The Ravens Website Has a List of Talking Points to Battle Joe Flacco Bashers
Linebackers in the AFC North have declared open season on Joe Flacco recently. First, it was Lamarr Woodley saying Joe Flacco wouldn’t reach a Super Bowl during his lifetime. Then, it was Bengals linebacker Dhani Jones saying that Flacco was a “[c]apable quarterback [but] if you put a lot of pressure on him, he makes bad decisions.”
This has caused the Baltimore Ravens’ team website to release 5 talking point tips to Flacco supporters in your constant battle against Flacco bashers at the office water cooler.
As a service to you, the Flacco basher, I present the 5 talking points to the talking points for your rebuttal. It’s not that I dislike Joe Flacco. I think he’s an average quarterback who has been in a very good situation, and who is still relatively early in his career. Dhani Jones’ comments are pretty spot on, though.
1) What’s football’s most important stat? As Charlie Sheen would concur, it’s winning.
First, minus points for the Sheen reference. Second, and I’ve repeatedly stated this, but this is a team game, and the quarterback often gets too much credit for wins. The Baltimore blogger acknowledges this, and points out one case where Baltimore won against Cleveland despite the defense allowing Peyton Hillis to run for 144 yards last year. See? Flacco carries this team. If your lead talking point is quarterback wins, sorry.
2) Flacco’s stats measure up with the best
If you cherry pick, sure. The author points out how much better he was than the first three years of Peyton Manning, and also compares him to Brady, and Drew Brees in raw totals (Brees was benched for a period and was drafted by a 1-15 team). It also depends on what “stats” we are talking about. The avoidance of interception is highly volatile and as much a function of team situation as anything. Quarterbacks who play for winning teams that play with the lead with good defenses throw fewer interceptions. Causation runs both ways, but probably moreso in the direction of team success causing reduced risk taking.
Then, there is the sack rate, which is an area where Joe Flacco has been sub-par the last three years. I talked about his propensity to hold the ball and take sacks earlier this year, and if you look at that stat, you see he does not measure up to the best. I looked at comparable seasons based on the underlying component stats. Don Majkowski in 1989 was #1. He also reminds me of Ken O’Brien, another small school first round pick who had a tendency to hold the ball, but put up good numbers in other categories. He didn’t develop and improve through his late 20′s either.
3) A few plays don’t paint Steelers picture
I’m not going to get into this one, because I would agree that you can’t judge someone after a few plays. I just want to point out this quote, which I would agree with, but runs completely counter to every other thing said both before and after: “Also, the argument that Flacco hasn’t beaten Roethlisberger is irrelevant. It’s the Ravens who haven’t beaten Big Ben since 2006, not Flacco.” Ah, so Flacco wins, but it’s the Ravens who lose to Pittsburgh as a team. Got it.
4) Even greats take time to get over playoff hump
Some greats take time to get over the playoff hump. Some don’t take time at all. Also, some average quarterbacks take time to get over the playoff hump but unnecessarily get credit, others get credit right away, and then later prove to be average. Not sure how this proves or disproves anything. 99% of all quarterbacks have not won a Super Bowl by age 25, and the vast majority never will.
5) Flacco is still growing
Maybe, maybe not. We assume that all quarterbacks continue to develop through their mid-20′s into their late-20′s, but that is not what always happens. The propensity to take sacks is the concern here, particularly the fact that his sack rate actually regressed in 2010. David Carr didn’t progress after age 25, neither did Tim Couch. Same with Rick Mirer. These are all guys who are thought of at busts now, but if you went back in time, you would find many who would argue they were going to continue to develop. They all had in common that they took sacks at a high rate, even if they showed promise in other areas earlier. Others, like Bert Jones, Neil Lomax and Ken O’Brien, also were high sack guys who peaked early, and tended to suffer injuries because they took too many hits.
Flacco may still grow, but the criticisms are valid, and he will only develop if he learns to get rid of the ball quicker.
[photo via Getty]


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June 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 PM
Flacco sucks donkey manure.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Spencer is going to bro-hug the shit out of you, Lisk.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Youre fired.
/TBL
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Flacco sucks. I’m sure some stats will prove me wrong, but watching that guy throw bounce passes and airmails, hold onto the ball three seconds too long, and then checkdown on 3rd and 9 when his team trails late in the fourth quarter is enough to make me say he sucks.
