A Thought About the Cleveland Browns: My 2011 Sleeper Team
You always have to be careful of overreaction in the preseason. So, I’m going to violate that when it comes to the Cleveland Browns. I’ll rationalize it by saying that I already had this team circled this offseason, and I already had them as “an easy over” at 6.5 wins. So, I’m not just reacting to how the Browns’ starters played against the Packers on Saturday night (Cleveland, after all, beat Green Bay in the opener last year as well). Of all the teams that are currently projected at 7 or fewer wins by the betting public, they are the team that I think presents the greatest upside to have one of those turnaround seasons that have become so common in the NFL.
Before we get to this year, though, let’s take a quick assessment of 2010. At the outset of the season, I don’t think there was much optimism. Eric Mangini was as lame duck as a coach could be. The team had acquired Jake Delhomme as its quarterback (a move that defines negative energy), and though they also drafted Colt McCoy, that move seemed something that would not matter yet. Peyton Hillis was a little-known fullback traded for Brady Quinn.
On the surface, if you skip ahead, the 5-11 record would have confirmed all the negative thoughts. As it turns out, the Browns were a lot more competitive than people thought, closer to an average team, just one that was cursed by two things: a tough schedule, and a tendency to play to the level of (or just below) their competition. Cleveland played 10 teams that won 10 or more games, going 2-8. However, the two wins were impressive, at New Orleans and handing New England their only dominant defeat of the year. They also lost 4 other games by 7 or less against 10+ win teams, including in overtime to the Jets.
They only went 3-3, though, in games against teams with a losing record, and the Browns ended the year 3-7 in close games. They played one of the hardest schedules in the league, and the simple rating system has them as just below average and 20th in the league (-1.5 points below), and Football Outsiders’ DVOA likewise had them at 20th, but in both cases, a lot closer to several teams in front of them.
What the Browns had were some fatal flaws that prevented them from taking a step forward. On offense, they lacked explosiveness in the passing game, and the leading wide receiver was Mohammad Massaquoi, who managed 483 yards. The passing offense relied heavily on veteran TE Ben Watson and RB Peyton Hillis, and the result was limited big plays and, combined with the schedule, the 2nd fewest points scored. On defense, the issue was generating consistent pass rush, as the team ranked in the bottom quarter of the league with 29 sacks, as well as controlling the middle of the line, as teams weren’t afraid to run at Cleveland (4th most rush attempts against).
I happen to think that teams who show some promise but “play to the level of their competition” due to some inconsistency are better bets for future breakouts than teams that beat the teams they are supposed to beat but get consistently outclassed by quality competition (i.e., Jacksonville). Cleveland flashed against New England, New Orleans, and the Jets, but also struggled with Carolina, Cincinnati, and Jacksonville.
So the question is, have they addressed those flaws? Here are some reasons to like Cleveland in 2011:
–The offensive line has the potential to be very good. The left side is perhaps the best in the league, with Joe Thomas at left tackle, Eric Steinbach at guard and Alex Mack at center. The right side could be upgraded if Tony Pashos and Shawn Lauvao stay healthy this year, as they both were hurt last season but should take over and upgrade John St. Clair and Pork Chop Womack.
–Stability at the quarterback position. Last year, Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace both started 4 games along with rookie Colt McCoy. McCoy is entering his second year as the starter and has the confidence of the coaching staff. Several breakout teams in the past have involved young quarterbacks moving into their second year as a starter.
–New Coach. Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator in St. Louis last year, takes over. Mangini was the lame duck, but Shurmur is GM Mike Holmgren’s choice. He’s got a good coaching lineage, and will install a West Coast offense that fits Colt McCoy, has a good pass catching back in Hillis, and a line that can execute. We’ve seen plenty of examples (Mike Smith, Sean Payton come to mind) of coaches turning things around quickly.
–Upgrade of the Receiving Group. I like Greg Little as a talent that slipped to the second round because he missed all of last year at North Carolina. He upgrades the position, even as a rookie. It’s also a young group, with Brian Robiskie (23 years old), Carlton Mitchell (23 years old-finger surgery) and Massaquoi (24 years old, foot), though the latter two are injured right now. If any of those three guys emerge, the team should take a step forward.
–The defensive line. They’re going back to more of a 4-3, and selected Baylor DT Phil Taylor to play in the middle, and also added DE Jabaal Sheard. D’Qwell Jackson returns from missing all last year at linebacker, and the linebacker corp battled injuries last year. With better health, and the emergence of corner Joe Haden late last year, the back 7 will be fine. If the line is improved with the young additions (a big if), this team could take a big leap.
