Vancouver Riot Kissing Couple Identified: He’s Australian, She’s Canadian
The kissing couple that captured the internet’s heart yesterday in the aftermath of the Vancouver riots has been identified by Australia’s 9 News (via Atlantic Wire):
According to Australia’s 9 News, the young man is 29-year-old Scott Jones, of Perth, who has been living in Vancouver for about six months, and the woman is Alexandra Thomas, an environmental engineering graduate from the University of Guelph.
Jones’s mom had a hilarious quote about how she knew it was her son:
“I knew it was him because he doesn’t have a lot of clothes with him and he always puts on the same thing.
“I’d have to have my house flooded to get on the news, but he just has to kiss a beautiful girl,” she said.
Jones might want to get ready for the TV circuit next week after word of his heroism spreads around the web. Here’s what his dad told the Toronto Star:
“She had actually been injured,” Brett Jones told the Star Friday morning from his home in Perth, Australia. “She had been knocked down by a shield” from the riot police.
“He lay down next to her to comfort her. She was crying and he just kissed her to calm her down.”
What’s your guess, Today Show or Good Morning America? Letterman or Leno? There’s no Oprah to go on, so maybe he’ll be on Ellen Tuesday? [via Atlantic Wire]
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June 17th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
So she wasn’t getting raped?
If you can’t believe Bodybuilding.com/forum, who can you believe?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Humanized
June 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
I thought it was established that this photo was set up?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Humanized
We need a face-shot. She didn’t look nearly as good in the picture from another angle.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
/Big Ben’d
June 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
BWHAAHHAHAHAHA!!!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAD OATMEAL AFTER 3PM?!?!?!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
That dude is a pimp.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
can I LOL at this?
ATL, nobody established it was set up
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
he just kissed her to calm her down.
Start of a new trend!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
If you can’t believe Bodybuilding.com/forum, who can you believe?
Needs more brah, bro.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
“He lay down next to her to comfort her. She was crying and he just kissed her to calm her down.”
Then why is his hand up her skirt?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
+29g whey isolate protein
June 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
The Stephen A. Smith post disappeared faster than his TV show on ESPN.
/veal
June 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
her facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=120802654
June 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
“He lay down next to her to comfort her. She was crying and he just kissed her to calm her down.”
/Big Ben’d
Awesome, especially from Coop.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
ATL, nobody established it was set up
There was a photo on twitter with the two of them laying on the ground and the photographer and another guy pointing (standing right next to them/on top of them — not far away), as if they were telling them how to position themselves. I think someone linked to the photo in the comments here yesterday.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
I need to try this on the next attractive woman I see laying on the street.
On second thought, that’s a bad idea.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Australian eh? I don’t trust him.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
humanized!
also, this is a really cool story
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Hitting home runs while playing baseball = Hard evidence of cheating
This photo = Nothing established to suggest this was all a set-up
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
That wasn’t the photographer in the overhead pic, don’t know where you got that idea from.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Impressive journalism there. Could you next tell us about your well thought out and reasoned ideas for changing college football? I’m sure we all look forward to the discussion you’ll have with us about it in the comments.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
can we get a verdict on whether this photo is Iconic or not?
i say yes. Toronto Star referred to it as iconic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Braylon Edwards is putting 100 Cleveland HS kids through college? Wow. Props to that guy.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Creepy.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Looks Staged to me.
What’s the Mach Man have to say about that pic?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
That wasn’t the photographer in the overhead pic, don’t know where you got that idea from.
See butters comment. Looks like a photographer to me.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAD OATMEAL AFTER 3PM?!?!?!
LMAO. That site is a trip.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
can we get a verdict on whether this photo is Iconic or not?
