Swisher should be sent to one of those cartoon deserted islands for their performance in this series. Actually Arod for his performance since July.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Funniest thing you’ve said in a while.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
I also enjoy that you insist on wearing a cape to Giants games.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
Gotta love Yankee fans for comic relief – since Tex hasn’t hit well in the post season, trade him, pay part of his salary, and sign Pujols.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
having old saggy balls doesn’t qualify them as being big.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
I would like it put on the record that my nuts are not nubs. They are actually quite large and sometimes stick to my inner thigh when I am sweaty.
I hear Patino has the same problem.
/legs crossed joke
October 7th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
I’m watching anyway, but yeah, that’s a bit like “Superbowl XLVI – Sanchez/Grossman”
October 7th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
I’d like to go on record as stating that I am just as much an instigator as Clown. In the future, I’d like him to be referred to as the know nothing and me as the instigator.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
No one said this.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
I would like it put on the record that my nuts are not nubs. They are actually quite large and sometimes stick to my inner thigh when I am sweaty.
Is this the beginning of a Louis CK joke?
October 7th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
i don’t know. sounds quite believable.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Lisk, I don’t know what TBL is paying you, but you deserve a raise, sir.
Rooting against New York teams is fun. I’m as guilty as anyone. And it’s not even rational. I readily admit to enjoying my roadtrips to New York.
/secretly wished the Yankees won so the Phils could potentially get another shot at them
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
No one said this.
Caller into Mike Francesa’s radio show.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Verlander/Halladay game seven, please. Thanks.
I second this.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
The Phillies offense is putrid, I have this terrible fear that they lose 1-0 tonight and take Halladay from us.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
It’s comfortable damnit!
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Clearly you haven’t been listening to WFAN this afternoon. It’s been pretty funny, man.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Ha! well there you go haha.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
/bites GSG on the hand
//licks own nubs
///falls asleep in sunny spot on the floor
October 7th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I avoid NY Sports radio like the plague after huge losses. Shit I barely like listening to them during the good times.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Either that, or Hanzo swords at dusk on the beach.
/Kill Bill’d
October 7th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I do love me an Islanders game every now and again. Cheaper than the Rangers and the upper level seats are just as entertaining as what is going on down on the ice.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I did read the article. But I don’t know if I’m totally buying it. The fact remains that those four Yankee series are among the top five rated series of the century. Only the Red Sox story could compete.
You can’t deny the fact that New York is the largest market and the Yankees have the largest national fan base, with the Red Sox second. There’s a reason ESPN focuses on those two teams and it’s not just east coast bias. They draw viewers (or eyeballs on the websites).
October 7th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
The guy wrote a post for your site yesterday. Do you even read what goes up, or do you just cash the checks?
/pageview$
October 7th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
It’s the right move. Though I did once read something awesome about Philly talk radio, something like: “I always listen to WIP for hours after Eagles losses. The callers are so tortured, poor things are crying out into the night for solace. It’s poetry.”
October 7th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
I did read the article. But I don’t know if I’m totally buying it. The fact remains that those four Yankee series are among the top five rated series of the century. Only the Red Sox story could compete.
You can’t deny the fact that New York is the largest market and the Yankees have the largest national fan base, with the Red Sox second. There’s a reason ESPN focuses on those two teams and it’s not just east coast bias. They draw viewers (or eyeballs on the websites).
You could have sucked up to TBL with less words dude.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Love your stuff even when I don’t totally agree.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Actually, it might be the only rink left with any real history.
/Fuck you for 1980, Leon Stickle
October 7th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
I avoid NY Sports radio like the plague after huge losses. Shit I barely like listening to them during the good times.
Mad Dog radio is going to be a must listen on the way home tonight
October 7th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
If you’re on Twitter, follow @WFANTrades. Priceless.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
I’d like to go on record as stating that I am just as much an instigator as Clown. In the future, I’d like him to be referred to as the know nothing and me as the instigator.
