Assessing the 0-2 Teams: Carolina May Have Had the Worst Record Last Year, but They Profile As the Most Likely To Surge
Only 10 teams since 2002 have rebounded from an 0-2 start to post a winning record for the season, with 7 of those teams reaching the playoffs. I went through those 10 teams and how their season started to see which among the current teams might be a candidate to bounce back. A few things stood out about those teams.
- They played difficult opening schedules with 15 of the 20 opponents finishing the year with a winning record. All of them lost to at least one team that would go on to a winning record, and 8 of the 10 faced at least one eventual playoff team (3 of them played two playoff teams to open). Only 2004 Buffalo and 2006 Kansas City did not play a playoff team in the first two games.
- They played in close games, and if they didn’t it was because of bad turnover margins.
- They gave up an above average number of points, with 7 of the 10 allowing 48 or more points in the two games. The average result was a 25.0 to 14.6 loss.
In addition, because offense tends to be more consistent than defense, teams that struggle defensively but can move the ball profile as more likely to rebound.
With that in mind, let’s talk about the one team that actually profiles as the most likely to surge to the playoffs. Do your best to set aside pre-conceived notions.
This team has lost two close games where they had 2nd half leads. They have played what appears to be an above average schedule, playing a leading Super Bowl contender and another team that is near average. They have a -3 turnover margin, which has negated a yardage advantage, and they have a whopping 21 more first downs than their opponent through 2 games. They have passed for over 800 yards, but have given up big plays on defense.
Now, I know people are writing them off because they have a rookie quarterback and were the worst team in the league last year, but Carolina, by far, fits the profile of teams that have surged to the playoffs. Eight other teams have lost the first two games despite averaging over 300 passing yards since 1978–only Dallas last year ended up with a losing record over the rest of the season (6-8). Those eight teams also averaged 3.6 interceptions (right in line with Newton’s 4 through the first two games). They went on to win 61.6% of their remaining games. Three of the eight made the playoffs, and a fourth, Washington in 1989, went 10-6 in the final year before playoffs expanded to 12 teams.
The offensive environment is more passing friendly in 2011, but still, Carolina this year has blown even those teams out of the water. The only other one over 700 passing yards in an 0-2 start was the 1994 New England Patriots, interestingly also quarterbacked by a 22-year old first overall pick, Drew Bledsoe. They went 10-6 and made the playoffs.
I talked about how Carolina’s record the previous two years before 2010 suggests they were a better bounce back candidate anyway, but I didn’t expect the passing game to be this productive this early. Many people expect Cam Newton to struggle now. I expect him to experience some ups and downs, but I expect just as much growth as I do decline as defenses figure him out. He’s going to figure them out too. That was evident just over the course of the Green Bay game, where he threw some bad picks and adjusted to what the defense did afterward. I know it seems improbable, but I like the Carolina Panthers over their 4.5 win total now more than I even did earlier, despite the 0-2 start. Going 7-7 or better to finish wouldn’t surprise me.
The rest of the 0-2 teams in order of likelihood to surprise:
2. Miami Dolphins. They have played two likely playoff teams, including the leading Super Bowl contender, and lost by a combined 24 points. They missed field goals, they struggled in the red zone. They will bounce back, but have too difficult a schedule still to make a run.
3. St. Louis Rams. They’ve lost to the Eagles and Giants, and were competitive with the Giants but the biggest factor for the Rams is that they are only 1 game out in a weak division. 8-8 with two games against the NFC East out of the way, and all games against the West remaining, is doable.
4. Minnesota. They had leads in both losses, including on the road at San Diego. The offense has been dreadful in the second half, and really lacks speed on the outside to take pressure off the running game. Because they have been close, they can bounce back, but the schedule doesn’t get much easier with the 6 games against the NFC North remaining.
5. Indianapolis. They only rank this high because the Chiefs and Seahawks are worse, but they don’t really look like a bounceback candidate.
