<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Terrell Owens Not a Hall of Famer? I&#8217;d Like to Introduce Len Pasquarelli to a Concept Called Value over Baseline</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 01:13:51 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: roger from oz</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1353598</link> <dc:creator>roger from oz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1353598</guid> <description><![CDATA[If Lynn Swann gets in, this complete egomaniac moron, T.O., also gets in.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Lynn Swann gets in, this complete egomaniac moron, T.O., also gets in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ballz</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352945</link> <dc:creator>Ballz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:00:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352945</guid> <description><![CDATA[Apparently, Len Pasquarelli has 24 IP addresses./youtube comment]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Len Pasquarelli has 24 IP addresses.</p><p>/youtube comment</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wide Word of Sport (?)</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352480</link> <dc:creator>Wide Word of Sport (?)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352480</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sorry, Lisk.  Now I feel like a jerk.  I agree with everything you said... I&#039;m just used to Lisk columns with more tables and numbers, and fewer words.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Lisk.  Now I feel like a jerk.  I agree with everything you said&#8230; I&#8217;m just used to Lisk columns with more tables and numbers, and fewer words.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ButtersBC</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352247</link> <dc:creator>ButtersBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352247</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;First ballot HOF. This is my favorite TO moment. Love the radio call too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Late, but get porked/Rice fumbled]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First ballot HOF. This is my favorite TO moment. Love the radio call too.</p></blockquote><p>Late, but get porked</p><p>/Rice fumbled</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: starkweather</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352245</link> <dc:creator>starkweather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352245</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Cubs fan. &lt;strong&gt;Yankee supporter&lt;/strong&gt;. Happy?&lt;/em&gt;No]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cubs fan. <strong>Yankee supporter</strong>. Happy?</em></p><p>No</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Lisk</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352243</link> <dc:creator>Jason Lisk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:51:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352243</guid> <description><![CDATA[http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1486Here&#039;s one set of career rankings (not by me) after 2008 that had Owens 4th on the receiver list. The methodology he used may be different than what I would do slightly, but the point, again, is not to get bogged down into the specific baseline, but to say it can be done, for every year.Then, you can also consider other factors (quarterbacks, quality of teammates, attitude, etc) to make adjustments mentally in how you assess players.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1486" rel="nofollow">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1486</a></p><p>Here&#8217;s one set of career rankings (not by me) after 2008 that had Owens 4th on the receiver list. The methodology he used may be different than what I would do slightly, but the point, again, is not to get bogged down into the specific baseline, but to say it can be done, for every year.</p><p>Then, you can also consider other factors (quarterbacks, quality of teammates, attitude, etc) to make adjustments mentally in how you assess players.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sportsdork</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352232</link> <dc:creator>sportsdork</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:48:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352232</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is how this is properly dealt with, other Yankees fans.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.</p></blockquote><p>This is how this is properly dealt with, other Yankees fans.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: traderjack21</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352230</link> <dc:creator>traderjack21</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:47:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352230</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore&lt;/blockquote&gt;Perhaps her response was &quot;spit&quot; instead of &quot;swallow&quot;.  Too bad for her]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps her response was &#8220;spit&#8221; instead of &#8220;swallow&#8221;.  Too bad for her</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SouvenirCity</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352228</link> <dc:creator>SouvenirCity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352228</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If you punched that guy from The Office in the face I’m OK with that, SC. But it makes me sad to see anyone turn to Yankees while also claiming fanhood for a different team&lt;/blockquote&gt;Cubs fan.  Yankee supporter.  Happy?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you punched that guy from The Office in the face I’m OK with that, SC. But it makes me sad to see anyone turn to Yankees while also claiming fanhood for a different team</p></blockquote><p>Cubs fan.  Yankee supporter.  Happy?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: illformula</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352227</link> <dc:creator>illformula</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352227</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.&lt;/em&gt;entirely too much spitting in porno these days.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Maybe the prospective free agent’s whore wife shouldn’t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.</em></p><p>entirely too much spitting in porno these days.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jaywashere</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352224</link> <dc:creator>jaywashere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:46:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352224</guid> <description><![CDATA[Owens was a team cancer... and I&#039;m a 49ers fan so I know it firsthand.  However, he should still clearly be in the hall of fame.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owens was a team cancer&#8230; and I&#8217;m a 49ers fan so I know it firsthand.  However, he should still clearly be in the hall of fame.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Senator Jersey</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352218</link> <dc:creator>Senator Jersey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352218</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe next time the Yankees fans shouldn’t spit on a prospective free agent’s wife.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Maybe the prospective free agent&#039;s whore wife shouldn&#039;t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe next time the Yankees fans shouldn’t spit on a prospective free agent’s wife.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe the prospective free agent&#8217;s whore wife shouldn&#8217;t have mentioned she liked getting spit on. Fucking whore.