NCAA, Sternly (but really feebly) to Gene Chizik: We’re Not Done With You Yet!
Hey, remember how the NCAA and Auburn admitted that Cam Newton’s dad, Cecil, had offered his son’s services to Mississippi State for $180,000? Well to date, there’s zero punishment for Auburn. The Tigers are still the defending BCS Champs. But recently, when Auburn coach Gene Chizik confronted the NCAA’s vice president for enforcement at an SEC meeting, wondering why the NCAA couldn’t wrap up the investigation – the fact that it remained opened was probably being used by rival coaches on the recruiting front – this happened, according to Pete Thamel of the Times:
“You’ll know when we’re finished,” Roe Lach told Chizik, according to several coaches who were at the meeting. “And we’re not finished.”
Oooooo! Burn!!!!
You know what this smells like? One of those situations where a district attorney (the NCAA) is desperate to find anything to nail an obvious rule-breaker (Auburn/Newton). So far, his inept staff has turned up zero on the evidence front (everything so far is circumstantial) and public pressure (other programs, college football fans) is mounting to do something. I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA attempts to pull some obscure rule out of its ass that everyone will laugh at.
Last fall I was convinced the NCAA would nail Auburn. Use your brain – if the kid’s dad offered him to a school for $180k, why would he go somewhere else for free? Fast-forward seven months and it is clear: the pathetic NCAA, which always goes hard at small schools but fails to nail the big boys, has lost again. At worst, Auburn will get slapped on the wrist with a jaywalking ticket. [NYT]

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July 14th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Hey they don’t make the rules, they just think them up and write them down.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
/grumbles
July 14th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Spot on. I think the NCAA probably (and rightfully) suspects AUB is dirty, but the AUB boosters aren’t stupid and know how to cheat. Were it not for a taped conversation back in the late 80s/early 90s AUB wouldn’t have been pinched then, either. Auburn getting off makes Oregon and Ohio State look that much dumber.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Roe Lach is a woman. Just thought you should know what someone’s gender is while calling other people inept.
Other big difference in your sparkling analogy is that a district attorney and his (inept) staff has subpoena power, the NCAA does not.
So you consider USC, North Carolin, and Ohio State small schools?
Seriously duffy and your attacks on the NCAA are the thing that is pathetic.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Your love for Cam Newton is only trumped by your love for the basketball.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
USC thinks this is total bullshit, and Ohio State may feel likewise in a few months.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
huh? me thinks that USC, OSU and Tennessee beg to differ. nice try though.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
The worst thing about this entire situation isn’t that AUB will probably get off. The worst thing about this is that Auburn fans honestly think Cam is clean and didn’t know his dad was selling him. It’s fucking hilarious.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
yawn
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Also, Iowa isn’t exactly one of the big boys and the NCAA didn’t go hard at us for having a drug dealer for a wide receiver.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Oh, for the Northwestern/Big 10 fans. Enjoy.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
you would have made a great addition to the Casey Anthony prosecution team.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
I lift things up and put them down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAXo3Wr_nYU
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Cleet – guess that was unclear. ‘his’ wasn’t in reference to the woman. It was in regard to the DA
July 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
there is also the whole FBI investigation which (I don’t believe) has concluded, which will likely have a bearing on the case as well.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Cleet – the NCAA didn’t nail USC/Ohio State.
Yahoo Sports did.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Not letting facts get in the way of a bullshit argument is the one thing TBL has learned from Duffy regarding college football posts.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I think they usually leave stuff like that up to the individual school. Arkansas had a guy about 10 years ago that got busted with a backpack full of weed and a gun and I don’t remember the NCAA getting involved.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Yes, it was unclear, as was the rest of this post.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
/chuckles
July 14th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Who knows what will happen there. A ton of rumors and such have come out, but until the investigation is unsealed we won’t know if any of the rumors are true or not.