Also, he looks like Cillian Murphy.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Honestly, Flacco is a copy of Bryon Leftwich. Can’t move and has no touch on the short pass.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Fuck Baltimore
/obligatory
//waves Terrible Towel
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:55 PM
6)He makes a fabulous Lemon Poppy Souffle
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 PM
But I’d still take him over Sanchez.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 PM
Ed Reed deserved better that Joe Flaccid.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:57 PM
I’d say that hairline is receding.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Yep these talking points were about as bad as I thought they’d be. I can’t believe I didn’t expect more from a shill writing for his employer’s website.
June 23rd, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Jim Flacco can’t win shit.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 PM
All I can ever think about Cillian Murphy is him delivering that perfect line “its the bat…..man” in batman begins. That is going to be the high point of his career forever. I wonder if he knows that.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Much better than anything he said in Sunshine, 28 Days Later or Inception. Ha ha.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Me too.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:02 PM
I had Baltimore on a moneyline bet against Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year. Every time that fucker touched the ball in the second half, I wanted to kill him. He can be pretty streaky, that’s for sure.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:02 PM
/throws to a running back
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:03 PM
flacco leads the league in unibrow rating.
that nfl top 100 show had rivers ranked #26. way too low, right?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:03 PM
/looks in mirror
//curses genetics
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:03 PM
That’s great
Where’s that list of the Top 50 Ravens in history? Looked for it on their site but came up empty, curious to see if Michael Jackson made it
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:04 PM
is him delivering that perfect line “its the bat…..man” in batman begins
tremendous line.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:06 PM
Bears repeating.
Flacco’s stats are decent because Ray Rice catches checkdowns and turns them into big gains. That kid is a beast.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:07 PM
I laughed pretty hard at this. So simple. Yet so accurate and funny.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:08 PM
That show confuses me. Is it whoever had the best year of last season? or are we talking about the best overall players in the NFL?
Whatever, I like lists.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:08 PM
Where’s that list of the Top 50 Ravens in history? Looked for it on their site but came up empty, curious to see if Michael Jackson made it
Michael Jackson was #33
It’s not all in one post, but spread out over time. The various links are under the “news” section.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:09 PM
I want to know who the person was that convinced him to finally get rid of his unibrow. Still can’t believe the unibrow survived college.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Thank you sir, Deion Sanders on the list at #47 just shows that this thing should have been withheld for a few years
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Flacco > Hosmer
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Well done.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 PM
That show confuses me.
I thought it was best overall players. i cant imagine 25 better players i’d rather have over rivers.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 PM
I want to know who the person was that convinced him to finally get rid of his unibrow. Still can’t believe the unibrow survived college.
When did he get rid of it?
/Did I just engage SG?
//Is that allowed around here anymore?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Good post, Lisk.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Dude. Let it go. Just ignore some of the comments. You’ll be better off.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:14 PM
/Did I just engage SG?
//Is that allowed around here anymore?
When sportsgal engages, pegging ensues. Beware.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Did he wax it or just laser it.
/said laser doing air quotes gesture
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:15 PM
I think in order to properly rile up Lisk on this one, you have to change it to this:
Flacco > Starling
They’re both QBs. It makes mo-
/tackled by Lisk
//beaten with shovel
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:15 PM
It’s absurd that they came up with a list of the top 50 all time Ravens, it’s full of crappy players and punters and fullbacks and players who were there for one year, and yet Vinny Testaverde didn’t make it. He made the pro bowl in their inaugural season, back when the defense sucked, and he threw for 4000+ yards, 33 td’s, was 2nd in league in YPA, top 5 in passer rating.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:16 PM
I bet he blows Ray Rice every night because he pads his yards every game. I think it was against the Dolphins, but Flacco would dump it to Rice and break 3 or 4 tackles to gain 20 yards all the time. He’s also fucked when Mason is gone.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Just embrace it. Easier (and cheaper) that way
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:16 PM
This is going to go down as one of my greatest memories. We were still in the hospital for my second son’s birth. He slept as the Steelers went down early. After awhile I picked him up and held him because he was stirring and that coincided with the comeback. Needless to say, I didn’t put him down the rest of the game.
/too bad it didn’t work for the Super Bowl
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:16 PM
and yet Vinny Testaverde didn’t make it.
