Six Key Coordinator Changes for Teams Looking to Make the Playoffs in 2011
No precedent exists to compare what teams will be going through as they get ready for this season on what is potentially very short preparation time from free agent signing to rookie signing through camp and preseason. In 1982, the strike began after a regular offseason and preseason, and after two games were played, costing two months in the middle of the year. In 1987, the player strike also began after the season was underway, as 3 games were played with replacement. There was a lockout resolved before the season in 1970, but free agency wasn’t what it is today and was far less of a factor (and the lockout came right before camp), and there were 6 preseason games to 14 regular season games then.
My guess is that continuity will matter, but that it will also be overvalued among the public and bettors. Most playoff teams in the past were not coming from teams with new quarterbacks and coaches anyway, and that will probably be true in 2011, lockout or not. Most teams replacing those two positions were bad and need time. However, coordinator changes could be a key area to look in 2011 to see what teams can successfully navigate changes on short preparation time.
Twelve teams have both coordinators and head coach returning: Atlanta, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, New Orleans, New York Giants, New York Jets, Pittsburgh, and Washington (complete list of coordinators here). Seven of those teams made the playoffs last year. In contrast, before the 2010 season, 24 of the teams had the same coach and coordinator situation returning from the previous season.
Among the teams that either made the playoffs last year, or would be considered legitimate contenders for the playoffs, here are five key coordinator changes to watch.
1. Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator in Houston. Houston’s defense was dreadful, and whatever issues you may have with Wade the head coach, he has been an excellent defensive coordinator in this league. However, he will be switching an entire defensive philosophy to a 3/4 base defense, converting a top player like Mario Williams to a new position, trying to revamp a secondary, and integrate front seven high draft picks who may not be in camp right away with the shortened signing period. Houston will be better defensively (because they have to be, given how bad it was last year), but the question is how much better, and whether the delays in changing defenses with a new coordinator will prevent a huge turnaround.
2. Bill Muir (and Todd Haley) replacing Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator in Kansas City. Charlie Weis was quite successful in Kansas City last year, as the running game took off with Jamaal Charles, Matt Cassel improved dramatically from his first season in Kansas City, and Dwayne Bowe finally realized his potential. The playcalling was diverse and unpredictable. Now, with Weis’ sudden departure, the team promoted 68-year old offensive line coach Bill Muir, though the guess here is that Todd Haley will have a strong hand in the playcalling, if not take the duties outright. His first year, that didn’t work out as well with Cassel, so it will be interesting to see whether that was just the growing pains of a first year with new coach and quarterback, or if Cassel will regress without Weis.
3. Juan Castillo as defensive coordinator in Philadelphia. In a bold move, the Eagles elevated their offensive line coach, Juan Castillo, to the defensive coordinator position. It’s bold because teams rarely switch coaches on the sides of the ball after a certain period in the league, though Castillo has always wanted to coach defense. He’s an in-house move, and the defensive players will be familiar with him, but it’s still a new situation. The offense is playoff ready with Vick and his explosive receivers, and if Castillo can coax an improvement to a top 10 defense, the Eagles will be prime contenders in 2011.
4. Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator in Dallas. Dallas may have a new head coach, but Garrett will still retain his offensive coordinator role and so there should be continuity on that side of the ball, plus the return of Tony Romo. At least in Ryan’s case, he won’t be switching systems like Phillips in Houston. He will, however, be trying to upgrade the secondary on short notice in free agency and have to work the group into better play in a short period of time.
5. Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator in St. Louis. The Rams gave the look of a team about to contend in 2010, as they improved to 7 wins in Spagnuolo’s second season. However, offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur took the Cleveland head coaching job after working well with rookie Sam Bradford. In comes McDaniels after his disastrous stint as head coach in Denver. McDaniels will try to continue the progress while trying to integrate receivers for Bradford to work with. How quickly McDaniels and Bradford hit it off after little contact will be a big factor in whether St. Louis becomes the favorite in the West.
