Life Has Not Been Kind to Victor Page Since He Left Georgetown
Back in the 90s, when I was a huge Georgetown Hoyas’ fan, Victor Page had a brilliant 2-year run under coach John Thompson. A flashy lefty not afraid to dunk on anyone or fire up a heat check with a defender in his jersey, Page was fearless and confident. He was named MVP of the Big East tournament in 1996 (the year Ray Allen topped Allen Iverson in the finals) even though UConn rallied to beat Georgtown for the crown. When Iverson left for the NBA, Page averaged 22 ppg as a sophomore and it seemed like he could have a pro career. It’s criminal that there are no videos of Page’s time at Georgetown on the internet.
Also criminal? Victor Page. The guy’s had a tough life – he had cocaine charges and gun charges as a senior in high school – and recently was arrested for 4th degree burglary. This horrendous mugshot is making the rounds. Why is Page wearing an eye patch? He was shot in the eye while sitting in his car in DC two days before Thanksgiving in 2003. Where did it all go wrong for the former Big East star? This fantastic NY Times story from 2006 says it all:
But Page second-guesses the middle months of 1997. At a predraft camp in Chicago, he spent an evening at a hotel bar, in plain sight of N.B.A. team officials, then stayed out all night and missed workouts in the morning.
Instead of being drafted by the N.B.A., he went 11th in the C.B.A. draft. The N.B.A.’s Minnesota Timberwolves signed him in September, but he was cut a few weeks later — after, Page said, he was involved in a fight outside a hotel in St. Louis, injured his arm, then lied about it to team officials.
Page’s criminal history in the last decade is lengthy and scary:
In 2004, Page was arrested for carrying a pistol without a license; he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and received probation. In 2005, he was arrested for theft, but the case was dismissed; Page said it was a misunderstanding after he had borrowed a friend’s car.A few weeks ago, Page’s name resurfaced in news accounts when a 19-year-old cousin of his named Jerome Stroud was sentenced to 91 years in prison for his role in the killing of two teenagers in 2004. Court documents submitted by the prosecution said that Stroud’s motive was to retaliate for the shooting of Page, The Washington Post reported.
It’s amazing I’ve gotten this far without mentioning the “Christmas Day Massacre,” which is the story of the time Page was playing in a CBA game, got upset, and took a broomstick from under the hoop and attacked a player. I won’t even ask how Page got into an elite University like Georgetown – Billy Packer once told me a story about how his wife asked Thompson how Allen Iverson got into the school and it didn’t go over well.
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August 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuutal.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Basketball is my favorite sport. But c’mon.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
ARRRRRRRR
August 10th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
I heard he was a dead eye shooter from 3.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Man, poor Slick Rick.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
I imagine Thompson screamed RACISM!!!
August 10th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
A flashy lefty not afraid to stop a one on none fast break to jack up a terrible and awkward jump shot from around the top of the key.
Corrected for how terrible Victor Page really was. 22ppg does not tell the story of how shitty he was. There were lots of reasons for him to go undrafted and they all happened on the court
August 10th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
So…uh…was he shot in his left or right eye? Because his left eye looks fucked up.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
Thompson unfairly gets a pass for a lot of things that other coaches have been villified for. Page playing at Georgetown should have been scrutinized a bit more by the media.
Much like his son is now he was a hell of recruiter who is an overrated developer of talent.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
There’s a bump on his nose next to his ‘good’ eye, maybe the bullet is still lodged in there
August 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
But Page second-guesses the middle months of 1997. At a predraft camp in Chicago, he spent an evening at a hotel bar, in plain sight of N.B.A. team officials, then stayed out all night and missed workouts in the morning.
Maybe not all. The guy sounds like he has enough personal problems. There have been plenty of horrid players who could ‘score’ that got a chance in the league.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
how “shitty” was he, Stark?
“shitty” enough to start 33 games as a freshman?
“shitty” enough to dropped 34 on Villanova in the Big East semifinals as a FRESHMAN? That was a good Villanova team (had Kittles)
August 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Corrected for how terrible Victor Page really was. 22ppg does not tell the story of how shitty he was. There were lots of reasons for him to go undrafted and they all happened on the court
He was such a maddening player. On the one hand, he could be absolutely dominant — the BE championship game, he was unstoppable. But, just like Stark wrote, he could kill a team as well. He played like he thought he was The Answer, Part II, but he wasn’t close.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
His eye patch was getting itchy so he just switched sides for a while.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Should have headed to the NFL where all the other former college stars who don’t have the athleticism to make it in the NBA end up.
Plus, then we could root for him.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
But thems the breaks.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Much like his son is now he was a hell of recruiter who is an overrated developer of talent.
Seems to me that Hibbert and Green developed pretty well at Gtown. And only Monroe has been a huge recruit (though Wright and Freeman were both pretty good).