Probably because he was too associated with the Browns. Bad blood and all.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Vinny T was #26, that was one of the weirder out-of-nowhere seasons in recent NFL history and it’s not like he had great skill players, like I said Michael Jackson was his 31 target
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Jim Brown is the best Raven ever, and he didn’t even make the list.
/nods at spence
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Got it cut short yesterday, and shaved too… streamlining for summer.
/misses $10 haircuts on Liberty Ave in Pittsburgh… $17-20 here, who the hell do they think they are! It’s a barber shop!
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Just embrace it. Easier (and cheaper) that way
How many orders of Rogaine did you go through before throwing in the towel?
/cheapshot
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:19 PM
I’d say that hairline is receding
/looks in mirror
//curses genetics
Whatever man. You just tied the knot. Don’t really need to worry about that stuff anymore.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Vinny T was #26, that was one of the weirder out-of-nowhere seasons in recent NFL history and it’s not like he had great skill players, like I said Michael Jackson was his 31 target
I guess I missed that. Okay, that’s at least better.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Vinny was totally underappreciated in his time.
/obligatory coop mention of 86 Fiesta Bowl
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:19 PM
I’d be happy to loan people hair if they need it.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Was that a joke to say that he still has one? Or are you honestly asking for a time frame of when he no longer had a unibrow? The latter I can’t answer. I just know on draft day he had a unibrow and now he does not.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Using of the rogaine. Check.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Just embrace it. Easier (and cheaper) that way
I was flipping through my girlfriends womans health magazine and it said only 8% of women find bald men sexy. I cringed.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:21 PM
I like how he stuck around long enough that when you look at career passing rankings he usually appears somewhere and causes a double take
And Joe Flacco’s celebrity doppelganger is clearly Bert
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:22 PM
No Tony Banks?!? No Anthony Wright??? I am OUTRAGED.
HEE hee!
/old school NFL Primetime
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Bought… never used.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:22 PM
HOLY SHIT.
CJ, looks like Izzy is getting that $50M after all.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:23 PM
You’re a boy. Stop bitching about haircut prices.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:23 PM
I miss those days.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:24 PM
After the 3rd and 19 play, guy next to me tried lifting me and I dropped two rows. My knee was fuckin and I barely walked for a week. I regret nothing.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:24 PM
OMG Reggie Bush is actually dating the Kim Kardashian lookalike from the Old Navy commercial.. that is hilarious.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:24 PM
I’m sure you’ll have people lined up for a toupe of your pubes.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
No Trent Dilfer either which goes against that very site’s criteria that winning owns all
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Zero. I heard there was a side effect that can um….put a hitch is your giddyup. If you know what I mean
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
http://www.spike.com/video-clips/5y5013/family-guy-bert-ernie-homicide-life
Best Bert clip ever…
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Was that a joke to say that he still has one? Or are you honestly asking for a time frame of when he no longer had a unibrow? The latter I can’t answer. I just know on draft day he had a unibrow and now he does not.
I was kidding around. You can cease-fire.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
What/Who was it fucking?!
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 PM
$17-20 here, who the hell do they think they are! It’s a barber shop!
Is that a lot? I don’t think I’ve ever paid less than $18 for a haircut. The place I go now is $23 for a shampoo, trim, neck shave, and back massage.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Gonna need her to turn around.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Zero. I heard there was a side effect that can um….put a hitch is your giddyup. If you know what I mean
I think that was Propecia that could cause…that problem.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:26 PM
I didn’t know that John Clayton wrote for the Ravens website.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Is that a lot? I don’t think I’ve ever paid less than $18 for a haircut. The place I go now is $23 for a shampoo, trim, neck shave, and back massage
I pay $25 for that. Tip her $5 for an even $30.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 PM
hair clippers – $25 one time purchase.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 PM
I go to a barber shop and would rather he not massage me, happy to pay $15 + tip and remain tense
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Is that a lot? I don’t think I’ve ever paid less than $18 for a haircut. The place I go now is $23 for a shampoo, trim, neck shave, and back mass
And before anyone snipes me for this, I get my hair cut by a woman.
/no homo.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Damnit, I mean my knee was fucked. I always make the worst typos when I’m almost done working.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Is that a lot? I don’t think I’ve ever paid less than $18 for a haircut. The place I go now is $23 for a shampoo, trim, neck shave, and back massage.
Neck shave? Isn’t that part of a haircut. Never went to a place that cut my hair but left my neck still hairy.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Not neccessarily, they knew they had to dump salary, if it was 50 million they’d need to dump even more players.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
I pay $25 for that. Tip her $5 for an even $30.