Clown could have said this same thing, but managed to keep it in one line. Dude is awesome with the one liners
October 7th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
I actually like listening to the meltdowns in New York after a game like last night’s. While I love the Yankees, I’m well aware of how spoiled their fans are. They have been in the postseason 16 of the last 17 years. And won the World Series two years ago. Hard to complain.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
He’s like the Latino Shecky Green.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Twitter was made for stuff like this. Love the avatar too
October 7th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Honestly, everyone of those people need therapy.
/kidding-ish
October 7th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Put Jesus Montero at 3rd base for A-Rod in the playoffs! This is so much fun!
October 7th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
The comment that best sums up some fans mindset when it comes to proposing asinine trades:
“Hey Mike, if we’re willing to give up Gardner you think we could get Halladay or Lee?!?!”
October 7th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Well done, Lisk. You hit the points there with detail to back it up.
Hope this one goes viral, because it would be great to hear good info like this on airwaves and other places in writing…
October 7th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Best proposed trade ever was Bubba Crosby, Tony Womack, and Terrance Long for David DeJesus, back when DeJesus was a up and coming 5-tool prospect.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
MP called Gardner nothing more than a slap-hitter.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Heya Mikey. I was thinkin’ here, what if we re-sign Posader then trade him with Swishah for Ryan Braunstein and Zack Grienke. Braun would love livin’ on the lowah East side.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Guido from Canarsie: Hey Mike, first time long time. I think it’s about time Cashman do something to fix this embarrassment. It’s time to get some pitching in here. How’s you think they trade Gardner, Hughes and some prospect or somethin to Seattle for King Felix?
Mike – Why would Seattle even do that?
Guido – Cause somethin has to happen Mike!
/not even listening. Just assuming this is what is sounds like.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
The Yankees have more haters than LeBron. Frankly, I enjoy it greatly.
Sports needs villains, last night was great fun because of it…I mean I broke into uncontrollable laughter when Swisher struck out with the bases loaded, that’s not healthy
People love to root against the Yankees, the Lakers, the Man Utds, the Real Madrids because they are so dominant and they are so successful. The key is that it cannot be a foregone conclusion.
Losing this year for the Yanks is good for baseball.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
/+ 1 PATH 2-Trip MetroCard
October 7th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
I enjoy when the Yankees lose, but I may be part of a minority that enjoys it when the Red Sox lose even more. Because no matter how much of a sissy weirdo A-Rod is, the Red Sox have an overwhelming number of assholes.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
TSH –
You just hit on the disparity based on salary… Once the playoffs start, it’s any team’s to win – mostly based on 2-3 hot starters and 2-3 hot bullpen guys. But, getting to the playoffs consistently can really only be done if:
a) a team out-talents their competitors year in and year out (which can only be done consistently by keeping their talent by paying for long-term extensions), or
b) can afford to trade for needed pieces mid-season without mortgaging the future.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Typing that sentence made me think of this. Combine that with it being Friday afternoon, giddy up.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
You can’t deny the fact that New York is the largest market and the Yankees have the largest national fan base, with the Red Sox second. There’s a reason ESPN focuses on those two teams and it’s not just east coast bias. They draw viewers (or eyeballs on the websites).
I don’t deny this. A World Series with the Yankees would draw about 2 million more viewers per game than other Series, if they were otherwise equal. But the ratings two years ago doubled the others. Those other factors were a bigger difference. I guess we’ll see if there is a competitive series, as the last two that went at least 6 not involving Yanks were Angels and Giants, and Indians-Marlins.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
talk radio sports fans are great.
i always wonder what their sports conversations are like face to face? Do they know other people so they can have a serious 2 sided conversation? Or are the only people who actually listen to them the times they call into WFAN?
there needs to be a documentary about this.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Hate Ryan Howard and Polanco so much right now
October 7th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
‘Big Fan’, starring Patton Oswalt
October 7th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
+100
Steve from Yonkers, what’s up Steve?
“Hey Mike howzit goin?”
-mmm
“Okay well I got a trade for you.”