6. Greg Manusky as defensive coordinator in San Diego. I’ve already detailed how I think San Diego is a prime candidate to emerge in 2011, after a frustrating season last year. A big IF, though, is how Greg Manusky will do stepping in for the highly regarded Ron Rivera, who finally got a head coaching job with Carolina in the offseason. Manusky may inherit a team that loses a stopper at the back end of the secondary in safety Eric Weddle, depending on how free agency shakes out. It’ll be tough to be as dominant as the 2010 team, but the defense needs to be pretty good, and then let the offense do the rest.
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July 19th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Texans still aren’t making the playoffs.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
anyone else feel like houston might be better off trading mario williams for pieces that’ll better fit a 3-4? i can’t see mario being effective in space or trying to cover a TE.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Texans break through and make it this year. Absolutely no expectations, pressure is off, this is when they thrive.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
This has failure written all over it. Eagles would’ve been better off trying to get Rob Ryan and move to a 3-4.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I think I have heard most of these guys mentioned before, but the Castillo move in Philly has me wondering.
St. Louis was smart in taking Mcdaniels. I think his style will fit in well with this team.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Mario Williams in the 3-4? I don’t think it’ll work that well.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
he will be switching an entire defensive philosophy to a 3/4 base defense,
Maybe it’s just because it never works for me in Madden, but the 3/4 D doesn’t work well unless you draft players FOR this style. Mario is going to turn out like Hayensworth in Washington.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
agreed…a humbled mcdaniels is a good thing. guy does know how to move an offense down the field. rams need WR’s tho…and mcdaniels better not forget about steven jackson.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
I thought the lockout was supposed to be over by today?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Castillo was a linebacker as a college and Pro (USFL) player, so it’s not like he’s totally unfamiliar familiar with the defensive side of the ball.
That said, it was a good move by Big Red to get good veteran guys Jim Washburn and Johnnie Lynn (secondary) to help Castillo with the transition.
I am far more concerned with the Eagles personnel on the defensive side of the ball than I am with the defensive coaches. They have invested picks on defense (especially on the D-line, with Bunkley, Patterson, etc), but none of them have panned out as well as the fans would hope.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Mario will play the Merriman role. He will be rushing like 90% of the time. Any idea where they are going to play Cushing? because him and Mario as the rush LBs could pretty much move the defensive rank into the mid 20′s with smurfs play corner.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Great. With this stipulation, I would offer Al Saunders as the Raiders O-Coordinator.
/Raiders sweep the division again…go 12-4
//puts down dream bong
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
I wanted Rob Ryan to coach the Defense too.
That said, if this move doesn’t work out, I wonder if Reid gets fired/steps down as a result? I’ve always wondered what it would take for Lurie to fire Andy Reid. Maybe this move, if it fails, would be it.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
They are playing Williams as a LB and not an End? Surprising, but in what way is he not as good as Willie McGinist? 3-4/4-3 is just a name, have him put his hand down as an OLB in 3-4 and he’ll be fine.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
While he’s a much better player than Aaron Kampman having seen this attempted in the latter’s case I don’t have much faith in it working
July 19th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
KC is going to regress a lot offensively. Charlie Cheeseburger knew what he was doing with Cassel and the run game. He also knew that a lot of the “success” was against an extreme soft schedule. With SD playing better this year and Denver having a legit coaching staff, I am taking the under on KC’s win totals.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Tom basically hit on my point slightly before me… it’s all how you use them, not the name.