6. Kansas City. The silver lining is that they have a -7 turnover margin and that stuff tends to rebound. Of course, the playoff teams that had such a bad turnover margin when starting 0-2 tended to be outscored by 30 to 40 points over two games, not 79. The offense is a mess and the two best players are both out for the year. They won’t lose every game by 30+ when the turnovers stop, but they’ll still lose plenty by double digits.
7. Seattle. So, Tarvaris Jackson is not the answer, and now the injury news with new signings Sidney Rice and Robert Gallery is not good. This team will only win a handful of games because of the division they play in, but nothing about them looks like a team that can rebound.
[photo via Getty]

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September 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM
not if opponents are going to continue to fake injuries to thwart that effective no-huddle.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Carolina’s just running the football version of a Paul Westhead offense. As long as they let Cam chunk it 40 times a game he’ll get his crazy stats, but I don’t see that translating into many wins.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:24 PM
getting back an effective steven jackson will also be a big part to turning it around, obviously.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:25 PM
The Panthers should at least be entertaining to watch have some value in fantasy football. None of these teams are sniffing the playoffs.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Check that forgot about the Rams and the terrible NFC West
September 21st, 2011 at 12:26 PM
statistics show that everytime the Panthers have Cam throw 30+ times per game, they lose.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:27 PM
not seeing the Browns on the 0-2 list is priceless!
September 21st, 2011 at 12:28 PM
“Which QB gives us a team the best chance for the #1 pick?”
I maintain that T-Jack is the answer.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Chris Mortensen
Final punch from memo: “Going forward, be advised that should the league office determine that there is reasonable cause, all those suspected of being involved in faking injuries will be summoned promptly to this office in New York to discuss the matter. Those found to be violators will be subject to appropriate disciplinary action for conduct detrimental to the game. Discipline could include fines of coaches, players, and clubs, suspensions or forfeiture of draft choices.”
September 21st, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Me English great.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:29 PM
statistics show that everytime the Panthers have Cam throw 30+ times per game, they lose.
1-17 in games when Jimmy Clausen is a Carolina Panther.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I have a feeling that the Chiefs are going to end up being worse than Seattle. The Seahawks have a few weapons, I mean Rice may have been bolstered by having Favre in Minnesota but he’s not bad. The Chiefs have virtually nothing on either side of the ball. This is going to be a monumentally bad season for them.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:31 PM
It was fun while it lasted.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:31 PM
damn, you’re right. obviously, the answer is to cut Clausen and hand the ball off to Williams 40+ times per game.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Im pissed that the Giants got all the pub, when the Chargers were doing a fine job of it on Sunday. I’ll never stop laughing at the video of Brady standing over a cringing Charger to judge his performance.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:33 PM
nope, just injury prone.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:34 PM
/writes post to justify betting on Carolina this week
September 21st, 2011 at 12:35 PM
I’m still a little shocked at how high Lisk is on Fig Newton.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:35 PM
just make the rules that anyone who stops the play due to injury must go for an examination in the trainers room and miss no less than 4 consecutive plays.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:35 PM
no it wasn’t. the Giants single-handidly attempted to turn the NFL into MLS.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I didnt see the Packers game, only thing I had heard about it was he threw over 400 yards again and all the fellating. I didnt hear about the INTs till muuuuch later. The NFL world has found its darling of the year.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Im pissed that the Giants got all the pub, when the Chargers were doing a fine job of it on Sunday. I’ll never stop laughing at the video of Brady standing over a cringing Charger to judge his performance.
New England sports fans are just in insufferable mode as of late. Whiners.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM
You’ve made a spelling error. It’s single-handedly.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I didnt hear about the INTs till muuuuch later. The NFL world has found its darling of the year.
He won’t be the darling when his team is 2-6.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Single handedly? Like this is a new phenomenon?
