Not in the woods, and not washing his paws afterwards. Or is that okay in Boston?

I’m loving Cleveland fans assuming that all 5 picks they got from Atlanta will pan out. Sure, only 50% of picks pan out, but not in Cleveland, apparently. They’ll get 5 starters with their picks.

oh don’t bristle that you paid too much.

even if only half of them pan out, that’s still 2.5 more defensive players you could’ve added to a D that got torched for 48 points.

but yea…the WR was a wise investment.

/looks at browns draft
//high fives falcons again

I’m loving Cleveland fans assuming that all 5 picks they got from Atlanta will pan out. Sure, only 50% of picks pan out, but not in Cleveland, apparently. They’ll get 5 starters with their picks.

Well yeah, but I’m just saying how much were these issues talked about before the draft? I don’t think as much as they are now. I think Leaf’s meltdown led to teams and the media taking a closer look at character issues, to the point where now they’ve become over-played.

I can get behind this. Teams are now coming to grips with how far they are set back if they blow a top pick and how much money they are out. Especially on a QB. Joe Montana said on the radio this morning that he would not take a QB at 1.1 if he had a choice. Too much pressure and the risk is too high with the % that flop. Take a safer position with that pick and get a QB later.

I seem to remember more work ethic/character issues with him than with Oher.

This was concerning

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And wasn’t Larry the one that threw his girlfriend down the stairs, or some variation of that kind of domestic violence

Dunno… since he’s an athlete, and therefore rich and privileged and exempt from the normal rules of society, it’s certainly possible.

He’s not supposed to report what teams are telling him and why a player might rise or fall? What’s his job then exactly?

To say that everyone is fantastic, amazing, and a quality football player.

/Gruden’d

That is a massive cop out. McShay still has a responsibility considering he goes on the air and is considered a “draft expert.” Of course he is a useless tool but this is just further proof of that.

He’s not supposed to report what teams are telling him and why a player might rise or fall? What’s his job then exactly?

Wrong. Knew a Wash St. grad who told me that he was a huge cockhead in college and everyone hated him. Scouts could have that info at hand fairly easily.

Well yeah, but I’m just saying how much were these issues talked about before the draft? I don’t think as much as they are now. I think Leaf’s meltdown led to teams and the media taking a closer look at character issues, to the point where now they’ve become over-played.

And wasn’t Larry the one that threw his girlfriend down the stairs, or some variation of that kind of domestic violence?

I am always reminded of this bit. NSFW language.

/3 Superbowls while in school in Pittsburgh’d

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I don’t want to defend McShay, because he is a clueless lemming. But, because he IS a clueless lemming, I don’t think he’s really to blame here — all he is doing is repeating what teams are telling him. It’s all well and good for Oher to be pissed that McShay is making that stuff public, but the reality is that McShay didn’t make a determination that Oher had those issues, but rather, a few NFL teams did.

That is a massive cop out. McShay still has a responsibility considering he goes on the air and is considered a “draft expert.” Of course he is a useless tool but this is just further proof of that.

Yeah but his was more post-draft than pre-draft because of how crazy he turned out to be

Wrong. Knew a Wash St. grad who told me that he was a huge cockhead in college and everyone hated him. Scouts could have that info at hand fairly easily.

Andre Smith (#6, Bengals)

I seem to remember more work ethic/character issues with him than with Oher.