Lucky for them, smurfs are basically their entire secondary.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
if that’s the case, then it’s really not a 3-4. the whole point is, as you, a steelers fan is well aware of, to confuse the OL of where the blitz is coming from. harrison blitzed 150 fewer times than peppers/williams/jared allen and still had good sack numbers. him and woodley are so effective together due to the confusion of who’s coming…
but if williams is a sure bet to rush the passer, how is that any different than what he’s been doing?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
/bets the “under” on Tampa/NO/Atl this year. 11-1 against the NFC West last year, won’t happen vs the NFC East this year.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I’ve been hoping for Reid to get fired for a long time now. I don’t see why everyone here loves him. He can’t run an offense, he and Banner haven’t had a consistent homerun draft since 2002 and has no sense of time management. It’s time for Lurie to clean up shop and move in a different direction.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Lisk probably already has a draft saved titled “Told You So: Todd Haley isn’t Working as the Chiefs’ OC”
July 19th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
the fuck it is.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
The Ryan hire is the most significant. Dallas is loaded.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Stunt him inside? It does basically say that wherever Williams is, the blitz is from there, but maybe it gives a little flexibility a few plays per game, and lets them get away with 1 tackle, with a bit more speed on the line. If you don’t have two good tackles, just play the 3-4 base and put LBs hands down. Basically you have to get your best players on the field the most, and I hope that is what they are doing here.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
stop reminding me.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
3-4/4-3 is just a name
the fuck it is.
I think the point is that most schemes are hybrids these days. Few times run a pure 4-3, 3-4 anymore.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
I don’t think he will be rushing as much as Wade has said he will be. It seemed like a lot of it was the team just trying to reassure Williams that he would still get to do what he wanted on the worst defense in the league.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Bill Belichick disagrees. For most teams, it’s a name. I don’t think Houston has Pittsburgh’s talent, or Dick LeBeau, so it doesn’t matter so much anyway because they aren’t following the Steelers model.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
KC is going to regress a lot offensively. Charlie Cheeseburger knew what he was doing with Cassel and the run game. He also knew that a lot of the “success” was against an extreme soft schedule. With SD playing better this year and Denver having a legit coaching staff, I am taking the under on KC’s win totals.
Link?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
i love all this rob ryan love.
he did some damn good work with an understaffed browns unit, but the browns D didn’t actually start playing well until mangini told ryan to stop blitzing six on every fucking play and use a zone coverage once in awhile. it was maddening. ryan would keep the browns corners on an island 75% of the time in the first 3 weeks…
it took anquan bolding destroying eric wright’s life to change that.
dude can coach defense, no doubt, but he aint his brother.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Lisk,
I would love to see a comparison of teams that play a 3/4 D and how they rank against the 4/3 teams.
Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Jets, Patriots, and Chargers all play 3/4right?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Spence: Philips runs a diff variation of the 3-4 than Lebeau. Merriman/ (Shaun) Phillips were always had 1 rushing (usually Merriman). He also plays more of a man/cover 2.
Lebeau does more zone blitzs/ cover 3 looks. Its more about confusion.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
This. If you have two good tackles, you play a 4-3, if not, you play a 3-4 and adjust your ends/LBs to fit whatever play you have called. I’d be way more worried about everyone behind the front 5 (if Williams/Cushing really are OLBs).
July 19th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
3-4/4-3 is just a name
Seriously?
Watch a Steelers or Ravens game.
Then Watch a Vikings or Giants game.
Aside from the fact that Steelers and Ravens are great d’s, there is a huge difference in blitzes and coverage schemes.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Wade Phillips Texans 2012 head coach.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
belichick’s current defense with the more 4 man fronts is out of necessity, not design. if he didn’t whiff on all the OLB’s trotted thru there recently, he’d be playing his old style.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Really? Ware is a beast, and I have a man-crush on Ratliff, but the 9 other guys a meh to crappy. Plus there is a reason Rob Ryan has been bounced around the league. He gets more credit for his name than his effectiveness.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Dallas scares the shit out of me as an Eagles fan too. Ryan is going to coach that defense up really well, and the offense is still stacked.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Wade Phillips Texans 2012 head coach.
I don’t think you want that….
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Just quick point of clarification that Tampa Bay should be on this list since Raheem is the defensive coordinator for the team and he is obviously coming back and Greg Olsen is returning for his 3rd year.
Other then that, good write up as usual.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
If he had his brother’s front seven and Revis, I don’t think he’d have the same issues when it comes to man coverage.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Well, I think Reid has had some of his personnel juice within the organization syphoned off by Howie Roseman.
