Oregon Scandal: What Happens to Chip Kelly?
Suspected street-agent Will Lyles felt jilted and flipped on Chip Kelly and Oregon. He presented his side, provided evidence to corroborate it and strongly suggested what most rational observers expected: he was paid, either proactively or retroactively, for his influence over top recruits who ended up at Oregon. Worryingly for the Ducks, he’s still talking. (Lache Seastrunk got a pair of Jordans. Corruption! Outrage! Amateurism! Ignore the $110,000 golf game!)
The Lyles stuff is damning, but remember he is a self-interested participant with a clear agenda. His narrative can’t be accepted as incontrovertible fact. There is still significant grey area and Chip Kelly’s future rests on two outstanding questions.
The NCAA must define Will Lyles under its bylaws. Does he qualify as a recruiting service? Does he qualify as a booster who was engaging in third-party recruiting? The situation looks awful but exactly how the NCAA classifies him is crucial and, at the present moment, nebulous.
We also don’t know what Chip Kelly told the NCAA. We know Kelly misled a media member. We know the school complied with an open-records request and released the bogus scouting reports Lyles sent them. What we don’t know is whether Kelly lied to the NCAA or tried to cover anything up. The consequences for that could be worse than for the initial crime.
Chip Kelly could be facing the same self-inflicted result as Jim Tressel, but the circumstances are different. Kelly faces some facts that (piled together and shaded a certain way) indicate he hasn’t been above board, at least in spirit. Tressel, in contrast, had an explicit paper trail linking him with a specific violation under the law’s letter. His situation was untenable. Kelly’s situation remains unclear, at least publicly.
Longterm, Kelly retaining his job does not appear promising. Oregon, unlike some schools who shall go unnamed, is expected to be an academic institution first, and a football program second. The standards for propriety and the perception of propriety are greater. It’s hard to see him emerging from this cleanly. Immediately, though, the investigation is ongoing, and the NCAA operates at a glacial pace. Oregon has assistants implicated with Kelly and would have to clean house, something impossible to do this late in the calendar. Without explicitly damning revelations, Chip Kelly, however awkwardly, should be coaching Oregon through 2011, while Mike Leach and Rich Rodriguez ready their resumes.
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July 5th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
And yet, when Jim Tressel still had gray area you were hoisting him up to the cross asking for a nail gun.
July 5th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
He’s a man named Chip in his 40′s. Hasn’t he suffered enough?
July 5th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
BANHAMMER for Chip!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Depends. What’s his body count?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I knew it.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
He’s an arrogant prick.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Copy, past, edit, find/replace names, post.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
And yet, when Jim Tressel still had gray area you were hoisting him up to the cross asking for a nail gun.
Duffy’s right, though. Tressel doesn’t have an alibi like saying “the guy is just a recruiting service” which sort of clears Chip Kelly of everything that’s enforceable. The fact that Lyles was working with other schools might help out the Ducks in the end. That and Phil Knight’s ability to persuade the NCAA investigators that there is nothing untoward going on in Eugene.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
I guess I should direct my anger towards the prosecution and the forensic staff of the police department that handled Kaylee’s death case, huh?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Could have at least done something with that caption. That pic is begging for it.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
It’s tough though, they found the body after what, 5 months? Its hard to do a thorough atopsy and get any forensics after that amount of time
July 5th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
I guess I should direct my anger towards the prosecution and the forensic staff of the police department that handled Kaylee’s death case, huh?
You didn’t really expect a bunch of highly paid government workers from Florida to handle their job in a professional matter? Did you?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
His headshot for an audition on the animated series “Life with Louie.”
July 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
His headshot for an audition on the animated series “Life with Louie.”
Not bad.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
You didn’t really expect a bunch of highly paid government workers
You lost me
July 5th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
So what’s the difference between tress covering up info about players breaking rules and chip kelley covering up his own shadiness/ rule breaking?
From the tbl article you linked
And yet you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt? Jarring
July 5th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Copy, past, edit, find/replace names, post.
