Which NFL Franchises Will Win the Most Games Over the Next Five Years?
It’s late May of 1984. You are listening to “Let’s Hear It For the Boy” yet again on the radio, waiting for Cyndi Lauper’s “Time after Time” to come on instead. You’re biding your time, waiting for school to end and for the summer to begin so you can go see Ghostbusters as soon as it comes out. The Oakland Raiders had destroyed the defending Super Bowl Champion Redskins in the Super Bowl a few months earlier, and had won 2 of the last 4 Super Bowls. They had a young Marcus Allen and Al Davis and his “Just Win Baby” mentality. Could you have foreseen, through your Ray-Ban Wayfarer sunglasses, what the next five years held? Or were the headband and Jordache jeans too tight?
You should have looked past Oakland, who would remain solid but not be among the league’s best. Maybe, you were prescient enough to be on board the Giants, who went only 3-12-1 that previous season in young William Parcells’ first season, and you realized that Lawrence Taylor and company would emerge. Good guess: they had the fifth most wins over the next five years. Maybe you looked to old reliable, the team that had been to consecutive Super Bowls, the Redskins. You may not have foreseen Theismann’s injury and going from Jay Schroeder to an improbable Super Bowl with Doug Williams. The Denver Broncos may have been a reasonable choice, with John Elway entering his 2nd year in the league, and the team coming off a 9-7 season. They would go on to win 53.5 games, and Drive and Fumble their way to two Super Bowl appearances. Perhaps you could see that the Bill Walsh and Joe Montana combo would be celebrating another Super Bowl win in less than a year and emerge as the consistent force of the 1980′s.
Or perhaps you went with the Raiders because they just win, or the Cowboys because that would have been the safest pick in the book–all they did was just win, year in and year out, with 17 playoff appearances in the last 18 years (winning seasons every year). Maybe you were really misguided and thought that Todd Blackledge was due for a breakout, and pegged the Chiefs for a surge.
The best choice, though, would have been the Chicago Bears, and if you were smart enough to see the cultural phenomenon that was the Super Bowl Shuffle, good call. Coming off an 8-8 season under new coach Mike Ditka, the team had a punky quarterback that they hoped would stabilize a position that had been a strain for a decade, and they had a lot of guys who weren’t stars yet on defense but would soon become so.
But every group of years has a different story. I looked back at every five year stretch to 1978 (where each year counts as a new five year period and thus some portion of periods overlap), to see which franchises had the most wins, and what they did before that stretch of success. The Bears were 17th best in wins from 1979-1983, as we will see, a below average result for a team that would join the top 3 over the next five years.
Here is a breakdown of where the Top 3 teams by wins came from, based on where they ranked the previous five seasons. I divided them into five groups, Excellent (the top tier of teams in terms of wins), Above Average, Average, Below Average, and Poor.
| Previous 5 Years | Number | Pct | |
| Excellent | 26 | 0.30 | |
| Above Average | 19 | 0.22 | |
| Average | 15 | 0.17 | |
| Below Average | 16 | 0.18 | |
| Poor | 11 | 0.13 | |
As we can see, the most common situation is that a team that was already really good remained as one of the best teams–or as I’d like to paraphrase it, the San Francisco 49ers were really good for a long time. 30% of all Top 3 teams came from this group. But after that, it’s pretty flat until the bottom tier. The least common occurrence is for a truly bad team to turn it around immediately and become the dominant team, though the Greatest Show on Turf, the Dallas Cowboys of the 1990′s, and the San Francisco 49ers of the 1980′s emerging from the ashes of dreadful runs provide hope to anyone.
As for quarterbacks, the lesson is probably that already having one, particularly one who is not past his prime, already in place at the outset of the five year period is the best recipe for success. I divided the teams up by the type of quarterback they had over the stretch, into five categories–established starter age 30 or younger, established starter over 30, inexperienced starter projected to start in year 1, main QB was not starter at outset, and multiple quarterbacks played roles. The first two are mostly self-explanatory: established means the starter was already in place and had started one full (non-rookie) season before the period in question, and the age is measured as of year 1 of a five year period. The third category is for rookie starters, 2nd year starters, and other players who were taking over as starters (think Troy Aikman in 1990, or Danny White taking over for a retired Roger Staubach in 1980). The fourth is for the Tom Brady scenario. A QB who was not the starter emerges after the period begins. The fifth is for cases, like Washington in the mid to late 80′s or Kansas City in the mid-90′s, where multiple quarterbacks all played during a five year period. Here’s the breakdown:
| existing starter 30 or younger | 37 | ||
| existing starter over 30 | 20 | ||
| new projected starter | 10 | ||
| not the starter at outset | 9 | ||
| mix of quarterbacks | 13 | ||
So, our best guess should be teams that have quarterbacks age 30 or younger, who are already established as that team’s starter. Don’t worry, though, if your quarterback situation looks bleak or is filled with a journeyman. Twenty-five percent of the top teams either did not have the eventual starter established at the start of the period, or relied on a mix of players at the position over a five year period.