I don’t think fans are particularly enamored of Reid. I think Lurie and Banner really like Reid and they have made it obvious that they won’t fire him out of popular sentiment.
I dunno…..maybe what you might be reading as “fan love” of Reid is more like “fan acceptance” that he’s not going anywhere?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
No I dont
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
The Patriots play “count to seven before rushing the QB” defense. I think the hope is that if you count loudly enough, you confuse the offense.
Pats play a base 3-4, because they have a top 5 nose in Wilfork. They will often put a second tackle on the field, or even line up a tackle at an end spot. It really is only in name most times, going back to the days of McGinist as a “LB” who saw less space than the Challenge Shuttle.
/too soon?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Wade Phillips Texans 2012 head coach.
Don’t even joke about that.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
well aware. but merriman was at his best when he was flying down the backside of the line…williams isn’t that guy.
mario’s a really good player, and he could rush effectively with his hadn on or off the ground…but what about that one play per game where he’d be forced to cover an athletic TE? offenses would motion into that matchup every fucking time. that’s what the concern is.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
As a Vikings fan, I am so happy that Bevell is gone as the OC. Musgrave is going to be interesting.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
Belichick needs Romeo and Chuck back.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
mario’s a really good player, and he could rush effectively with his hadn on or off the ground…but what about that one play per game where he’d be forced to cover an athletic TE? offenses would motion into that matchup every fucking time. that’s what the concern is.
True, but how often is he going to be dropping into coverage? Hardly ever. No one would be idiotic enough to try to have Mario do anything but rush the vast majority of the time.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
kinda have to do that when you trade seymour and ty warren is hurt.
it’s not 2003 anymore, bro.
and 4-3/3-4 is irrelevant anyways seeing as teams are in nickel 50+% of the time.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Would be good if it was true, at all. He moves people around and changes it up all the time, and has since the day he showed up. Look at footage of the Rams Superbowl and tell me if he plays a 3-4 or 4-3… you can barely tell many plays. You call it a 3-4, I call it a 4-3 with the end standing up. Belichick has been about flexibility/versatility/changeable parts since day 1.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
more so needs a bit more maturity and experience in the defensive players at this point.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Trust me, dewar, it’s not the fans that I watch the games with. We all despise Reid. It’s some of the other TBL commenters who think Reid is hot shit. He’s a terrible coach and is best suited to be a OC or an OL coach in my opinion.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Aren’t you the one saying it’s relevant and I’m saying it doesn’t matter???
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
hardly ever?
if you’re a QB in the NFL and you see mario williams with seven in the box, you move your slot or TE over to his side and get him the fuck out of the play. even derek anderson would see this.
you can’t do that against a real 3-4 with two OLB’s who can cover AND rush.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Twelve teams have both coordinators and head coach returning: Atlanta, Buffalo, Chicago
Is their O-line personnel going to remain intact? If so, we’ll see our first death on the field when the Lions come to play. How’s their running game and receiver corps going to turn out?
Also, Vick mentioned on the Screamin’ A radio show last night that he would love to have Plaxico as another weapon. Eh, sure go for it. All I care is that he got us a Super Bowl.
As for the Giants, Osi’s pretty much taken a dump on the team and wants out. He flat out called Jerry Reese a liar. I’d love to keep Bradshaw just for the mere fact that Jacobs looked pretty shitty last year. Bradshaw’s indicated he’d like to stay, but who knows.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
I’d assume if he doesn’t rush, its because there is another blitz coming somewhere else and he’d be dropping into a zone of some sort. besisdes, the offense will need to keep the TE in to help block. otherwise, athelic will be running by Mario while his QB is getting roid raged by Cushing.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Trade you Mike Martz for Fat Andy.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
you’re saying there’s no difference between a 3-man front and a 4-man front, which is an idea only accurate in madden-land.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Ending a season without picking up starting corners on waivers would be nice. It seems like the Pats havent had the same four secondary starters 12 times in a year since the 90′s.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
It will be very interesting to see how that coaching staff works out. Lots of whining for Frazier to be hired. If it doesn’t work out, I wonder what those folks will say
July 19th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
I don’t see why everyone here loves him.