-ok
“How about we trade Montinaro and Swisha plus cash for Kershaw and Kemp. The Dodgas are broke! We pay sign swish before the trade and pay most of his salary…”
-no no no no no no no. Ya cant dooo dat! Cawm onn, now! Whataya doin?
/John kills self
October 7th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
Oskie said sign Posada to a 5-year extension.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
You can’t deny the fact that New York is the largest market and the Yankees have the largest national fan base, with the Red Sox second. There’s a reason ESPN focuses on those two teams and it’s not just east coast bias. They draw viewers (or eyeballs on the websites).
NO ONE DENIES THIS!
/Tawwmy
October 7th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Been a long day in the World household. These are making my day that much brighter!
/Really looking forward to CBJ faceoff in 3 hrs and 42 minutes
October 7th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
I enjoy when the Yankees lose, but I may be part of a minority that enjoys it when the Red Sox lose even more.
I agree with this 100%. As an Oriole fan, I can’t stand either but at least the Yankees are honest about themselves: they are trying to buy championships. The Red Sox still act like they are fighting the evil empire when they are same thing (with a somewhat smaller pay roll).
October 7th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
i don’t know about that, but I’ll admit that i haven’t paid attention to anything the ownership group has said in years.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Everybody’s got a price.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
i don’t know about anyone else, but i really wish we had a forum to talk about how AWESOME Vick’s NyQuil is!!!
October 7th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
link? i can provide one.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
i don’t know about anyone else, but i really wish we had a forum to talk about how AWESOME Vick’s NyQuil is!!!
It’ll knock you the [BLEEP] out!
Everybody’s got a price.
For some it’s Vick’s NyQuil.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Steve Mason better step up this year. If I was to blame one thing (besides the money and the travel time) on why I didn’t renew my tickets it would be on his lousy play.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
There’s a difference between the Yankees and everybody else, even Boston. The Yankees are on a whole other level.
I know it might be hard for an Orioles fan to tell from all the way down at the bottom. Kind of like how you can’t tell which two mountains are bigger when standing in a valley.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
I was joking, because I thought you were too. But that wasn’t me.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
There’s a difference between the Yankees and everybody else, even Boston. The Yankees are on a whole other level.
I know it might be hard for an Orioles fan to tell from all the way down at the bottom. Kind of like how you can’t tell which two mountains are bigger when standing in a valley.
The only difference is the Yankees spend a bit more cash and they are better at it. Even us valley-dwelling O’s fans recognize that.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Robotrippin’ is better than NyQuil drunk.
but NyQuil tastes better.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Well, they have a bit more experience with it. Give the Sox until 2016, and we’ll be winning 97 games and flamming out in the first round.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Well, they have a bit more experience with it. Give the Sox until 2016, and we’ll be winning 97 games and flamming out in the first round.
Touché.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Red Sox also didn’t have an owner and staff not even in the fucking same state which tried to take over the day-to-day operations for Theo. Cashman didn’t even get the chance to fully run the team for a stretch that saw the team go ater Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Raul Mondesi and Damon. Now I liked the Damon move and Mondesi somewhat worked out, but the Tampa regime didn’t care about the minor league system at all and it suffered because of it. Cashman takes over, pumps money into the draft and now the Yankees have some guys down the line who can do some damage.
Red Sox minor league system used to be one of the best (not sure if it still is, it may be) and made smart investments, but lets not act like they are working with dimes while the Yankees are working with $20s. Can’t cry poor when you throw money at Ortiz, Lackey and Crawford, then sign and trade for Gonzalez and a huge extension.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
This would be the counter-argument. A super-exciting, super-competitive series that produced mediocre ratings. It was the only series from ’98-’03 that didnt involve the Yankees. What was the Game 7 number?
October 7th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
but lets not act like they are working with dimes while the Yankees are working with $20s. Can’t cry poor when you throw money at Ortiz, Lackey and Crawford, then sign and trade for Gonzalez and a huge extension.
Exactly.