Definitely. It’s up there with the sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square on V-J Day.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
can we get a verdict on whether this photo is Iconic or not?
i say yes. Toronto Star referred to it as iconic
Not if it was staged. Which it certainly looks like it was.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Suppose it is possible they were just random passersby watching a girl getting fingered on the street…I’d probably stop
June 17th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
No, no, and no. No one will give a rat’s ass about the Vancouver riots within the month It’s a cool photo, but if someone thinks this qualifies as “iconic”…well, they don’t know what it means to be “iconic”.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
it’s as iconic to the current generation as the sailor kissing his gf on VJ-day was for the greatest generation.
sums up those generations quite succinctly.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
ms621…great minds.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I like this angle better.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
/Michael Scott’d
June 17th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Meh, its no ass gif, or even boob gif.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
It might be a photographer, but it sure isn’t Rich Lam…who was on TV and most certainly looks nothing like either of the people standing there.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Iconic for this event. Also, not staged.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Verdict: WGAF
June 17th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Thanks, hadn’t watched that in awhile.
/gets zero work done for next ten minutes
June 17th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
missed all this Vancouver shit yesterday, videos are amazing, Vancouver however, needs to be eliminated
June 17th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
It might be a photographer, but it sure isn’t Rich Lam…who was on TV and most certainly looks nothing like either of the people standing there
Well.. is he some huge fat guy? Because you really can’t see their faces… Also, I don’t normally stand directly overhead some dude making out with a girl on the street with 2 of my friends. That’s just me though.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
This as well.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
or this boob gif and this ass gif.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Iconic should probably be reserved for something more historic than a riot after a hockey game. It is both the quality of the shot and the enormity of the historical event that adds up to Iconic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
This photo is iconic
So is this
June 17th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Iconic for this event.
That’s like saying a cool picture taken at a bar during a night out is iconic for that event. In order for a photo to be iconic it needs to be taken during a period that has something with a whole lot of meaning behind it that a lot of people can relate too. A bunch of hooligans destroying a city because their hockey team lost doesn’t qualify.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
No, no, and no. No one will give a rat’s ass about the Vancouver riots within the month It’s a cool photo, but if someone thinks this qualifies as “iconic”…well, they don’t know what it means to be “iconic”.
Turns out the dictionary of ‘iconic’ is lacking, but this is definitely a memorable picture. And whether the riots are remembered is not the point.
I bet the majority of individuals haven’t a clue of what is going on in this picture other than a soldier is apparently being shot.
Does the fact that the viewer does not know that the picture is from the Spanish Civil War matter? God no.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
My goodness. That is asstastic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Can a picture be iconic if someone like my mom will never see it?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
eh… no. just misses out.
nice shot, could have been made better if the photog was just 6 inches to the left.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:38 AM
It’s pretty iconic. I’d put two hipsters making out after a lost hockey game up there with guy standing in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square or a Vietcong man being shot in the head.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:38 AM
No one will give a rat’s ass about the Vancouver riots within the month
Except for the City of Vancouver and people all across America’s hat.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
he just saw the german condor legion coming over and decided to play dead?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
I prefer this version.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
It happened this week, so of course it’s iconic.
/Who’s now
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
For his own good I think Phil should try and miss the cut, this is painful
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Suppose it is possible they were just random passersby watching a girl getting fingered on the street…I’d probably stop
I don’t see where you guys are seeing this. It doesn’t look like his hand is anywhere near her hoo-ha. It’s up by her neck.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
I bet the majority of individuals haven’t a clue of what is going on in this picture other than a soldier is apparently being shot.
But in this picture the capture of a soldier dying is universal, you do not need to know which war, but civil protests are not on the level of emotion of war or armed rebellion. But if this picture was at Kent State or the 68 Chicago Dem convention, it rises above that level.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
i wet myself laughing.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
@ATL_Badger – your opinion doesn’t reflect the everyone else’s.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
@ATL_Badger – your opinion doesn’t reflect the everyone else’s.
Bold statement SC. Bold.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
But in this picture the capture of a soldier dying is universal, you do not need to know which war, but civil protests are not on the level of emotion of war or armed rebellion. But if this picture was at Kent State or the 68 Chicago Dem convention, it rises above that level.
Fair point.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
“I don’t see where you guys are seeing this. It doesn’t look like his hand is anywhere near her hoo-ha. It’s up by her neck.”
/stoma
June 17th, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Exactly. Too bad someone wasn’t there to set them on fire. That would have been iconic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
This is just turning into a “I don’t care about hockey therefore I will just rip on it” type discussion.
