A Thought About the Cincinnati Bengals: Historic Passing Offense Turnover
Last year, the Cincinnati Bengals had Carson Palmer (97 career starts) at quarterback and Terrell Owens (15,934 career receiving yards) and Chad Ochocinco (10,783 receiving yards) as the starting wide receivers and two leading receivers. Palmer is in a showdown over demanding a trade and will not be back in Cincinnati, Ochocinco was traded to New England, and Owens will be with another team as well if he recovers from his knee injury. They will be replaced by some combination of rookie Andy Dalton and gritty journeyman Bruce Gradkowski, with the likely starters at wide receivers being top rookie pick A.J. Green and Andre Caldwell, who started 5 games at the end of last year and has 855 receiving yards and an un-DeSean-like 9.8 yards per catch in 3 seasons as a reserve with the Bengals.
This got me wondering, how often do teams completely turn over their quarterback and starting wide receiver combinations from one season to the next? And where does this move from three veterans with a lengthy history in the league, to potentially two rookies and one receiver with less than 1,000 career receiving yards rank?
As it turns out, if we just limit it to cases where a franchise has a new quarterback and two new wide receivers who have never been the main starters for that same franchise (so cases like an unproven Caldwell being promoted from within the organization and moving into the starting lineup count as a new starter), it has happened 41 times since 1978, so a little more than once per season.
Of course, most of those aren’t similar at all to what the Bengals are doing. Most times, it is a team swapping out veteran free agents. For example, the Cardinals in 1995 brought in Dave Krieg at quarterback, and acquired Rob Moore from the Jets in addition to starting rookie receiver Frank Sanders, replacing Jay Schroeder and the combo of Rickey Proehl and Randal Hill at receiver.
Cincinnati fans, in fact, have already witnessed on such complete turnover, but may repress memories of a decade ago (2000), when the team went with Akili Smith, rookie 4th overall pick Peter Warrick, and Craig Yeast, in place of Blake, Pickens, and Scott (Scott was out for the season and returned in 2001).
If we are looking at situations where a team had a new quarterback and new receivers without much experience, the Detroit Lions in 1989 probably take that prize. Not only did they add Barry Sanders, but Rodney Peete started as a rookie, and the team went to a 4 wide receiver base lineup with the run-n-shoot. None of the receivers had ever started for the Lions before–Richard Johnson and Robert Clark had cups of coffee with the Redskins and Saints, respectively, Walter Stanley had started parts of 3 seasons with Green Bay, and Jason Phillips was a rookie.
The 1993 Patriots started Drew Bledsoe and Vincent Brisby as rookies, and also had an inexperienced Michael Timpson. Arizona in 2003 had a rookie receiving group in Anquan Boldin and Bryant Johnson, though they also brought in Jeff Blake to compete with Josh McCown. In 2002, Joey Harrington started as a rookie, and the Lions brought in two guys that were career 3rd receivers to that point, Az Zahir Hakim and Bill Schroeder, as the new starters at receiver.
At the other end of the spectrum, a few teams have lost multiple star veterans at the same time. The 2004 Raiders went from Rich Gannon, Jerry Rice and Tim Brown, to acquiring Kerry Collins, promoting 3rd receiver Jerry Porter, and also starting Doug Gabriel. The 1978 Redskins turned over the QB/WR combo, forcing Joe Theismann on the world and replacing Billy Kilmer and Hall of Famer Charlie Taylor. The 1988 Chargers went from Fouts, Wes Chandler, Lionel James, plus some guy named Kellen Winslow, to bringing in Mark Malone and drafting Anthony Miller. The 1992 Browns replaced Bernie Kosar, Webster Slaughter, and Reggie Langhorne with Mike Tomczak and Michael (he-he) Jackson. The 2004 49ers went from Garcia and Owens (plus Tai Streets) to Tim Rattay, Brandon Lloyd, and Cedrick Wilson.
Most of those teams above, though, made trades or brought in some free agents with a history of playing in the league to offset the loss or retirement of those players. I understand that Palmer, Owens and Ochocinco were not playing at a level equal to their reputations. Still, the Bengals’ move from that QB/WR combo to one that will have virtually no experience in the league is almost unprecedented, at least in the modern era.
[photo via Getty, all data regarding franchise starting lineups via pro-football-reference.com]

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August 10th, 2011 at 5:32 PM
They’re still going to be shitty.
August 10th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Nice write up on the BengaLOLs
/Doubles down on Cin UNDER bet
August 10th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
when the team went with Akili Smith, rookie 4th overall pick Peter Warrick, and Craig Yeast
I don’t like the Bengals in the first place but this made me almost puke. I can’t imagine how bad that must have been to try to cheer for this team
August 10th, 2011 at 5:39 PM
Caldwell sucks.
Green, Shipley, Jerome Simpson. That is fire.