September 21st, 2011 at 12:38 PM
That’s the part I can’t agree with. Time will tell which one of us was right. It’s probably Lisk, but I’m sticking to my guns.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:38 PM
I said it was funny. But it’s been done for years. Shut the fuck up.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Carolina’s just running the football version of a Paul Westhead offense.
So is Cam playing the part of Orlando Woolridge or is he Michael Adams?
September 21st, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I rewatched a good amount of the Packers game. Those picks to Woodson were pretty tough. But consider the talent on his side of the ball vs the other side, and that he’s the second best offensive player on the team, you have to be a little impressed with how well he played.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:40 PM
But it’s been done for years.
Whining about perceived slights in Boston? Yes, yes it has.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:40 PM
It just got extra sexy in here.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:40 PM
only thing I had heard about it was he threw over 400 yards again and all the fellating.
I don’t think Cam did anywhere close to all of the fellating. He’s still only one man no matter how many yards he throws for.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Greatest finjury ever – Wilile Mcginest on that goal line stand against the Colts
September 21st, 2011 at 12:41 PM
E was so offindid by that bullshet, I git my i’s and e’s mexed up now. apologeis.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Laughed out loud at my screen. +1
September 21st, 2011 at 12:42 PM
The Packers secondary is pretty terrible. Nick Collins was already out and Tramon Williams was hurt too. I’m waiting for Cam to play a team that makes him nickel and dime them down the field. Blitzing the guy just makes him throw to his hot or scramble.
Make him think. He won’t. Not yet, at least.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Oh I’m impressed. Didnt think he’d start like this at all.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:43 PM
The Packers secondary is pretty terrible.
Easy there.. big fella. Terrible? That would be the saints or cardinal’s secondary.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:43 PM
You’ve made a spelling error. It’s Willie.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:43 PM
It’s amazing how I can be in a good mood until I come here. Assbags.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Assbags.
I believe that should be two words.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:45 PM
just blame it on going off your b.c. pills
September 21st, 2011 at 12:45 PM
bags of ass
/sportsgal’d
September 21st, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Come now, don’t turn into SG. I’m not sure we can handle that.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:45 PM
You’re forgetting about the Cowgirls here as well…
September 21st, 2011 at 12:46 PM
You need a hug.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:46 PM
I know, right? This place sets the bar for my annoyance tolerance level for the day.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Dick faces.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
We’ll see how terrible that secondary is after 4 INT’s off cutlerfucker this weekend.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
You’ve made a spelling error. It’s cum.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Someone needs to find CJ some morning wood.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
That and BJ Raji and Clay Matthews sacking Cutler at least 3 times each.
/fuck the Bears
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Awwww… beebee sloth…
September 21st, 2011 at 12:47 PM
I’m sensing a perceived slight of the awfulness of the Pats secondary. WHIIIIIIINE.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:49 PM
McCorty is pretty solid, but the rest is pretty hot garbage.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:49 PM
So the Giants started this injury faking business in 2011? I suppose it was totally OK when the WHOLE FUCKING league was doing this against the Bills in the late 80s and 90s. How come nothing changed then?
September 21st, 2011 at 12:49 PM
One slight comment of ridicule thrown at Sex and the City and fellow coworkers have to deal with Miranda the rest of the day.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:49 PM
You spelled sacks wrong. Jay has made good decisions with the ball this year. When he’s not under 2 defensive linemen and a blitzing safety.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:50 PM
+5
September 21st, 2011 at 12:50 PM
+ 1 point for accuracy. -5 for originality.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:50 PM
It’s really strange, I think I blame it on the sports media being bored this week and that’s the issue they jumped on.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Cowfags then? I have called them that a few times before.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Cowfags then? I have called them that a few times before.
Tony Homo and The Village People?
September 21st, 2011 at 12:53 PM
It is better. filled with more vitriol is always the best way to go.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Like how everyone jumped on the Pats for Spygate, but when Jimmy Johnson went on TV saying that every team in the league has taped practices for years, nobody changed their stance?
