<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: ESPN Unveils its New Total Quarterback Rating (QBR)</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 04:42:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: vajayjay redick</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391406</link> <dc:creator>vajayjay redick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391406</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We can count certain things. Touchdowns. Yards per completion. Sacks. Hurries (those are more problematic). Completion percentage. When you start assigning values to interpret that data, as part of a larger formula, it always strikes me as so contrived as to be next to worthless.&lt;/blockquote&gt;ANY/A is a perfectly good stat that already exists, and it&#039;s easier to calculate than the existing passer rating (though i&#039;m not sure about the weights).  It&#039;s not on a 0-100 scale though so i guess ESPN can&#039;t market it.  I get what they are trying to do, but there are too many flaws to overtake the established metric that&#039;s been quoted for 40 years.  They will beat us over the head with it this year that&#039;s for sure.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We can count certain things. Touchdowns. Yards per completion. Sacks. Hurries (those are more problematic). Completion percentage. When you start assigning values to interpret that data, as part of a larger formula, it always strikes me as so contrived as to be next to worthless.</p></blockquote><p>ANY/A is a perfectly good stat that already exists, and it&#8217;s easier to calculate than the existing passer rating (though i&#8217;m not sure about the weights).  It&#8217;s not on a 0-100 scale though so i guess ESPN can&#8217;t market it.  I get what they are trying to do, but there are too many flaws to overtake the established metric that&#8217;s been quoted for 40 years.  They will beat us over the head with it this year that&#8217;s for sure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Quietgoesthedon</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391369</link> <dc:creator>Quietgoesthedon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:20:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391369</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused. We can&#039;t check the results ourselves because the formula is too complex (or too dependent on random subjectivity) for Joe Sixpack to check, or because ESPN won&#039;t unveil the complete formula and how it&#039;s used?The problem with this formula, like every other formula that attempts to measure performance, is that the subjective elements, the &quot;clutchness,&quot; and the relativist nature of soft data all relies, in the end, on some guy assigning value to something based on how he feels about it. We can count certain things. Touchdowns. Yards per completion. Sacks. Hurries (those are more problematic). Completion percentage. When you start assigning values to interpret that data, as part of a larger formula, it always strikes me as so contrived as to be next to worthless.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. We can&#8217;t check the results ourselves because the formula is too complex (or too dependent on random subjectivity) for Joe Sixpack to check, or because ESPN won&#8217;t unveil the complete formula and how it&#8217;s used?</p><p>The problem with this formula, like every other formula that attempts to measure performance, is that the subjective elements, the &#8220;clutchness,&#8221; and the relativist nature of soft data all relies, in the end, on some guy assigning value to something based on how he feels about it. We can count certain things. Touchdowns. Yards per completion. Sacks. Hurries (those are more problematic). Completion percentage. When you start assigning values to interpret that data, as part of a larger formula, it always strikes me as so contrived as to be next to worthless.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: traderjack21</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391318</link> <dc:creator>traderjack21</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391318</guid> <description><![CDATA[So is this TQR as highly irrelevant and meaningless as the real QB Rating?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is this TQR as highly irrelevant and meaningless as the real QB Rating?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sleepycarl</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391315</link> <dc:creator>sleepycarl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:23:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391315</guid> <description><![CDATA[&quot;ESPN Unveils &lt;em&gt;its&lt;/em&gt;...&quot;*Sincerely, That guy]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ESPN Unveils <em>its</em>&#8230;&#8221;*</p><p>Sincerely,<br /> That guy</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: squawkbox</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391313</link> <dc:creator>squawkbox</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:03:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391313</guid> <description><![CDATA[The &quot;clutchness&quot; factor also assumes that success in the 4th quarter is somehow better than success in the 1st quarter. So: two quarterbacks have essentially the same performance in a game, away qb does his work through the first 3 qtrs and wins home qb does most of his work in the 4th qtr  and loses by a fgDoes the home qb get clutch points to put his performance past the away qb? I call bs on this - consistency and putting away a team early is more important than coming back.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;clutchness&#8221; factor also assumes that success in the 4th quarter is somehow better than success in the 1st quarter. So:<br /> two quarterbacks have essentially the same performance in a game,<br /> away qb does his work through the first 3 qtrs and wins<br /> home qb does most of his work in the 4th qtr  and loses by a fg</p><p>Does the home qb get clutch points to put his performance past the away qb? I call bs on this &#8211; consistency and putting away a team early is more important than coming back.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tickkid</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391312</link> <dc:creator>Tickkid</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:07:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391312</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It lost me when it had Matty checkdown rated #3 QB. That’s about 6-8 spots too high for him. Also, what the hell is “clutchness factor”? Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win? What if his WR “Stevie Johnsons” the game winning TD pass? Does he still get credit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;They act as if they will facter that stuff in when they do it - but as Lisk so valliantly stated - if the QB throws to Megatron and the dude flies through time and space to catch a TD and tap two feet in in the end zone, how much of that is QB and how much isn&#039;t.  And if a QB spots that Reggie Bush is going to have a clear path to the end zone if he throws the out and Bush catches a 4 yard out and scores a 50 yards TD - how are you going factor QB vision in/out of the process.  The subjective parts make me nervous, especially if any of the people that review game film work/live near Cowherd or Bayless./yelledatthetopofmylung&#039;d]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It lost me when it had Matty checkdown rated #3 QB. That’s about 6-8 spots too high for him. Also, what the hell is “clutchness factor”? Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win? What if his WR “Stevie Johnsons” the game winning TD pass? Does he still get credit?</p></blockquote><p>They act as if they will facter that stuff in when they do it &#8211; but as Lisk so valliantly stated &#8211; if the QB throws to Megatron and the dude flies through time and space to catch a TD and tap two feet in in the end zone, how much of that is QB and how much isn&#8217;t.  And if a QB spots that Reggie Bush is going to have a clear path to the end zone if he throws the out and Bush catches a 4 yard out and scores a 50 yards TD &#8211; how are you going factor QB vision in/out of the process.  The subjective parts make me nervous, especially if any of the people that review game film work/live near Cowherd or Bayless.</p><p>/yelledatthetopofmylung&#8217;d</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mantis Toboggan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391311</link> <dc:creator>Mantis Toboggan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:04:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391311</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win?