There is a tendency to wait too long on things. So maybe I’m a little early on the Browns, and it won’t happen for Cleveland this year. I’d rather be early than late. They still have Pittsburgh and Baltimore twice, though the schedule appears to open up (NFC West, AFC South, and Oakland/Miami). I’ll throw my hat in the Browns’ early bandwagon. I can at least see the possibility, if a couple of things work out, of this team making a big jump in 2011.
[photo via Getty]

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August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
No! I told the hubby last night that this was MY sleeper team!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Joe Thomas with the straight DERP face.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Is Spencer giddy yet?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
/cries
this is the happiest day of my life.
/prepares for 4-12
August 16th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Um, which one of you gays wrote the caption?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
But he is hunky.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
I think I’d rather have McCoy than Sanchez. Not really sure.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
I’d rather have Hillis
August 16th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
I’m going to draft Cleveland’s D for all my fantasy teams I believe.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Wait, are we talking sexually? That might be a tossup.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
In Colt We Trust.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
the preseason performance was great and everything but im still trying everything in my power to temper expectations. but god damn did colt mccoy look perfect for shurmur’s west coast offense.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
CJ has been getting a little warm from Sanchez’s latest GQ spread, it seems.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Did Clown write this?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
When are we not?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Browns last 5 games of the season: Pitt @Bal Ari @Pitt Bal
The first 11 don’t look too bad, but 4 of 5 games to end the season with the Stillers and Ravens? Ugh.
The DL and LB’s worry me. The secondary has the pieces to be very solid.
The OL should be fantastic for Thundercock and Hardesty (if he ever gets healthy) to run behind. I like Colt, but his weapons leave a lot to be desired.
/8-8 would be solid
August 16th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
mccoy isn’t getting benched anytime soon for seneca wallace or jarrett brown.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Um, which one of you gays wrote the caption?
Had to be CRM.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
West Coast O does seem to fit Colt McCoy’s physical tools. Or at least hide his limitations a little. I mean, it was an offense originally designed to move the ball through passing by a noodle armed QB. And McCoy has converted me to believe his noodle arm is good enough. But those WRs are not very good, even if Greg Little turns out to be very good
August 16th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
phil taylor looked really good too. he moves extremely well for someone 338…definitely a surprise as all the draft chatter made me think of him more as a plugging 3-4 NT.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Wait, are we talking sexually?
When are we not?
I don’t think there was much sexuality discussion going on in SC’s ipecac-tequila shot story.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
I was under the impression the post author is the captionator most of the time. That may be just a pseudo-intellectual reading of things, though. My guess is that Mrs. Lisk has opined on Spencer’s crush
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Thundercock is what you want.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
the TE’s and RB’s are quite good though. makes up for it. ben watson is underrated and evan moore should get a chance (dude averaged like 20 a catch last year…just wasn’t used enough). and the draft pick TE, jordan cameron, has been decent in camp so far. hillis and jackson can both catch out of the backfield and it’s one of hardesty’s calling cards from his scouting report.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
evan moore should get a chance (dude averaged like 20 a catch last year…just wasn’t used enough)
If he was used more last year, there seems a decent chance that that average would have gone down.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Did I ever tell you about the time Joe Thomas and I went horseback riding, but there weren’t any horses around? Anyway, Joe Thomas throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn’t ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Joe Thomas decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I’m running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they’re about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, hes a human.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
I’m tellin’ ya. Brownies go 4-2 in the division this year and win 8 games!
/barks
//but I’m serious
August 16th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
no doubt but still would’ve been near the top for TE’s…but the kid’s good, mangini just never gave him a consistent chance. he can’t block worht a damn tho.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I like the Browns to win 8 games this year. They are definitely not a terrible team, but I don’t think they are just there yet.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Cleveland still lacks a go-to receiver. MoMass is a decent No. 2, but they are going to have to find a No. 1 pretty soon.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Actually… I wanted to bang that server so that’s why I helped her out. She was cute. Sadly, I found out she had a kid. Launch was aborted.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
this. lotta cap space tho for a FA if colt proves he’s a good QB. buncha draft picks too.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Eh, why not, I’ll throw a milk bone to the loveable Dawg Pound… 5-11 it is.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
I’d rather have Hillis
The next time this guy gets tackled, that’s it. He runs too hard, and is too white to last very long. I saw one Browns game last year all the way through, and I was sure he got knocked out for the season 3 times.