This is easy, I know the answer to this. Rich Kotite
July 19th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
hardly ever?
if you’re a QB in the NFL and you see mario williams with seven in the box, you move your slot or TE over to his side and get him the fuck out of the play. even derek anderson would see this.
you can’t do that against a real 3-4 with two OLB’s who can cover AND rush
Let’s not get crazy here….
July 19th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Thats not what I’m saying. I’m just saying for a 4-3 end to switch to OLB in a 3-4, depending on the plays called, there very often isn’t a difference.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
TWO THOUSAND AND ONE!!! dude…that’s a fucking decade ago and you’re still wrong because mcginnest was bashing faulk out of the backfield a lot as well instead of rushing the passer…you’d NEVER see a 4-3 end do that.
exactly…which is why he doesn’t run a 4-3.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Pittsburgh/Baltimore’s 3-4 are different than the others simply because they have Polamalu/Reed in the secondary. Teams cannot duplicate those defenses without it.
The Jets come close but are different because they have Revis locking up a WR, so they can send an extra rusher, which is good since they do not have a strong pass rusher.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Is this in reference to Chicago? Because if so, yes, it’s the same OL. Just the addition of the Bear Jew which should help at the right tackle spot. Depends what they do in FA (if there is FA) as well. Be nice if they added another tackle. They need to draft a center next year to replace Olin Kreutz.
Running game is still the same with Chester and Forte. Receiver names floated by local beat guys are Sidney Rice or a trade for Steve Smith.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
If it doesn’t work out, I wonder what those folks will say
At least Childress is gone?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Teams very often have hybrid forms of a 4-3 vs. 3-4, and except for how many tackles you have on the field, the rest is pretty fluid. I don’t see how that is a controversial statement Spencer… sometimes I think you just pick out what I say and try to create arguments.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
/shudders
Look, the Eagles had shit for coaches for most of the 90′s, however the most popular coaches are still Vermeil and Buddy Ryan. Fat Andy couldn’t tell me if 120 seconds or two minutes were the equal to one another.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
The lockout isn’t officially over yet and I hate all of your teams already.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
The Pats run a base 3-4 bcause of Wilfork. when he comes out, all bets are off since most of the players are equally meh at 3-4/4-3/nickel/dime/4-6.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Receiver names floated by local beat guys are Sidney Rice or a trade for Steve Smith.
I hope to god the Vikings somehow keep Rice.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
You just said he has recently. And when he has a fourth lineman, he often stands him up or drops him into coverage, much like McGinist did. I’m going to hope you are less of an argumentative asshole by football season Spence.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
None moreso than the Steelers.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Fat Andy couldn’t tell me if 120 seconds or two minutes were the equal to one another.
But he was a giant kid. That’s gotta be worth something
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
i think i see what you’re saying, but a lot of those moves are meant to confuse the offense. if you have 4 line men and 3 lb’s but one lineman stands up that’s still a 4-3, if you have 3 lineman and 4lb’s but one LB gets on the line that’s still a 3-4.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
As a tactical, game day coach, he is turrible, IMO. No arguments here.
I was kind of glad he seemed to get some of his personnel responsibilities taken away (or so it appears from the outside, anyway).
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Let’s see Fairley actually be successful in the NFL before we’re putting a hearse on the field at any point, too.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Yep. And no matter what Belichick does, still can’t rush the freakin passer. They may as well adopt the Jets 1-10 defense from the playoffs.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
The one thing that Andy has done pretty well is run a good locker room…except for the whole TO thing in 2005. Besides that, the players do respect him and he keeps them in line.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Yes, and that’s basically my point.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Not really. I can only think of the Pats who run this a lot. I think you are confusing a “strong look” (if you play Madden you know what i am talking about) where the OLB lines up on the line on the outside shoulder of the OT, giving it a 4-3 look, but the concepts/gap responsibilities are are still different.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Thats not what I’m saying. I’m just saying for a 4-3 end to switch to OLB in a 3-4, depending on the plays called, there very often isn’t a difference.
