New England’s Defense is Historically (Hysterically?) Bad For a Playoff Contender
I’m a sucker. I still have the New England Patriots listed as a Super Bowl Favorite after four weeks, even though the Patriots’ Defense has been really bad. How bad? Well, Chase Stuart sent out this nugget: “2011 Patriots — first team in NFL history to give up 1900 yards in first four games. 2 of 3 tms w/ >1875 yds allowed folded after season.”
If we look at teams that were able to overcome and make the playoffs, only 7 modern teams made the playoffs after giving up more than 400 yards per game through the first four games of the season, with the 1999 Redskins leading the list at 1,741 yards. That is a substantial improvement over where the Patriots are.
So is it hopeless in New England? The Patriots have the best offense in the league, and are currently first in yards and points. Last year, the Patriots were efficient on offense and avoided turnovers, but they are even more explosive this year. As we know, last year’s team didn’t fare well in the playoffs.
I looked up all the playoff teams that were top 3 in both points and yards on offense, but were in the bottom 8 of the league in yards allowed. Bottom 8 would be quite an improvement at this point, but I wanted to see how these extreme teams did in the playoffs.
Nine teams are on the list, and here they are sorted by how badly their defense ranked in yards allowed compared to the rest of the league:
- 1999 Redskins (10-6, #3 seed): 30th of 31 teams in yards allowed; 2nd in both points and yards on offense
- 1981 Chargers (10-6, #3 seed): 27th of 28 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 1st in yards on offense
- 1991 Bills (12-4, #1 seed): 27th of 28 in yards allowed; 2nd in points and 1st in yards on offense
- 2003 Chiefs (13-3, #2 seed): 29th of 32 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 2nd in yards on offense
- 2004 Colts (12-4, #3 seed): 29th of 32 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 2nd in yards on offense
- 1982 Chargers (6-3, #5 seed): 25th of 28 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 1st in yards on offense
- 2009 Saints (13-3, #1 seed): 25th of 32 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 1st in yards on offense
- 1995 Lions (10-6, #5 seed): 23rd of 30 in yards allowed; 2nd in points and 1st in yards on offense
- 1998 49ers (12-4, #4 seed): 23rd of 30 in yards allowed; 3rd in points and 1st in yards on offense
Some not so surprising names on that list, including the Air Coryell Chargers, and the 2003 Chiefs. How did those offensively skewed teams do? Only one of them won a Super Bowl, but the blueprint was just offered two years ago by the Saints. Of course, that Saints team was way ahead of where the Patriots are after four games, ranking 25th in yards and using an opportunistic defense that created turnovers. If we control for seed, though, they don’t fare too badly, though they don’t tend to overachieve too much when they reach the playoffs.
Both #1 seeds reached the Super Bowl, with one winning it. The #2 and #3 seeds performed to seed, with the Chiefs losing a shootout at home, while the 1981 Chargers won one of the most memorable playoff games on the road in Miami, before losing the AFC Championship Game in Cincinnati. The Colts and Redskins won at home then lost on the road. The #4 and #5 seeds went a combined 2-3, not an unusual result for those seeds.
Can New England win a Super Bowl with this defense? It would be unprecedented, as the 1991 Bills ranked worse in yards allowed, while the Saints were 8th from the bottom. If they are going to do it, they will need to get some turnovers on defense to mask the big plays allowed, so a few more Vince Wilfork interceptions would help. If there’s a team that can do it, it is this Patriots team, with an offense that looks like it has taken it up a notch from last year when all the parts are healthy.
I also think that Bill Belichick, with his aggressive style and willingness to go for it rather than put it on his defense, is the perfect coach to pull it off, as his teams have routinely limited points compared to their yards allowed, by creating turnovers and performing in the red zone. The Belichick Patriots have ranked higher in points allowed than yards allowed in 10 of 11 previous seasons, and are 20th in points despite all those yards this year.
Still, the Achilles’ heel is open and obvious on this team, and if they fail to win the title after entering as Super Bowl favorites, again, the reason will be that historically, and hysterically bad defense.
[photo via Getty]

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October 4th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Napoli drops the ball!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Note to self – choose New England opponent as team with the highest score for tie breaker on pick em league.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Any thoughts on this potential atrocity?
October 4th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
This is the problem with statistical analysis: in a one-game situation, the Pats could get blowed up.
And if that one instance occurs in the playoffs, then there goes their season.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Just pick New England.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Any thoughts on this potential atrocity?
It’s in keeping with the NFL’s mandate of not fielding any artist of the last decade.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Im even more scared of watching this defense without Mayo
I actually thought there was some improvement this week. I mean I dont think that much of Jason Campbell, but that team did just put up 30+ on the Bills, and no one talks about their defense.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
SportsGal and CJ, I appreciate the hate and blow you both a passionate kiss.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
I blame those people who called CBS after Janet Jackson’s titties flopped out.
