Lots of Fair Weather NFL Fans Out There
The NFL has pretty consistently been rated as the most popular sport over the last two decades, with close to 50% of all adults (high: 55% in 1998, low: 46% in 1993) rating themselves as following professional football, according to Harris Poll data going back to 1992. What hasn’t been consistent, though, is how individual teams have ranked in terms of popularity over that span. I estimate that almost half the people who identify themselves as a follower of professional football either switch loyalties, or become a fan of team after they become good.
If team fanbases were largely loyal and established fans from the geographic area, then we would see generally consistent polling data, with variations only due to polling sample size error (+/- 3% for the NFL team popularity polls). That’s not what we see, though.
I went back through the Harris Poll reports, which began in 1992. (1994, 2000, and 2001 are missing entirely). I made a request of Harris for more specific data, but never heard back, so I made due with what was available. Prior to 1998, the Harris Poll report showed specific percentages by team. From 1999-2002, they still showed specific percentages, but the question asked respondents to identify their two favorite NFL teams, so that the numbers increased across the board. From 2003 onward, the reports only provided the ordinal rankings of teams, so that I can tell you where each franchise ranked relative to the others, but could not see the specific data on the percentage for each team.
To try to estimate some numbers for those years when either I had specific numbers but the question asked for two teams, or when I only had rankings, I compared the average percentage for each spot in the rankings, then assumed a similar distribution breakdown in the years when I didn’t have specific numbers.
If we look at the lowest rating each franchise had during that span, we would see that every franchise but Dallas has been at 3% or lower in at least one season over the last 19 years; 19 of them have been below 1% at least once. If we add all those minimums up, we get only 32.1% of fans. Of course, we have sampling error with any one particular year, so that is an extreme example.
So I looked at the 25th percentile season of popularity for each franchise, figuring one or two low years could be sampling error, but if we consistently see a team at 1% for a five year stretch, that’s probably a good indication of the true value. By looking at something like the 25th percentile, I’m trying to discount those seasons when the team may become more popular due to on-field success. When I look at the 25th percentile in popularity rank for each franchise, the total percentages for all 32 teams add up to about 55% of the fans. That’s why I say the number could be almost half of all self-identified fans of football being “fair weather” fans.
Does that sound high? well, I will give you some examples:
- The Super Bowl winners received about a 4% bump in being identified as a fan’s favorite team, on average, and slightly higher if we discount the repeat champs (who already received their bump and then held steady with another title). We are not as big on the losers though, as the Super Bowl runner-up saw about a 1% increase in popularity the year after;
- Dallas has the highest numbers most years, but those numbers have fluctuated from over 20% of all fans in the Super Bowl years to below 10% in the Quincy Carter/Chad Hutchinson years;
- Green Bay is one of the most popular teams, right? Well, they have also been one of the winningest teams consistently over the last 19 years (2 losing seasons in that span). From 1992-1996, they consistently polled as the favorite team for only 2-3% of fans. So that’s right, in their one Super Bowl year prior to this one, they were not really popular until after they won it. The next year, they shot up to 13% and stayed near 10% or above for a while. Then, when they actually had a losing season in 2005, the numbers were cut in half. They just rebounded last year and will likely shoot up again;
- Pittsburgh is another popular team. Well, from 1992-1994, in what would not be a down period for most franchises but was pretty ordinary by Steeler standards, they were the favorite team for about 3% of fans. Those numbers doubled through the Super Bowl appearance and the playoffs of the late 90′s, but declined again to around 3% during the Kordell Stewart/Tommy Maddox experience. Since Roethlisberger became QB, the popularity numbers doubled following the 15-1 season, and doubled again following the Super Bowl win the next year. Pittsburgh has been the favorite team of about 9% of respondents since 2005, and about 4% before 2005. Over half of those identifying themselves as Pittsburgh fans probably didn’t feel the anguish of Neil O’Donnell to Larry Brown.
- New England was never above 3% before the Belichick era. They were still below 3% in September 2003, after winning a surprise Super Bowl but then missing the the playoffs the next year. The peak season was actually the poll in September 2008, following the 16-0 year, and not during the Super Bowl winning teams. That means, of course, that there were more self-identified Pats fans during the one season that Matt Cassel was quarterback than any with Tom Brady starting;
- The Saints saw three times as many people claim them as the favorite team, compared to any other time over the last 19 years;
- Then there’s Indianapolis. Somewhere around 8% of respondents since 2006 identify the Colts as their favorite team, whereas that number was less than 2% before 2006, and less than 1% before Peyton Manning became a Colt.
