Ranking the Big 12 Sports Programs From Most to Least Desirable
Now that the Longhorn Network has finally pissed off someone in the Big 12, and the league seems well on its way to being broken apart (again), where will that leave the other nine programs? I’d guess that seven of those teams – Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech – would be willing to deal with the Longhorn Network just to stay in the Big 12. That’s because they may not have another viable option.
1. Texas. Looking forward to the Longhorns as Independents. Just set up the 6-year home-and-home series with Notre Dame already.
2. Texas A&M - Had a rumored offer from the SEC last year and the Pac-10 was supposedly interested, too. The SEC makes most sense because of geography, but as we saw with TCU bolting for the Big East, geography isn’t that big a deal. The key point: the SEC would love to tape into that fertile Texas football market. I think the Aggies would see a serious boost in recruiting because it’s an easy sell to recruits that you get to play in the best conference in college football.
3. Oklahoma – Also had a rumored offer from the SEC last year. If you add A&M and Oklahoma to the SEC, that’s 14 teams … but OU’s longtime rival, Oklahoma State, would be left out. Could the Sooners play an SEC schedule plus add non-league games against the Cowboys and Longhorns? That’s a rough road to win a national title.
4. Missouri – Biggest plus for the Tigers? They’re just two hours outside of St. Louis, which is the 21st largest TV market. One could even make an argument that if Oklahoma demands that Oklahoma State come long, perhaps the SEC would just bypass the Oklahomas and take Missouri as its 14th team. And unlike Oklahoma, Missouri wouldn’t be a power in the SEC (well, at least not initially).
5. Oklahoma State – Falls into this weird gray area where the Cowboys (bowl games eight of the last nine years!) don’t have the history of Oklahoma or the location of Texas A&M/Missouri. Oklahoma State probably will just hope that the Sooners let little brother tag along wherever they go … because otherwise, it’s tough to tell who might be interested in the Cowboys.
6. Kansas - This discussion is all about football, but the Jayhawks’ best chance of getting into a real conference is selling hoops. With TCU going to the Big East and giving the conference 17 teams, the Jayhawks could go that route as well, and push the idea of a 2-division Big East basketball super conference. If that fails … yikes.
7-10. Baylor, Iowa State, Texas Tech, and Kansas State. Up shit’s creek sans paddle. Let’s assume (for the sake of argument) the conference blows up and A&M and Missouri land in the SEC, the two Oklahomas are snapped up by the Big Ten, and Kansas ends up in the Big East. With these four left … perhaps Conference USA adds Texas Tech and Baylor (the conference already has Tulsa, UTEP and Houston). I suppose Kansas State and Iowa State could end up in the WAC or Mountain West. Iowa is mountainous, right?

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July 22nd, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Huh, so the Big 12 really is the new horse corpse
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:02 PM
so the Big 12 has replaced the Pirates, huh?
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:03 PM
This Longhorn Network topic has officially duckworthed itself
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:04 PM
for texas AM? it’s 6 hours to baton rouge, almost 9 hours to fayetteville and 10+ to the mississippi’s.
that’s not exactly geographically convenient.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:05 PM
from everything I have heard, the “invitations” that ATM and OU got from the SEC were pure bullshit come up with by those two schools.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:06 PM
I think you’d probably see the leftovers (minus Baylor and ISU) align with the top WAC and MWC teams. TCU, a team known for jumping conferences every few years, might also be interested if the Geography issue is worse than expected.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:07 PM
if/when it comes down to it, I don’t see OU letting a rivalry game or two getting in the way of things. it comes down to money when it’s all said and done, and if they have to end a relationship with one of the two schools, money talks, and they will move. Arkansas and Texas used to be huge rivals in the SWC and people still hate Texas around here and they haven’t played yearly for over 20 years.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Texas A&M is the one with military affiliations.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:09 PM
I think the biggest obstacle for Texas going independent would be finding a home for Texas other sports.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Winner
/rises from desk chair
//claps loudly
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Looking forward to the Longhorns as Independents
This isn’t happening. Just because those whiny fucks at aTm are stomping their feet means Texas is leaving.
This Longhorn Network topic has officially duckworthed itself
I called this yesterday but for some reason I was surprised it was going to get another post today even though nothing has changed. Gentlemen, I present you with a new horse to turn into glue… The Longhorn Network.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:10 PM
For example, look what happened to the Nebraska – Oklahoma rivaly…
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:11 PM
While I’d love to see A&M and OU in the SEC, I wonder if that’s good for them.
The Big XII makes sense for them as it keeps them close geographically (good for those other, non-money-making, sports). It also keeps the local rivalries going. More importantly for A&M and OU, they are big fish. They know that besides them and Texas there’s no one capable of mounting a consistent threat (Mizzou and Kansas being recent football threats). They could be big-bowl eligible for years.