/I didnt even notice it
October 4th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
At least that defense didn’t come back to bite them in the postseason…oh, right
A Packer-Patriot Super Bowl might outscore the Arena Bowl this
October 4th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Went to the home opener for the Giants that season. I believe the Skins dropped 50 or something retarded. I had gone to Syracuse/Michigan the night before at the Carrier Dome and watched the Orange get screwed on a non-call in the end zone.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Next time jot down your questions and get right to it. That’s all I’m saying.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
I’m surprised there weren’t at least three Denny Green teams on this list.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
It’d outscore any Big Ten basketball game this year.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Ah, the 99 Skins. A very strange team.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Ohio State is going to avg 80+ pts this year.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
I still have no idea what the call was about.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
It wasn’t a question, mam.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
+36-33, so…3 I guess
I can’t remember the last time Belichick drafted a top level defensive player unless we’re considering Mayo one…weird the downturn they’ve taken
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Whered you get this? NFL.com has them at 11th in points.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
It’s in keeping with the NFL’s mandate of not fielding any artist of the last decade
It still amazes me that Springsteen offered to play the ’76 Super Bowl — for free – and got turned down.
I’m thinking we’ll eventually have a Super Bowl halftime salute to grunge, featuring Pearl Jam, right around 2021.
the Air Coryell Chargers
Fondly remembered. “Fed Ex offense, Post Office defense.”
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Jay V: Thoughts on Garcia/Shaw?
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Wilfork.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
The Mets not being allowed to wear hats. And during that fiasco, Joe Torre dismissed the Navy Seals like they were cub scouts. Not cool.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Nope. something about parachute troopers and Joe Torre?
October 4th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
questions/comments, whatever. Call me “mam” all you want, at least I didn’t sound like an idiot on the radio.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
20th in the league
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
I still have no idea what the call was about.
The Mets not being allowed to wear hats.MikeyOctober 4th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
I can’t remember the last time Belichick drafted a top level defensive player unless we’re considering Mayo one…weird the downturn they’ve taken
Meriweather…but he might not count since he’s average at best.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
McCourty should be a stud, outside of the struggles he’s had this year against Marshall and Vincent Jackson, I think he’ll turn it around.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
The constructive criticism is overwhelming in here today.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
That’s more like it. Good to have you back.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Haha, 11th most. My bad.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Needs more Air Coryell.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
The constructive criticism is overwhelming in here today.
You know what we all hate about you, Triston? (insert criticism of Triston)
October 4th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
I’m surprised you were able to step away from your 5 star lunch at Steak and Shake to comment.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
My faith in Bruce Smith and Darry Talley is shaken by this information about the ’91 Bills, by the way.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Yards against is a very deceiving statistic, especially if being used to call a defense historically bad. They may be last in yards against, but are 20th in points against, 6th in turnover differential, and 21st in red zone defense. Not good- but also not historically bad. Take for example last week in Oakland- the Pats up 31-13 and Oakland drives 99 yards in garbage time to score a meaningless touchdown. Teams with great offenses that build large leads are more likely to give up yards.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
I dont think their run defense has been totally horrible, going into the last game I was pretty confident McFadden wouldnt go off and they would leave it up to Campbell to beat them.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Tim “Ive been listening to you since I was 12″ Ryan
Didya have a poster of him on your wall too??
Love ya!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Speaking of 5 star eating… CJ have you ever been to Menton in Boston?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Ha. I really did love that station as a kid when it was basically the only sports radio station in existence.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Are you mistaking me for someone who pays a lot of money on dinner? Sorry bud. I am notoriously frugal. Was up there a couple weeks back and the only places I ate at were Fenway, Quincy Market, Cheers, and Jerry Remy’s bar.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
did someone say frugal?
/Papa Ginos
//yum
October 4th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
I mean you might as well just call me Trey
/hits up the Applebees to go window
October 4th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Well going to a nice restaurant doesn’t necessarily mean you’re paying for it.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
So now I’m a hooker?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
carside to go, thank you.
/trey
October 4th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
/takes the weapons out of CJ’s hands
October 4th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Did you stop in to see Berman and Palmer having their two for twenty?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Applebees is French for “LOAD UP EVERY DAMN DISH WITH WAY TOO MUCH FUCKING SALT”
October 4th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
So true. I think the last thing I had there was some kind of teryiaki wanton tacos… my mouth literally chapped up
October 4th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
OT
Buffalo Bleu Cheese Combos are the best
/end OT
//semi-salt hypocrite
October 4th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
They’ve got great milk steak and only the finest raw jelly beans.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
it’s curbside to go, right? fuck.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
You were right the 2nd time Sparty.