The NCAA doesn’t have the staff to go after schools without getting word via an article or something like that. That’s why Yahoo! is desperately needed since ESPN fucking blows as far as investigative reporting goes.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
glad Ben finally got out of jail (or his parents ungrounded him and he can use the computer again). I’ve missed his consistently negative & clueless comments for months. And now, he’s sending me sweet nothings via twitter.
love that guy.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
You said they come down hard on small schools and not on the big ones, which means you are taking about punishment. Yahoo uncovered the wrongdoings, but the NCAA is just as bad as unearthing violations at small school as it is the big ones. And they’ve acknowledged this. It seems you are having some semantics fail at the moment.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
florida, penn state, michigan state and auburn have all had SERIOUS issues with numerous players getting into legal trouble and the ncaa did nothing.
July 14th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
cleet – wrong again. they can’t come down on the big schools without yahoo’s help. oh, and guess who exposed UNC?
NCAA might as well hire Charles Robinson.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
I think we can all agree that Auburn needs to blown off of the map.
/still bitter
//Gene Chizik has to be the worst coach to ever win a title
July 14th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
The NCAA doesn’t have any rules on players getting into legal trouble. The conferences and individual schools set those punishments.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
The NCAA doesn’t have the staff to investigate teams. You realize that, right? It’s simply not possible. They have around 400 people and they have, what, 400 schools? Knocking the NCAA for not doing the initial legwork seems silly to me.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
coker.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Clemens case was declared a mistrial by the way.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Oh, for the Northwestern/Big 10 fans. Enjoy.
you have no shame dawg
/can i interest you in a link to a story i did from a long time ago?
July 14th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Oooo…this is a good debate. I’d probably have to go with Coker as well. Chizik is now the 2nd-worst.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
I don’t really mind Auburn, mostly because I know some people from down there and always have had an enjoyable time while there, but the slobbing he gets from Auburn fans is ridiculous. I heard a guy on the radio talking about his new book that just came out and he barely mentions his asst. coaches in it, which I found quite humorous.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Hmmmm… Looks like Ga Tech might be in trouble.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
facebook
July 14th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
what about bo schembechler?
oh, that’s right…he didn’t win a championship. guess he lied when he said “those who stay will be champions.”
July 14th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
must not be one of the big boys.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
I come here for my college football knowledge. More the comments than the articles.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
NARRATIVE UNFITTER!!!
July 14th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Apparently a couple of players were given gifts. Rumor has it that they were given to them by agents or runners. As long as GT didn’t know I would think vacating wins would be all that happens along with some probation.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Yawn. This is the south, this isnt some amateur hour Oregon shit where the NCAA has evidence fall into their lap. The SEC knows how to pay discreetly, they wont find anything.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
well aware. considering how much shady shit goes on, you almost wonder if they even WANT a staff investigating …
/conspiracy theory
July 14th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Am I typing in Wingdings? I told you they wouldn’t have exposed those violations without their help. But it’s not like the NCAA is running around uncovering shit on small schools with more accuracy.
Husker seems to get it. If you’re not going to actually respond to what I write this discussion is rather pointless (if it isn’t already).
Ed Reed should just be credited with head coaching that team.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
//Gene Chizik has to be the worst coach to ever win a title
coker.
was switzer a good coach? holtz? with so many assistants, what makes a good coach? how he handles everything while they concentrate on one thing?
i mean, my pure definition of coaching is teaching something, gathering good folks around you, instilling a system/standards of excellence, and definitely making game decisions.
obviously it’s rare to find someone who does all well. throw in media pressures, recruiting responsibilities, alumni/booster relations….hard to find more than ‘this guys did these things well, but not these things’
July 14th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Definitely this.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
TJ:
The judge in the Roger Clemens perjury case just declared a mistrial.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
that many legal experts will cost a pretty penny. good thing the ncaa makes so much money off of the basketball tournament so they can afford all the extra help. then again, considering they let guys like calipari and calhoun off with NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL, they’re probably protecting their interests more in that arena instead.