So let’s close with the fool’s errand that is trying to actually predict who will have the most wins in the NFL over the next five years. My top four guesses, where I try to mix it up by picking both current favorites and longshots:
Green Bay: The defending Super Bowl champions, and Aaron Rodgers turns 28 in December. Lots of young talent on both sides of the ball besides Rodgers, and just won a Super Bowl in a season they had several key injuries.
San Diego: Yes, they have a reputation as chokers and yes, special teams play really let them down last season, as they missed the playoffs for the first time since 2005. They also have one of the best quarterbacks who will also be turning 30 next year (and remember, the last two Super Bowl winning QB’s were also derided as stat compilers until their teams magically won despite their statty ways), have overturned the roster, and still have a good core of talent entering this stretch. The window is still open.
Tampa Bay: Their winning percentage has been below average the last five years, but Josh Freeman is only 23 and already really good. I like their recent drafts and think this is the type of team that could emulate the other emerging teams of the past. I was critical of how good they were last year and felt they overachieved, but that doesn’t mean I don’t like their future.
New England: Two words: Bill Belichick. Many of the top teams that carried on had elite coaches. They have traded for the future to build value and I trust them more than the Colts to maintain after Brady and Manning hit the late 30′s.
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May 25th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Chicago has two Cs, Lisk. And an h, i, a, g and o. Also, Jay Cutler now goes by his married name Jay Cutlerrari, not Aaron Rodgers. Usually your posts are really well proofread so I don’t want anyone to make fun of you.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Maybe you were really misguided and thought that Todd Blackledge was due for a breakout, and pegged the Chiefs for a surge.
Bitter Much?
May 25th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
a certain city with certain broad shoulders that begins with a C and rhymes with ‘hicago.’
May 25th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
the houston oilers
May 25th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Chicago has two Cs, Lisk. And an h, i, a, g and o. Also, Jay Cutler now goes by his married name Jay Cutlerrari, not Aaron Rodgers. Usually your posts are really well proofread so I don’t want anyone to make fun of you.
Thanks for catching that. I’ve updated the post.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Replace Tampa with Atlanta and I agree with you.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
/Browses for Steelers
//Finds no mention
///Disregards the post authored by the Dickface
Steelers will be in the top 4 for wins in the next 5 years, guarn-damn-teed
May 25th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
I dont care what anyone says “Time After Time” is a solid jam. I’ll always stay on it if it comes on in the car.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Sleeper is the Texans, once they right the ship on defense they’re going to win some games. I can see 9-7 happening for a long time. Suck it Dallas.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Lol. Youre not serious are you?
May 25th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Still are.
/goes to pick nose
//accidentally pokes self in eye
May 25th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
I was with you till you said New England. If anything, the examples you cite (Dallas, Oakland) would point to the Pats suffering an eventual dip in form. Nothing that would turn them into the Bills or Bengals, but would turn them into wild-card contenders and not division champs.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
(This quote 100% recycled)
5 years running
May 25th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
It’s late May of 1984.
I was sad then, but I guess lucky that parachute pants didn’t come in husky sizes.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Ummmm, Lisk, the Jets???
/TBL’d
May 25th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Lol. Youre not serious are you?
/looks at division
/looks at Lisk’s scoring chart
/nods head
May 25th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Hooters version of “Time After Time” >> Cyndi Lauper’s version
May 25th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Replace Tampa with Atlanta and I agree with you.
Lol. Youre not serious are you?
Julio Jones will make it happen.
/try not to laugh
May 25th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Needs more Pittsburgh
May 25th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
the houston oilers
Luv Ya Blue!
May 25th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
My incredibly awkward high school years?
/Good post, as always.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
or Danny White taking over for a retired Roger Staubach in 1980
the fucking punter. They let the punter be the QB.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I remember it vividly.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
(This quote 100% recycled)
5 years running
/shakes fist at YYSA.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Billy White Shoes!
May 25th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
No J-E-T-S??
Lisk must have some autonomy from teh hire ups at FSV
May 25th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
surprised the Jets aren’t here, but happy, too. the fewer expectations, the better
May 25th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Restore the roar.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
I was with you till you said New England. If anything, the examples you cite (Dallas, Oakland) would point to the Pats suffering an eventual dip in form. Nothing that would turn them into the Bills or Bengals, but would turn them into wild-card contenders and not division champs.