Also, Phil Taylor, nice pick. I wonder about those foot problems though.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Well played
August 16th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Moore is solid. Sounds like they are going to use him in a slot receiver role because of his size and hands. Dude has wheels too for a 250 lb TE…
I was surprised they took the USC TE because they had Watson and Moore. But, they needed another blocking TE for short yardage since Moore is really just a big WR.
Hardesty is the wild card. If he’s healthy, then he and Hillis will be absolutely lethal behind that OL.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
cameron’s just a big WR too. still don’t get that pick…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Next year’s WR class is going to be pretty damn good, too. Blackmon, Jeffrey, the Notre Dame drunk, Broyles and Posey just to name a few.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Browns last 5 games of the season: Pitt @Bal Ari @Pitt Bal
that’s just wrong.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I don’t see how this defense will be that good, JayV.
Also, not sure why they let Eric Wright leave. He had an off year last year, but he’s still a solid player.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
I don’t think there was much sexuality discussion going on in SC’s ipecac-tequila shot story.
Actually… I wanted to bang that server so that’s why I helped her out. She was cute. Sadly, I found out she had a kid. Launch was aborted.
Well then, I stand corrected.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
He runs too hard, and is too white to last very long.
Also, if somebody gets a finger into one those tracks on his forearms while they’re trying to tackle him his arms might just deflate
August 16th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Good point. Forgot that he was a pass catcher too. You’re right. That’s the one the made me scratch my head.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
oh man…jeffrey. WANT.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Next year’s WR class is going to be pretty damn good, too. Blackmon, Jeffrey, the Notre Dame drunk, Broyles and Posey just to name a few.
Don’t forget Travis Benjamin. He might be the worst player in the country but he’s going to run like a 4.04 at the combine and the Raiders will take him in the 1st round
August 16th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
…at least you get Arizona at home?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Rusty –
Take it from Browns’ fans. He absolutely sucks. No redeeming quality whatsoever. The Lions will likely toss him on the junk pile by week 5…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I’m still jarred that TBL allowed a pro-anything out of Ohio post.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I was watching NFL network with no sound at the bar last night, their fantasy football guys were pushing hard for Hillis to be the number 1 ‘stay away from this guy’ guy. I didnt have the sound on, but I figured they were talking about how white he was.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
I need to watch him more this year. He seems like a total beast, though he also seems to be pounding the cheeseburgers a bit too much as well.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
I was about to say that Hillis is on his way to having a shorter career than Mike Alstott, but in the interest of making a correct assertion, I checked out Alstott’s career first…he actually had some decent longevity given his position.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Aren’t you Browns fans a little bit concerned about Shurmur though? That’d be my concern going into this season. Holmgren knows what he’s doing behind the scenes. Shurmur we only have a limited history go off of. None of it as a head coach. I don’t think he was even an HC in college, right?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Actually, I screwed up. Nope, Arizona in the desert too. I messed up the order, but the point is still valid. 4 of last 5 against Pitt and Bal…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
meh…i got a gut feeling this will be a down year for either the steelers or the ravens. ravens are hanging onto competency by a aging thread and it’s only a matter of time until big ben gets killed thanks to that shitty OL.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
I’m still jarred that TBL allowed a pro-anything out of Ohio post.
Predictions for Browns fans this year: take the over. The oddsmakers have their over/under set at The worst. But they are absolutely worse than that
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I know it’s preseason and it was against Philly, but the ravens D looked like dogshit earlier this week. Vick and company had n problem moving the ball. That couldn’t ALL be from Ed Reed’s absense, right?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
he can lean on holmgren and jauron. also, ray rhodes and gil haskell are there too. good group to get advice from for a rookie HC.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Aren’t you Browns fans a little bit concerned about Shurmur though? That’d be my concern going into this season. Holmgren knows what he’s doing behind the scenes. Shurmur we only have a limited history go off of. None of it as a head coach. I don’t think he was even an HC in college, right?
did your radio just say all of this to you? How many current NFL head coaches have college coaching experience? 10? Less? Probably less.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
They are still in Cleveland, right?
/I really hope they do well but that division is tough.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
That may be just a pseudo-intellectual reading of thing
Have a tough time decided if this browns sleeper picker is pseudo intellectual or intellectually pseudo?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Next post: “Ohio is a money pit” by Barry Janoff.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
though he also seems to be pounding the cheeseburgers a bit too much as well.