I also tip $5-$6. Sometimes more. She also puts a warm towel on my face while shampooing my hair and gives a scalp massage. It’s really quite nice.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
How does everyone tip their barber?
I go $5 on $20.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
I pay 18$ at the russian barber but I do get a beer out of it as well.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Neck shave? Isn’t that part of a haircut. Never went to a place that cut my hair but left my neck still hairy
Some places just use the clippers… the shave is when they use shaving cream and the blade. Feels pretty sweet after.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Neck shave? Isn’t that part of a haircut. Never went to a place that cut my hair but left my neck still hairy.
I think it depends on the place. When I was a kid the place I went to just used the clippers to clean up back there. The place I go now actually lathers up the back of the neck and uses a razor.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Apparently this conversation already started…
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Click on the gallery below the story.
/not that I did
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Vinny T, Penn State legend. Thanks for the 5 picks!
/gives Micheal Irvin the middle finger
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 PM
totally different outlook on hair loss when you buzz it or shave it. i will make myself bald by shaving my already short hair before genetics makes that last hair fall out.
but now i have contempt for guys with full heads of hair going grey, so go figure.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Vinny was totally underappreciated in his time.
I wrote about Vinny being better than people realized here.
short summary- he played with really bad teammates, and when he actually played with decent talent, put up seasons as good or better than most hall of famers with similar talent on offense.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Never had that until the place I go now, now that’s class (although I remain fearful that the guy is going to sneeze and kill me)
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
This … Especially since I started giving up on cool looking haircuts after my hair started thinning up top.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
How does everyone tip their barber?
20%
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
With a tip? That’s pretty clutch.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
I pay 12 bucks and tip 3.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Speaking of Rogaine, anyone want to try a bottle? It just didnt work my hubbie now we have a couple bottles of the stuff just laying around. What a waste.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
I don’t understand getting your hair cut by a woman. I like to have the option of having a straight edge shave if I have time. I just can’t trust a woman to shave my face.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 PM
but now i have contempt for guys with full heads of hair going grey, so go figure.
I do as well. I feel a little sad I will never have that salt and pepper look.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
hair clippers – $25 one time purchase.
I don’t like my hair being that short. If you intend to comb your hair–I part mine on the left and comb it across the top of my forehead–then you have to go to someone who uses scissors. The places that just use clippers are amateur establishments.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
$16 for a cut and he uses a straight razor on my neckline, side burns and around my ears. I always just give a $20 bill and call it a day.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
I don’t understand getting your hair cut by a woman.
I’d rather have a (sometimes) hot, 20 something woman caress my head than a 60 year old man. It’s pretty simple, really.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 PM
i used to get my hair cut by women. i like having bewbs hovering around my face for 20-30 minutes.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:34 PM
I’m blessed with full heads of hair on both sides of my family for many generations.
/Fist pump!
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Speaking of Rogaine, anyone want to try a bottle? It just didnt work my hubbie now we have a couple bottles of the stuff just laying around. What a waste.
CJ, how long did he give it a go for? I’ve been using since Jan and I think it just might be working a little. But it might just be in my head.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:34 PM
I dont know why there arent more Hooters-type hair cutting establishments. Seems like that would be a good draw.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
I pay 12 bucks and tip 3.
high fives Cleet.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
How very metro of you. How much for the happy ending?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Speaking of Rogaine, anyone want to try a bottle? It just didnt work my hubbie now we have a couple bottles of the stuff just laying around. What a waste.
Has anyone ever gotten results from this? Does it just delay the inevitable for an extra 6 months? I feel like if it actually worked it would be more sought after by everyone. I don’t understand how that company is still in business.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
I don’t understand getting your hair cut by a woman. I like to have the option of having a straight edge shave if I have time. I just can’t trust a woman to shave my face
The place I go has that option, but the stylists don’t do it. There’s one or two guys there who are old school barbers who handle those requests. But if I’m just getting the back of my neck cleaned up, I can definitely trust a woman.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Probably around 6 months. Then he read something online about Rogaine only working for the type of bald that starts in the back of your head, not for receding hairlines. It didnt do a damn thing for him.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
This. It’s so easy to give yourself a Caesar. Especially when you’re black.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
my scalp will be shiny and wonderful..and if i can keep in decent shape, i’ll look younger and not be self conscious.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Been getting mine done by the same girl for about 8 years now. She’s mid-40′s but has huge boobs. I’ll take the age/boobs sacrifice.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Been getting mine done by the same girl for about 8 years now. She’s mid-40′s but has huge boobs. I’ll take the age/boobs sacrifice.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
The shampoo is the best by a woman bro. She’s leaning over you, titays in your face, soft hands….I could fall asleep. Best part of the haircut process.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
My mother’s dad still has hair in his 80′s. That’s good for me right?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:36 PM
McFly?! McFly!? Anyone home?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
How very metro of you.