Move to the SEC and they’re taking on a yearly murderers’ row of teams and a yearly trip to the Holiday Bowl.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Had a rumored offer from the SEC last year
aTm wanted to be in the SEC. The SEC said fuck no. Rumor’d of course.
aTm are stomping their feet means Texas is leaving.
doesn’t mean Texas is leaving.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:12 PM
actually, spencer, the SEC is the most geographically convenient for A&M. Okrahoma too.
see that link and this paragraph:
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Agree. Only true rumor I heard last year was an SEC invite to KU.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Stoops to the Longhorn Network.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Lisk would love this for basketball. Missouri football wasn’t doing much, anyways. They’d probably finish top 2 in the conference every year in hoops.
Nebraska, Iowa and the rest of the B1G West would not be too pleased with this development.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM
There has got to be a day when the conferences are renamed, right? Are we really going to be looking at Mountain West Conferences with teams from Iowa and 14-member Big Tens? Although after seeing what the Big Ten did when it named its divisions, I’m a little hesitant. Maybe let fans handle the naming next time? Couldn’t be worse.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 PM
miz…first off, the link doesn’t work. 2nd off, just because you say something it’s true? your closest opponent being 6 hours away does not make logistical sense in the fucking slightest.
/glares at big east
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 PM
I said it yesterday I believe, but I think the Big East basketball schools eventually go off on their own leaving the others to their own conference which is becoming less and less big and further west.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Nebraska, Iowa and the rest of the B1G West
Stop calling it the B1G West please. Michigan is in that division, and it’s east of WI, last time I checked.
/being anal today
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 PM
spencer – this doesn’t work for you?
http://spartyandfriends.com/2010/06/11/the-logistics-of-blowing-up-the-big-12/
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Texas vs. Texas A&M, the winner clinches a bid into the Justin Bieber Championship Game.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
from everything I have heard, the “invitations” that ATM and OU got from the SEC were pure bullshit come up with by those two schools.
Don’t tell TBL or aTm this. It doesn’t further the bullshit narrative that has evolved around Texas wanting to broadcast high school football games (which isn’t going to happen now.)
One other thing that should be noted… The Longhorn Network has no deals worked out with any cable companies.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
miz…no.
that article you wrote about internet commenters awhile back was straight crap, bro.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Trying to make a name for yourself?
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
spencer – that post was written based on the Big 12 breaking up completely and each team going to a new conference. the conference geographically closest to Okrahoma and A&M is the SEC.
them’s the facts, son.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
/high fives Spencer
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
DAMN, Barry.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Rank the conferences by relevance-
SEC
PAC ten
Big ten
Everyone else
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
spencer – this one should actually work. sorry about all the link drop fails.
http://www.thevictoryformation.com/?p=30750
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
outside of texas, would there really be that much demand? the b10 network worked because there are tons of alumni throughout the country, but i don’t think a michigan or osu or psu channel would have nearly enough interest to be put on a cable platform.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Stephen Montemayor Says:
Is he the former TBL intern that went rogue?
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Just let your SOOOOUUUUULLLLLL GLOOOOOOOOOO!
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
while that makes sense in a vaccuum, oklahoma, judging by their non-con schedule and penchant for running up the score, would probably be more at home in the sun belt conference.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Stand behind everything I wrote, but I deserve to be called out on my line about what I observed while interning here. It was a piss poor generalization and lacked specifics or anything to back it up. Regret not addressing it in the immediate aftermath. But, yeah, that line was straight crap, bro.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
PAC ten
Big ten
No.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
/bro hug montemayor
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:24 PM
/glances at map of SEC
//notices Arkansas closest opponent is Ole Piss, 6 hours away
///:(
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:24 PM
David Boren is just flat-out lying, and it’s embarrassing. The SEC did not offer A&M and Oklahoma, and are highly unlikely to ever offer them.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:25 PM
yea…a mountainous pile of boredom.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM
why is aTm above Oklahoma?
/doesn’t read the posts
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM
your closest opponent being 6 hours away does not make logistical sense in the fucking slightest.
/glares at big east
Marquette and South Florida being in the same conference is really funny.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Admitting you may have been out of line with a post?
I think we can see now why you’re an ex-TBL writer.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
they do already…they take turns tapping north texas’ fertile ass every year.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
that article you wrote about internet commenters awhile back was straight crap, bro.
Link?
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
False.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Conference of Champions has been doing it for years.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:28 PM
why is aTm above Oklahoma?
/doesn’t read the posts
Because there is this long-held belief that aTm will rise from the ashes and be a national power like they were in (checks calendar) like the 1950s or some shit.