True, but I could have cited the 49ers from 1981-1997, Dallas from 1965-1983, Miami from about 1970-1985. Hall of Fame coaches, multiple quarterbacks. I think, more than other teams (and I know this is a point of contention) the Pats keep one eye on the future while still trying to win. They will trade a veteran or swap future picks for more value.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Find a coach who’s not talking about they’re winning the Super Bowl before every season then
Nice post Lisk
/Belt
May 25th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
the fewer expectations, the better
Just wait till Rex and Co. get into training camp. They’re going to come out and say that their mission is to win 2 Super Bowls in a row! And ESPN will blast it 24-7.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Yea. The Jets really dodged a bullet by not being mentioned in Jason Lisks article. Now they just have that pesky NYC media and jackass coach to deal with.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
I was with you till you said New England.
Ryan Mallett is the next great “system QB”
May 25th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Luv Ya Blue!
My college roommate was an Oilers fan. He had the tape with all the songs, including 12 days of Oiler Christmas (Tony Fritsch a-kickin’) that he would blast. The Bills-Oilers playoff game was my freshman year in college. We were on suicide watch.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Danny White is awesome.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Translation: Mallett is the next Peyton Manning in this guys eyes.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Ryan Mallett is the next great “system QB”
Ryan Mallett will reprise the Danny White role quite well and lead the Patriots to 12 win seasons and championship game losses.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Lisk, how close were the Steelers to your top 4? Curious as to your reasoning they won’t be up there.
Good owners – check
Good coach – check
Good team right now – check
Good drafting – check
Good division – check (4 wins against Bengals and Browns every year)
May 25th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Such a hater for all things East. You should really get a Pogo Ball and hop around the block.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
Ryan Mallett will reprise the Danny White role quite well and lead the Patriots to 12 win seasons and championship game losses.
40.2 yards per punt?
May 25th, 2011 at 4:56 PM
Imma say the lions..they’re gonna be beasts.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:57 PM
How does that make me a hater? I don’t hate the Jets at all.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
Christina Hendricks pool side. Thats a lot of woman.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
Which NFL Franchises Will Win the Most Games Over the Next Five Years?
L.A. Vikings.
/now to read the post
May 25th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
I’m gonna go outside and hold a giant metal pole now.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
That’s a lot of understatement too
May 25th, 2011 at 5:00 PM
Lisk, how close were the Steelers to your top 4? Curious as to your reasoning they won’t be up there.
First of all, feel free to disagree with anything. I guess the point is, unlike baseball, it’s probably pretty hard to pick. I would have had them top 5. This may be illogical, but I see Big Ben as sort of a mercurial figure. He could flame out quickly because of his unique style where he holds the ball and takes so many hits. I did some research once on QB’s and sacks taken in their 20′s and then how long the career lasts. Big Ben is in a group with Bert Jones and Ken O’Brien and Neil Lomax for most sacks at a young age for guys who where pro bowl caliber.
I guess that’s my random tipping point for having them just outside. That, and they were only 4th in wins, and just ahead of about 7 other teams, with Ben in his prime.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:01 PM
Didn’t want the MM fanboys to come out in full force
May 25th, 2011 at 5:01 PM
Senor Lisk, pregunta para ti.
What about the opposite… teams that will probably suck for the next 5 years? I’m not talking about Texans suck either. Like, Lions Millen era suck. Or Patriots before their fanbase knew they had a team suck.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
Josh Freeman
May 25th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
Team Trudy Campbell/Betty Draper-Fortensky. Or whatever the hell her last name is now…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
I’ll Take care of this one.
/draws circle around NFC West and AFC West
May 25th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
First of all, feel free to disagree with anything. I guess the point is, unlike baseball, it’s probably pretty hard to pick. I would have had them top 5. This may be illogical, but I see Big Ben as sort of a mercurial figure. He could flame out quickly because of his unique style where he holds the ball and takes so many hits. I did some research once on QB’s and sacks taken in their 20′s and then how long the career lasts. Big Ben is in a group with Bert Jones and Ken O’Brien and Neil Lomax for most sacks at a young age for guys who where pro bowl caliber.
I guess that’s my random tipping point for having them just outside. That, and they were only 4th in wins, and just ahead of about 7 other teams, with Ben in his prime.