September 21st, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Jay Cutler at the podium at Halas Hall in 5 minutes. We’ll see just how scrambled his eggs are based on how many times he has to stop to wipe the drool from his lip.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:54 PM
I slept four hours last night and have an awesome cold right now. I don’t even have the energy to be physically bitchy to anyone. Just enough energy to type out my annoyance to others.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:55 PM
No comment!
September 21st, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Giants players going down like those fainting goats.
http://youtu.be/we9_CdNPuJg
September 21st, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Have players ever done it so comically obvious though? That’s what pissed the league off.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:57 PM
sack up, toots.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:59 PM
who cares about 0-2 teams? the redskins are 2-0 and about to be 3-0, bitches!
September 21st, 2011 at 12:59 PM
That’s a mean video. They’re trying to make them faint on purpose, poor things.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Is Peggy really a nickname for someone named Margaret? The fuck?
/work related
September 21st, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Have players ever done it so comically obvious though? That’s what pissed the league off.
Has the league ever been so comically pissed off all the time before the Goodell years? At this point it just seems like the league office is a bad, micro-managing boss looking to take a dump on the players for everything.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:00 PM
This is why the Pats got in trouble…
From angel Jimmy Johnson…
“…and the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And so that’s when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don’t do it any more, he did it.”
September 21st, 2011 at 1:01 PM
I think kickers are much worse actors
September 21st, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Saints def. coordinator Gregg Williams–more specifically, Roman Harper, Cam Jordan and Will Smith–looks forward to “meeting” Cam Newton in a couple weeks.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:01 PM
League office also taken aback that the coach who seemingly has the largest stick up his ass at all times is the one coaching his players on this.
I’m thinking if it’s Rex they let it slide.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Is Peggy really a nickname for someone named Margaret? The fuck?
Yep. That’s my sister’s name.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Gregg Williams
oh-ver-rae-tid
/clap, clap, clap
September 21st, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Margaret” has spawned a bewildering variety of nicknames, from “Margot” to “Daisy.”
The name itself is a variant of the obsolete word “margarite,” meaning “pearl” or “precious stone.” It is apparently of ancient Asian origin, filtered through Greek, Latin, Teutonic and Old French.
It became a very popular given name in medieval England and Scotland, where it was conventionally taken to mean “pearl.”
Since “Margaret” is quite a mouthful, nicknames soon spun off from it. Perhaps the strangest is “Daisy.” It’s a pun dating to a time when “margaret” was also an English slang term for the ox-eye daisy. It became an independent first name during the 1900s fad for flower-based names.
More common were such shortenings and diminutions as “Maggie,” “Meggie” and “Meg.” Some etymologists say that the diminutive “Maggie” form came first, with “Meg” following as a shortened form; others say the shortened form “Meg” came first, with “Maggie” and “Meggie” following as diminutive forms. Nobody really knows.
What we do know is that “Peg” is an altered form of “Meg,” and “Peggy” is an altered form of “Meggie.”
“Meggie” and “Meg” were distinctively Scottish nicknames, so “Peg” and “Peggy” probably were, too.
But no one knows why the “M” was changed to a “P.” (A theory about Celtic-language influence has proven fruitless.) They are similar consonant sounds; maybe the change was inspired by a nonsense-rhyme nickname like “Meggy-Peggy.”
Interestingly, the same morphology can be seen in nicknames for “Mary.” “Molly” is a pet form of “Mary”; “Polly” is a variant form of “Molly,” with the “M” also mysteriously changed to a “P.”
It’s unusual for a nickname to become an independent first name by itself. But “Peg” and “Peggy” have done so (apparently first occurring in the U.S.), no doubt aided by their lack of clear connection to “Margaret.”
September 21st, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Yes, but that’s not what the public outrage and copious media coverage was about.