So you’re saying Duffy is stealing from TBL’s Butch Davis/UNC posts?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
/reads tyduffy byline
//checks vegas over/under on paragraphs before tressel mentioned: 4
///takes under
////just barely loses, this time
July 5th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
How did I give him the benefit of the doubt? All I said was that we don’t know how it’s going to play out yet with the NCAA which is true.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
And yet you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt? Jarring
I think you’re intoning a personal forgiveness that isn’t there. All he’s saying is that for as much shit as it looks like Oregon has done there’s still a decent chance they don’t face any serious incrimination for it. Because of the possibly brilliant move of paying for this guy as a “scouting service” – which could move all the liability to Lyles and get Oregon off with just a little slap on the wrist
July 5th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
yeah but how do you bring up a witness that could so easily lose his credibility on the stand by the defense team?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Sounds like a pretty good workaround to me.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
What the fuck is taking this cock sucking jury so long to come out and make their statement?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
So I guess we’re getting Casey Anthony discussion in the comments on every post today? Oh please NFL come back, please.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
What the fuck is taking this cock sucking
Too busy getting up off their knees and wiping their lips with the back of their hands.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
The fucking jury won’t speak to the media. Those fucking cowards. Fuck them.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
The fucking jury won’t speak to the media. Those fucking cowards. Fuck them
I thought I heard they were being sequestered for 48 hours until sentencing…
July 5th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Hope he leaves 2008-2010 off of it.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Yeah this. The whore was not guilty, deal with it. Innocent until proven guilty my friends.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Are you fucking me? This is wrong. Oregon’s academics are a joke, tithe point where UWs AD called them that, and when forced to apologize for it, his apology was basically “I shouldn’t have said it, but my facts arent wrong.”
And there’s the fact that LMJ couldn’t get into pretty much any school other than Oregon because apparently he can’t add, yet at Oregon he’s an academic whiz.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Go fuck yourself, shit bag. The verdict happened a fucking hour ago. We’ll talk about it until it’s not news anymore.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
So I guess we’re getting Casey Anthony discussion in the comments on every post today?
To be fair, it started in a post about the NFL lockout. Who wants to talk about that?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
“oh my gosh, Casey Anthony is almost as evil as…..Michael Vick….he killed dogs!!!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Tony Gibson got a BCS job after coaching Michigan’s secondary and special teams. Think Rich Rod will do okay.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Is that in one of the links, Cassino? I didn’t read that about Oregon being academics first in the post but it’s hilarious
July 5th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
Scathing, I like it.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
Who wants to continuously talk about the death of a child, and the person that “supposedly” kill her? Yes, let’s continue to talk about death and despair! Woooooo!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Who wants to continuously talk about the death of a child, and the person that “supposedly” kill her? Yes, let’s continue to talk about death and despair! Woooooo!
Give me death and despair over the thought of no NFL season any day.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Go fuck yourself, shit bag. The verdict happened a fucking hour ago. We’ll talk about it until it’s not news anymore.
Yeah fuck you Phillymantis. How dare you imply that the jury who listened to testimony for 6 weeks might have been better placed to make a judgment than someone who has watched this only occasionally on Headline News while mastering microwave cookery in the kitchen.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Written by one Tyler Duffington
July 5th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
+12 jurors to you ms, hahaha
July 5th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
I just want to talk more about making sex to Casey Anthony…now that she’s free and without a kid she has become 10 times more desirable
July 5th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Too many hanging chads on the corpse.
/too soon?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
ohhhh…ohhhh….ahhhh…heheheh…
/pulls up chair
/cracks leftover lukewarm beer from cooler
July 5th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
I still haven’t understood what happened here. Did Lyles take money to convince recruits to go to Oregon over Texas? Did he take money from Oregon to give to the kids? Or what?
From what I’ve read, it sounds as if all Lyles did was point Oregon to specific players, drive Chip Kelly around town to see them and then produce some shitty reports. Maybe Oregon should be mad at getting fleeced for the reports. What else is there?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Oh, wow, I totally missed that. There it is right there in the final paragraph. You know that’s a preposterous notion, right Duffy? Because Oregon is a contender for worst academic institution in Division I
July 5th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Awesome, wish I could’ve been clever enough to respond like that. +1 Angie Harmon in her prime for you
July 5th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Oh, wow, I totally missed that. There it is right there in the final paragraph. You know that’s a preposterous notion, right Duffy? Because Oregon is a contender for worst academic institution in Division I
Really? Didn’t know that. Would have assumed it would have been one of the SEC schools.