Also factor in the likely domestic violence, rape charges, and finding a helmet for his fat face to squeeze into in 4 to 5 years and you’re sitting @ #7 or #8
May 25th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
Would you rather fuck Trudy Campbell or Annie Edison?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
While the homer in me is nodding, another part of me worries that Ben won’t make it 5 years without all the hits he receives taking a toll.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
True, but I could have cited the 49ers from 1981-1997, Dallas from 1965-1983, Miami from about 1970-1985. Hall of Fame coaches, multiple quarterbacks. I think, more than other teams (and I know this is a point of contention) the Pats keep one eye on the future while still trying to win. They will trade a veteran or swap future picks for more value.
And I think that’s the key. It’s why I wouldn’t have the Colts or Saints in that list, because they’re so dependent on Peyton and Drew staying healthy and performing. The Pats proved they can survive without Tom Brady. At least once.
As for talent, I think they prefer quantity (so as to not be dependent on 1 great player) in most positions.
The Pats have been going since 2001. That’s a decade-long run. Think they keep it going another 5 years?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
Christina Hendricks pool side. Thats a lot of woman.
Oh I could handle it.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
au contraire.
That too, is false.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:07 PM
The Bills-Oilers playoff game was my freshman year in college. We were on suicide watch.
You’re old. I was 9 when that game happened. What was college like without the internet?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Duly noted, thanks for the response. I can see that, they really do need to get that line straightened out if they want to protect their QB for the long haul.
But, but.. he’s engaged and a changed man now!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
you are wise beyond your years Mr. Lisk
May 25th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Love this.
Don’t love the fact that the Steelers are not included in your four teams to watch despite the fact that Big Ben fits your QB criteria.
/unless you think he’s going to try to rape another girl, in which case I would understand the Steelers’ omission
May 25th, 2011 at 5:09 PM
I fucking loved her 2 years ago. But I don’t like where her size trajectory is headed. Plus she’s in her late 30′s.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
He won’t if the line doesn’t get addressed. Maybe they can actually stay healthy an entire year for a change!
/doesn’t hold breath
May 25th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
gross.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Alright, who brought the dog?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
I need to hit the refresh button more often…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
Oh I could handle it
me too, i think she is hot. but that picture is horrid.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Alright, who brought the dog?
When I was a kid I used to rent Ghostbusters on a weekly basis and even thoguh I had seen it multiple times I still would run away at the librarian ghost screaming in the first scene. Good times.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
I feel like the Patriots have been in ‘rebuilding’ mode for the past few years, especially in not trying to go for a killer piece like Peppers, but rather gotten a couple of pretty lucky records (14-2) while getting rid of a few older vets Seymour, Thomas(failure), Moss, Vrabel, Matt Light(please) and using a couple successful drafts to infuse talent (I’d put 2009 up there with almost anyone’s draft for value and quantity… including turning Armanti Edwards into the 33rd overall).
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Get her? That was your plan? Get her.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
This entire post was a pretext to discuss 1984, so I must say that I’m a tad disappointed that the conversation has been on football.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
It ain’t just the line. He needs to get rid of the ball sooner. He has gotten better, but he brings on just as much punishment from holding the ball as the line shitty play does.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Here’s the process I’ve come to use due to lack of refreshing before…
1) type comment
2) copy comment
3) hit refresh
4) paste comment back in and edit if necessary, lol
May 25th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
“I’m testing the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.”
“The effect? I’ll tell you what the effect is! It’s pissing me off! And you can keep the five bucks, I’ve had it.”
“I will, mister!”
May 25th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Get her? That was your plan? Get her.
Ah, SG is going to save us.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
I wasn’t born yet. My parents got married that year. And the Tigers won the World Series. There’s 1984 for you.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
a pretext to discuss 1984
It’s one of the ten best rock albums of all time. What’s there to discuss?
/cranks up “Drop Dead Legs”
May 25th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
I blame that on the media and us Steelers fans because we praise the times it works out so much more than the times he gets picked, sacked and/or fumbles the ball away. It’s always… oh that’s ok, sometimes you gotta live with the bad when he’s capable of making that great play…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
Trudy, because I haven’t seen a second of Community. Though a quick google search revealed a past drug habit. So it’s not set in stone……
May 25th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
Better know your Demo.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:16 PM
I was 5, not much memory there
May 25th, 2011 at 5:16 PM
me too, i think she is hot. but that picture is horrid.
It’s not great for sure, but strangely it doesn’t turn me off either.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:17 PM
I’m here for you, dickhead.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:17 PM
IIRC New Coke and Pepsi Free came out in 1985, so that is the beginning of time as far as I am concerned, Lisk
May 25th, 2011 at 5:17 PM
How dare you. My favorite Pats player Ray Crittendon resents that comment.
/Fav Red Sox player? Two time All-Star Scott Cooper, who is the worst two-time All Star ever.
/Career 33 HR, .265 BA, 211 RBI’d
May 25th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
I’m here for you, dickhead.
dickface. we were looking for dickface.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Better know your Demo.