How many ends do you have that can switch up like this? The OLB may need to chase after a tight end, and if so, most DE –> OLB won’t be able to keep up.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
this isn’t the case…and your statement isn’t controversial in the slightest. it’s just plain incorrect.
gap integrity is essential in a 3-4 along the lines. you don’t want penetration from your tackle as that leaves a huge hole. in a 4-3, you want penetration thru the middle because the ends are spreading the line out.
aside from philly and NO, you don’t see 4-3 teams trying to confuse you with exotic blitzes and stunts. you can win with simplicity in a 4-3 (see tony dungy) but a simple 3-4 will get you raped (see all the teams that adopted it in the past 5 years).
it’s just foolish to say the only idfference is someone has a hand on the ground.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
what might be as important for San Diego is the job that Greg Manusky does in San Diego is what type of impact that Rich Bisaccia has on the special teams. Special teams was really the only thing that cost them so many games last year and if he has any impact there like he had in Tampa&there isn’t to big a drop off from Offense&defense of last year then the Chargers should contended for a #1-2 seed in the AFC
July 19th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
When is Bob Sanders wake?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
I’m a big Schwartz fan from watching him in TN. I’m really interested to see what he does with that defensive line this year.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
You can, if you have Tampa’s players. Or Indy’s offense forcing teams to play from behind all the time. I wouldn’t recommend it for everybody.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
I don’t see how that is a controversial statement Spencer… sometimes I think you just pick out what I say and try to create arguments.
Not to pile on dude, but your comments on this topic haven’t been consistent or correct.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
We can rebuild him. We have the technology. With him and Phildo both on the Bolts, I might start rooting for them when they’re not playing the Colts.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
fine…what about the bears defense under lovie? it’s simple.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Not to mention that the Tampa 2 is a little less novel now…
July 19th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Or Pat Angerer. Don’t forget Pat Angerer.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
ok, it came across differently.
BrawnyTom nailed it with the responsiblity/gap comment.
the reason why Belichik uses primarily a 3-4 is b/c it is more effective in covering the gaps for his defensive scheme. while there are players that will move around, stand up, get on the line, it’s not taking anything out of the basic 3-4 philosophy.
also, they were frequently in passing situations so they had to use nickel, combined with a pretty banged up secondary, was creative looking in set up and personel on the field.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
I’d prefer Spagnuolo 4-3 with his D-Line.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
Always thought he and Ed Hinkle would help make Iowa a dominant offense. Oh well…
July 19th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
It also got a shot in the arm with a fantastic defensive end last year. It was good the year they went to the Super Bowl because Peanut was still a good corner (needs to be a safety now) and Briggs/Urlacher were forces. You’re right though. It’s very simple. The Bears rely on teams beating themselves and forcing turnovers. They rarely have other teams in a 2nd or 3rd and long situation though.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
True. The key to the Dungy/Love 4-3 is having an elite player up front who can collapse the pocket, allowing them to play coverage. Indy’s had Freeney. The Bears had Tommie Harris playing the Warren Sapp role before he died. Now they have Peppers playing the Freeney role, only better against the run and worse as a rusher.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Uh, why? Hinkel was a white possession receiver. Dallas Clark and DJ Johnson were the playmakers on that team. Plus they had two backs that ran for over 1,000 yards each.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Dude is a huge upgrade against the run, but the less I see him flailing away at TE’s and backs out of the backfield this year, the better.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Search for the “Bob Sanders Iowa Mixtape” on youtube. Such violence. It’s gleeful.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
So disappointing. I thought he was going to be a force in the middle for a long time. Guy is a shell of a player now. Is he even on a roster?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
The scuttlebutt was that he had an agreement in principle with the Colts for when the lockout ended, but that was months ago, and that kind of agreement isn’t legal, anyhow. The Colts drafted a DT in the third round, though. But they drafted an overtackle, so they could still use Harris, if he can offer anything over replacement level.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
The Jets are right there.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
I like Rex Ryan, and I absolutely love watching Nick Mangold. It’s the Jets fans and New York tendency to jam the “hot” team down my throat, Sanchez included. And it gripes me when people try to say Jim Leonhard is some really great player, simply because he’s white.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
That was from when they were both at Erie Cath Prep… just going by hey two really good football players going to the same college, should make that team better. Once they got there, it was pretty obvious it wasn’t going to happen.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
I knew absolutely nothing about Iowa or their team, at the time.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Get this lockout over please now….