What exactly is metro about that? The warm towel on the face has nothing to do with appearance, it just feels good.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
I pay ___ bucks and tip ___.
Hair secrets are called hair secrets for a reason.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
I’m blessed with full heads of hair on both sides of my family for many generations.
Better knock on wood. No male on either side going back generations has gone bald in my family. Yet I am. Go figure.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
The shampoo is the best by a woman bro. She’s leaning over you, titays in your face, soft hands….I could fall asleep. Best part of the haircut process.
Yup.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
it actually makes hair fall out, then tries to grow it back. i had a bottle of the foam stuff laying around for a while, afraid it would make it look worse and not fix it.
don’t think it did anything though, just lighten my wallet.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM
The shampoo is the best by a woman bro. She’s leaning over you, titays in your face, soft hands….I could fall asleep. Best part of the haircut process.
This guy gets it.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Wow nice double post on my part.
This too.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:38 PM
So true. Especially if they like you. Boobs become a wonderful neck pillow.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Regardless, you just traded a young center that had a lot of career left for a 1st, 3rd and a bottom 6 player. Thanks for making Columbus a lot fucking better. This is not good news for me.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Just joshin’ on the salon trip. I actually used to do the same thing, but then got tired of paying $35 + tip.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
John Clayton?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
This guy gets it. I keep my hair long but when I get my wig busted I go to the same chick I’ve been going to for 12 years. Mid 30′s, big boobs, good personality, and a damn good cut. It’s definitely not like i’m going to the dentist.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
/returns high five
Great Vinny article.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Especially if they like you.
This is key. You have to get friendly with them, make small talk. When they’re familiar with you, they’re not as careful to avoid any accident brushes against you.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Also good thing about being black: I don’t worry about going bald. I’ve shaved my head before and I don’t have the lumpy Greg Oden/Shane Battier thing going on, so if it does happen, I’m straight
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Are you a Senator?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Fuck you Flyers. Should of traded Carter to the Leafs.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 PM
yup. place i used to go to had the young, fresh out of hairstyling school ladies do the hair washing, learn how to do scalp massages.
been close to falling asleep many times.
the place also served alcohol which was awesome.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
re: haircuts
Don’t talk to me unless I talk to you. Hurry the fuck up and get me out of here. I have better things to do. I go to a barber who has me in and out in under 15 minutes and has a TV in the shop with sports, news or food on it. The faster he cuts my hair, the better his tip is. It’s usually a $16 cut, so I give him $20. He uses a straight razor to shave my neck and I get the talcum powder.
Women take too long and always want to talk. Leave me alone. I just want you to cut my hair.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
Versteeg to Fla.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
This could also describe visiting a strip club
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
If you intend to comb your hair–I part mine on the left and comb it across the top of my forehead–then you have to go to someone who uses scissors.
Are you a Senator?
I get my hair cut using scissors. I have the Josh Elliot hair-style.
/not nearly as good looking as Josh Elliot
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
John Clayton?
Not that far above the forehead. I don’t have a receding hairline.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 PM
Those recent grads are always looking to party.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Are you a Senator?
Not yet. Just someone who has nice hair, wants it to look good, and doesn’t want a buzz.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Not that far above the forehead. I don’t have a receding hairline.
So you have ‘bama bangs?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Yup. I don’t want much talk, do the mutual job, let me touch, and we’re good.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:44 PM
I would think you’d go to a woman since you’ve spent some time here ridiculing your girlfriend’s rack.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Fuck you Flyers. Should of traded Carter to the Leafs.
Basically, the Flyers are complete retards.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Barbers/hairstylist and bartenders. You gotta find a few you like and you’ll keep going back forever. I don’t mind the small talk bullshit.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Used to. I hate sitting in the chair for that long. This is much more efficient. Also, that one got the boot like 2 months ago. Stay up to speed with your fake internet friends and their relationships.