I’d rather read a BLS Business post at this point.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
He is stuffing an animal cracker in her hoo-ha.
/DONT WANNA CLOSSSSE MY EYES’d
June 17th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
I prefer this version.
Blirriant.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Exactly. Too bad someone wasn’t there to set them on fire. That would have been iconic.
Nice photoshop idea, have them next to the monk lighting himself on fire, My favorite so far is the one under a flying Bobby Orr
June 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
She’s into strangle-bation?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
This is just turning into a “I don’t care about hockey therefore I will just rip on it” type discussion.
No… it’s a “hockey riots aren’t comparable to Tienanmen Square/fights for democracy type discussion.”
June 17th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
DON’T WANNA STOMA SLEEP, CUZ I MISS YOU BABE!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
that’s auto-erotic asphyxiation, thankyouverymuch.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
That Screamin’ A. Smith/ESPN post disappeared quickly.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
She could shiver my timber any day…
June 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
No one is comparing it to that. Clown made a sarcastic joke.
Sometimes I hate you people.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
This is just turning into a “I don’t care about hockey therefore I will just rip on it” type discussion.
you jack’d every thread with hockey talk for 2 months, don’t think you should be whining…..RUUUUONGO!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
i think that’s the difference between the riot photo and most other iconic images.
the subjects in iconic photos transcends the event where they are captured…an iconic image will show the entire moment in a microcosm.
the flag raising on Iwo Jima, or the flag raising on the WTC, the planes impacting, the sailor and nurse kissing after WW2, the spanish soldier mentioned above being shot, the monks self immolating themselves in protest of Vietnam…
this doesn’t capture that riot. it’s an off shoot. a cool image the photographer should get props for spotting…but iconic…no.
the asian canucks fan is more iconic. yet, oddly full of what appears to be impotent rage.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Really? I mean, I suppose this was a bigger riot than normal, but I watched with my own eyes a lot of similar stuff happen after the Phillies won the WS. The destruction wasn’t on the same level, but it went into the millions of dollars…and I doubt anybody even gives it a 2nd thought 3 years later.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Hope it wasn’t my slow-pitch softball comment that got it yanked.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
/tightens belt one notch.
heaven.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
No… it’s a “hockey riots aren’t comparable to Tienanmen Square/fights for democracy type discussion.”
And yesterday Clown compared Bobby Orr to Brian Piccolo.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
This photo was staged.
/not iconic
June 17th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
hahahaha!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
This. Great point, Wilhelm. It doesn’t sum up the riot in the least…which is what an iconic image should do.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Really? I mean, I suppose this was a bigger riot than normal
There were constant references to the 1994 riots in Vancouver (after the Nucks lost to the Rangers in 7) during the playoffs.
Were the riots that big a deal? No, but not going to disappear from the national conscience anytime soon.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
sure it does…it sums it up that it was selfish and irresponsible and pointless.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Not bad.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Everyone has a different personal different definition of iconic. Glad we could sort that out in less than an hour.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
wouldn’t we need to see some destruction for that?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
This. Great point, Wilhelm. It doesn’t sum up the riot in the least…which is what an iconic image should do
Yep. What Wilhelm said.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
sure it does…it sums it up that it was selfish and irresponsible and pointless.
1. Selfish? They look like they’re enjoying themselves
2. Irresponsible? How do you know he didn’t have rubbers in his pocket
3. Pointless? Getting some action is never pointless.
/tongue in cheek’d
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
TBL, again, get your hands on Duffy’s dictionary and thesaurus.
Ironic? Yes. Iconic? Not really. Jarring? Astonishing? Memorable? Sure.
If staged? Lame.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
i don’t think so…much liek the famous pic of the vietcong spy getting shot (that was believed to be an innocent getting shot at first) that summed up the brutality of the region, this just shows that a riot that can have a couple people making out is pretty fucking stupid, even if they weren’t really making out.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
glad to see the dozens of dollars spent in photography classes and thousands spent on gear has paid off.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Which is actually an issue that’s overlooked as a contributing factor to these riots…agreed?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
@Ty_Webb – We talk about shit, piss, vomit, stomas, sex, food and about 10,000 other things here. Apologies for “jacking” threads with sports.