Word. I was born in ’83. I don’t have enough knowledge of ’84 to discuss it’s relative merits.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
So now it’s a book club?
/George Orwell’d
May 25th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
DAMMIT! I need another coffee.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
Butters is usually around in the mornings, Lisk.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
a pretext to discuss 1984
The first of 5 Stanley Cups in 7 years.
/Glory days well they’ll pass you by
//Glory days in the wink of a young girl’s eye
May 25th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
Baseball Reference says he had a defensive WAR of 1.1 one of those All-Star seasons. Must’ve been handy with the glove but I don’t remember him.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
I’m really the only person that knows lines from Ghostbusters? That saddens me greatly.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:21 PM
/Glory days well they’ll pass you by
//Glory days in the wink of a young girl’s eye
Compared to him now singing “This is ouuuuuuur country”, those certainly were glory days.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:21 PM
I was 2, but I still remember it vividly. The Unforgettable Fire came out that year.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:21 PM
You need a VALIUM.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:22 PM
I’m really the only person that knows lines from Ghostbusters? That saddens me greatly.
No you were just the first to quote it. I know exactly which scene you’re referring to. Towards the beginning in the New York Public Library after the librarian ghost freaks out at them.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:22 PM
IIRC New Coke and Pepsi Free came out in 1985, so that is the beginning of time as far as I am concerned, Lisk
1984 was the summer olympics. It was me listening to an A-Ha tape of Take on Me over and over. I spent the summer in Colorado with my cousins, all boys, 2 and 4 years older than me. Introduced to a certain magazine by older cousins. Oh, and Red Dawn. Saw that when it came out in Evergreen, Colorado. I was expecting the Russians to come up out of Mexico that night.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Fuck you, dude.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Compared to him now singing “This is ouuuuuuur country”, those certainly were glory days.
Springsteen and Mellencamp are the same person?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
When did John Mellencamp become Bruce Springsteen? Did I miss something???
May 25th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Van Halen 1984 – probably the greatest album art ever.
http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/V/van_halen_1984.html
/for Frisky Lisky
May 25th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
hah. Win for Geeez. I was slowed by wanting to make sure that one didn’t cover the other’s song and I missed it.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
Compared to him now singing “This is ouuuuuuur country”, those certainly were glory days.
Glory Days = Springsteen, Our Country = Mellencamp
May 25th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
ProFootball Weekly?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
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Compared to him now singing “This is ouuuuuuur country”, those certainly were glory days.
Springsteen and Mellencamp are the same person?
Oh goddammit. Can’t believe I did that.
/chugs shitty beer in penance.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Introduced to a certain magazine by older cousins
Reader’s Digest?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Introduced to a certain magazine by older cousins
Popular Mechanics?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Bill Simmons actually has an old article in which he argues that 1984 is the greatest year ever.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Introduced to a certain magazine by older cousins
Glamor magazine?
/Costanza’d.
//Hernia.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
Van Halen 1984 – probably the greatest album art ever.
Art Garfunkel is giving you his crazy eyed stare.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
something something crossing streams something something big ass dough boy
May 25th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
Sports Illustrated. Come on guys.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
A 13 round semi-auto clip of hollow-points?
/has to be different
May 25th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
shit, stay puffed marshmallow man
May 25th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
I am sure it is chalked full of Karate Kid.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
I never understood why people thought Sigourney Weaver was hot. There had to be a better (i.e. hotter) actress at the time to be Dana Barrett.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:28 PM
Highlights?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:28 PM
Another great write up Lisk
Only thing that I’m worried about as a Bucs fan is that the a lot of the media and fans are now jumping on the Bucs bandwagon and I’m wondering how that is going to effect a lot of the young players who are still growing on the team. It’s one thing like last year when nothing is expected of you and trying to prove everyone wrong. Another when everyone looking forward to knocking you down a peg for undue hype.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:28 PM
I am sure it is chalked full of Karate Kid.
I completely forgot about Karate Kid also being that summer.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:29 PM
You’re more like a game show host.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:29 PM
Only thing that I’m worried about as a Bucs fan is that the a lot of the media and fans are now jumping on the Bucs bandwagon and I’m wondering how that is going to effect a lot of the young players who are still growing on the team. It’s one thing like last year when nothing is expected of you and trying to prove everyone wrong. Another when everyone looking forward to knocking you down a peg for undue hype.