Alshon Jeffrey to the Lions
August 16th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Raheem Morris, Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, and John Harbaugh are all ready to fart on you… to name a few.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
this a joke?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Hillis will be better this year if Hardesty is good and takes carries away from him. Thundercock would be more effective running it 15-18 times a game, plus 4-6 receptions.
Ideally, he and Hardesty could split carries if he is as good as I hope.
If not, then Hillis will tote it 25-28 times per and just get ground up in the next 2 years.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
save hillis for the red zone. use jackson and hardesty the rest. save the dude’s legs/body and he might have a 3 year career instead of only a 2 year one.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I MISSED FOOTBALL SO MUCH
August 16th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Dirt, Jersey- sure there are examples of guys with no HC experience that do well. Just saying that a guy with no experience is learning on the fly.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Hillis is the Madden cover boy this year. Reason number 456 that they will under-perform.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Holmgren knows what he’s doing behind the scenes.
based on???? Did I miss something? They took the responsibility away from him in Seattle, right?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
parcells only coached air force for one year before getting the giants job…just saying.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Just saying that a guy with no experience is learning on the fly.
It could be argued that the inexperience works in a coach’s favor, too. He isn’t burnt out yet and he isn’t set in his ways so he could willing to alter his approach to meet the situations he’s facing a bit more.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
holmgren never coached before getting the GB job and he did ok.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
based on the fact he hasn’t gotten too involved. good sign. if he were meddling, it’d be concerning.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Well, the current trend dictates that those “learning on the fly guys” are kind of successful if they’re resume and reputation have held up. Being a hc with no experience isn’t a concern these days at all. There’s probably more HC experience at the coordinator level then at the actual HC level right now.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
parcells only coached air force for one year before getting the giants job…just saying.
I don’t think there are 5 current NFL head coaches that were head coaches in college. I can think of 3 off the top of my head, but I know there’s not 10.
It’s not a criterium for being an NFL head coach, at all. It’s the opposite these days.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
they’re=their. Damnit.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Stark, CJ – I think someone hacked your account and made you post in the Janoff post.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
You have to understand that I’ve seen this look on this guy’s face far too many times.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Mike McCarthy can add that to roundness and bringing the Packers a championship to the list of things he holds in common with Holmgren
August 16th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
There’s also Tony Sparano and Gary Kubiak we can point to. I mean, it works both ways. I’m not saying Shurmur is a shitbox coach, just that he’s got nothing to go off of to indicate any performance one way or another.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I’m not saying
yeah, you’re just talking to hear yourself talk.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Tony Sparano actually fills your criteria of having hc experience at the college level. And he isn’t that bad of a coach.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
OK then…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
agreed and that’s a good point. but it helps that he was hired as a part of the org already in place rather than the savior like every other browns coach in the expansion era. it’s nice that he knows the system that heckert and holmgren have been building the roster.
it’s a whole lot better than a coach going it alone without the support.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Re: Browns schedule.
It was only a couple years ago that Cinci went undefeated in the division. Look at Oakland last year. Weird shit happens in the NFL.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
I’m not trying to gang op on you SC, but there is a pretty good list of coaches that haven’t had any good HC experience and have done a more than acceptable job. It would be futile to be concerned about something like that these days.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
yes.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
I hate the Dolphins’ offense so much.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
you mean that year where they won something like seven games by less than four points? FLUKEFRAUDS.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
GSG, I didn’t get hacked. I’m Janoff’s biggest fan and he just put out another winner
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
No no, I thought it was a great post. Very thought provoking. In no way a copy & paste from a press release.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
New Orleans -10.5 @ Seattle. It sure does. Oh, and the Chicago Bears made the NFC Title game last year. NASA is still working on that one.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
GSG, I didn’t get hacked. I’m Janoff’s biggest fan and he just put out another winner
he’s for sure not this site’s worst writer.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Shit got results his first year in the league. And it’s not his fault that the people running the show don’t care enough to find him a QB when there are ones out there.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Lots of former Packers coaches in that group.
/Go Pack Go
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
On paper the Browns look solid. But I’m *expecting too many injuries at key positions for them to be a real contender to make the playoffs.
*read: “hoping for”
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
YES YOU ARE!!!
/cowers in corner
//eats wheel of sharp cheddar
August 16th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
/whispers Andy Reid and Rex Ryan into ear
//pats him on back
August 16th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Yeah, but that lame-o offense was picked up on pretty quickly after teams got film and game experience. It’s so damn flukey and you saw it suck last year. It’s so fucking conservative, too.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Did anybody else laugh at Rex Ryan’s flipout last night? Ten yards on the field, red face, and slamming the headset. It could’ve been any coach and I would’ve laughed, so don’t think I’m picking on Coach Footfucker (except right there).