Not all teams fluctuate as much. My team, Kansas City, has pretty much been consistent over this entire time, with one of the lowest standard deviations in year to year polling. Then again, they haven’t exactly been a very accomplished group that has made any runs that would garner temporary support. Others have seen slow declines in popularity after really extended periods of losing, whether it be the 49ers going from being among the most popular a decade ago, to still among the top 12 but not as high, or Detroit and Buffalo after really rough stretches.
I guess it’s not controversial to say that we love winners. I was kind of shocked to see how ephemeral as it was, and that the numbers fluctuated so greatly. Some fans who adopt a team when they are good go on to stick with that team later on. We see that with Dallas, who was consistently good throughout the late 1960′s and 1970′s and built up a following as “America’s team”, one which has largely remained as the largest fan base even though it has fluctuated greatly depending on success. We may see the same with Packers or Steelers today. Certainly not every new fan changes loyalties after they attach to a team, even if they were initially drawn by the bright lights of championships.
Still, the polling data from the last nineteen years show that true, consistent team loyalty is not nearly as large as I would have thought. Those numbers would honestly concern me if I were the NFL and trying to assess the long term impact of a work stoppage. The hard core loyal fans probably aren’t going away, even if they grouse and complain. Those that switch loyalties and root for the best teams may also be the kind that will more likely switch to another sport in the future if it becomes cool to do so.
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May 31st, 2011 at 4:06 PM
I’ve been a Vikings fan my whole life, there ain’t a damn thing fair weather about that.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:07 PM
I’ve been a Vikings fan my whole life
I’m sorry.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:07 PM
Giggity
May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Seriously. Fuck That entire area.
/except CJ
May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 PM
I think the biggest group of fans the NFL can lose from a work stoppage are females. Seems like women have taken more of an interest in football the last decade.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 PM
go browns.
/sobs uncontrollably
May 31st, 2011 at 4:10 PM
I’ll gladly show my 1995 5-11 Patriots video Yearbook to anyone who thinks I’m a fairweather Pats fan.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Anyone else disappointed with Gettysburg last night? Was expecting a little bit more and didn’t like the singluar person profiles.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Burn in hell dickface! I will never forget that game, I was the only Steeler fan at a party with 90% Cowgirl fans. I wanted to go to Pittsburgh and kill that bitch myself, the Steelers were clearly the better team that year.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Seriously. Fuck That entire area.
/sees Bruins memorabilia with tags still attached
//agrees
///stills hopes they beat the Canucks
May 31st, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Lisk… it’s a Harris poll. This is like relying on Exit Polls for election data.
We didn’t have the greatest medical data yet either. Half the state and fanbase was dying of heart disease. That should explain the skew.
And let’s be realistic, not all of us are diehard fans to the point of masochism. If the product sucks, why am I and would I continue to watch it? So that someone doesn’t call me a shitty fan? Rubbish.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:11 PM
I’m surprised the Broncos love has waivered. I would have thought that area would never leave that team.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:13 PM
Any pre-Red Zone numbers are irrelevant. No one can resist it.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:13 PM
and to be fair, NY didn’t even know the Jets existed until 1998. Everywhere except Suffolk County is Giants country.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:13 PM
I’m surprised the Broncos love has waivered. I would have thought that area would never leave that team.
When’s the last time they won a playoff game? (I’m generally curious, not trying to be a smart ass)
May 31st, 2011 at 4:13 PM
You would have been better off going to Arizona.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Plummer took them to the afc title game in what 05?
May 31st, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Some people taking it personally up in here. I don’t question your credentials as a fan. And by “your” I am in fact talking directly to you.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:16 PM
I forget, but Denver is all about the Broncos. Even when the Avs were good Broncos news trumped all (from what I’ve read)
May 31st, 2011 at 4:16 PM
I’ve been a Browns fan since day 1 and I curse my father for that every year
May 31st, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Plummer took them to the afc title game in what 05?
Really? Huh… the last one I specifically remember them winning was the win over the Patriots in Denver. I think the Patriots were heavily favored in that game… but I thought that was earlier than ’05.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:17 PM
it’ll pay off one of these days…and when it does IT’LL TOTALLY BE WORTH IT.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Played in the AFC Championship 2005-06 season.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Nope, that was 05. Denver beat the Pats (thanks!) then Big Ben came to town and put up like 28 in the first half. Ring #1 followed.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Now why would you go and say something stupid like that?