/conspiracy theory’d your conspiracy theory
July 14th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
For the millionth time, the NCAA’s rules and operational bylaws are made and passed by the membership which consists of the schools and their presidents/ADs. Shit doesn’t happen at the NCAA unless it has been voted on first by their executive committee, legislative council, and finally the member schools themselves.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Awwwww, TBL, thank you! I appreciate being selected from the large contingent of commenters pointing out factually incorrect posts, inane opinions, and consistent pummeling of dead horses. I also appreciate the bevy of third-grade insults.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
All of this. Pre-paid debit cards that are untraceable and “donations” to newly formed non-profits.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Hmmmm… Looks like Ga Tech might be in trouble.
From the article:
The NCAA did say that if Tech commits another major infraction before Nov. 17, 2010, it will be subject to added penalties as a repeat violator
Death Penalty!!1!1111
July 14th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
He got more than just the suspension. They got some of their official visits taken away and lost a lot of their recruiting contact privliges. he also had to attend the NCAA Regional Rules Seminar in Tampa. I know he did because I saw him there.
/leaves thread
July 14th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
swoons.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
that got busted with a backpack full of weed and a gun and I don’t remember the NCAA getting involved.
if we go further with the cop/ncaa analogy, perhaps they confiscated the backpack, then made more rules
July 14th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Just an uninformed post. NCAA doesn’t work fast, thats what’s going on. Took like a year and a half for USC’s sanctions. OSU’s “sanctions” were as fast as they were because it was much more cut and dry, also they were self imposed. Don’t expect anything to come down on Auburn (or Oregon for that matter) for about a year.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
and that’s diddly shit. esp when you consider that he spit in the face of amateurism overtly while OSU’s getting thunderfucked because kids traded shit they personally owned for tattoos.
yes, im salty. yes, it’s a double standard. and yes, the NCAA is a fucking ball-less, piece of shit organization.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Stop trying to bring everyone else down to your level.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
eh.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Again, it’s not the fact they traded the shit, it’s the fact Tressel found out about it, did practically nothing, and then lied to the NCAA.
If they would have reported it straight up some players would have been suspended and that’s likely it.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
apparently inept prosecution isn’t just limited to Florida…
July 14th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Stop trying to bring everyone else down to your level.
Ouch. That was a little unnecessary.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
im more than aware of all this. doesn’t change my frustration with it tho.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
I read this differently then everyone else. I read this as “We got something, and the bow we ordered to wrap around it is coming soon.”
July 14th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
/Off topic’d
Oh Jawwjuh.
First you switch your license plates for the 4th time in about a decade, and then you add the pay a $1, and you can put a “In God We Trust” sticker on it. Nothing like monetizing religion. Or the government wasting money on designing/producing a new license plate. The plate we have right now is fine. These three options are hideous.
//I know, nobody cares
July 14th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
yea, that’s how i read it too.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Sorry. I’m just fired up from this outstanding Italian sub I’m having for lunch.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
The judge in the Roger Clemens perjury case just declared a mistrial.
…after getting four signed balls and a photo with Clemens holding his mallet with a spplit-finger grip.
/This Kourt is adjourned!
July 14th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
is it 5:00 yet? I’m ready to golf.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Can we get some pictures of the smokeshow that was Jenn Brown last night? This argument is going no where and I feel robbed by the previous post seeing as how it was clearly incomplete.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Thank you, was thinking of what I should have for lunch.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Enough – With – thepeaches!
/doesn’t care
//KY tried to sell a license plate with the confederate flag
July 14th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Can we get some pictures of the smokeshow that was Jenn Brown last night? This argument is going no where and I feel robbed by the previous post seeing as how it was clearly incomplete.
She had a few on her twitter TL of her getting ready. Those were nice.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
I will dance into the midnight moon if this happens…but I took it as TBL did. They want to find something, but they have nothing at the moment.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
link, atl?
July 14th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
/Off topic’d
Oh Jawwjuh.
Too busy. Their still better than Texas’s new plates though: http://www.escapeest.com/images/austinist/090603_texas_license_plate_2009.jpg
July 14th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Looks like we have a consensus.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
woof.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Every time we have a thread like this, I hear this song.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Too busy. Their still better than Texas’s new plates though:
Exactly. The ones we have now are white simple. Clean. I don’t want to put something with lots of green and orange on the back of my car. Also, I’d like to see the shitstorm that would arise if someone sued for the right to put a “Praise be to Allah” sticker on their car. That would be fun.