August 16th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
That’s a hell of a sumo tag team there…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
But but but ANDY REID IS TEH SUX
August 16th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Bottom line: the Browns will be fine as long as they don’t wear those God awful brown pants this year. Hideous. Just hideous.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
those were retired before last season…we’ll never see them again, hopefully.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
I think that was a result of getting calls against the Detroit Lions.
I think the Brown pants were killed after the 2009 season. the browns have some nice orange pants that they need to bust out more often.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
So…. NFC sleeper teams? And you’re not allowed to say the Lions.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
those were retired before last season…we’ll never see them again, hopefully.
Except for Throwback to 2009 weekend
August 16th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Bottom line:
bottom line, you can’t stop talking.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
So…. NFC sleeper teams?
Panthers
August 16th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
I don’t even know if I can call the Bucs a sleeper. But I’m on the bandwagon. I even called radio control.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
I guess my sleeper team choices really arent original
August 16th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
lol…jerome harrison went apeshit on the chiefs during a meaningless week 15 game! share your favorite memories of this road game at cleveland browns stadium!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
So…. NFC sleeper teams? And you’re not allowed to say the Lions.
Packers. With all the cock sucking the Eagles are getting right now, you’d think they won the Super Bowl last year.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
I HATE that the Lions are the sexy or sleeper or whatever pick in the NFC. Just hate it. You people will be disappointed. I’m fucking tell you right now, this is the Detroit Lions.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
NFC Sleeper teams?
I expect the Cowgirls to do better (7-9 wins), Rams to win the division and maybe the Cardinals to compete strongly as well. Oh and the Lions to win 9 games.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
that bandwagon is gonna crash and burn.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
I was being an ass throwing the Packers out there by the way. I wasn’t seriously insinuating they were a sleeper team, lest you all get your panties in a bunch.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
I think the Bucs smell of 7-9 this season, tough schedule and they were a year early in getting to 10 wins by eking out wins against bad teams
Can the Giants be considered a sleeper in that it would surprise some people if they won the division?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
sleeper = rex grossman led redskins
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
I HATE that the Lions are the sexy or sleeper or whatever pick in the NFC
I would totally fuck the Lions to the playoffs pick. It just does something to me
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
With you except for the Lions. I’d take the Cowfags as a team with a shot to get out of the NFC. Cards could be pretty good. Kolb throwing jump balls to Fitz for 6. I really like the Rams. Win that West by 2 games at least.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
I’m gonna go with the Cardinals. Go Kolb!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
My big sleeper pick right now is Victor Ortiz to beat Money Mayweather. I might even put money on that.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
/writes down and files into safe deposit box
//I’ll remember this statement Spence
August 16th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Go Kol-b, not Cobb.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Actually, if you look at their schedule, it’s rather favorable out of the division. Maybe they’re the weird loss for New England this year. That would be unexpectedly humorous.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Leonard Hankerson leads the Redskins, not the QB
August 16th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
You know who I can no longer take serious? Manny Pacquiao after that HP Touchpad commercial. Holy shit. Sweet bowl cut, brah.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Vikings
August 16th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Skins @ Bills in Canada. Final score… probably like 6-5. More interceptions thrown than points scored. That’d be a fun gadget bet.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Ha! Ortiz is one of the more savage hitters Mayweather’s going to have come across recently. What’s the price on Ortiz right now?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
It’s not that high, really. It’s mostly like a 4-1 but I just feel like this is going to be Ortiz big moment. He’ll go back to being lazy and kooky after he wins and just get slaughtered his next time out but this fight should be his absolute peak
August 16th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
My thing is, Ortiz loves to punch and hates to watch his face. Mayweather hates to get hit and loves to tap you in the chin. I mean… it’s pretty cut and dry right there. Wish I was going back to Vegas for this.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
The Brownies!?!? You should go back to sleep.
Put me down in the camp that thinks the Ravens are going to disappoint. Offense is significantly worse and defense has passed experienced and is now just old.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
I actually think it could be better.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
Looks like that Jets lineman that got hurt last night broke a leg. Good thing the Jets added depth in free agency instead of wasting a week chasing a corner they didn’t need. Oh wait..
August 16th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
anything midwest related sure does move the needle round here.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
The Jets of the AFC North? Nothing good comes from here. 6-10 and I LIKE McCoy at QB.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
He was a backup center and a luxury extra blocker. Stop talking.