/nods at clown
August 10th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
We’re running our team just fine! STAY THE FUCK OUT OF BENGALS BUSINESS!
/Mike Brown
//apparently me as well
August 10th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
GINGER ALERT!!!
August 10th, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Holy shit Phillies
August 10th, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Aren’t you glad I talked you into MLB.tv instead of Extra Innings this year?
August 10th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
The last time I checked that score it was 6-0 Dodgers. Good lord did that go all to hell for them
August 10th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
I’m actually at home SC, and the Phils are blacked out for me on MLB.tv but yeah. It’s pointless to get EI on comcast w/out it being in HD
August 10th, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Or, if you move the colon
/more accurate
August 10th, 2011 at 6:19 PM
The Cincinatti Bengals sure do move the proverbial colon, don’t they?
August 10th, 2011 at 6:22 PM
Well back then you still had hope of how they would turn out. At least with Warrick and Smith.
Bengals fans down here (all ten of them) gave up.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:22 PM
Carson Palmer is the Jeff Fisher of NFL QB’s…overrated. Donovan McNabb must look at Palmer’s career and wonder how it is that he has to hear more grief about his career than Palmer.
//Carson looks the part.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:24 PM
I find it hard to believe that anybody who ever saw Akili Smith in an NFL game still had hope for him after his first couple of darts into the turf
August 10th, 2011 at 6:25 PM
I agree with all of this. Although Palmer’s career derailed after his knee injury against the Steelers. He’s also in Cincy, so no one cares about his career.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:27 PM
He’s also in Cincy, so no one cares about his career.
I think this is more the difference between the two. McNabb’s made more $$$ on and off the field and I’d guess he’s probably gotten a lot more accolades, too.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:30 PM
He’s gotten more accolades and more scrutiny…because Cincy is terrible and no one cares about the Bengals.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:37 PM
It doesn’t change the point, but is that true for on the field? Didn’t Palmer have a $100+ million contract? I would have guessed Palmer made more playing football, at least if he had played out this contract.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:42 PM
Didn’t Palmer have a $100+ million contract?
So did McNabb
August 10th, 2011 at 6:46 PM
Palmer gets a pass because A) he played with the Bengals, a shitty organization B) his prime is viewed to be cut down because of that horrible knee injury and C) thanks to A and B never had the chance to choke (and literally) gag in a big playoff game in his prime like McNabb.
Don’t undersell how skilled he was before that knee injury. Mcnabb never had Palmer’s ceiling.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:46 PM
But McNabb has 4 extra years in the league so I’m going out on a limb and saying he’s made more.
August 10th, 2011 at 6:46 PM
McNabb also had endorsements as well.
/overrated
August 10th, 2011 at 7:19 PM
Relying on a Texas Longhorn in the pros? Not smart.
/kicks Limas Sweed
//Limas Sweed is injured and will miss practice
August 10th, 2011 at 7:29 PM
///Sits next to Tony Hills on the sideline
August 10th, 2011 at 7:35 PM
But McNabb has 4 extra years in the league so I’m going out on a limb and saying he’s made more.
McNabb also finished 2nd in MVP voting at least once, and was a huge media darling for a long time. He had national endorsements and got 3 contracts from Philly, plus more cash from Washington.
There was a time when Palmer looked like the 3rd best QB in the league. One season, and then he got van Olhoffen’d, and that was that.
Literally, nobody talked about him like he was good anymore, or at least nobody smart. He could no longer throw outs.
Old Don always bounced footballs at people, but he did have a nice long run where there wasn’t scrutiny, there was accolade.
August 11th, 2011 at 8:42 AM
Palmer came into the league at the age of 25, so talking about him having some type of “high ceiling” is false. Palmer played every game the following season after the playoff game knee injury, so the idea that he was never the same afterwards is false (check the numbers). He had a couple of good years early in his career and is still able to live off of those years in the minds of many people when they consider him a top 10 QB. Maybe Palmer will reach that high ceiling by age 37 and improve his career to the point where he is good enough to “choke and gag” in big games.
August 11th, 2011 at 8:45 AM
I know in this retrospective paradigm shift created by the Limbaugh comments that it’s felt McNabb wasn’t scrutinized as a QB, but in reality that just isn’t the case. He happened to make a play or two in between a career of bounced balls.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Bengals suck ass. Always have under Mike Brown. Always will as long as he’s in charge.
McNabb and Palmer both used to be elite QBs in the NFL. Neither one is elite anymore.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Who still considers Carson Palmer a top 10 QB?
I think Palmer gets a lot of credit for winning the division in Cincinnati in ’05, when they hadnt made the playoffs in 15 years. He was a Heisman winner and former #1 overall pick and his career trajectory up to that point suggested greatness. I agree that he “looked the part” up to that point in his career.
The last few years though he’s had plenty of critics, even when they won the division again in ’09.