/ducks
July 5th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
now that she’s free and without a kid she has become 10 times more desirable
Yes! That is a large component to my joke that I refrained from writing when the idea of her going clubbing came up
July 5th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Nope, perfectly acceptable
July 5th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
We should talk about the Tour de France……
July 5th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
You could raw dog that as well. No need to worry about pesky children coming between you and the club.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
hi five butters, i’ve wondered who i’d push out of the way to get to her or amanda knox
but seriously, there has been 400 cases more interesting or dramatic or freaky than this since the case started but oh no we have a cute little girl and, um, exactly what else?
this part of the media and america…fuck it. and nancy grace can suck kerosene and eat flaming briquets
July 5th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
ugh. I’d rather you describe the drowning of animals again.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
With Tressel it was a Scarlett and Grey area.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
What’s with all this restraint lately? You’re taking your lent abstinence to another level.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
You guys are all fucking disgusting
July 5th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
hi five butters, i’ve wondered who i’d push out of the way to get to her or amanda knox
No way did you just put Casey Anthony and Amanda Knox in the same ballpark. Amanda Knox is legitimately hot.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
I think we just did.
/beat you to it
//I HATE YOU ALL!!!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
and nancy grace can suck kerosene and eat flaming briquets
Vez with some righteous indignation. I am a fan of this angry Vez
July 5th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
I just want to talk more about making sex to Casey Anthony…
Like right now? In front of the courthouse steps? With a fifth of Jim Beam in her hand and a cowboy hat on her head?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
I’d rather hear another 2 months of NFL lockout talks.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Jesus. Cycling isn’t that bad.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
hi five butters, i’ve wondered who i’d push out of the way to get to her or amanda knox
give me amanda knox. i bet your penis would melt off as it entered lucifer anthony.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
You’re taking your lent abstinence to another level.
There was no gay joke involved. That was the Lenten abstinence. My secret plan was to go back tonight and post it just to get it out of my system.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Perhaps i should have worded it differently
He had lyles cook up some phony recruiting package in order to cover up the 25k. Dude is toast. like you said earlier (and in tress’ case) coverup will nail him
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Pujols activated.
Related: MLB drug testing a farce.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
With Aretha Franklin’s “Freedom” blaring in the background
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Fine. I’ll be back in time to talk about the British Grand Prix. Be ready.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Now that she’s an Empty Nester, she’ll go on a cougar rampage for the ages.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
give me amanda knox
me first.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Oh my god you’re so smart! He was complaining about how much people were talking about the case but you missed that point entirely, braniac!
go back to talking about which criminal you’d like to bang, losers.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Arranging a recruiting trip to Oregon for a group of kids, getting LMJ transferred so he didn’t have to take the Texas test that he wasn’t going to pass, getting Seastrunk’s grandmother able to cosign his LOI
July 5th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Why is Casey Anthony compelling? SG is so angry …
July 5th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Yahoo Sports headline: “Bieber fever hits MMA”
/lights CRM signal
//walks away
July 5th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Nah he probably just got some magical stem cell treatment that is somehow legal
July 5th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Okay Ballz, you redeemed yourself here. +1
July 5th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Agree on the Nancy Grace hate. What a terrible waste of life. If this were happening to an African-American girl, she wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. Fuck her.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Oregon’s a member of the Association of American Universities, member of the Pac 12. Not saying it’s Harvard. Am saying there’s more pressure there to maintain the pretense of being an actual school where rules apply than some places in the SEC.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
which criminal you’d like to bang
dibs on Aileen Wuornos (she’s still Charlize Theron underneath)
July 5th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
i bet your penis would melt off as it entered lucifer anthony.
except for the word ‘off’, is this supposed to dissuade me?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
How about 12 sensible people to return the correct verdict? Whoops, forgot we are talking about Florida. Might not be 12 sensible people in the state.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
give me amanda knox
me first
fine, but clean it up please. i like my trains clean burning
July 5th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
No way did you just put Casey Anthony and Amanda Knox in the same ballpark. Amanda Knox is legitimately hot.
how bout both at once? one will strangle you and the other will hide your body
July 5th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Did you type that with the king james clutched under one arm.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
fine, but clean it up please. i like my trains clean burning
+1 DNA covered Knife and Bra Strap
July 5th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
I’ll take him back at UNH.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
We should talk about the Tour de France……
TBl said a couple years ago that it doesn’t move the needle.
And put me in the Fuck Nancy Grace crowd. What a dusty old cunt.
Anthony may be a horrible mother, but she is innocent. I eagerly await her book, “If I Would Have Done it, Here is How I Would Have Done It.”
July 5th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Oregon is ranked 111th in US News & World Reports. I’m genuinely surprised they are ranked that badly. Only Washington State is worse in the Pac-12.