/They have more money is the real reason.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Not every school has the budget of the University of Spoiled Children, can solicit Tiger Woods for a donation or masquerades as a school but is in fact a shoe company.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 PM
SEC or is this a cute name for the conference with USC and a bunch of scrubs in it?
on a similar note…i always find it funny when green bay refers to themselves as “titletown.” im pretty sure “suburban strip mall with a stadium attached to it” is more accurate.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Isn’t T. Boone Pickens U the 2nd most “valuable” university left in this conference besides Texas?
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 PM
outside of texas, would there really be that much demand?
It wouldn’t even be shown inside of Texas unless some redneck idiot rigged up a dish for Direct TV. I remember the Big 10 had some trouble convincing getting the BTN on cable (and oddly I have like four different BTN channels now.) The Longhorn Network will get on cable. I just feel all this, “Texas is going independent!!!” to be completely premature based on it being fucking July and nothing else is going on for bored bloggers.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 PM
yea, but the booners are only relevant in golf.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 PM
/nods at Jay V
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Link?
Here you go
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 PM
This, this, a million times this. As far as I’m concerned, the day Texas goes independent is about as likely to occur as me & Kate Upton’s wedding day.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 PM
And wrasslin’
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Oh, well this is just precious. And brilliantly scored. It came from young Samantha Micelli who I’m sure most of you already follow. But still, it’s worth the 2 minutes.
Sidenote: Does it look like she took a moneyshot in her IMDB profile photo? Me thinks it does.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Columbia, Manhattan, Boulder, and Lincoln aren’t short trips from the Houston area, either.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
@Stephen Montemayor
The only problem I had with your article was that you picked on TBL and Deadspin. I could think of a hundred different sites where the comment section is just a place for homophobes, racists, and sexist jokes are the mainstay.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Not saying I may have been out of line, I’m saying I was out of line with the section I referenced. And nice try, but Jason relieved me of my summer intern duties when the summer ended in 2009.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 PM
/e-mails Jay-V my home address
//awaits invitation
///buys tuxedo t-shirt
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
/whooooosh
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
You’re absolutely right. I can think of major metropolitan news sites that do the same. My aim wasn’t to pick on TBL or Deadspin. In fact, A.J. Daulerio contacted me shortly after he posted a link to the article saying he agreed with it 100 percent. But I do understand your point.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Not saying I may have been out of line, I’m saying I was out of line with the section I referenced. And nice try, but Jason relieved me of my summer intern duties when the summer ended in 2009.
I think you failed to detect some sarcasm in that comment…
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 PM
does not compute.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I think he was joking, dude.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Honestly I’m just waiting for Lisk’s football post today. We may see civil war…
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
on a similar note…i always find it funny when green bay refers to themselves as “titletown.” im pretty sure “suburban strip mall with a stadium attached to it”
harsh words coming from someone who lives in cleveland.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Fair enough.
/me sounding like a douchebag
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Man. It got all weird in here now. Ooooh! NFL POST! A LISK ONE!
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 PM
ha. +1
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 PM
A&M is closer to Baton Rouge than Fayetteville. And Fayeteville to Oxford isn’t exactly close either.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 PM
/Fixed
//Old School
///Pours one out for Hef
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 PM
We commenters got the joke, Rusty.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM
and sadly, Oxford is the closest SEC team. I’ve been on some pretty extensive road trips for football games.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Score: Quote of the week.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
this is why I kick myself for not going to Arkansas when Tennessee played there while I was still living in Memphis.
July 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I believe the Pac-12 calls themselves this due to UCLA and Stanford running up a bunch of titles in Sports-Nobody-Gives-Two-Shits-About.
July 22nd, 2011 at 1:12 PM
that 2006 game where College Gameday was here was awesome. cold as shit, but awesome.
31-14 Hogs.
July 22nd, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Lisk would love this for basketball. Missouri football wasn’t doing much, anyways. They’d probably finish top 2 in the conference every year in hoops.
Football has been better than basketball recently. We’ve been a top 30 type team, with an occasional jaunt to the top 10, over the last 7 years. I remember spanking Ole Miss in a home and home and going up against the SEC speed of Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl a few years ago.
Sure, they would be below Florida, LSU, Bama, Auburn, and Georgia/Tennessee when those programs are on their game, but I love how people act like Missouri would struggle. They would have been in a bowl game most years of the last decade playing in the SEC. They have been consistently better than Ole Miss, Miss St., Vandy, Kentucky, and just above Ark and SC in the last decade.
July 22nd, 2011 at 3:19 PM
who keeps spreading the rumor that A&M has loads of money? their athletic dept. had to take out a loan two years ago because their operation runs at a deficit.
also, why does A&M have any cachet? what do they have that is good/worthy/in demand?