Get over it because it’s not stopping any time soon.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
This is an iconic comment.
/for this post
June 17th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
This is iconic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
@Ty_Webb – We talk about shit, piss, vomit, stomas, sex, food and about 10,000 other things here. Apologies for “jacking” threads with sports.
Get over it because it’s not stopping any time soon.
Take it easy SC. I don’t get where you think we’re bashing hockey. We didn’t call your kid ugly. If this was a riot after a Michigan State football loss we’d be saying the same thing.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
This is the biggest story in the history of Hockey.
/Cam’d
June 17th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Someone needs to track down the Facebook page of the dude in the photo setting the cop car on fire…use your stalker powers for good TBL
June 17th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
No. Some people know the definition and others do not.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
We need a hipster film student in here right now. Where’s TexansFan?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
This photo was staged.
/not iconic
I’ve read that before as well.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
fixed*
June 17th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
SC
Did you hear that the Rags wont be able to buy out the final year of Drury’s contract?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Which is actually an issue that’s overlooked as a contributing factor to these riots…agreed?
I’m not arguing whether it’s an iconic photo or not, not sure we can make that judgment today, have to see if it stands the test of time.
Though, anytime a Canadian team is the Stanley Cup finals, that picture is going to come up.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Not iconic. Hell, Lumbergh fucked her.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Nah, find the dude who was hit in the groin with the flash bomb.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
By the way wilhelm, well said.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
yep.
/Leafs in 2012
//Sobs
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Yes. Setting my sights on Reasoner and Madden now. Hoping Kruger can make the big club as well. Anything to avoid Sharp playing center.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
@Ty_Webb – We talk about shit, piss, vomit, stomas, sex, food and about 10,000 other things here. Apologies for “jacking” threads with sports.
Get over it because it’s not stopping any time soon.
For the record, I don’t mind the stoma threadjack…
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
The clubhouse at Congressional is absurd. Just saw an aerial shot. Christ that’s huge.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
We need a hipster film student in here right now. Where’s TexansFan?
I wasn’t under the impression that TexansFan was a hipster nor a film student. I thought in fact those two types of individuals were the bane of his existence.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
There were constant references to the 1994 riots in Vancouver (after the Nucks beat the Rangers in Game 6) during the playoffs. That was my memory of those riots, not after the loss in New York in game 7. I could be wrong though
June 17th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
$100k initiation fee will buy you that.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
there have been plenty of staged iconic photos, like this one for example.
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/wallpaper/photography/photos/milestones-photography/afghan-girl-portrait/
June 17th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Rory is fucking up this U.S. Open for me!!!!!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
$100k initiation fee will buy you that.
Dallas Country Club at Mockingbird and Preston is upgrading their clubhouse currently. They are basically building a huge fucking castle in the middle of the Park Cities.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
That was my memory of those riots, not after the loss in New York in game 7.
I was living in Vancouver at the time, pretty sure it was after Game 7. But it was a long time ago, could be wrong.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
I just spit my gum out on my monitor
June 17th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Is that it or are there other initiation practices that a new member must adhere to? Such as veteran members are allowed to peg you with their pitching wedges?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
the scene of the russians meeting around stalingrad was staged too.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Inside joke between mrejr, Texansfan and myself.
/Film Student Chris
June 17th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
lob wedge, actually.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
the scene of the russians meeting around stalingrad was staged too.
Still a pretty cool picture.
This one was also staged for propaganda.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Am I reading this correct… there have been 4 eagles so far in the US Open, and 3 of them have been on par 4′s?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Fair point…but that portrait would not be considered iconic if it turned out to be an Iranian girl with green contacts taken outside LA.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
well i’ll sleep better now knowing this
June 17th, 2011 at 12:03 PM
How much does my bosses shift suck? i just walked into his bosses office and asked for more work.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
*I’m in for my boss this week.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Forgot about that “Afghan Girl” photo, for some reason that always makes me emotional…
/no homo
June 17th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
I was living in Vancouver at the time, pretty sure it was after Game 7. But it was a long time ago, could be wrong.
