I think Palmer gets a lot of credit for winning the division in Cincinnati in ’05, when they hadnt made the playoffs in 15 years. He was a Heisman winner and former #1 overall pick and his career trajectory up to that point suggested greatness. I agree that he “looked the part” up to that point in his career.

The last few years though he’s had plenty of critics, even when they won the division again in ’09.

McNabb and Palmer both used to be elite QBs in the NFL. Neither one is elite anymore.

McNabb also finished 2nd in MVP voting at least once, and was a huge media darling for a long time. He had national endorsements and got 3 contracts from Philly, plus more cash from Washington.
There was a time when Palmer looked like the 3rd best QB in the league. One season, and then he got van Olhoffen’d, and that was that.
Literally, nobody talked about him like he was good anymore, or at least nobody smart. He could no longer throw outs.
Old Don always bounced footballs at people, but he did have a nice long run where there wasn’t scrutiny, there was accolade.

I know in this retrospective paradigm shift created by the Limbaugh comments that it’s felt McNabb wasn’t scrutinized as a QB, but in reality that just isn’t the case. He happened to make a play or two in between a career of bounced balls.

Palmer gets a pass because A) he played with the Bengals, a shitty organization B) his prime is viewed to be cut down because of that horrible knee injury and C) thanks to A and B never had the chance to choke (and literally) gag in a big playoff game in his prime like McNabb.

Don’t undersell how skilled he was before that knee injury. Mcnabb never had Palmer’s ceiling.

Palmer came into the league at the age of 25, so talking about him having some type of “high ceiling” is false. Palmer played every game the following season after the playoff game knee injury, so the idea that he was never the same afterwards is false (check the numbers). He had a couple of good years early in his career and is still able to live off of those years in the minds of many people when they consider him a top 10 QB. Maybe Palmer will reach that high ceiling by age 37 and improve his career to the point where he is good enough to “choke and gag” in big games.

McNabb also finished 2nd in MVP voting at least once, and was a huge media darling for a long time. He had national endorsements and got 3 contracts from Philly, plus more cash from Washington.
There was a time when Palmer looked like the 3rd best QB in the league. One season, and then he got van Olhoffen’d, and that was that.
Literally, nobody talked about him like he was good anymore, or at least nobody smart. He could no longer throw outs.
Old Don always bounced footballs at people, but he did have a nice long run where there wasn’t scrutiny, there was accolade.

Relying on a Texas Longhorn in the pros? Not smart.

/kicks Limas Sweed
//Limas Sweed is injured and will miss practice

///Sits next to Tony Hills on the sideline

Green, Shipley, Jerome Simpson. That is fire.

/nods at clown

Relying on a Texas Longhorn in the pros? Not smart.

/kicks Limas Sweed
//Limas Sweed is injured and will miss practice

/overrated

Carson Palmer is the Jeff Fisher of NFL QB’s…overrated. Donovan McNabb must look at Palmer’s career and wonder how it is that he has to hear more grief about his career than Palmer.

//Carson looks the part.

Palmer gets a pass because A) he played with the Bengals, a shitty organization B) his prime is viewed to be cut down because of that horrible knee injury and C) thanks to A and B never had the chance to choke (and literally) gag in a big playoff game in his prime like McNabb.

Don’t undersell how skilled he was before that knee injury. Mcnabb never had Palmer’s ceiling.

So did McNabb

McNabb’s made more $$$ on and off the field

It doesn’t change the point, but is that true for on the field? Didn’t Palmer have a $100+ million contract? I would have guessed Palmer made more playing football, at least if he had played out this contract.

I think this is more the difference between the two. McNabb’s made more $$$ on and off the field and I’d guess he’s probably gotten a lot more accolades, too.

Carson Palmer is the Jeff Fisher of NFL QB’s…overrated. Donovan McNabb must look at Palmer’s career and wonder how it is that he has to hear more grief about his career than Palmer.

//Carson looks the part.

I agree with all of this. Although Palmer’s career derailed after his knee injury against the Steelers. He’s also in Cincy, so no one cares about his career.

//Carson looks the part.

I don’t like the Bengals in the first place but this made me almost puke. I can’t imagine how bad that must have been to try to cheer for this team

Well back then you still had hope of how they would turn out. At least with Warrick and Smith.

Bengals fans down here (all ten of them) gave up.

A Thought About the Cincinnati Bengals: Historic Passing Offense Turnover

Or, if you move the colon

A Thought About the Cincinnati Bengals Historic Passing Offense: Turnovers

/more accurate