They could regress record wise in 2011, even if they are improved, but I’m making the prediction based on 2012-2015 coming through
May 25th, 2011 at 5:29 PM
I keep trying to link it but the comment gets lost. Just google Bill Simmons 1984. He talks about everything from sports, music, to movies.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:30 PM
I’m predicting a big step back for that whole division. Those top three teams aren’t going to all go 4-0 versus a division (NFC West) again…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:30 PM
I never understood why people thought Sigourney Weaver was hot. There had to be a better (i.e. hotter) actress at the time to be Dana Barrett.
She’s not conventionally attractive, but her voice, especially used in narration, melts butter.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Plus one Goofus and Gallant
May 25th, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Neighbor kids watched that movie every single day after school for a whole year. Lotta guns lying around that house.
1984 started out pretty awesome, but then we moved across town and my dad got sick and the world went to shit. /sadtrombone
May 25th, 2011 at 5:31 PM
1989 was obviously the best year ever
May 25th, 2011 at 5:32 PM
One word: Legs.
Just one small line. But it contains a link to his massive Karate Kid article.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Really, for the ’80s, 1982 was where the fuck it was at. Great year.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Especially since they could not accomplish that last year.
Max Hall 1 – Aints 0
May 25th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
1989 was obviously the best year ever
It had potential, but I’m partial to 1986 and 1988. ’86 was the first year I remember going to an Astros game.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
In 1988 all 3 of my favorite teams won championships. Good thing I remember it so well.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:34 PM
Stay Puft and “chock full”. I just had to clear those two things
May 25th, 2011 at 5:34 PM
Ooof. Forgot that.
11-1 doesnt change my theory though. Take those three teams records against the NFC East or North (whoever they play this year) and prob looking at 1.5-2.5 fewer wins per team in that division.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:35 PM
Challenge Accepted
/Pops in Planet Earth Blu Ray
/Pulls down pants
May 25th, 2011 at 5:36 PM
It had potential, but I’m partial to 1986 and 1988. ’86 was the first year I remember going to an Astros game.
I just got out the old baseball cards this weekend, my son and I had a draft, and we played a backyard game. Mike Scott was my starting pitcher. Unfortunately, Cory Snyder took him yard. Obviously not realistic.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:36 PM
grassy-ass, thought puffed was wrong but went with it anyway
May 25th, 2011 at 5:37 PM
I was 7 and this is about the only thing I remember from 1984. Besides Van Halen, of course.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:37 PM
I just got out the old baseball cards this weekend, my son and I had a draft, and we played a backyard game. Mike Scott was my starting pitcher. Unfortunately, Cory Snyder took him yard. Obviously not realistic.
Clearly not. Mike Scott was out of his mind that year. I’m sure TBL would say he was on something.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:37 PM
I picked up the “chalked” but after I erroneously corrected “shore up” earlier, I ain’t sayin’ shit…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Oh yeah that’s right, the Steelers play the NFC West this year
/going to the Niners/Steelers game out here
//IF there’s a season that is
May 25th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
I vividly recall Leon Durham being unable to field a fucking ground ball.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:39 PM
+4 gold medals for Carl Lewis.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:40 PM
I vividly recall Leon Durham being unable to field a fucking ground ball.
Was that the year Steve Garvey took Lee Smith oppo in the playoffs?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:40 PM
She’s not conventionally attractive, but her voice, especially used in narration, melts butter
She was a model before she was an actress, right? Seems sort of conventional
May 25th, 2011 at 5:40 PM
89 was when I was born, the Pistons won the Championship and the Bengals should’ve won the SuperBowl. It was almost so glorious.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 PM
I have never realized the uncanny resemblance that Cory Snyder has to John Daly.
I believe one Mr. Hernia will enjoy this. it is a magical mullet.
Link
May 25th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Was that the year Steve Garvey took Lee Smith oppo in the playoffs?
yes it was. Those Padres uniforms may have been the worst in the game. Well, other than when the White Sox wore shorts.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
There’s a violation for Duffy to add to his witchhunt! Death penalty!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
I was born in 1984.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
You can’t pick a year you don’t remember for ‘best year ever’. All you did is shit, vomit, and eat…. and make the rest of us feel old as shit.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Seriously, that Simmons 1984 article is really entertaining. I recommend it, Lisk.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Lisk beat me to it, Ty, but yes. That Ken Doll motherfucker.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
Seriously, that Simmons 1984 article is really entertaining. I recommend it, Lisk.
gonna find it.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Does. Not. Compute.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Alright, that made me laugh out loud.
When I was younger, I read one of Nolan Ryan’s autobiographies, Miracle Man Nolan Ryan, and I remember Ryan saying that Scott was a dick, more or less.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Threads like this remind me how young this blog’s commenters trend. Y’all a buncha n00bz.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040903
There you all go.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
/cries
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
the Bengals should’ve won the SuperBowl
RIP John Candy
May 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
yes it was. Those Padres uniforms may have been the worst in the game. Well, other than when the White Sox wore shorts.