Might have been both, I know the stories by the New York papers and Media was the city of Vancouver acted like they had won the cup after Game 6, that the ride to the airport was a scary one from the hotel.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
probably one of the penal battalions. first take got fucked, so they just sacrificed another platoon to get it right.
/joking, but not really that unbelievable
June 17th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
sand wedge… the extra 8 degrees of bounce is appreciated
June 17th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Golf’s version of the omnipotence paradox. Can Rory McIlroy build up a lead so big that even he could not lose it.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
jesus christ rory…stop embarassing everyone.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
exactly. in that photo, you almost feel her experience, it’s stunning, really.
i’ve seen an exhibit of the phographers other work, the guy is amazing.
yup, and it isn’t nearly as effective as the d-day photos that survived that day. very similar to the spanish civil war shot from earlier.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/40273/A-soldier-of-the-16th-Infantry-Regiment-kicks-through-the
June 17th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
It looks like numbers are out there today. Mostly it’s been the ones with crappy rounds yesterday doing it, but I’m sure some of the other leaders will put a 66/67/68 down to hang within shouting distance.
Some guy named Patrick Cantlay might shoot 29 on the back nine, so scoring is out there.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
probably one of the penal battalions. first take got fucked, so they just sacrificed another platoon to get it right.
/joking, but not really that unbelievable
The Russian military is really a bizarrely fascinating subject to study. The purge of officers by Stalin in 1936-38 in which 3 of the Red Army’s 5 Marshals, two-thirds of all army commanders, half of all divisional commanders, and one-quarter of all brigade commanders were removed from their position and most were executed.
In 1939, the Red Army promoted 479 officers to the rank of Major General to replace those listed above who were purged. It’s the greatest mass promotion in history.
I remember what Barbara Tuchman wrote about Tsarist Russia and it’s military inadequacy. The average Russian combines a sort of non-chalance with a complete fecklessness into what their French allies termed “Le Charme Slav”. It’s a country that seems western on the surface, but to the average westerner, makes absolutely no sense when viewed close up.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
behind TBL’s Adizero ad’s
June 17th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
yup, and it isn’t nearly as effective as the d-day photos that survived that day. very similar to the spanish civil war shot from earlier.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/40273/A-soldier-of-the-16th-Infantry-Regiment-kicks-through-the
Love that photo. Robert Capa had actually shot over 90 pictures, but when he got back to London later in the day, the photo tech–a photographer himself named Larry Burrows who would go on to fame as a war photographer in Vietnam–failed to monitor the film properly while they were drying and most of them burned up.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
behind TBL’s Adizero ad’s
Well played sir. Well played.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
i like how they can be on the ass end of so many just brutal beatings (charge of the light brigade, russo-japanese war, beginning of barbarossa, etc), but yet, when they get momentum, there isn’t a military force on earth that could’ve stood up to them.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
I always enjoy the history lessons doled out by mr. 621 and mr. 096
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Nevermind. Jesus christ Rory.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
i can’t even begin to touch ms621′s history knowledge. im a peon compared to him.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
/USopen.com live coverage, genuinely appreciated
June 17th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
yup, and what’s amazing is the photo, by all technical aspects is absolutely crap, still accurately captures what was going on. The blurred movements of the photographer not being able to set and get a good still image – it gives a frantic energy that everyone on that beach experienced. even though there are no explosions in the image, and the soldier is in knee deep water, it’s still a great struggle for life.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
A cut 4 iron, turning over to land on a 3 foot deep upslope to stop the momentum and trickle in towards the hole.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
While this is true…you bring a certain je ne sais qua to it…kind of like the badassoftheweek guy.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Larry Burrows was a pretty damn good photographer himself. Here’s one of his many famous shots from Vietnam: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/276274091_55c010eaf7_o.jpg
And another. Probably his most famous: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_gQBgxMboy5A/S6CNwGlzU4I/AAAAAAAAAYs/SklI85w-9Hc/LarryBurrows%5B5%5D.jpg
June 17th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
hah! i like it!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
While this is true…you bring a certain je ne sais qua to it…kind of like the badassoftheweek guy.