August 10th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Billy Packer once told me a story about how his wife asked Thompson how Allen Iverson got into the school and it didn’t go over well
Allen Iverson, fwiw, was on his way to UVA before that whole legal trouble thing and UVA is on about equal footing with Georgetown from an overall academic perspective. Iverson is a freakish, 1-in-100 million type of athletic talent that had talent evaluators in two sports drooling from the time he was 12 years old or so.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
But did he figure out who the white whale is?
August 10th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Does he have a bad eye, or did he just do a shitty job reading the instructions on the NicoDerm box?
August 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
I’ve made this argument before about JTIII and I stand by it. He isn’t a great recruiter. For all the talent that’s come out of DC in the last 10 years, most of the really big names (Durant, Beasley) never even considered Georgetown. Monroe was a great recruit. Jeff Green and Hibbert were deadset on going to Georgetown from the time they were babies. JTIII does OK but he could do a lot more. He gets by a lot on brand name both as a recruiter and as a coach. He’s good at both but gets a pass, too, if that makes sense
August 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
And Calipari and Tarkanian are the “Outlaw” coaches. I imagine there is a closet full of former Georgetown players whose past is pretty checkered. Where is Michael Graham et al…..
August 10th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
I imagine there is a closet full of former Georgetown players whose past is pretty checkered. Where is Michael Graham et al…..
Excellent detective work has led to this sound analysis. Kudos.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
i agree Page was maddening to watch, but to call him “shitty” is just silly. awesome amount of basketball talent in that kid back in the day.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
I imagine there is a closet full of former Georgetown players whose past is pretty checkered.
Doesn’t mean there were any rules broken in reruitment.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
reruitment.
god dammit, will people start fixing their typing please! it matters!
August 10th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
reruitment.
aw, scoob. Have a scoobie snack.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
roobie roo!
August 10th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
A teenage love. A teenage love. Don’t, don’t hurt me again. Don’t, don’t, dont hurt me again.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Have a scoobie snack.
Don’t mind if I do. Victor Page is my all time least favorite Hoya
August 10th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
god dammit, will people start fixing their typing please! it matters!
I;m a witrer, I only do this for fun. I get pade to write good, adn that;s when I write good. Here;s some of my top quatily writing (insert stupid link to stupid stuff written stupidly by a stupid).
/not try;ing to start any trouble
//I;m doing tihs for fun, guys
August 10th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
+ in;finity
August 10th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
i’m so roasted
August 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
i’m so roasted
that reproduction was quite painful to produce. I find it impossible to hit the semicolon when I’m looking for the apostrophe.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
So he became a pirate?
/goes back and reads posts and comments
August 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
Victor Page is my all time least favorite Hoya
Sam Jefferson
/fouling Billy Owens at half-court with less than 2 seconds left? Really???
August 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
I’ve made this argument before about JTIII and I stand by it. He isn’t a great recruiter. For all the talent that’s come out of DC in the last 10 years, most of the really big names (Durant, Beasley) never even considered Georgetown. Monroe was a great recruit. Jeff Green and Hibbert were deadset on going to Georgetown from the time they were babies. JTIII does OK but he could do a lot more. He gets by a lot on brand name both as a recruiter and as a coach. He’s good at both but gets a pass, too, if that makes sense
is this an explanation as to why hoyas haven;t been that relevant for awhile?
August 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
Nicely done, Dirt.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
That whole comment reminds me I need to check veryfakeBR’s Twitter feed for my daily laugh.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
GUYS! Sam responded! HE’S NOT A ROBOT! But I think he needs to take Dirt’s class in the learning annex for backhanded compliments and burns.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
So he became a pirate?
/goes back and reads posts and comments
cj covered it n comment 3. coulda swore this would be full of pirate jokes
August 10th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
Much like his son is now he was a hell of recruiter who is an overrated developer of talent.
agreed. i think JT3 may be the worst in-game coach/motivator across all NCAA sports, mens and womens.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
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Georgetown gets good talent and sometimes great talent year after year. Regardless of why Green and Hibbert wanted to come to Georgetown they ended up there. Monroe was a hell of a college big man who had great passing skills and a great recruit in general.
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I actually disagree that Georgetown has been irrelevant. I think they have been somewhat relevant but they continue to underachieve. I believe a lot of it is coaching and they will never be able to get rid of JTIII.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:58 PM
He’s the Lovie Smith of the NBA
/searches iTunes for Lovie’s game day smooth jazz playlist
August 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Georgetown gets good talent and sometimes great talent year after year.
