Tommy Tuberville Called for President Obama to Produce His Birth Certificate
1-liner, All, College Football, Politics April 27th. 2011, 11:08am
Tommy Tuberville: The Texas Tech head football coach went on Sean Hannity’s (awful) radio show Tuesday to talk politics. Tuberville said, “We’ve got to have leadership in this country.” That’s rich, considering Tuberville once said while coaching at Ole Miss, “They’ll have to carry me out of here in a pine box,” and then two days later left to coach Auburn. Later during the Hannity interview, Tuberville asked for Obama to produce his birth certificate. “I don’t know why he wouldn’t just step up and say, ‘Here it is.’ Obviously, there’s got to be something on there he doesn’t want anybody to see.” Boom. Tommy Tuberville, Carnival Barker. [Red Raiders via Bryan Fischer]
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April 27th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
So we’re saying Tubs should take credit for this, and not Donald Trump?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
The pin hath been pulled and the grenade hath been dropped.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
why do we keep trying to fuel this fire?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Honestly though, I really don’t know why he never showed the long form in the first place, unless he just liked seeing the drama.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Hey Tommy- you don’t coach in the SEC anymore so you don’t have to blindly fall in line with the backwards southerner act anymore.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:14 AM
Considering comment No. 4, do you think I’m a backwards southerner too?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Shame on him for caving to the trolls with this stunt…should have made them take it to court if they were that sure about his place of birth, the people who this could possibly convince a) probably still don’t believe it and b) aren’t voting for him anyway
April 27th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
wonder what the blowback will be like for TT on this one. bet the football team loved these comments
April 27th, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Tuberville is a semi-racist tool. I am continually amazed that people lose all common sense when it comes to politics.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Yeah what took so long, boy?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
I’m far more interested in what Luke Scott thinks about this, he busy teaching his “savage” teammates about how to act in public or something? Why hasn’t he weighed in yet?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Doubt it will be much at all.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Sad part is, his act will probably HELP his recruiting efforts in Texas.
/just secede already
April 27th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I love hearing savage. I use it to describe WW2/Korean era Marines as an honor
/unrelated to the topic..sorry..
April 27th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I’m assuming you mean all of the black players? Which means you are assuming that a) he’s a racist for wanting to see the birth certificate and/or b) the black football players on the team are democrats…which is also racist.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Today is Administrative Professionals Day? Why do we have a day for that?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
RoundUp and this post are going strong at the same time
April 27th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
to be fair, Tommy was transported from Oxford to Auburn in this all-wood truck.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Honestly though, I really don’t know why he never showed the long form in the first place, unless he just liked seeing the drama.
do you show your birth certificate to people all the time? I’ve had to take the certificate of live birth to the DMV once or twice, but I’ve never seen my long form.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
It was bullshit that people were questioning a legal document that the state of Hawaii releases when it gets requests for birth certificates (the short form). Because his father happened to be Kenyan, the birthers decided to go ape shit about this. I fucking despise those people.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
leaders don’t stick around on sinking ships.
/ignores old maxim “captain goes down with the ship.”
April 27th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Nah. You’re just a homer like me.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Not a political guy, but I dont recall any other president being required to produce said document. Wonder whats different about this president?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Today is Administrative Professionals Day? Why do we have a day for that?
You’re asking why there is a secretary’s day? Because people work hard, and like recognition. Don’t worry, big time, there’s a boss’s day, too.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:21 AM
i don’t understand how people can truly think that they’re more informed than our government which has a strict policy in place for who can lead our country.
but yea…it’s some leftist conspiracy to get a foreigner in the white house. that makes total sense.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
I’m kinda pissed he caved to those birther retards.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Dis Merica
April 27th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
White Sox fans can’t catch a break, be it constant meth jokes or people trying to get us removed from jobs as President of the United States
April 27th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
basilone.
/goodnight chesty puller, wherever you are
April 27th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
No. But I’m not the president either. I’m assuming there has been presidential precedent to produce a long form birth certificate.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Unfortunately dirt, I fall into neither category. Unless there’s a “you’re in the middle but we’ll give you an intern” day on the calendar, I feel left out.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Why don’t we have just have a post about alien abduction every few weeks? It’s about as sound in thinking as the fact that Obama wasn’t born in the states. I’ve heard people try to argue he’s not a citizen because his dad is Kenyan. All those people, kindly kill yourselves. Kthxbai
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
he always has a jogging motion when descending steps? no other president in history has ever done this. he’s OBVIOUSLY foreign…probably french.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
I’m assuming there has been presidential precedent to produce a long form birth certificate.
I would imagine it got checked when he filed the paperwork to run for president, just like I’m sure it does for everybody else. Somebody looks at the real deal in Hawaii, and the box gets checked for confirmed age and confirmed natural citizenship, and everybody moves on.
The only precedent I’m aware of is Alexander Hamilton around the time the rule was written.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
I was, too, until I actually watched some clips of the press conference. It doesn’t seem like he “caved.” Rather, he was like “this is ridiculous” and “I want to talk about the real problems in American today, not this sideshow you news networks keep focusing on.” He was solid.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
dunno…was there ever a president who didn’t come from the highest reaches american familial aristocracy?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
I don’t understand why secretaries no longer accept the term, ‘secretary’ as their job title.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:26 AM
The calling any criticism or questioning of obama racism is more ignorant than the birther movement.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
i don’t understand how people can truly think that they’re more informed than our government which has a strict policy in place for who can lead our country.
My father, who admittedly said he couldn’t bring himself to vote for a black man, said “anybody who thinks he’s from another country or has doubts about it is a fucking idiot.”