/sarcasm font
What? These are sweet!!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:46 PM
My link won’t post. Just google ‘Bill Simmons 1984′ and it’s the first result.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
What? These are sweet!!
Holy shit, is that Tony Gwynn?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Some of you are older than I thought…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Is that an adjective? Or a caption for Tony Gwynn when he sees the box of Krispy Kremes just offscreen.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Those remind me of Taco Bell in the 80′s.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Some team from the NFC West is going to emerge. My money is on either San Francisco or St. Louis, but Arizona and Seattle are possible as well I suppose.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:49 PM
oops.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 PM
She was a model before she was an actress, right? Seems sort of conventional
Beauty is, shocking I know this is to learn, somewhat subjective. I think she’s attractive, but I realize not everyone, including YYSA, sees her that way.
Though YYSA is currently attempting to masturbate to her voice over footage of two jungle macaws doing a courting dance. So there’s that.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Way to narrow it down, jaywashere
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Ok, 2005. Bengals in the Playoffs, Pistons in the Finals, White Sox won the World Series, got a car & I lost my virginity. ’twas epic.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Threads like this remind me how young this blog’s commenters trend. Y’all a buncha n00bz.
My parents decided to have my brother first, while it was still the 70s. I had no say in the matter.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Is that an adjective? Or a caption for Tony Gwynn when he sees the box of Krispy Kremes just offscreen.
Sadly I think one box of Krispy Kremes would just be an appetizer
May 25th, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Fuck. Joe. Montana. And. Jerry. Rice.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Though YYSA is currently attempting to masturbate to her voice over footage of two jungle macaws doing a courting dance. So there’s that.
lolz.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Dammit. It takes too much space and too much explaining to make a joke like I lost my virginity in 2005, too.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Kimo!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:53 PM
yeah, I always thought Ballz was older than I was.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
Is losing virginity really that memorable? I couldn’t even tell you when I did. I simply have no memory of that specific night.
/probably because I was drunk.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
I don’t get why that matters so much, if you weren’t even born or 1 year old. I know that people liked to talk about the curse of the Bambino shit and 86 years, but Teddy Ballgame and Yaz never winning a title, or even the 1986 Mets didn’t bother me as much as 1999 and 2003 for the Sox.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
On a trampoline outside after a party.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
I’m honestly not trying to humblebrag but I thought my Highlights reference was super funny when you picture a young Lisk being sat down by his older cousins and handed a copy of a half-filled out, fresh from the doctor’s office Highlights magazine.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
The white Padres uniforms are tight. The brown ones not so much.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
I couldn’t even tell you when I did.
Colorado River on a boat ramp after a party…
May 25th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
I was 19 and it happened after taking my then girlfriend to her prom, and in the same hotel room as my friend and her friend handling their business too.
/late bloomer, made up for lost time from years 19-23 however
May 25th, 2011 at 5:56 PM
Oh damn. Forgot.
/racist
May 25th, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Let the hate flow through you……
Why? Because I claim to remember things I couldn’t possibly remember? Or my taste in music?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Okay, +1 for SG
-2 for asking for it, unless you were asking for it by wearing sexy clothes
/Steelers QB’d
May 25th, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Alrighty then, I guess I am unique for not being able to remember my first time. I’m sure it would be accurate to say though that it wasn’t very good.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:58 PM
The white Padres uniforms are tight. The brown ones not so much.
What’s up, menarkyvs?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
-2 for asking for it, unless you were asking for it by wearing sexy clothes
and a “DTC” necklace
/Down To Comment
May 25th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Murphy bed in a tract home in Loveland, CO, listening to “Mommy’s Little Monster” by Social Distortion.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
How can you not remember the first time? That’s like a right of passage. Hillcrest dormitory on a shitty futon after my first visit to the University of Iowa. Probably influenced my decision to go there.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Alrighty then, I guess I am unique for not being able to remember my first time. I’m sure it would be accurate to say though that it wasn’t very good.
That’s why I remeber it, fucking terrible
May 25th, 2011 at 6:01 PM
How can you not remember the first time? That’s like a right of passage.
It’s entirely possible that my mind has moved it to my subconscious to shield my conscious self from embarrassment.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:01 PM
Thank God I was drunk or that 4-5 minutes could have been 4-5 seconds. I had NO IDEA what the fuck I was doing.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:01 PM
I think it’s just cause I live in Michigan. My friends and I argue over which franchise is more inept. Claiming a SuperBowl would do wonders for me in that argument.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
haha, not meant as an insult by the way. I always just thought I remembered you making references to a lot of ’80′s stuff. and I thought you were the head of the “GET OFF MY LAWN” club, but maybe I am mistaken.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
I am sure you could find one person to agree with you.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
I remember that I lasted 4 hours and wasn’t able to finish for about my first 10 times because I was so used to my hand.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
It’s entirely possible that my mind has moved it to my subconscious to shield my conscious self from embarrassment.