Playing in an area that puts out great talent year after year. I didn’t say he’s horrible but “great” is over-stating things a wee bit
August 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Pitino can get his guys motivated, but only for about 15 seconds worth of action. It’s short-lived.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
NCAA, not NBA. Typing and eating at the same time is not working out for me.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Does this mean he actually reads the comments on his posts? Sorry I called you a blogger bot, Sam.
August 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
how do you square relevance aand achievement? different definitios i guess. relevance means contending for ncaa titles, at least going deep
/didn;t chekc to see their last 10 tourney finishes
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
Ill. saw some PGA picks in the round up. I’ll take Laird, for shits n giggles this week.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
i think JT3 may be the worst in-game coach/motivator across all NCAA sports, mens and womens
Ron Zook hates you
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
He said he loved SC’s comments so I’m guessing no.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
I don’t know enough about the entire college game to call him the worst but he definitely does a subpar job of in game coaching. JTIII gets a pass from the DC media because of who is dad is.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
Damn that Mugshot is like something from Faces Of Meth.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
Does this mean he actually reads the comments on his posts? Sorry I called you a blogger bot, Sam.
she meant to call you a lurker
August 10th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
agreed. i think JT3 may be the worst in-game coach/motivator across all NCAA sports, mens and womens.
hyperbole HOF?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
/didn;t chekc to see their last 10 tourney finishes
They’ve been to a final 4 and spent time in the top 10. You could go back and check if you want. They’re relevant but not dominant like they were in the 80s
August 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
Typing and eating at the same time is not working out for me.
i pride myself at being an excellent driver while eating.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
i pride myself at being an excellent driver while eating.
I’m really good at commenting on the freeway
August 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Lopez Tonight got cancelled? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
/maybe 4 people in the country
August 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
I am not commenting on him as a recruiter I am saying he gets good talent year after year and sometimes great college talent (Monroe, Hibbert,Green). You are arguing whether or not he should/could get better talent. I am saying that he gets good talent and a handful of great players and he does a subpar job with them.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
i once had a cup of soup while driving a stick shift car.
/was stuck in traffic
August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
OK, everybody I have some tragic news. You’re going to want to sit down.
Lopez Tonight is cancelled.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Vez, why dont you just skip ‘trying’ to put apostrophes in your conjuctions? No apostrophe is sooo much better than going semi colon happy. Can you just try it? For me?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
sucks. got my thunder stolen.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
/claps
August 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
I’ll take Laird
nice sleeper pick.
JTIII gets a pass from the DC media because of who is dad is.
and b/c everyone uses all their hatred and criticism on gary williams.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
They’re relevant but not dominant like they were in the 80s
so what i’m learning here is that’s because of talent drain and bad coaching, right?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
/flutters eyelashes
//smirks
///shows a little cleavage
That should help you cause
August 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Vez, why dont you just skip ‘trying’ to put apostrophes in your conjuctions? No apostrophe is sooo much better than going semi colon happy. Can you just try it? For me?
maybe this will work. I tried shaming him about it several months ago, because he claims to “hunt and peck” while typing.
I still think it’s a contrivance, honestly.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
for shits n giggles
Where does this phrase come from? Why are shits and giggles related in any way?
i pride myself at being an excellent driver while eating.
I’m excellent at driving whilst the lady-friend is busy doing what she doesn’t do best.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Most people have a your and you’re problem. I have a you and your problem. Seem to forget that “r” a little too often.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Can you just try it? For me?
You sound like my (former)Catholic mother. Guilt trip-city.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
And his job is a writer! Someone get this dude some Mavis Beacon.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Hibbert,Green). You are arguing whether or not he should/could get better talent.
Hibbert was not a good or even average player when he entered Gtown. A lot of credit has to go to him, but some needs to go to the coach as well. I do agree that the calm attitude that JTIII always displays doesn’t always serve him well. A more fiery attitude would have been useful at times.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
“I’d sooner drink a highball of kerosene than smoke meth. But it’s fascinating to me that some people disagree, and ingest a recipe that calls for hydrochloric acid.”
…
“HIV is sexually transmitted, but it moves even quicker via dirty needles. This should concern everyone. You, I and everyone we know are six degrees from Kevin Bacon, and I think it’s a fair assumption that he has had sex with a drug user. Frankly we’re all in a big planetary orgy here, and at least 3 million of the people at the party have shown up with HIV only because they didn’t have a clean needle.”
– Sam Eifling
August 10th, 2011 at 2:09 PM
To be fair @Ill there are a ton more UMD fans in the DC metro area than Georgetown fans. Washington Post is going to get more readers with a story about UMD basketball than they will with pretty much anything else that is not Redskins related.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Ha!
August 10th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
I am not commenting on him as a recruiter
You quoted me saying “he’s not a great recruiter.”