I refuse to believe a fracture of any magnitude heals fully in 2 weeks. You can’t even heal a broken finger in that time line, let alone a part of the body that takes a fair amount of stress when swinging a baseball bat like the wrist.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
except for the word ‘off’, is this supposed to dissuade me?
i suppose not. i didnt factor your disregard for keeping your penis into the equation.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
I’ve heard the fans in St. Louis are super nice, but I didn’t know broken wrists could heal faster there.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
the only thing anyone cares about now is when they will sack up and suspend Contador. Sport is still dirty as hell.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
go back to talking about which criminal you’d like to bang, losers.
wait, you really thought you;d get a legit legal discussion about a case we’ve been wanting to see disappear for the last 2 years or more?
here?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
i’m meltingggggg!!!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
You got a link to that or are you just race baiting for fun?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Every stay at home Mom I know has taken to Facebook and expressed their anger. I may stay away from FB for awhile.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:43 PM
ugh. righteous indignation
patooey!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
+1 more quarterfinal loss to Northern Iowa or Villanova
July 5th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Love that Casey Anthony has defenders on here. But OJ, Tyson, Kobe? All guilty. Hmmmm….
July 5th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Oh my god you’re so smart! He was complaining about how much people were talking about the case but you missed that point entirely, braniac!
And then you called him a shitbag. Or a fuckface. One of those. Which one of us is being unreasonable?
go back to talking about which criminal you’d like to bang, losers.
Since you brought it up: Evelyn Nesbit. I bet she was a minx in bed.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Mainly the second option. But look at Nancy Grace’s main pursuits. Hell, they mocked her in an SVU episode (going back to L&O offshoots again, sorry ms). Don’t tell me it’s not the truth. I don’t see Nancy Grace flying up to Philly to report on the numerous, poor non-white kids every month.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Sold!
July 5th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
I guess the scissor fight card is now SG v. Casey Anthony. Winner gets Phillymantis’ junk.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:45 PM
the only thing anyone cares about now is when they will sack up and suspend Contador. Sport is still dirty as hell.
Get Duffy on it.
Every stay at home Mom I know has taken to Facebook and expressed their anger. I may stay away from FB for awhile.
Same on my FB. I posted, “Nancy Grace loses again.” as a comment on some chick I haven’t seen in 10 years and have three mutual friends. The SaH moms have lit me up. It is sad that they know so little about the law. One told me that the prosecuter will recharge her and put her on trial again. Some people are dumb.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
July 5th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
One told me that the prosecuter will recharge her and put her on trial again.
Ashley Judd taught me that this isn’t possible.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Love that Casey Anthony has defenders on here. But OJ, Tyson, Kobe? All guilty. Hmmmm….
Who’s defending her? I think your sarcasm detector needs a tune-up.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
I hate Nancy Grace too. But I don’t think she’s alone in the media when it comes to ignoring similar stories with different looking people.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
I hate Nancy Grace too. But I don’t think she’s alone in the media when it comes to ignoring similar stories with different looking people
Perhaps if she would concentrate more on those other cases, others would too?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
i’m a stay at home dad, and i gives a fuck
July 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
haha, this! And I much prefer the talk that I started than the stupid talk that was preceding my comment.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
These are just posts on my FB page. I didn’t bother copying the comments.
” am just profoundly disgusted! What a miscarriage of justice. Rest in peace Caylee. We were there for you today whether earthly justice was or not. God knows!”
“My only thoughts on the casey anthony verdict is this…Rest assuard that GOD Knows and his verdict will be just!!!”
“Not even Manslaughter???? Come on…..”
“Injustice is everywhere; justice seems far away.Truth is chased out of court;honesty is shoved aside” Isa.59:14 Today too!”
“her child is still dead! High fives and hugs all around! Messed up!”
“Insane!!! How in the world??? Who doesn’t report their kid missing for a month and walks off with Nothing! She better move to another country don’t think it is gunna be safe for her to walk the streets!”
July 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Wow. FB is on fire. No need to go there if you want anything other than outrage.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
“her child is still dead! High fives and hugs all around! Messed up!”
This is the only reasonable one.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Well I completely agree with this. High fiving is disgusting.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Wow.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
nappy heads aren’t as cute as blondes……………………………………………………………………..and puppies.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
go back and read the comments. this is not your finest day my friend.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
nappy heads aren’t as cute as blondes……………………………………………………………………..and puppies.
What he said. Networks only care about a child dying if it was cute, white, and preferably a girl*.