It’s summer. I’m roaming free. Made a minor mistake though and am going on a date with a co-worker tomorrow. Dipping the pen in the company ink is a no-no but I’ve been crushing on this one for a while and, well, what the hell ya know?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Yeah, but I’ve managed to close the deal with a bartender before. Doing so with the hairstylist seems like it would be a real challenge.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:49 PM
Giddy up.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:49 PM
Wait, what?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Never mind, I read bartender as barber, thought you were hooking up with old men. Carry on.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:50 PM
It’s summer. I’m roaming free. Made a minor mistake though and am going on a date with a co-worker tomorrow. Dipping the pen in the company ink is a no-no but I’ve been crushing on this one for a while and, well, what the hell ya know?
God Speed.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:50 PM
SCs peculiarities are very… peculiar. Do you know how many hot chick hair cutters there are in this city? Not to mention if you chat with them once or twice in the chair they’re ready to give you their phone number and meet out for a drink?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:50 PM
So you have ‘bama bangs?
Fuck no.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:51 PM
you gonna braid the leg hair to show off your grooming habits?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 PM
Hopefully he wipes instead of just jumping in the shower.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 PM
Wow, Columbus is getting serious! Yet another team to deal with in the West.
Hey SC, the rumour is that Vancouver’s minor league AHL team will be in Chicago. You’re going to be able to get very familiar with the Canucks – you much be excited about that.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 PM
It’s like Jerry with the maid. Am I paying her to cut my hair or am I paying her for sex?
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:53 PM
I’ve been there SC…no worries, have fun, get some.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Neck shave a must. I keep moving or my barbers do.. there are some crappy/slow ones. The ones I go to now are 15 or 16 and I usually give 20 for either.
1) must work efficiently… hate 30 minute haircuts
2) must put pressure with clippers, can’t stand when the clippers aren’t against my skin… I like it to be clean/neat/sharp etc
3) know when to talk and when I just want to sit and relax
Massage/shampoo aren’t necessary. Most times I just want to sit get and get a hair cut while I’m still on the clock and walked over when I got bored with work. Don’t like to talk too much.
4) also non-smoking barbers only. Stale cigarette breath in my face has happened once too often.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Holy shit, me too!!
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:54 PM
How QB’s like Flacco and McNabb (where’s Rush Limbaugh when I need him)made the top 100 over Eli is beyond ridiculous.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Been there, done that. Had a lot of fun, but didn’t end on the greatest terms usually. Something about them having to see me after I stopped liking them that way rubbed them wrong I guess. It did help the couple times when I messed around with girls that actually worked in our other buildings, so there wasn’t the daily interaction.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Male only barbers for me.
Anyone still in Pittsburgh… Don Cercone’s on Liberty in Little Italy. $10 haircut (was $8 when I first got there) and go across the street for a fresh-filled cannoli after.
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Plus, they give you their number the old fashioned way,
June 23rd, 2011 at 3:57 PM
I’ve got a two floor buffer, Beef. She works on the 3rd floor, I’m on the 1st. I see her maybe once a week or so. After careful analysis, it was a risk I was will to take.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Holy shit Hernia, how did you do that?
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:06 PM
What the fuck did you just do? I thought my eyes were fucking with me.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:16 PM
#HTuMbLe brag
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Apparently I missed something, because I’m not seeing anything different
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Different browsers support different HTML commands. I see it and am using firefox.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Thanks yysa, might need to check that out and feel included! haha
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Different browsers support different HTML commands. I see it and am using firefox.
Same here.
/IE is for chumps and old people.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 PM
It’s what I got at work asshole, lol
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:32 PM
It’s what I got at work asshole, lol
If you’re office doesn’t require you to use IE, then move to Firefox. It doesn’t crash, is much smoother, and has a better layout. And it’s free.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:33 PM
your office, not you’re.
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:34 PM
If you’re office doesn’t require you to use IE, then move to Firefox. It doesn’t crash, is much smoother, and has a better layout. And it’s free.
/team google chrome
//haven’t used IE since ’08
June 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 PM
Ok so I tried google chrome and didn’t see the flashing words, but now that i’m on firefox I see them. pretty damn cool.
June 23rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM
My sister is friends with Reggie’s girl, she watched the Oscars w/ her and Reggie. (My sister did an Old Navy commercial with her.) /Name dropping, maybe a little