Also… Texas’ new plates… barf.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
//KY tried to sell a license plate with the confederate flag
Texas is about to approve a Confederate flag themed specialty plate.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
you’re special.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I’ve always been a fan of Pennsylvania’s plates: http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Pennsylvania/pa2002.jpg
Clean, easy, good use of contrasting color.
Colorado is creative but not too over the top also: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1235627271574&ssbinary=true
July 14th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Yup. Watching that after golf is over today too.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Guys, cut the NCAA some slack. They’re still in the last post trying to find the real killer of the All Star Game ratings. Then, they can move on to this piddly infractions stuff.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
The NCAA has been at it since what, October? November? Or were they notified earlier in 2010 by “tipsters”? Heck, it might have been earlier, like LAST SUMMER. (I’d have to look it up.)
That’s about when the story broke. We’re in July, 2011. one year and all we’ve heard is tough talking – WE’RE NOT DONE WITH YOU YET!
they got nothing.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
ohio’s old ones were way better than the new ones.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I’ve always been a fan of Pennsylvania’s plates: http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Pennsylvania/pa2002.jpg
Clean, easy, good use of contrasting color.
Colorado is creative but not too over the top also:
I’ve always liked Colorodo’s. Honestly, I like Wisconsin’s and Georgia’s current one a lot (aside from the .gov reference on GA’s). They’re both simple and have a white background. Anything with a lot of color is just tacky, IMO.
/license plate nerd’d
July 14th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Arkansas has a plate for damn near everything it seems like.
This is the one I have.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
reggie bush and his smoking gun needed four years to find out what their punishment was. just saying.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
ATL, you ever notice how people in the south call them “tags”? I had never heard that until I moved to Arkansas. they were always “plates” to me.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Well, I read the quote with Jules Winnfield’s voice…so in my mind, Chizik’s fucked.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
I call the plate a plate. The tag is what I call the sticker that you get each year.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I preferred
these PA plates.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
ohio’s old ones were way better than the new ones.
wow.. Ohio’s new plates are the second gayest plates I’ve ever seen. the first beeing Kentucky’s old one.
WI.
GA.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I call the plate a plate. The tag is what I call the sticker that you get each year.
This.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
If a case isn’t solved within 2 days it’s a lost cause. I’ve seen The First 48, you guys.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Mississippi has a lot of color in their plates, but I don’t feel like they are too over the top.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
/license plate nerd’d
/High five.
I also am fascinated by changes in airline livery on planes over the years.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
can’t believe it took them 30 years to find the BTK.
/TBL
July 14th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Mississippi has a lot of color in their plates, but I don’t feel like they are too over the top
Agree… for as terrible as that state is, they’ve always had a pretty good plate.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
That was when Yahoo was in its infancy. But maybe you’re right – in 4 yrs, Auburn will get busted.
Gene will probably be an NFL coach by then, just like Pete Carroll!
July 14th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Please let Gene coach in the NFL. He’d make Butch Davis look like Tom Landry.
/I hope its for a team in Ohio
July 14th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Comments 4 and 23 are great.
July 14th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Damn. Your facts are just wrong, TBL, at least in OSU’s case. Yahoo learned of Tressel’s indiscretions courtesy of a leak from the NCAA. OSU had ALREADY turned in the violations. Yahoo got the information to send it public, but the information was already there.
That’s the HUGE difference between OSU and USC. OSU didn’t stonewall the NCAA. USC did everything in its power to stop them from investigating.
July 14th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
we’re talking about different things. the one you’re talking about was nothing – it’s why OSU slapped JT on the wrist.
THIS
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-osuprobe030711
is what the most important story was. NCAA will nail OSU because of this.
July 14th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
But do you see why Yahoo didn’t have that info until March? OSU had just parsed through all of the Vest’s prior knowledge emails and submitted it to the NCAA, who then leaked it to Yahoo.