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: starkweather</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352216</link> <dc:creator>starkweather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352216</guid> <description><![CDATA[If you punched that guy from The Office in the face I&#039;m OK with that, SC. But it makes me sad to see anyone turn to Yankees while also claiming fanhood for a different team]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you punched that guy from The Office in the face I&#8217;m OK with that, SC. But it makes me sad to see anyone turn to Yankees while also claiming fanhood for a different team</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Lisk</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352204</link> <dc:creator>Jason Lisk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:42:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352204</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;If you do everything subjectively, yes. Objectively, you just don’t know. And if you assume you know the answer anyway, that defeats the purpose of looking at stats at all, which is what this article purported to do.&lt;/em&gt;The purpose of this article wasn&#039;t to lay out the specific statistical case that Terrell Owens is a Hall of Famer (I think he is, btw), but to say that the information to make the statistical comparison portion of that judgment is there. Len and others on the HOF selectors keep saying this crap about how they cant distinguish the wide receivers now because passing numbers have increased dramatically. The numbers exist to compare the passing environments of 1995 to 2005 to 1975.No where did I say whether I thought Burroughs was better than Owens for that one season, I just said that the information is available for comparison. It was an example. You can do percentages, straight yard diffs, Z-scores, whatever. But whatever method I choose, I can compare Owens versus Driver.My point wasn&#039;t to do the work, but to say everything you need is available now, and these guys need to stop acting like they can&#039;t make the comparisons.How did they compare Don Hutson and Elroy Hirsch to Lance Alworth to Steve Largent? The game was vastly different in each of those eras yet they were able to make decisions, unlike now.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you do everything subjectively, yes. Objectively, you just don’t know. And if you assume you know the answer anyway, that defeats the purpose of looking at stats at all, which is what this article purported to do.</em></p><p>The purpose of this article wasn&#8217;t to lay out the specific statistical case that Terrell Owens is a Hall of Famer (I think he is, btw), but to say that the information to make the statistical comparison portion of that judgment is there. Len and others on the HOF selectors keep saying this crap about how they cant distinguish the wide receivers now because passing numbers have increased dramatically. The numbers exist to compare the passing environments of 1995 to 2005 to 1975.</p><p>No where did I say whether I thought Burroughs was better than Owens for that one season, I just said that the information is available for comparison. It was an example. You can do percentages, straight yard diffs, Z-scores, whatever. But whatever method I choose, I can compare Owens versus Driver.</p><p>My point wasn&#8217;t to do the work, but to say everything you need is available now, and these guys need to stop acting like they can&#8217;t make the comparisons.</p><p>How did they compare Don Hutson and Elroy Hirsch to Lance Alworth to Steve Largent? The game was vastly different in each of those eras yet they were able to make decisions, unlike now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sportsgal116</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352199</link> <dc:creator>sportsgal116</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352199</guid> <description><![CDATA[I thought Brady Anderson was super freaking hot during his steroid years.  Yum yummy yum.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Brady Anderson was super freaking hot during his steroid years.  Yum yummy yum.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SouvenirCity</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-5/#comment-1352198</link> <dc:creator>SouvenirCity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352198</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Pedroia’s AL MVP from 2nd base&lt;/blockquote&gt;That MVP was stolen from Justin Morneau.  They were merely punishing Morneau for taking Jeter&#039;s in 2006.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pedroia’s AL MVP from 2nd base</p></blockquote><p>That MVP was stolen from Justin Morneau.  They were merely punishing Morneau for taking Jeter&#8217;s in 2006.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: starkweather</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-4/#comment-1352197</link> <dc:creator>starkweather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352197</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;In the ‘stampede over them to get to the shirtless guy’ sort of way?&lt;/em&gt;No, in a &quot;Man of the People&quot; sort of way. Calvert Edwin Ripken, Jr is the kind of all encompassing personality that makes us all realize how small our contributions to society really are. That&#039;s why his visage is being carved into Mount Rushmore]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In the ‘stampede over them to get to the shirtless guy’ sort of way?</em></p><p>No, in a &#8220;Man of the People&#8221; sort of way. Calvert Edwin Ripken, Jr is the kind of all encompassing personality that makes us all realize how small our contributions to society really are. That&#8217;s why his visage is being carved into Mount Rushmore</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: illformula</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-4/#comment-1352195</link> <dc:creator>illformula</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352195</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;In the ‘stampede over them to get to the shirtless guy’ sort of way?&lt;/em&gt;i would say more so in a &quot;he&#039;s walking out of your house with a smile on his face when you return from work to see your wife&quot; sort of way.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In the ‘stampede over them to get to the shirtless guy’ sort of way?</em></p><p>i would say more so in a &#8220;he&#8217;s walking out of your house with a smile on his face when you return from work to see your wife&#8221; sort of way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wide Word of Sport (?)</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-4/#comment-1352194</link> <dc:creator>Wide Word of Sport (?)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352194</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;so when an NL plays them in their park&lt;/blockquote&gt;But our &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080615&amp;content_id=2935446&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pitchers&#039; feet explode&lt;/a&gt; when the run the bases!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so when an NL plays them in their park</p></blockquote><p>But our <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080615&amp;content_id=2935446&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">pitchers&#8217; feet explode</a> when the run the bases!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SouvenirCity</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/29/terrell-owens-not-a-hall-of-famer-id-like-to-introduce-len-pasquarelli-to-a-concept-called-value-over-baseline/comment-page-4/#comment-1352193</link> <dc:creator>SouvenirCity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=103927#comment-1352193</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, a sober and honest question for the Yankees fans around here. Are you guys OK with SC claiming Yankee fandom?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Alec Baldwin and I met at the Carnegie Deli and hashed it out.  He&#039;s the captain of Yankee Fandom and said as long as I bow at the Altar of Jeter on Sundays that I&#039;m all good.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OK, a sober and honest question for the Yankees fans around here. Are you guys OK with SC claiming Yankee fandom?</p></blockquote><p>Alec Baldwin and I met at the Carnegie Deli and hashed it out.  He&#8217;s the captain of Yankee Fandom and said as long as I bow at the Altar of Jeter on Sundays that I&#8217;m all good.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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