&lt;/blockquote&gt;/flacco&#039;d]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win?</p></blockquote><p>/flacco&#8217;d</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BrawnyTom</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391310</link> <dc:creator>BrawnyTom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:50:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391310</guid> <description><![CDATA[It lost me when it had Matty checkdown rated #3 QB. That&#039;s about 6-8 spots too high for him. Also, what the hell is &quot;clutchness factor&quot;? Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win? What if his WR &quot;Stevie Johnsons&quot; the game winning TD pass? Does he still get credit?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It lost me when it had Matty checkdown rated #3 QB. That&#8217;s about 6-8 spots too high for him. Also, what the hell is &#8220;clutchness factor&#8221;? Does a Qb get credit for a 6 yard dump off on 3rd and 12 if the back break a few tackles and runs 40 yards to get within easy FG range for a win? What if his WR &#8220;Stevie Johnsons&#8221; the game winning TD pass? Does he still get credit?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wilhelmreems</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391308</link> <dc:creator>wilhelmreems</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:11:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391308</guid> <description><![CDATA[damn, the one time i&#039;m on for tblad no one is around.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, the one time i&#8217;m on for tblad no one is around.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wilhelmreems</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391307</link> <dc:creator>wilhelmreems</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391307</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Statistically, who is more important to their team: a pitcher or a QB?&lt;/blockquote&gt;QB, more likely to play in 100% of games rather than the pitcher who would go every 5 days (at least for 1 starting pitcher)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Statistically, who is more important to their team: a pitcher or a QB?</p></blockquote><p>QB, more likely to play in 100% of games rather than the pitcher who would go every 5 days (at least for 1 starting pitcher)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jim</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391306</link> <dc:creator>jim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:42:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391306</guid> <description><![CDATA[Statistically, who is more important to their team: a pitcher or a QB?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistically, who is more important to their team: a pitcher or a QB?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gaseous Clay</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391305</link> <dc:creator>Gaseous Clay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391305</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Ultimately, QBR will kick out a number on the scale of 0-100, with 50 being an average performance.&lt;/em&gt;Blasphemy.  80 is average, and 158.3 equals perfection.  It is known.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ultimately, QBR will kick out a number on the scale of 0-100, with 50 being an average performance.</em></p><p>Blasphemy.  80 is average, and 158.3 equals perfection.  It is known.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mantis Toboggan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391304</link> <dc:creator>Mantis Toboggan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:21:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391304</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Sounds promising. The rankings for qb’s from last year are pratty convoncing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Eli was ranked 7th last year. A failed system, he blows./tbl]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sounds promising. The rankings for qb’s from last year are pratty convoncing.</p></blockquote><p>Eli was ranked 7th last year. A failed system, he blows.</p><p>/tbl</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391303</link> <dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:20:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391303</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Too bad somehow ESPN will come up with a way to put Sanchez near the top of the list.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If I read on Twitter right, Kerry Collins&#039; 2010 was 3 spots better than Sanchize&#039;s.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Too bad somehow ESPN will come up with a way to put Sanchez near the top of the list.</p></blockquote><p>If I read on Twitter right, Kerry Collins&#8217; 2010 was 3 spots better than Sanchize&#8217;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rockstar</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391302</link> <dc:creator>Rockstar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:07:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391302</guid> <description><![CDATA[Read 3/4 of the post. A new record for a Lisk post. Good read, but no attention span has always been a crutch.The caption is classic. Too bad somehow ESPN will come up with a way to put Sanchez near the top of the list. Ratings baby!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read 3/4 of the post. A new record for a Lisk post. Good read, but no attention span has always been a crutch.</p><p>The caption is classic. Too bad somehow ESPN will come up with a way to put Sanchez near the top of the list. Ratings baby!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pigskin28</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391301</link> <dc:creator>pigskin28</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391301</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sounds promising. The rankings for qb&#039;s from last year are pratty convoncing.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds promising. The rankings for qb&#8217;s from last year are pratty convoncing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VladimirCrouton</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391300</link> <dc:creator>VladimirCrouton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:48:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391300</guid> <description><![CDATA[Jason Lisk should come up with his own rating system. I&#039;m sure it will be quite swell. Dude knows his shit. And would love to see how it compares to ESPN&#039;s throughout a season. Hell, we could all vote at the end of the season to see which is best.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Lisk should come up with his own rating system. I&#8217;m sure it will be quite swell. Dude knows his shit. And would love to see how it compares to ESPN&#8217;s throughout a season. Hell, we could all vote at the end of the season to see which is best.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BulletJoeBush</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391299</link> <dc:creator>BulletJoeBush</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:46:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391299</guid> <description><![CDATA[biz as usual tex]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biz as usual tex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mantis Toboggan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391298</link> <dc:creator>Mantis Toboggan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:46:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391298</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;delete this &lt;strong&gt;caption&lt;/strong&gt; and put it back up monday morning&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>delete this <strong>caption</strong> and put it back up monday morning</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TexansFan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/05/espn-unveils-its-new-total-quarterback-rating-qbr/comment-page-1/#comment-1391297</link> <dc:creator>TexansFan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=112683#comment-1391297</guid> <description><![CDATA[delete this post and put it back up monday morning]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delete this post and put it back up monday morning</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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