Agreed. Spencer always impresses me with his knowledge of things. And his weaving of curse words into virtually every comment. It’s quite the tapestry.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
First comes love. Then comes stoma-fucking. Careful, guys…
June 17th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
First comes love. Then comes stoma-fucking. Careful, guys…
Well way to spoil the mood.
/extinguishes candle.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Spencer, could you quit your day job to caddy for a professional golfer? I’m wondering what those guys make if they’re with bottom level pro golfers.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Spencer, could you quit your day job to caddy for a professional golfer? I’m wondering what those guys make if they’re with bottom level pro golfers.
At least 10% of what the golfer earns in the tournament is what I’ve always heard. I could be way off though. Spencer would know.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
it’s typically 10% of the golfer’s earnings, and if you’re on tour, that’s a pretty decent living, if you don’t mind the grind and travel.
i would totally do it and i think id be a pretty badass caddy…just don’t have the connections needed. wish i kept caddying back in HS…regret the hell out of that.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Here you go, SG
June 17th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
caddies can also get their own endorsement deals…like stevie williams and valvoline for example.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
was it a man candle?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
How do these guys pick their caddys? I know some of guys have earned a reputation as a good caddy get hired by guys, but are any others just buddies of the pros?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too
June 17th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
I think there is also a minimum if your player misses the cut. The hard part is that you really would have to quit your day job, because its a 6-day a week job, and you have to really be good at learning new courses, and particularly the grain on the greens. It’s amazing to me how much work goes into these guys consistently making 15 foot putts, with such a small margin of error.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
buddies, professional reputation, brothers/cousins, etc.
a lot of the younger guys have buddies. dustin johnson just fired a friend of his and hired fred couples’ old caddy.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
absolutely…gotta be precise with yardages, know the rules and be a on-course psychologist too. that’s tough stuff.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
good reads on being a caddy.
1. 2.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
You know I’ve always wanted to be a golf club…
June 17th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
@ms621
incredible images, keep’em coming…
/took day off to drink and watch Open, Rory is skull fucing me
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
I’m pretty good at yardages, but I have too many mental lapses to be a caddy. If you forget something and cost a stroke or a penalty, there goes your job.
I’m guessing those aren’t linked to excerpts of Rick Reilly’s book???
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
So would a caddy be able to go out and golf the course a few days before a tournament or is that not allowed? I don’t know how you would be able to learn all these courses if you were a younger guy.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
fucing = fucking
June 17th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
nope…shane bacon (does stuff at yahoo’s golf blog) caddied for an LPGA’er recently and wrote about it.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Still needs the weekend. I’m not crowning him too much when half the field hasn’t teed off for their second rounds. If that eagle had gone in though, I’d have started carving his name on the trophy.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
well you go out on practice rounds before a tourney with your pro so you’d get your shit set up then. like the caddy would get yardages from landmarks from various landing points and read the whole greens while the player thinks about how he wants to attack a hole and practices a variety of shots.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Still needs the weekend. I’m not crowning him too much when half the field hasn’t teed off for their second rounds. If that eagle had gone in though, I’d have started carving his name on the trophy.
no crown yet, but definite lack of intrigue
June 17th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
it’s getting much harder to say he’s gonna choke when he’s getting close to a 10 shot lead…i can’t wait to start watching.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
ATL – over/under on Prince Fielder fat taunts at Fenway this weekend? I say – not enough!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
@ms621
incredible images, keep’em coming…
You got it. Another Robert Capa: http://www.skylighters.org/photos/photo1.jpg
I like that one because of how real and unfiltered it feels. Now that we’ve all seen Saving Private Ryan we know how many soldiers were cut down on the beaches just as they were getting ashore. Knowing that there are Germans immediately in front of these soldiers is pretty scary. It takes the abstraction of the “front line” and makes it real. These guys ARE the front line as they advanced ashore.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
No streaming coverage Spence? Bummer.