*but gender isn’t as important as it being white.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
FB is a hot mess right now. I’m ready to put a “Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers and they were proven not-guilty, all of your fake moral outrage goes directly against our legal system”
July 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Ha! I haven’t heard that phrase in a while.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
A miscarriage could have saved everyone a lot of paperwork.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
What’s wow about that?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
What a miscarriage of justice.
A miscarriage could have saved everyone a lot of paperwork.
I transfer to you every point I received for setting SG straight.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
“her child is still dead! High fives and hugs all around! Messed up!”
This is the only reasonable one.
I included it because it was the same chick that posted Anthony won’t be safe walking on the streets.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
I included it because it was the same chick that posted Anthony won’t be safe walking on the streets.
That woman is just pouring her thoughts out then I see.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
What a miscarriage of justice.
A miscarriage could have saved everyone a lot of paperwork.
YYSA wins Comment of the Month and it is only the 5th. The bar is set high.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
So are you under the assumption that the select few here who are defending Casey also assumed Kobe is guilty? Do you have a commenter spreadsheet breakdown of this? Because there were/are Kobe defenders too.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Best Fugees song ever.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
go back and read the comments. this is not your finest day my friend.
or you could just tell me?
July 5th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
So glad I don’t have facebook. I’d be blocking many friends today
July 5th, 2011 at 3:56 PM
Do you have a commenter spreadsheet breakdown of this?
/still waiting for SC to email to everyone the commenter breakdown spreadsheet.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:56 PM
That woman is just pouring her thoughts out then I see.
Perhaps. She is now wondering if there will be riots. I wish her and I didn’t have so many similar friends or she’d be getting shit-canned off my account right now.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
I hate Nancy Grace too. But I don’t think she’s alone in the media when it comes to ignoring similar stories with different looking people
Perhaps if she would concentrate more on those other cases, others would too?
for me it’s not about race; she makes my skin crawl because she makes money off horrible crimes, being judgmental and righteous, and tugging heartstrings. crusader my ass. john walsh is ashamed of what he started when he sees her
/and she’s ugly and fat
July 5th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
go back and read the comments. this is not your finest day my friend.
I see far more people standing up for the legal system than I do Casey Anthony.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
She is now wondering if there will be riots.
Luckily people in this country only riot for good reasons.
/sporting events excluded.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Funny that doesn’t seem to apply to OJ though.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Saying she won’t be safe to walk the streets…that took it to a “wow” for me.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:59 PM
So are you under the assumption that the select few here who are defending Casey also assumed Kobe is guilty? Do you have a commenter spreadsheet breakdown of this? Because there were/are Kobe defenders too.
I’m putting on my Assumption Hat, but I think the deal with Kobe is that he basically paid off his accuser. He didn’t have a trial, so there is still doubt as to what happened. The OJ angle is a tough nut to crack, I will admit. The prosecution mangled that case so badly that public perception will never accept the fact that he was innocent by a jury of his peers.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:59 PM
OJ had no defenders? Come on, man. I bought his book. I believed in him.
July 5th, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Reginald Denny would like a word with you.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
I’m ready to put a “Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers and they were proven not-guilty, all of your fake moral outrage goes directly against our legal system”
/sees philly mantis on the edge, looks around, pushes
July 5th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Funny that doesn’t seem to apply to OJ though.
Well that’s because I’m racist, you see. For the record, I never was one of the people standing up for the legal system in here either, I think Casey should burn. But you can go ahead and let it fit your narrative.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
My mom used to tease me with the phrase when she couldn’t get the comb through my hair.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Probably true though. Wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t have a few ass-kickings in her future.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Jumping to conclusions mat >>> assumption hat
July 5th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
WWoS is a dirty whore.
/wordswithfriends rage
July 5th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
This is a different chick. The SaH Mom Posse will provide vigilante justice.
We were just saying that… You can’t really get away with it if you did it or had anything to do with it. #1 ~ God knows the truth… #2 your conscience will eat you alive!! #3 she may wish she was in prison because the people around her will want to serve justice! RIP Caylee
July 5th, 2011 at 4:02 PM
No, but they should be rioting since American Idol is over for the season
/TBL’d
What was that for?
July 5th, 2011 at 4:02 PM
Wished you guys would play wordfued instead
July 5th, 2011 at 4:03 PM
Reginald Denny would like a word with you.
My tongue was firmly planted in cheek while writing that. There’s rarely a ‘good’ reason to riot.