Been a Seahawks fan for many years, though I doubt they’ve ever gone above 3 % in all their years of existence.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:18 PM
I’m not seeing how this post is very surprising to anyone. Most people commenting here will have been loyal to the same teams their whole lives because they are die hard fans, the casual ones will always gravitate to the good teams no matter the sport.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:18 PM
trust me, growing up in Wisconsin and having to see half of every town I would go to sporting black leather packer jackets has been quite the punishment.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Nope, that was 05. Denver beat the Pats (thanks!) then Big Ben came to town and put up like 28 in the first half. Ring #1 followed
Thanks. Memory=jogged.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:18 PM
If the product sucks, why am I and would I continue to watch it? So that someone doesn’t call me a shitty fan? Rubbish.
/notices that the Blackhawks had lower average attendance than the Thrashers over the past 10 years
//nods
May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Anyone else disappointed with Gettysburg last night? Was expecting a little bit more and didn’t like the singluar person profiles.
I watched about half. It was fine, but didn’t really give a coherent timeline of events. Personal stories are fine, but when it muddles the story of the overall battle, the whole project loses steam.
And from the looks of it, I’d say that whoever direct “America: The Story of Us” got this job and said “Hey, let me see how much video game level violence I can add to a documentary before people will think it’s too much”.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 PM
The good thing about being a Vikings fan is that NOBODY will every call you a bandwagon fan.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 PM
you’re in the wrong place then. I demand to see everyone’s fan credentials semi-annually.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 PM
I just like calling you dickface any time you bring up a bad memory, lol
/Steelers do have waaaaaaaay too many fair weather fans
May 31st, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Now why would you go and say something stupid like that?
I picked the Canucks in 6. But I certainly don’t have to like it.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:20 PM
I did.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Wasn’t that because of a gripe with ownership or some shit?
/really doesn’t care
//go Blue Jackets
///cries
May 31st, 2011 at 4:20 PM
I liked what I saw of it, but didn’t catch the whole thing. I love about any Civil War type stuff though, so I was pretty entertained.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:21 PM
i didn’t like how they called the union “the enemy” when talking about shit from the confederate point of view. just seemed…off.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Whatdaya mean, some people.
Sham PI call in that game and Bailey’s fumble should have been a touchback by Watson’s hustle play but whatever.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:21 PM
If you are a Viking fan and you own one of these I most certainly will call you a bandwagon fan. or a hillbilly star fucker.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 PM
No… couldn’t have been, because Pats won in 01/03/04 and missed playoffs in 02 because Brett Favre couldn’t beat Chad Freaking Pennington.
/Technically, the refs beat NE, not Plummer
//still bitter
May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Oops. Proper linked.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 PM
/cries into Cris Carter jersey
May 31st, 2011 at 4:23 PM
i didn’t like how they called the union “the enemy” when talking about shit from the confederate point of view. just seemed…off.
/spits
They are the enemy.
/spits again.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:23 PM
The good thing about being a Vikings fan is that NOBODY will every call you a bandwagon fan.
Same for the Jaguars. Guessing they were 32nd.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
Fair enough. You have a new “old” nemesis to pick on now though, with the Winnipeg whatever you call them back. That should be fun.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
I’m thinking about a follow up ranking of the size of the fan bases while trying to account for team performance. For example, Colts are currently in top 4 for most fans saying they are the favorite team, but I don’t think that survives an 8 win season or Manning retiring.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a bad call. but whatever.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
I’m surprised Pats peaked AFTER that spygate bullshit that wasn’t any diff than what anyone else was doing unless they actually watched it at halftime and made adjustments…
/it’s real to me, damnit
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
DICKFACE!!
May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 PM
This. I thought it was okay too, but the way they were hyping it up made it seem like it was going to be epic.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 PM
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a bad call. but whatever.
Easy there, cowboy.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 PM
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a
badcorrect call.OR
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a bad
callrule./take your pick
//good point though
May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Sham PI call in that game and Bailey’s fumble should have been a touchback by Watson’s hustle play but whatever.
I don’t think we want to go down this road of comparing things that went for or against the Patriots in the playoffs.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:26 PM
This. I thought it was okay too, but the way they were hyping it up made it seem like it was going to be epic.