I don’t know if anyone uses it, but google earth is REALLY helpful. If the course is in an area that is well-mapped, you can basically map out the whole course. I’ve done it with a few in Nashville, and having some printouts with yardages is worth a few strokes even to golfers like me.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
So that 10 stroke rule isn’t expanding the cut field today, huh?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
no streaming, but bout to hit up the conf room where we got a big flat screen.
ms621…you seen restrepo? the whole time i was thinking the journalists embedded in there were kindred spirits with the war reporters from normandy and guadalacanal/iwo jima/etc.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
fucking phil is off the reservation
June 17th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
And here’s a picture of Larry Burrows crossing a stream with a group of soldiers: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0302/images/faas_burrows/12.jpg
And another great photo: http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/LIFPOD/1270106.jpg
Soldiers in Vietnam liked Burrows because they felt he tried to capture their image in a compassionate light.
Interestingly both Burrows and Capa died in Southeast Asia. Capa was killed when he stepped on a land mine in Vietnam in 1954 while covering the French intervention there. Burrows was killed in a helicopter crash in Laos in 1971.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
this one is amazing, and it’s completely unintentional, you can’t see where they are actually going, you just know most are marching off to their death. the symbolism that can be taken from this photo is insane.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
wow.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I like that one because of how real and unfiltered it feels. Now that we’ve all seen Saving Private Ryan we know how many soldiers were cut down on the beaches just as they were getting ashore. Knowing that there are Germans immediately in front of these soldiers is pretty scary. It takes the abstraction of the “front line” and makes it real. These guys ARE the front line as they advanced ashore.
knowing that for every 10 men you send ashore only a couple will make it is a depreesing thought, can’t even begin to imagine what it felt like to be there
June 17th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Even when Rory hits a bad shot he ends up in the part of the rough that’s been trampled by the gallery. Guy is on fire.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
on a similar hopeless feeling theme, could you imagine being the ranger platoon that climbed the steep cliffs on rope ladders while getting shot at only to find there were only a handful of germans up there and it was a total ploy?
just heartbreaking.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
ms621…you seen restrepo? the whole time i was thinking the journalists embedded in there were kindred spirits with the war reporters from normandy and guadalacanal/iwo jima/etc.
I haven’t yet. But I’ve heard great things. A lot of journalists did get on well with the soldiers they covered. Ernie Pyle was revered by soldiers in Europe and the Pacific. And when he was killed in April 1945 on the island of Ie Shima, an island off Okinawa, soldiers of the 77th Infantry Division gave him a burial with full honors.
The mistrust of journalists in the war zone picked up in the aftermath of Vietnam though as many people feel that the way the war was covered changed American opinion, especially in the aftermath of the Tet Offensive in 1968, and the relationship between the two has been a little sour ever since then. The Pentagon’s restrictions on journalists in the war zone hasn’t helped either.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
neither has journalism’s inability to respect “operational security.”
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
knowing that for every 10 men you send ashore only a couple will make it is a depreesing thought, can’t even begin to imagine what it felt like to be there
This will depress you a bit then. One of the first American units ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day was Company A, of the 116th Infantry Regiment which was part of the 29th Division. The 29th was originally a National Guard unit from Virginia and Maryland. So the units in the division consisted mostly of guys from the same town or locale. Company A came almost exclusively from the town of Bedford, Virginia. So virtually every male of military age from Bedford was part of the first wave at Omaha.
Company A suffered 90% casualties on June 6. So in one morning, virtually 90% of the male, military population of Bedford, Virginia was wiped out.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Capa also took this one. From the Spanish Civil War.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Respect what now?
/Geraldo Rivera
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Fucking Sergio is in the clubhouse tied for 3rd, but 11 shots off…
June 17th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
neither has journalism’s inability to respect “operational security.”
Yes that too.
*cough* Geraldo *cough*
June 17th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
christ almighty, that’s horrible.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
read the book “war”, too. detailed the recent MOH recipient’s battle, author was there.
also, the camera man for Restropo was just killed in Libya i think, a few weeks ago.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
also, the camera man for Restropo was just killed in Libya i think, a few weeks ago.