Unless of course it’s black Friday at your local Walmart and you have to get to the home wares section before the other fat suburbanites do.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
What was that for?
first off, i assure you it was friendly
you said you were ready to post something i agreed with. so i equated it with seeing your readiness (on the edge), and pushing you (please post that on FB)
July 5th, 2011 at 4:05 PM
Guess I should spell wordfeud correctly
July 5th, 2011 at 4:05 PM
apparently food isn’t one of them
/tbl’d circa summer 2009
July 5th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
i don’t think anyone is defending her.
i guarantee if the death penalty wasn’t involved she is convicted.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
I got it. Just wanted to be a part of the fun.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
In hindsight, probably why jury doesn’t want their names out there
July 5th, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Yea, but won’t people figure it out. I mean, I suddenly come back to work after several weeks and say I have been at Disney World
July 5th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Chip Kelly looks like what Roger Goodell might look like if the lockout lasts too long and he finds himself in a depression that can only be cured by more Baconators.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
Really? This is your rallying cry against capital punishment? Really?
July 5th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
Wished you guys would play wordfued instead
Guess I should spell wordfeud correctly
I wish the scrabble app was a better, more interactive app. Because it sucks, but that’s the game to be playing.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
I just got up on the Words With Friends thing (hello, Android version!) so if anybody wants to play I am starkweather77 on there and I suck pretty bad at it
July 5th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Isn’t that supposed to be not a consideration. No wonder lawyers only let dumb fucking idiots on juries. You have a grad degree or anything in your life that displays original thought or lack of a lemming pedigree, you couldn’t talk your way on a jury.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
nope, i’m not against it at all. adding the death penalty puts an even bigger onus on the prosecution. if they can’t remove absolutely all doubt from all 12 members of the jury, she is acquitted.
that’s a lot to digest as a juror. being 1 of 12 people that will decide if another person dies. better be damn sure you’re right and the proof is there.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
I am Widewordofsport (no spaces, I think that matters) on WWF if anyone wants to play…
July 5th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
I suck pretty bad at it
that’s always awkward. absentmindedly pounding guys into submission until they realize they need to quit hitting rematch.
That’s what used to happen to me when I played racquetball. I never beat anybody, ever. I ran into the wall a lot.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Guilty. Not guilty. There shouldn’t be a “guilty but only if she won’t die” penalty.
/thinks back to jury ignoring OJ DNA evidence
//goes back to cursing juries
July 5th, 2011 at 4:20 PM
I uninstalled WWF this morning. Quite liberating.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Isn’t that supposed to be not a consideration. No wonder lawyers only let dumb fucking idiots on juries. You have a grad degree or anything in your life that displays original thought or lack of a lemming pedigree, you couldn’t talk your way on a jury.
I have a friend who spent a year and a half in the Uniform Division of the Secret Service. He’s now in banking, but every time he gets a jury summons he gets to list himself as ex-law enforcement. He was so sure that this would get him instantly dismissed from service when he went to the county court a few months ago, that he confidently predicted that he’d be able to have a nice lunch and get back to the office before 1pm.
At 6:15 that night I got a text from him as I was leaving work saying “I JUST FINALLY FUCKING GOT OUT! I HATE THIS COUNTRY!”
July 5th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
I’m chalking it up to rust right now. I used to play Scarbulous all the time and was pretty good but I haven’t gotten back into the Scrabble thing just yet. I’m sure that watching Bravo and Oxygen (I think? That’s where all the wedding themed shit is, right?) has made me stupider so I’m trying to counter by reading a lot of non-fiction but it might be a losing battle
July 5th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
I am Widewordofsport (no spaces, I think that matters) on WWF if anyone wants to play…
Considering how everyone who plays you says you destroy them, I believe I’ll pass.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
That’s what used to happen to me when I played racquetball. I never beat anybody, ever. I ran into the wall a lot.
my problem with raquetball is that i wanted it to be a workout, with running and diving and such. you can beat a lot of folks with athelticism. then you play a senior citizen with a knee brace and a potbelly who knows all the shots, and never has to move and beats you 21-13.
no fun
July 5th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
I uninstalled WWF this morning. Quite liberating.
I”m playing one game right now. I had retired again, but Lisk wanted to play. He said pounding on chumps wasn’t fun, and he wanted to be the chump for a while.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:24 PM
I don’t mind if I’m getting beat by 100 points because there are times when I beat others by triple digits. It just helps pass the time
July 5th, 2011 at 4:25 PM
I”m playing one game right now. I had retired again, but Lisk wanted to play. He said pounding on chumps wasn’t fun, and he wanted to be the chump for a while.