Marketing people did a good job. The modern music was a unique touch.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:26 PM
You have a new “old” nemesis to pick on now though, with the Winnipeg whatever you call them back. That should be fun.
Can’t really be considered a rivalry if one side never wins. More like a stepping stone.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:26 PM
did you seriously just try to bribe me with greenbacks?
May 31st, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Yeah, such a bad call it’s still in the rulebook, but whatever.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:27 PM
This. I thought it was okay too, but the way they were hyping it up made it seem like it was going to be epic.
They were clearly trying to make it epic, but as I said too many personal stories make the whole thing muddled. It’s too bad too because tactically and strategically Gettysburg is one of the most interesting battles of the war.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:27 PM
+1 middle finger at Black and Yellow country
/whoever played that for the Bruins needs to DIAF
May 31st, 2011 at 4:27 PM
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a bad correct call.
OR
The entire Patriots dynasty swung on a bad call rule.
/take your pick
//good point though
This. Pats fans should have to endure about 10 terrible calls in the playoffs to make up for the 1 that gave them a Super Bowl.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Same for the Jaguars. Guessing they were 32nd.
pretty good guess. Of course, what I glean from this is that if the Jags turn into the next dynasty all this stuff will disappear. Colts were in the bottom quarter in the 1990′s. Tampa Bay’s numbers were non-existent until the late 90′s.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:28 PM
I agree, but I guess my “but whatever” was not a strong enough indication that I didn’t.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Jumped on the Bengals bandwagon when they made the Super Bowl in 1989. Been uphill ever since!
/said no one
May 31st, 2011 at 4:29 PM
It let them sustain a late drive in a divisional game but whatever.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Married a Packers fan who has the audio of Desmond Howards kick return on CD, and 1996 Packers posters on the wall.
/did my penance
May 31st, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Well done on the caption.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Look. I hate both of those teams, and no one outside of Pittsburgh thought the Steelers were better than those Cowboys. The talk before the game was how bad they were going to get run up on; the overall closeness was the surprise.
I missed that line in the piece–I mean, while the ol’ Broncomania ain’t quite what it was when our neighbors painted their lawn orange, they’ve still had consecutive sellouts since ’72 (second behind Redskins).
Shatner’s right. There’s not really a close second around here. We’re 500 miles from the two nearest major population centers, which are Salt Lake and KC. We trend to the provincial.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:32 PM
what I glean from this is that if the Jags turn into the next dynasty all this stuff will disappear.
Gabbert is the answer!
/sips kool-aid
May 31st, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Is it that huge one with the team photo in the middle and individual player shots spliced elsewhere? Still got that one rolled up in a closet somewhere
May 31st, 2011 at 4:33 PM
I missed that line in the piece–I mean, while the ol’ Broncomania ain’t quite what it was when our neighbors painted their lawn orange, they’ve still had consecutive sellouts since ’72 (second behind Redskins).
Denver got a slight bump in popularity immediately at the time of the SB years, but it didn’t go up as much as others and they have been pretty consistent, like KC. Probably has something to do with the regional thing, because both have the greatest distance to another rival in the league.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Not surprised more Saints “fans” appeared out of the woodwork. Fact is this is the team’s best run ever.
Still, I know of people who said they were Dolphins, Cowboys and even Browns fans who then started wearing black and gold when things turned around. A pox on them!
May 31st, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Glorious tears. And no, no touchback. Need conclusive video evidence of ball in field of play to overturn, which did not exist.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Really? Did the refs create the 5 NE turnovers? Patriots couldn’t hold onto the ball and Denver capitalized it.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Lifelong Bengals fan. So, uhh, yeah.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:36 PM
That’s impressive for Washington. I have no feelings either way about the Skins, but anyone under 30 (like myself) sees that franchise as a train wreck. Good enough to make a couple playoff games, never good enough to win them, putting stock in crappy QBs and overrated coaches, and busting draft picks, stubbornly trying to put bandaids on gashes instead of bottoming out and rebuilding.
/reminds me of Jacksonville (sorry, Geeez… nothing against Jags either since I’m only a Titans observer, not a fan, and I hate the Colts)
May 31st, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Lifelong Bengals fan. So, uhh, yeah.
