<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Will the Last Blogger Who Takes a Dump on Jonah Lehrer&#8217;s Sabermetrics Piece For Grantland Please Turn Off the Lights?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 17:52:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Wide Word of Sport (?)</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1363137</link> <dc:creator>Wide Word of Sport (?)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1363137</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;guy got his balls out, and showed them. They were big, and they were brass. That’s one of my all time favorite football plays&lt;/blockquote&gt;Funny thing is, it worked except the bobble.  Wasn&#039;t like it got stuff like a Barry Sanders playoff run./earlier]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>guy got his balls out, and showed them. They were big, and they were brass. That’s one of my all time favorite football plays</p></blockquote><p>Funny thing is, it worked except the bobble.  Wasn&#8217;t like it got stuff like a Barry Sanders playoff run.</p><p>/earlier</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roger from oz</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1353029</link> <dc:creator>roger from oz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:35:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1353029</guid> <description><![CDATA[Simmons blows. So does this sabermetrics crap.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simmons blows. So does this sabermetrics crap.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PurdueMatt</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352879</link> <dc:creator>PurdueMatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:45:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352879</guid> <description><![CDATA[My favorite part of the Baseball Prospectus piece:&lt;blockquote&gt;Grantland, Bill Simmons’s vanity project, has taken some space since its launch to discuss sabermetrics. My takeaway so far is that nobody involved with Grantland knows a thing about the subject.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of the Baseball Prospectus piece:</p><blockquote><p>Grantland, Bill Simmons’s vanity project, has taken some space since its launch to discuss sabermetrics. My takeaway so far is that nobody involved with Grantland knows a thing about the subject.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PurdueMatt</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352877</link> <dc:creator>PurdueMatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:42:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352877</guid> <description><![CDATA[My favorite part of the Deadspin response:&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are these teams that leave their fans with sore bottoms? Lehrer doesn&#039;t say. Literally. He does not name a single team or executive or player that illustrates this overreliance on statistics. At least Joe Morgan knew enough to blame Billy Beane for ruining baseball.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of the Deadspin response:</p><blockquote><p>Who are these teams that leave their fans with sore bottoms? Lehrer doesn&#8217;t say. Literally. He does not name a single team or executive or player that illustrates this overreliance on statistics. At least Joe Morgan knew enough to blame Billy Beane for ruining baseball.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jaywashere</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352840</link> <dc:creator>jaywashere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:28:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352840</guid> <description><![CDATA[I think a lot of people missed the point of the original article...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people missed the point of the original article&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spencer096</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352810</link> <dc:creator>spencer096</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:47:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352810</guid> <description><![CDATA[where did craggs write before deadspin?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where did craggs write before deadspin?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gerard Portmanteau</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352808</link> <dc:creator>Gerard Portmanteau</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:43:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352808</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Huh?Look, Craggs is a good writer, but when did he become the arbiter of uneven writing?OOHHH, TOMMY CRAGGS!!!/cowers in fear //wanking motion&lt;/blockquote&gt;Basically, yes.Scocca is a good writer too, but I&#039;m not entirely sure where he&#039;s coming from. You can&#039;t just be anti-. That might be because I haven&#039;t read enough of his work, of course, but it also might be because he&#039;s a talented sophist. Or a computer program.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Huh?</p><p>Look, Craggs is a good writer, but when did he become the arbiter of uneven writing?</p><p>OOHHH, TOMMY CRAGGS!!!</p><p>/cowers in fear<br /> //wanking motion</p></blockquote><p>Basically, yes.</p><p>Scocca is a good writer too, but I&#8217;m not entirely sure where he&#8217;s coming from. You can&#8217;t just be anti-. That might be because I haven&#8217;t read enough of his work, of course, but it also might be because he&#8217;s a talented sophist. Or a computer program.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ty_Webb 1.0</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352803</link> <dc:creator>Ty_Webb 1.0</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:32:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352803</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&lt;del&gt;Someone&lt;/del&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Everyone&lt;/strong&gt; disagrees with me on the Internet! Shoot &lt;del&gt;him&lt;/del&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Them&lt;/strong&gt;!&lt;/em&gt;/fixed]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><del>Someone</del> <strong>Everyone</strong> disagrees with me on the Internet! Shoot <del>him</del><strong> Them</strong>!