Carside.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Hernia, what radio station were you on? And why are the Women of TBL hating on you?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
curbside to go
Applebee’s: food hookers
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
oskie is sparty?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
oskie is sparty?
Ssssshhhhh.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
It’d outscore any Big Ten basketball game this year.
so will the rangers/rays game today.
cant take the pats that serious because that defense is heinous. i thought belichik could fix it, but i doesnt look like he can.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
NDub, all this info is in the Week 4 Power Rankings thread.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
My faith in Bruce Smith and Darry Talley is shaken by this information about the ’91 Bills, by the way.
I wasnt expecting that one either. The 1993 version was also 27th of 28 in yards allowed, but weren’t top 3 on offense. They were somehow 5th in points allowed despite giving up so many yards.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
why are the Women of TBL hating on you?
The hair. And the radio thing was linked on TSH’s blog. If we’re allowed to mention TSH’s blog here. Are we?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Look kids…Big Ben…Parliament…
October 4th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
They were somehow 5th in points allowed despite giving up so many yards
Bend but don’t break! Until the Super Bowl. Then it’s apparently acceptable to break
October 4th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Rays within 1.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
This camera feed really allows you to hear the walkup music for everyone
October 4th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Let’s Go Texas!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Let’s Go Texas!
No way. Go Firesale!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Fuck you and your Orioles.
/cries into the 2004 and 2007 world series banners
October 4th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
as long you don’t allow teams to score, i don’t have a problem with it.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
So Hernia is slow and dumb?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
So Hernia is slow and dumb?
Typical sports radio caller
October 4th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Hernia,
This may be my favorite moment from WFAN in a long time.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
That’s the only thing I’m reading. Patriots will win the Superbowl.
/tosses them in laundry with 2001, 2003, 2004 Superbowl banners, 2008 NBA championship banner, 2011 Stanley Cup banner
//overloads washing machine and hears a thump thump thump for the next hour
October 4th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
You know, screw the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. I’d wait until next year to tank and win the Tyrann Mathieu sweepstakes after he declares following his junior season.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
/unplugs washer while WWS isn’t paying attention
//Pees in washer
///closes lid
////runs away giggling
October 4th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
For the record, I still hate the idea of looking back and counting rings (glare in the direction of Pittsburgh)… I don’t get nearly as much pleasure looking back on championships as frustration from bad teams. Right now it’s just hard because the Sox team has so many unlikeable guys, and even I can no longer defend Youkilis. And while Belichick may be a good coach, it turns out that cutting BOTH your starting safeties right before the season starts, and interpreting a 4-3 defense as only needing 3 competent LB’s, are both bad ideas.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
/hopes Jersey gets stuck with Marian Gaborik on his fantasy team
//now watch Gaborik actually play well this year
October 4th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
2009 Saints (13-3, #1 seed): 25th of 32 in yards allowed; 1st in points and 1st in yards on offense
/ That’s the only thing I’m reading. Patriots will win the Superbowl
That Saints defense was a monster when it came to takeaways, though, which saved their asses in the NFC title game and the Super Bowl. How do the Pats rank for takeaways this season?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
What do you mean?
/Yankees 27 shirts
October 4th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Nothing but Nucks and Capitals on my team this year. That’s how you profit.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
/opens lids
//sniffs questioningly
///”hey Haloti, is this what you smelled on Sanchez every time you destroyed another Jets’ interior lineman?”
October 4th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
How do the Pats rank for takeaways this season?La la la la la
October 4th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
They do have Wilfork island
/it’s more like a continent
October 4th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
It was the impending doom I expected from my 2nd favorite defensive player on the planet. The Saint Peter to Ed Reed’s Jesus, if you will.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
October 4th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
I’m pretty sure he has his own gravitational pull.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Well that screwed up.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Que? 2nd in INTs so far
October 4th, 2011 at 3:42 PM
I’m wondering if the first time I address a comment to GG should be trash talking USF…
October 4th, 2011 at 3:42 PM
jersey, CJ, or anyone else – what’s the draft order for our league?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Why don’t you just call a pig a pig, Lisk
“If you give up 500+ yards to a Jason Campbell team, you ain’t winning shit in January”
October 4th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
/waits for GG to go all stepford wives on WWoS
October 4th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
I don’t think we’ll know until like 9ish.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
The goal? Make sure SC doesn’t win.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Who else is in the league? I was actually relieved there was a spot left today.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
me, you, CJ, vlad, Broccoli, Garland Greene, SC, and 3 others of whom I am unsure of their TBL alias
October 4th, 2011 at 4:10 PM
I’m here, I actually had to work for a minute. Feel free to trash talk, we royally sucked it up last Thursday night.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
“Are you ready for some foot-kissin’?”