We will never doubt you or Geezeus.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:36 PM
I’ve been a Browns fan since day 1 and I curse my father for that every year
Change Browns to Bills and I’m with you there.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Which is why the NFL needs to install cameras on goalines and down each sideline, but whatever.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:38 PM
Nope, just all the players in varying charicatures all over the page. Including a lot of guys I didn’t remember…
/Proud I was able to pick out the Packers backup TE (the one who didn’t have a thing for underage girls) without cheating
May 31st, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Jags fans are a dirty bunch.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Been a Jets fan since I was ten (95). I’m also an alcoholic, so…
May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 PM
Shit… even I (big Pats fan) hope the Bills can string a few wins together this season (also liking staying with Fitzpatrick instead of drafting a project).
May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 PM
I feel like I’m becoming a Lions fan but I’ll figure it out after next season. For now I’m a lifelong Packers fan
May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 PM
Bills, Bengals, Browns & Lions fans have to have it the worst. At least Cardinals fans live in Arizona
May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 PM
I’m sorry I can’t help it, but it’s a disease!
I’m surprised the Broncos love has
waiveredwaveredMay 31st, 2011 at 4:40 PM
I keep trying to re-write my crackpot theories on why the Cowboys were so popular and why the Redskins always sell out and erasing them, so let’s just try:
Cowboys: better than the ’60s/’70s Falcons and Saints, cheerleaders, J.R. Ewing, Tex Schramm.
Redskins: politicians like football games.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
What, the Keyshawn/Kyle Brady receiving dynasty didn’t work out?
Apparently Belichick wanted to make Brady a Cleveland Brown the pick after NYJ (according to wiki)
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Re: Gettysburg
Dawes was only 24, and a Lt. Kernel leading those guys.
Can someone explain the “colors” thing? After 8 guys were gunned down, I am pretty sure I would have said “fuck it” kept my rifle in my hand.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
That was my first big sports heartbreak. I’ve live in California practically my whole life, and have no clue why I’ve always been a Steelers fan.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Harris needs to make sure they only poll people that watch the Red Zone channel on Sunday. That would give us more accurate numbers of the “casual” fanbase.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Ah yes, the Other Keith Jackson. Legend. Took his Super Bowl ring and retired after that season along with Sean Jones…they were missed the following season
May 31st, 2011 at 4:42 PM
I have no feelings either way about the Skins, but anyone under 30 (like myself) sees that franchise as a train wreck
FWIW, they are generally listed at or near the top of “most valuable NFL franchises”
May 31st, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I realize now that I misspoke: there *was* a good angle on that shot, from the overhead cam, and it did not provide sufficient evidence to overturn. One might say, even, that the right call was made.
In any case, that’s not why your team lost, but I do love the whinyness.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Redskins: politicians like football games.
Also, before Atlanta/New Orleans joined NFL in 1966/67, Washington was southernmost team and was the most popular team in Virginia, the Carolinas down to Florida.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:44 PM
excellent work, sir
May 31st, 2011 at 4:46 PM
SHIT. Sorry.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:48 PM
I assume that was done with a bromesian purpose.
If one were full of shit, yes. Refs using “not enough video evidence” crutch on replay is a shitty problem in officiating right now, but whatever.
No but it was part of it, along with some other horrid calls and NE’s turnovers.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Re: Gettysburg
Dawes was only 24, and a Lt. Kernel leading those guys.
Can someone explain the “colors” thing? After 8 guys were gunned down, I am pretty sure I would have said “fuck it” kept my rifle in my hand.
Officers, especially ones of social standing (i.e. from prominent families) were often younger back then. Some regiments still elected their officers for fixed periods of time. Others were appointed by army and corps commanders. It depended usually on rather the unit was Regular Army or a state raised militia (as many of them were). If you ever watched “Glory” it’s not a coincidence that they chose Matthew Broderick to play a Union Army colonel three years after he played a high school senior in “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”. The actual Col. Robert Gould Shaw was only 26 when he was killed in 1863 at Fort Wagner.
The colors: at that time when units attacked in formations, in the smoke and confusion of the battlefield, the colors (or regimental flags if you prefer) were often the only way for commanders to know where their units were going and for the soldiers to know where to go to. They were a rallying point and as such were highly important to the unit. So it was not at all uncommon for the color bearer to get killed fairly quickly but it was equally as common for other soldiers to immediately go and take them up for this purpose.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:54 PM
If not for a garbage Deion Branch 70-some yard very late in the game, this one isn’t even close. Patriots just played bad all game. Denver played the field position game and won doing so.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:56 PM
Thank you mr. 621
And fuck that Rickels or Sickels guy who broke formation. He nearly had me hating black people.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Babar, another thing to mention. Battlefields in the Civil War were extraordinarily smoky in the midst of action because smokeless gunpowder didn’t really exist yet. Smokeless powder did not come into broad use until the 1880s and 1890s. So if you had two armies of 60,000 fighting it out, that’s an awfully large amount of gunpowder going off. The haze would have been hard to see through at times, especially if there was no wind.