</em></p><p>/fixed</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: johndewar</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-3/#comment-1352731</link> <dc:creator>johndewar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:51:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352731</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone disagrees with me on the Internet! Shoot him!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Exactly.&lt;blockquote&gt; I heard a rumor a week ago there was some trepidation (read: fear) among a few writers at Grantland about having their work dissected by the likes of Scocca and Tommy Craggs, and what Scocca did to Lehrer’s piece will only add to the rumor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Huh?Look, Craggs is a good writer, but when did he become the arbiter of uneven writing?OOHHH, TOMMY CRAGGS!!!/cowers in fear //wanking motionAnd Scocca wrote for Slate, which automatically makes me not take him seriously.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Someone disagrees with me on the Internet! Shoot him!</p></blockquote><p>Exactly.</p><blockquote><p> I heard a rumor a week ago there was some trepidation (read: fear) among a few writers at Grantland about having their work dissected by the likes of Scocca and Tommy Craggs, and what Scocca did to Lehrer’s piece will only add to the rumor.</p></blockquote><p>Huh?</p><p>Look, Craggs is a good writer, but when did he become the arbiter of uneven writing?</p><p>OOHHH, TOMMY CRAGGS!!!</p><p>/cowers in fear<br /> //wanking motion</p><p>And Scocca wrote for Slate, which automatically makes me not take him seriously.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim Ryan (TheSportsHernia)</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352716</link> <dc:creator>Tim Ryan (TheSportsHernia)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352716</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This paragraph should be enough to end all the fussin’ and the feudin’ about the subject&lt;/blockquote&gt;That paragraph is wonderful and should be a standard handout for sports fans on the internet.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This paragraph should be enough to end all the fussin’ and the feudin’ about the subject</p></blockquote><p>That paragraph is wonderful and should be a standard handout for sports fans on the internet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ButtersBC</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352700</link> <dc:creator>ButtersBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:34:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352700</guid> <description><![CDATA[From the Fangraphs piece:&lt;blockquote&gt;This all takes us back to the age-old stats vs. scouting argument, which is actually one big misstatement. As many before me have noted, stats are not in conflict with scouting. They’re two different tools that teams can use in evaluating players. Stats are merely a record of what happened on the field. They’re sometimes put in greater context, but they’re the results of the game nonetheless. Scouting is a more subjective, closer look at those same events, and it does include other aspects such as a player’s makeup. Taken together they can provide a team with a reliable player evaluation. Either part without the other, though, can miss important factors. &lt;/blockquote&gt;This paragraph should be enough to end all the fussin&#039; and the feudin&#039; about the subject]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Fangraphs piece:</p><blockquote><p>This all takes us back to the age-old stats vs. scouting argument, which is actually one big misstatement. As many before me have noted, stats are not in conflict with scouting. They’re two different tools that teams can use in evaluating players. Stats are merely a record of what happened on the field. They’re sometimes put in greater context, but they’re the results of the game nonetheless. Scouting is a more subjective, closer look at those same events, and it does include other aspects such as a player’s makeup. Taken together they can provide a team with a reliable player evaluation. Either part without the other, though, can miss important factors.</p></blockquote><p>This paragraph should be enough to end all the fussin&#8217; and the feudin&#8217; about the subject</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: starkweather</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352694</link> <dc:creator>starkweather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352694</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The Olchympics has feces flinging, masturbating relays, and face devouring. But the US’s best chimp athletes don’t participate, because they prefer eating processed banana pancakes.&lt;/em&gt;Flagrantly racist]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Olchympics has feces flinging, masturbating relays, and face devouring. But the US’s best chimp athletes don’t participate, because they prefer eating processed banana pancakes.</em></p><p>Flagrantly racist</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RomanWarHelmet</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352693</link> <dc:creator>RomanWarHelmet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:29:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352693</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;To whoever asked why people are so quick to rip apart Grantland pieces (maybe not for this piece in particular since it was rather odd), I think it’s pretty obvious. Many of them are hoping for the eyes of Bill Simmons to light up and force him to promptly fire off an email with an offer letter to come join the Grantland team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Dear Tyler...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To whoever asked why people are so quick to rip apart Grantland pieces (maybe not for this piece in particular since it was rather odd), I think it’s pretty obvious. Many of them are hoping for the eyes of Bill Simmons to light up and force him to promptly fire off an email with an offer letter to come join the Grantland team.