Like the Giants faking injuries. Not saying what they did was right or should be ignored. Just saying it’s nothing new.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:04 PM
The Giants are actually claiming that one player was cramping up and the other tripped and fell.
https://twitter.com/#!/mortreport/status/116548466645274625
September 21st, 2011 at 1:05 PM
I think kickers are much worse actors
The kickers are associated with diving soccer players anyways and it’s an automatic 1st down. So it’s expected behaviour from sissies and there is a big reward.
NY Goat fainting on the other hand just allows them to catch their breath or substitute. Basically their acting like wimps to give the game more commercial time which is enraging.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:06 PM
/cJ Morris
September 21st, 2011 at 1:07 PM
When was the last time you saw it this overt in the NFL?
The Cal players last year (or the year before) were excoriated and the coach was suspended for acts like this.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:07 PM
Shit got weird a thousand years ago
September 21st, 2011 at 1:07 PM
oh-ver-rae-tid
/clap, clap, clap
As long as it’s not “head coach Gregg Williams,” it’s all good.
/Wade Phillips’d
September 21st, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Wow. Jay sounds like shit. That kick to the throat fucked his voice up. He’s more pissy than usual today.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Yep. That’s my sister’s name.
Peggy Starkweather? Sounds like she should be a television reporter.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:09 PM
And thank you for the explanation, Ceej. I now have a full understanding of the etymology of Peggy. That’s one helluva jmorris.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:10 PM
I copy and pasted that from Yahoo answers by the way. Full disclosure.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Sounds like she should be a television reporter.
She did go to high school with Eric Metcalf. If only she would have used her contacts better back then…
September 21st, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Oh, you said TV reporter. I took it to mean sideline reporter
September 21st, 2011 at 1:11 PM
I was thinking that but then I stumbled upon ‘The Subtle Art of the NFL Flop’
September 21st, 2011 at 1:13 PM
/sam eifling’d
September 21st, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Oh, you said TV reporter. I took it to mean sideline reporter
Either works. “Peggy Starkweather reporting here live at the scene of the pie fight….”
See.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:14 PM
0-6! Fuck the Giants and ShEli.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:17 PM
I enjoyed this link.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:39 PM
0-6! Fuck the Giants and ShEli.
Come talk shit about the Giants when the Faygles win a Super Bowl. The Giants had the biggest upset in SB history, plus 2 other championships. The Eagles have a history of vomiting away championships – that is when they get there.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:49 PM
Touche. Still 0-6.
/does DX crotch chop to devang
//expect lots of hate on twitter this week
///eats a Tony Lukes cheesesteak
////burns a couch
September 21st, 2011 at 2:10 PM
I think it’s smart what the Panthers are doing. Cam is learning on the job the right way… by throwing the everliving fuck out of the ball and reading coverages/blitzes. It’s the right way to do it. It also keeps Steve Smiff happy because he’s the primary beneficiary of that gameplan.
They will improve enough to win games. The defense is marginal enough to keep them in most scoring contests until Cam makes few enough mistakes for them to come out ahead.
Why more teams don’t take the “fuck it, let’s lose with a rookie QB slinging it around” stance with their rebuilding effort, I don’t know. Who cares if Cam throws 30 INTs this season. You have to learn by breaking eggs.
September 21st, 2011 at 2:30 PM
The NFL world has found its darling of the year.
Good call.
Richardson, who said that Newton “was dressed perfectly” for their meeting, was blunt. “I said, ‘Do you have any tattoos?’” Richardson told Rose. “He said, ‘No, sir. I don’t have any.’ I said, ‘Do you have any piercings?’ He said, ‘No, sir. I don’t have any.’ I said, ‘We want to keep it that way.’ . . . .
“We want to keep no tattoos, no piercings, and I think you’ve got a very nice haircut.”
Interjected the host: “You sound like a Lombardi.”
Said Richardson, “No, I just sound reasonable to me.”