WWS is kicking my ass right now. Of course, he started it with a 70+ point bingo before I even made a move, something that should be outlawed. That’s like spotting someone 5 strokes before you even tee up, when you are otherwise even.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:25 PM
you can beat a lot of folks with athleticism.
I have always sucked at the racket based sports, because my skill set involved hustle and running into people, and that’s about it. And if you run into a guy playing racquetball, they get pissed. I mostly got run ragged. I might be 0 and a hundred something in that sport. I’ve beaten some girls in tennis, but never anybody in racquetball.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Hey YYSA… still think you should wait to trade Wily Mo?
Meh… Lisk takes me to task every once in a while. I finally guessed at a few lucky words/got good letters and may actually take one from him now.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
I miss playing racquetball. Love that game
July 5th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
flagrant racism
/ty duffy’d
July 5th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
hmmm, i never considered making it a contact sport
July 5th, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Of course, he started it with a 70+ point bingo before I even made a move, something that should be outlawed.
go buy word freak from abebooks dot com. You can get it for less than 4 bucks, shipped. In there, you will learn that there is about a 12 percent chance that your first rack has bingo in it. It’s not at all uncommon to rock a bingo off the bat.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:27 PM
I lost to my friend from the Philippines about 15 times in a row. She got every damn lucky tile draw. We’ve played about 30 times and I’ve won 3 or 4 times.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
I never hit the rematch button because I don’t want to make someone feel like they have to play. There is one person who would give me a ridiculous guilt trip if I declined one of her games. I’m sucked into a never ending vortex of WWF just because I don’t feel like having to send the, “No I’m not mad at you! I swear! I’m just busy and don’t feel like playing for awhile” conversation.
I need new friends.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
That was the luckiest first few moves I’ve ever had. After having 6 vowels for four turns in a row last game, I felt I was owed.
And I generally do spot someone 5 strokes on the first tee. It’s called my first tee shot usually ending back on the driving range (no matter where the range is) and spending my full five minutes trying to pick my one ball out of hundreds.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
I lost to my friend from the Philippines about 15 times in a row. She got every damn lucky tile draw. We’ve played about 30 times and I’ve won 3 or 4 times.
at some point, luck isn’t involved. If you lose that high of a percentage, she’s significantly better. Oh, and we all know it’s a ladyboy. We’re not fooled.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Ive actually given in on the “Q no U” words and two letter words that make no sense. I couldn’t stand losing on principle…
July 5th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
There is one person who would give me a ridiculous guilt trip if I declined one of her games. I’m sucked into a never ending vortex of WWF just because I don’t feel like having to send the, “No I’m not mad at you! I swear! I’m just busy and don’t feel like playing for awhile” conversation.
when I decided to quit playing, I was playing 17 games. 8 people, two games at once, and one other. It’s easy to be too much.
Right now, I’m just tapping my foot, because I’m waiting to play. It’s ultra addictive.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Let’s talk about your fantasies later.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
It sucks when 3 letter words involving the letter “z” rack up points against you. Sure, friend, play “lez” for 35+ points
July 5th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
We only played twice. I was waiting for you to rematch me and was disappointed when you didn’t. I still need to beat you once.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
I don’t know anymore. Part of me wants to see what he will do with more at bats. 5 dingers in 39 ABs. I say get him in the HR derby and get his trade value really going.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
I turned off notifications. Slows down the game, but not as distracting. I have three games at once and that’s basically it.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Ive actually given in on the “Q no U” words and two letter words that make no sense. I couldn’t stand losing on principle…
I’ll tell you again, there are well over 100 acceptable 2 letter words. If you join the national scrabble club, among the first (and only) materials they send you are lists of all acceptable twos and three letter words, lists of short JXZQ words, Q without U words, and short words with 2 I’s and 2 U’s.
They’re acceptable words within the game. Some are bullshit, sure, but it’s a level playing field. They’re playable for all players, not just you.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
WTF that “ADE” isn’t a word. It’s in the NY Times crossword puzzles all the time.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
I refuse to look at those lists. I will learn words by getting beat on them, but will not use lists to tell me what to do.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
We only played twice. I was waiting for you to rematch me and was disappointed when you didn’t. I still need to beat you once.