Dr. Phil621?
May 25th, 2011 at 6:03 PM
Dr. Phil621?
/humanized.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:03 PM
I was a pro my first time(17). Watched plenty of game film leading up to the big day.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
I am sure you could find one person to agree with you.
Did Sigourney do the trick or are you still giving it a go?
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
Well, that does sound like me. Though I wouldn’t call myself the head of that club.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
Is losing virginity really that memorable? I couldn’t even tell you when I did. I simply have no memory of that specific night.
Basement of billet’s home, they were out of the night.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
I thought you were the head of the “GET OFF MY LAWN” club, but maybe I am mistaken
That guy went down in a blaze of poorly worded, then deleted, then re-posted, then deleted again rape joke.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 PM
I can’t agree that his first time wasn’t very good, but mine wasn’t either. That next morning and the second time was much better though.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
Michigan State frathouse bathroom. Older woman. “Grind on Me” by Pretty Ricky was playing. I almost made it through the entire song.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
You know, “good” is subjective. I enjoyed my first time thoroughly. I might be the only one but, hey, in my mind I was good at it right from the start
May 25th, 2011 at 6:06 PM
Took until I dated a 24 year old grad student when I was 19 to really figure out what the hell I was doing. It was like a sexual seminar course. She was a very patient and gentle teacher.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:07 PM
switched to the ocean episode. I figure my best shot is a manatee scene. Raspy voice mermaid here I cum.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:08 PM
Took until I dated a 24 year old grad student when I was 19 to really figure out what the hell I was doing. It was like a sexual seminar course. She was a very patient and gentle teacher.
My future wife is 2.5 years older than me.
/team older women.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
Yeah, I might request a trade here soon. Been going through all the younger restricted free agents and I just don’t like what I’m having to give up to sign them.
The older unrestricted ones, especially the ones that take a hometown discount, are where it’s at. I’ll be perusing the veterans this summer.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
Where are the redskins on this list?
That was a joke.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:11 PM
This was me though it was later than 17. Was definitely on my game, and damn proud of it. The girl later drunkenly told me at party a few weeks later that I had given her “the best O she’d ever had.” Definitely a proud moment.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:15 PM
Well obviously her first would be the best she’s ever had, she wouldn’t know any better.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Well obviously her first would be the best she’s ever had, she wouldn’t know any better.
/rimshot.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:17 PM
She was both older and not a virgin. I was at college. So I took it as a compliment.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:18 PM
I’ve never actually been with a virgin. Lucky me.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:18 PM
I assumed something like that, but it wouldn’t have allowed for the joke… lol
May 25th, 2011 at 6:19 PM
AVOID AT ALL COSTS.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:20 PM
I would hope that at 24, I would be past the point of running into one.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:22 PM
That’s when I found mine. She was 27. Set up by a friend who failed to tell me this. To this day, I hold it against her. I dropped that girl faster than a virgin blows his load.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:22 PM
I would hope that at 24, I would be past the point of running into one.
I’ve been told not to make a Mark Sanchez joke about that comment, so I won’t.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:24 PM
Same, and happy about it. My good friend has been through 6 or 7 virgins, DO. NOT. WANT.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Yeah, same here (though no longer future any more). Can’t agree enough with this statement. You can avoid a lot of crazy that way.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:28 PM
Why was she a virgin at 27? Dog or religious?
May 25th, 2011 at 6:28 PM
You know, I get the idea that dating a virgin is bad news in general but the craziest girl I’ve ever dated is 8 years older than me and I went out with a girl for 2.5 years that was a virgin til I met her at 24
May 25th, 2011 at 6:32 PM
I would really have to be attracted to a girl to stick around after discovering she was a virgin at 24. It’s just odd. I will give you like 21 or 22 just because it’s still college. But 24? It’s like you missed the college boat if you were still a virgin when you got there (like me).
May 25th, 2011 at 6:34 PM
And I probably sound like an asshole. Whatever. I just don’t want one of the “wait ’til marriage types” for the love of all that is holy.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:35 PM
Yeah, she was a college grad. It’s weird but she’s a cool girl. Not saying there were never odd issues and jealousies and what not but she was no worse than anyobody else for it. I feel compelled to point out that I was 24 when I met her and she was 24, also