Yes he was. He was killed in Misarata (sp?) by an RPG.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
yep…killed when qaddafi shelled misrata.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Also, this. No Capa, but one of –if not the very first– widely disseminated photos of dead Americans from WWII.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Also, this. No Capa, but one of –if not the very first– widely disseminated photos of dead Americans from WWII.
You are correct. I believe those are the very first pictures from WWII showing dead American soldiers which the OWI allowed to be published.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
that was a big first, showing the dead while the war was going on. That was Tarawa, wasn’t it?
i’m fascinated by 20th century warfare. reading “the first world war” by john keegan now. enlightening to see the tiny details how the war started and how tactical errors in war plans for both sides led to the trench warfare.
next up: The Pacific War, by author can’t remember.
for good war fiction, check out Matterhorn. read that last summer, incredible.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
oh and the pure killing machines invented where there wasn’t any countermeasures. the tank, the machine gun, artillery. christ almighty.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
I think that was Buna, Wilhelm.
I remember seeing that picture when I was really little, in a big book of Life Magazine photos that my parents owned. I still have it somewhere–the Margaret Bourke-White shots of America in the Depression are unbelievable.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Hell, the longbow. The stirrup.
/Agincourt ftw
June 17th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Anyone wants to keep this thread going all day, fine with me.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
yup. it doesn’t get the ink that WWII does, but you begin to undertsand WWII much better once you dig into the first world war.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
second’d
June 17th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
that was a big first, showing the dead while the war was going on. That was Tarawa, wasn’t it?
i’m fascinated by 20th century warfare. reading “the first world war” by john keegan now. enlightening to see the tiny details how the war started and how tactical errors in war plans for both sides led to the trench warfare.
next up: The Pacific War, by author can’t remember.
I believe it was Lae in New Guinea, but I’m not positive.
I’ve read both the First World War and The Second World War by John Keegan. Though he doesn’t have a PhD, he is an excellent writer. But he writes from a very British/Eurocentric point of view.
Even though he ran into controversey in his later years, Stephen Ambrose writes excellent American history and his books “D-Day” And “Citizen Soldiers” are fantastic. My copies of both are thoroughly dog eared and worn from re-reading.
If you want to read a book about the socio-political-military events which built up to World War I, I highly suggest “Dreadnought” by Robert K. Massie. He too is an excellent writer. His history is based more on accounts, personalities, etc. but is very fascinating. He puts a human face on the events which led to war.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Hell, the longbow. The stirrup.
/Agincourt ftw
The importance of the stirrup cannot be understated in talking about the development of mobile armies in military history. John Keegan covers this very well in his “A History of Warfare”.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
The Wife and I visited the WWI memorial/museum the last time we visited our friends in Kansas City. I could have spent three days there.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
interesting, i’ll have to keep that in mind. It normally takes me a long time to get through non fiction, it’s my bathroom reading or bed time reading.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
interesting, i’ll have to keep that in mind. It normally takes me a long time to get through non fiction, it’s my bathroom reading or bed time reading.
I’ll warn you, it’s around 800 pages. But I wasn’t able to put it down. Reading about young Winston Churchill in it is great. And Britain’s First Sea Lord (equivalent to the U.S.’s Chief of Naval Operations) prior to WWI, Jacky Fisher, was a fascinating individual.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
yeah, some history writers have a knack for the narrative, others write like they are lecturing and you do fall asleep halfway through a paragraph.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
just started To The White Sea by James Dickey
fiction: WW2 gunner goes down in Tokyo, works his way through the countryside
June 17th, 2011 at 1:53 PM
that sounds like my kind of book.
assuming you have read thin red line and naked and the dead?
June 17th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
NOW THATS THE KIND OF WOMAN THAT I WANT ! ONE OF THE ANGELS WILL FALL OUT OF THE SKY RIGHT INTO MY ARMS SOMEDAY MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
June 17th, 2011 at 8:00 PM
If you want to read a book about the socio-political-military events which built up to World War I, I highly suggest “Dreadnought” by Robert K. Massie.
Is it better as an introduction to WWI than “The Guns Of August”?
June 21st, 2011 at 5:19 PM
Where is Steven A. Smith?