I played you 10 times in one day (or over the course of two) and beat you all of the times. When you didn’t press rematch, I assumed it was because you were tired of losing.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
thank goodness for heldover. Aside from the asskickings I get from WWoS and Mugatu, heldover and I are on an even playing level
July 5th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Yep. Exactly why I stopped.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
MUZJIKS is the highest scoring scrabble word though, thanks to google.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
I refuse to look at those lists.
If I’m playing somebody I don’t know, I”ll let them play with a list. I’d rather everybody had the info. Besides, if you don’t stack the 2′s, how can I stack the 3′s?
July 5th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
Are you confusing me with someone else? I know we didn’t play 10 games.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
I just started a new game against Watsonian. RIIEEEE. FML
July 5th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Also, now that I know you’re part of the national scrabble club and are using help books from this stupid club to win games, I don’t want to play with you. Shame on you for calling out your mom for cheating, cheater.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
I have no shame in looking at the cheat websites
July 5th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
MUZJIKS is the highest scoring scrabble word though, thanks to google
it has the highest point value without regard to placement, but it is worth far less than dropping something across two triples and bingoing, especially if you can get a 10 pointer on a double. That’s the holy grail. Quixotic, or quizzing. I once got Nightjar for a whole bunch on two triples.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
I don’t know about scrabble, but you need a 9 letter word in WWF to get both triples.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
/googles “words with 6 vowels”
July 5th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Also, now that I know you’re part of the national scrabble club and are using help books from this stupid club to win games, I don’t want to play with you. Shame on you for calling out your mom for cheating, cheater.
they are reference materials, and they live in the scrabble box. The dictionary lives on the bookshelf, but I don’t use it to play either.
But I have seen the lists, and have a working knowledge of them, yes.
My mother was actively cheating every turn, by putting her letters into an anagram program and being given a list of words that she could make, and she was doing it every turn.
I can play that game against the scrabble computer, and not have to talk to her while doing so.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I don’t know about scrabble, but you need a 9 letter word in WWF to get both triples.
scrabble is 8. It has the classic star pattern.
p.s. Sportsgal was definitely on the verge of beating me. She is a quality opponent.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I just started a new game against Watsonian. RIIEEEE. FML
your play is eerie, by the way.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
oh eat it. you got a million points on 3 2-letter words and a a 3 letter word just now. It gave me a rack of JZXQOOE
July 5th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
I’m up for Sportsgal. I’m a little too scared to move on you. I’ll be too petrified every time a word creeps near an orange square.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Don’t help him. First time I’ve ever played WWF.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
so to speak
July 5th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
You have “ZOO” and “OX” ready made, plus a few others. That’s a pretty good draw, except the Q given our board.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Ha. Already had that one, luckily. I’m pretty convinced it’s more about stacking words than getting the longest words. Finally my daily crossword at lunch helps me out.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
I would crush everyone in Boggle.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
I call bullshit on this one. I am awesome at Boggle.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:56 PM
In Wordswithfriends, I am john lackey and WWos is the Toronto Blue jays offense.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
I would crush everyone in Boggle.
I call bullshit on this one. I am awesome at Boggle.
I too am the shit at boggle, although it’s so much easier to play versions online where you just type.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
don’t tell Jason Lisk, but I”m about to bingo his ass again. But only for about 48 points, I think.
July 5th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
thank goodness for Sporcle where I just compete against the clock.
/working on memorization of European capitals
July 5th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
But are you familiar with all your 17 letter words and the most effective uses of the ‘Qu’ die?
July 5th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
Zynga’s version is called Scramble…it needs work though.
July 5th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
Jersey and I are (finally) in a pretty close WWF battle right now. I’ve slaughtered him like 5 times already. This is the first time he’s been within 20 points of me.
July 5th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
SG, what’s your WWF username?
July 5th, 2011 at 5:09 PM
Jersey and I are (finally) in a pretty close WWF battle right now. I’ve slaughtered him like 5 times already. This is the first time he’s been within 20 points of me.
I thought I had you the other day. Drat.
July 5th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
I am so nervous right now. Feels like prom night.
July 5th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
I just got a bingo with FELLATES against Jersey. This is a proud moment for me
July 5th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
I normally get really pissed about landing things like that, but I just tipped my cap and moved on.
July 5th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
chisportsgal
July 5th, 2011 at 7:07 PM
Seriously?
July 5th, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Which TBLer is the Oregon homer?
Oregon, unlike some schools who shall go unnamed, is expected to be an academic institution first, and a football program second.
Get real.
July 6th, 2011 at 9:24 AM
one of the single dumbest things ever written on this site.