It also a big deal if a regiment lost its colors. A regiment held in low esteem by others due to incompetence would be given mundane tasks or, worse, be more likely to be selected as cannon fodder by the commander for an attack.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:00 PM
if they’re dirty what does that make the Titans? Filthy?
/rolls to avoid being stomped Haynesworth-style.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:00 PM
Am I still considered bandwagon for being a 49er fan born in the 80′s? They’ve sucked for about 10 years now. I think the bandwagon statute of limitations has expired.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:02 PM
Well, really, it’s not so much a crutch as the rule.
This is my favorite fan game. “You didn’t win! We lost!!1!” Originated by Cowboys fans in the old days, polished to a high sheen by modern Patriots fans.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:03 PM
Am I still considered bandwagon for being a 49er fan born in the 80′s? They’ve sucked for about 10 years now. I think the bandwagon statute of limitations has expired.
It certainly has. If you are a fan of the team after they garner the first overall pick and then squander about 6 years thereafter, you’re good.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:03 PM
You’ve tasted Alex Smith kool-aid, you’re legit.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:06 PM
Still am. Can’t wait to see how he does under Harbaugh.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:07 PM
Most bandwagon NFL team in the history of ever.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Ballz, I don’t think anyone ever thought you were a bandwagoneer, just that your post-natal memories of the good times might have been a tad fuzzy.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Me too, but probably for different reasons
May 31st, 2011 at 5:36 PM
Not surprised more Saints “fans” appeared out of the woodwork. Fact is this is the team’s best run ever.
I am, actually. I kinda thought once “we” got over the collective hump, the other NFL fans would crowd around us like (sorry for this) the end of the Karate Kid, muss our hair and say, “you’re all right, La Russo!” And then we’d get the keys to use the executive washroom or something. If some folks want to waste their time and money “getting on the bandwagon,” then fine. They’ll stick out eventually. Saints fans will party with anybody for a while, until they get annoying.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Here’s the ultimate bandwagon story:
I know a guy from Kennewick, Washington area. He’s in his early 30s. His favorite teams are: Bulls, Braves, Cowboys, and UNC Tarheels. It just so happens that all those teams were really good when he was a kid. I call him out on it all the time and it really pisses him off.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:50 PM
I’m originally from Massachusetts but have never rooted for the Patriots.
May 31st, 2011 at 6:01 PM
But its irritating being called a bandwagon fan when you’ve had to deal with sorry Aaron Brooks, winning games on Morten Andersen’s foot, Bobby Hebert, Mora, Ditka etc. You deserve success. I live in NC prior to the 09 superbowl, my Saints fandom was just seen as odd, now its viewed as convenient. Everyone here likes the Panthers or the Redskins. When I picked a football team, there were no Carolina Panthers, my dad was from Pensacola who moved to NC in the 70s and he didn’t care for the Redskins. Since I spent about every summer in the panhandle, I was familiar with the Saints because they’re the closest NFL team so their merch was easy to spot. So I was like fuck it, I’ll root for them. This was when Steve Walsh was the QB. Been a fan ever since.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:17 PM
What? No mention of the Skins? Clearly, after having lived through 12 years of the Dan “don’t know dick” Snyder era, the Skins fans need some kudos for hanging in there. Sure, the 50,000 person season ticket waiting list was exposed as a fraud, and you can still get club seats anytime you need them, but still…..it’s the most desired sports ticket in DC. Even the Caps winning the Stanley Cup (if they ever do) won’t change that fact.
June 15th, 2011 at 5:34 AM
“•Green Bay is one of the most popular teams, right? Well, they have also been one of the winningest teams consistently over the last 19 years (2 losing seasons in that span).”
You Kinda forgot to mention the part where our fans continued to sell out home games (and travel to away games) during our awful 70′s/80′s period, and the part during the awful 05-06 seasons when we were getting blown out/shut out at home or on the road, our fans didn’t leave the game at any point until the final whistle(unlike cheif’s fans), we probably had some that were “ejected”, but I doubt they just up and bailed.