</p></blockquote><p>Dear Tyler&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wilhelmreems</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352692</link> <dc:creator>wilhelmreems</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:29:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352692</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;They pumped up that ESPN book like it might bring the company down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sponsored posts never deliver on the hype.except for chicken legs.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They pumped up that ESPN book like it might bring the company down.</p></blockquote><p>Sponsored posts never deliver on the hype.</p><p>except for chicken legs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ATL_Badger</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352691</link> <dc:creator>ATL_Badger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352691</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Talking about this reminded me of that post Lebatard did here a while back as the Mariotti nonsense was going on. &lt;/em&gt;LeBatard&#039;s one of the few people in sports journalism that I believe has a brain and uses it well. I just wish he would stop being so naive about athletes and their behavior sometimes.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Talking about this reminded me of that post Lebatard did here a while back as the Mariotti nonsense was going on. </em></p><p>LeBatard&#8217;s one of the few people in sports journalism that I believe has a brain and uses it well. I just wish he would stop being so naive about athletes and their behavior sometimes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TheBigLead</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352689</link> <dc:creator>TheBigLead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:27:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352689</guid> <description><![CDATA[Fangraphs chimes in:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/beating-up-the-sabermetric-strawman/]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fangraphs chimes in:</p><p><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/beating-up-the-sabermetric-strawman/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/beating-up-the-sabermetric-strawman/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: coop247</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352686</link> <dc:creator>coop247</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352686</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with The General.  I was told Grantland was &quot;intellectual&quot; and &quot;sophisticated&quot; but its largely pop culture garbage, sports observations, and wrestling. That&#039;s fine, but don&#039;t tell me it&#039;s anything new.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with The General.  I was told Grantland was &#8220;intellectual&#8221; and &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; but its largely pop culture garbage, sports observations, and wrestling. That&#8217;s fine, but don&#8217;t tell me it&#8217;s anything new.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ATL_Badger</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352685</link> <dc:creator>ATL_Badger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:27:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352685</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The deadspin layout is a couple of months old and we still fucking hate it.&lt;/em&gt;I used to go to that site everyday. Now I barely pop in twice a week. None of the stuff on there is good anymore. They pumped up that ESPN book like it might bring the company down. (It didn&#039;t) Deadspin hookup Failure? As a weekly feature? To the surprise of nobody here, I&#039;ve had plenty of my own hookup failures. I don&#039;t want to read about someone else&#039;s that may or may not be embellished because they want to get it published on the site.Grantland hasn&#039;t made my website rotation yet. I&#039;m still trying to figure out what I want to get out of it.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The deadspin layout is a couple of months old and we still fucking hate it.</em></p><p>I used to go to that site everyday. Now I barely pop in twice a week. None of the stuff on there is good anymore. They pumped up that ESPN book like it might bring the company down. (It didn&#8217;t) Deadspin hookup Failure? As a weekly feature? To the surprise of nobody here, I&#8217;ve had plenty of my own hookup failures. I don&#8217;t want to read about someone else&#8217;s that may or may not be embellished because they want to get it published on the site.</p><p>Grantland hasn&#8217;t made my website rotation yet. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out what I want to get out of it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ButtersBC</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352684</link> <dc:creator>ButtersBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:26:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352684</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;//adds Karate Kid reference&lt;/blockquote&gt;The metrics all said Johnny Lawrence was a lock, Daniel LaRusso didn&#039;t fucking care (although at the time they didn&#039;t know how to account for the crane kick)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>//adds Karate Kid reference</p></blockquote><p>The metrics all said Johnny Lawrence was a lock, Daniel LaRusso didn&#8217;t fucking care (although at the time they didn&#8217;t know how to account for the crane kick)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sportsdork</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/will-the-last-blogger-who-takes-a-dump-on-jonah-lehrers-sabermetrics-piece-for-grantland-please-turn-off-the-lights/comment-page-2/#comment-1352683</link> <dc:creator>sportsdork</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:25:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103977#comment-1352683</guid> <description><![CDATA[Talking about this reminded me of that post Lebatard did here a while back as the Mariotti nonsense was going on.  Not sure why, but I read it again and enjoyed it.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about this reminded me of that post Lebatard did here a while back as the Mariotti nonsense was going on.  Not sure why, but I read it again and enjoyed it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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