August 10th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Page has had a harrrrrrrrrd knock life.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
What was that, Miz?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Because fart sounds make people laugh?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
yarrrrr wonder what he was thinking.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
Because fart sounds make people laugh?
farts? yes. Shits? When does anyone laugh after or while taking a shit? If anything, it should be farts and giggles.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh so guys can pee and poop at the same time but they can’t laugh and poop at the same time. Learn something new every day.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
And his job is a writer!
he’s a “freelance” writer, just like i’m a “freelance” cocksman. Anybody who wants to pay me to fuck them, I’ll do a real good job. Otherwise, I’m porking the wife for free again. Or in his case, he’s writing the blog again.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
What I was thinking. Farts will never not be funny.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
It’s tough to keep a pot on a hot plate while turning a corner.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Its because shitting and giggling are both FUN. So they are used as a synonym for fun.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
I give Hibbert a ton of credit than. Will take your word for it that he worked his ass off and made himself into an excellent college player. I will give JTIII credit for helping Hibbert along as well. But I stand by my opinion that his teams tend to underachieve and that he is outcoached often.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
i laugh beforehand maniacally.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
those were Eifling quotes.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Seems like this is wasted basketball talent week here at TBL.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
The term “shits”, in this case, means unimportant or trivial. Not feces.
/mini-jmorris’d
August 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Farts are different than shits people. At least they were where I grew up.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh so guys can pee and poop at the same time but they can’t laugh and poop at the same time.
Hey, that’s just one guy. I, personally, get enough fiber in the diet so his comment doesn’t apply to me.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
i am too delicate for fart jokes or games. never understood it. maybe with the guys, but even then not enthusiastic. in mixed comoany or farting on your gf or wife’s leg? cmon now
it comes from your ass and it smelles like shit!
August 10th, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Its because shitting and giggling are both FUN. So they are used as a synonym for fun.
Why not for fucks and giggles then? Fucking is fun. More fun than shitting, I would argue. And it involves less cleanup.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
Fucking is fun. More fun than shitting, I would argue. And it involves less cleanup
agree on the first two sentences
on the third, maybe you;re not doing it right
August 10th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
maybe you;re not doing it right
sort of like how you go about typing then?
August 10th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
you’re doing both wrong then.
August 10th, 2011 at 2:22 PM
sort of like how you go about typing then?
good one!
August 10th, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Fucking is fun. More fun than shitting, I would argue
Blumkins are the best
August 10th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Page would probably like a Blumkin right now. He’s a lifetime loser that had a chance to turn it around at Georgetown, yet he still fucked up his chance. I don’t feel sorry for him one bit.
August 10th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Meh. I don’t know about “awesome amount of talent.” Basically, he was a kid who could score a ton in college, but I don’t think anything he did was ever going to translate to the NBA. Good player at Georgetown, but certainly not an awesome talent.
August 11th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
His graduation rate probably gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now if he had a graduation rate like Gary, he would have been under more scrutiny. Of course, Gary’s friends in the DC media as well as their relative lack of national relevance helped him escape that scrutiny
September 16th, 2011 at 11:16 PM
I am a very very close friend of Vic, David Ross yeah that’s me. Something that you squares and suburan raised yuppies will never now about or see is the challenges faced with young black inner inner city youths. Is that we are fatherless children Vic was also motherless he was raised by aunts and grand parents in a very slum like public hosing project. So he needed to carry a gun; especially since he was a local celebrity he was a target.. Yeah he made the mistake of being at that bar, but that’s how we handled our stress when we were kids see what you and the NBA fail to realize is that we are kids and he was an unguided one from a extremely ruff hood and city, not just the nations Capitol but the murder capital….. You come
From extreme proverty and make it to the NBA and for WHATEVER reason get kicked out you will spiral down the rat whole to….. But you spoon fed pussylatomus squares you would blow your brains out stop being quick to judged just because your arrested for something doesn’t mean you did it!!!!!
September 17th, 2011 at 12:05 AM
Woohoo, taking no responsibility for one’s actions! blame it on no fathers! WOE IS ME. Your ignorance is amusing. Nice to assume that nobody here is black. What does that say about you, other than being mentally deficient?
September 17th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I know you must be a fag where there is no guidance there is know order a/ hole
May 8th, 2013 at 5:53 PM
John Thompson over the years, despite his attempt to appear above the fray by providing a “hand up” to young hard scrabble basketballer’s from the wrong side of the railroad tracks, has given these kids “a chance in life to play Division I basketball in the furtherance of their dream to play NBA basketball. But, Thompson also benefits from their decision to attend Georgetown, from their talent’s specifically, in order to position his Georgetown Basketball program in the running for a National Championship each year, and it worked too. But Thompson definitely has his own ax to grind over racial matters and I am not at all saying that he hasn’t got a point , but I am saying that he has not been a bastion of inclusion and racial outreach himself. Thompson should look in the mirror.