July 19th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Bsanders, any thoughts about Manning becoming an UFA with no ability to Franchise tag him?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
This is a beyond horrible comparison. When Haynesworth actually felt like playing last year, he played well. He played all year out of shape and with a horrible attitude…nothing about his shortcomings as a player was exposed by the 3-4, only his shortcomings as a human being.
I don’t expect Mario Williams to pull the same shenanigans.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
How awesome is it that we can now talk NFL and not feel like we’re stranded awaiting these greedy bastards to make a decision?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
Evil shenanigans.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
I don’t expect Mario Williams to pull the same shenanigans.
Yeah I know the person (Haynesworth) was a bad reference, I was more going after the fact that Mario is good for the 4-3 like Albert was in Tenn. Not meant to include the personal issues at all.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
That was the fattest and laziest play I’ve seen in my years of NFL fandom. What a pathetic piece of shit.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
He’s going to resign, probably for a backloaded deal around five years, $120-125 million. His cap hit if he were franchised would be $23 million this year. The Colts have about three years of viable contention left before they have to become a more running game-centric team. I fully expect them to let Addai walk and sign Quinton Mikell. At least, I hope they do.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
I definitely find myself defending Reid around here quite a bit. I think it’s pretty silly to consider him “terrible”. But I think we’re all pretty entrenched in our opinions at this point, so I’m happy to just accept we feel differently.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
why in the world would you think Iowa would have a dominant offense?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
So, Rupert Murdoch got attacked at his little hearing.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
The Eagles hate giving contracts to guys who’ve hit 30, but damn, this seems like it’s a questionable decision (I’m assuming he’s gone).
Please be healthy Nate Allen.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
He’d be absolutely perfect for the Colts’ scheme. They could slide Bethea up to strong safety and if they get even moderate injury luck improvement from their corners the secondary goes from a black hole to a strength. It’s either they sign Mikell or Mebane from Seattle. Gotta have one of the two. And hope to Christ Donald Brown spent all offseason watching film and working on his pass protection.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:45 PM
No doubt about it. What a waste. But thhere were actually 2 or 3 games where he played like he cared, and he played quite well in those games, which I why I think the idea that’s he ill-suited for the 3-4 is overblown.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Yep, excellent tackler, good decision maker who reads plays quickly.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
likes reid and agree that he’d be a stellar OC. he’s more than adequate at HC too…yall don’t know what it’s like being saddled with a romeo crennel or mike singletary.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
1-4 in NFC Chamionships and lack of any understanding of time management = terrible
/I blame Lurie and Banner more and more though
July 19th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
the real culprits emerge! both those guys could die a slow death in a ditch for all i care.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:53 PM
Exactly two losing seasons since he took over. Two!
There are maybe five teams in the league that have been consistently good for the past ten years and the Eagles are definitely apart of that list. Can’t attribute all of that success to Jim Johnson.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Look at it this way, if the Eagles had been in the AFC all that time they probably only make one, maybe two, conference title games.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
what a hack.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Agreed. Since the TO saga in 2005, Andy Reid has not been a very good coach, it’s truth. For outside observers who don’t follow the Eagles and have watched every game the past twelve years, you don’t see the dumb challenges, the complete lack of time management or the player development issues that we’ve had. Like I said before, good locker room coach, gets the team to play hard, but shouldn’t be considered an elite coach. I would take Belicheck, Rex, Payton, McCarthy or any of the young guys like Morris, Schwartz, Spags or the Harbaugh bros over Reid.