April 27th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
I supposed you believe it should be replaced by Intensely Hairy Leg Day?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
I’m kinda pissed he caved to those birther retards.
it was ceasing to be a marginalizing issue. When it started, the whole movement discredited the people that kept asking. It’s was getting too much traction as a “real” issue.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Aaaaaaan mrejer has come to save the day. I think we can reasonably associate birtherism with racism. I agree that other criticisms of the President certainly fall outside the bounds of racism but being a birther is inexcusable in my opinion.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Nothing is more ignorant than the birther movement other than maybe the Flat Earth Society…if anything they’re all tied for last
April 27th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Same reason a sales person is now called an account executive. Titles are very ambiguous now. I was labeled an Interactive Marketing Consultant when all I was in fact doing was selling ad space on the internet.
My current title leaves a little bit to be desired. Perhaps I’ll change it.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
After saying that, he flew to Chicago to tape an episode of Oprah. Real problems in America, indeed.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
because “secretary” sounds they’re just asking to get deep dicked when the office is closed while “professional assistant” makes them sound like woodhouse from archer.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
The calling any criticism or questioning of obama racism is more ignorant than the birther movement.
finally, the voice of reason!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Probably because there has never been an iota of an issue. W. Bush could have produced his, but why would it make the news?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:29 AM
I have to shave my playoff beard tonight. I hope Home Depot still has that sale on weed whackers.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I know Obama was born in America and I think this whole thing is very foolish. Having said that it can’t be that hard to fake a birth certificate can it? Especially if it was an older hospital that lost its records before they switched to digital records?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
The calling any criticism or questioning of obama racism is more ignorant than the birther movement.
I’ve heard people say something stupid about Obama that is meritless, get told by another person that what they just said about Obama was stupid and meritless, and then watched the original guy claim that the second guy said he was a racist for criticizing Obama (by the use of a stupid, meritless statement).
So there’s a lot of people hiding behind the word racist, and plenty more using it as a straw man argument.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Now if we could just get Palin to release her hospital records to show that she is actually Trig’s mother, all will be well.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Same reason a sales person is now called an account executive. Titles are very ambiguous now. I was labeled an Interactive Marketing Consultant when all I was in fact doing was selling ad space on the internet.
My current title leaves a little bit to be desired. Perhaps I’ll change it.
/not sure why it was moderated after the first try, so here’s 2nd attempt
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Carter, Jimmy
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I wish I had a secretary to give dictation to.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
If only people realized gas is cheap.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Probably because there has never been an iota of an issue.
there wasn’t here, either, in retrospect, now was there?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
The calling any criticism or questioning of obama racism is more ignorant than the birther movement.
May not be racism, mrejr, but there’s a wide segment of the birther movement that dislike the president’s “otherness.”
April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
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April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
good lookin’ out.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
my dogs name is trigger and we call him trig for short. poor kid
April 27th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
It’s circumstantial ad hominem.
Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A’s circumstances.
Therefore X is false.
Person A says Obama may not have been born in U.S.
Person B says Person A is a racist white person.
Therefore, anything Person A says is racist and false and anyone mimicking his claims, even for valid and/or non-racist reasons is also incorrect and a racist.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Unfortunately, a crapload of people watch Oprah. So him doing this gives him further chance to clear out the whole birth certificate issue. I love it when people bash politicians for going on news or interview shows. A large part of politics is talking “to” the public even if it’s on some silly show like Oprah or Letterman.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:33 AM
The birthers are beside the point. They’re crazy. Who cares what they think. The problem is there are reasonable people who just wanted to see the damn thing. They aren’t racist. And if they were motivated by anything, it was their anti-Dem feelings.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
That’s racist.
/this is how this works right?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Willy, Slick
April 27th, 2011 at 11:34 AM
And now they can shut the fuck up about that, unless they want to delve deeper into conspiracy theories.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Then why dismiss certificate issue as silly?
I have no problem with presidents doing Oprah or playing golf. I do have a problem with them withholding information, however insignificant, until it causes an issue, then turning around and saying said issue is silly because he has more important things to worry about.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
They’re reasonable. They won’t. And they don’t have to. Obama’s not losing ’12 based on where he was or wasn’t born.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:36 AM
The Glenn Beck of this forum.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Person A says Obama may not have been born in U.S.
person B says to person A that they probably would have checked, since it’s a rule.
Person A continues to say Obama wasn’t born in the US (and is probably a muslim)
Person B ignores person A, and laughs with other persons B, silently
Person A learns the words radical and Madrasa, and continues on. Person A calls Hawaii and requests a copy of the president’s birth certificate. Person A receives in the mail (for 20 dollars) a certificate of live birth for Barack Obama. He focuses on the Hussein part. He disbelieves that the thing he got in the mail is true.
Person B continues to ignore person A.
Person A won’t shut up about the birth certificate.
Person B wishes he didn’t ever have to talk to person A.
Person A thinks person B thinks he’s a racist. He doesn’t hate black people, he just hates Obama (because he’s a radical madrasa muslim that isn’t our true president).
There’s not a lot of middle ground between person A and person B, at least not that they can see, or care to.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Apples and bananas.
/nods at roman
April 27th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
No, there wasn’t. But Obama’s withholding of the long form contributed to the lunacy, so isn’t there some partial blame there?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Clinton, Bill
/Arkansas represent yay-e yay-e
April 27th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
So ritty, you think you can run for the office of POTUS without producing a birth certificate? And that brilliant right wing conservatives were the only ones smart enough to ask to actually see it, therefore uncovering on of the biggest acts of fraud in the history of the U.S., but you don’t think Cam Newton took any money?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Person A wonders why he never showed the thing before for no other reason than to preemptively shut everyone up.
/ Bush Doctrine
April 27th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
uh oh
April 27th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
But Obama’s withholding of the long form contributed to the lunacy, so isn’t there some partial blame there?
did you see John McCain’s long form before you voted? Or did you just take him at his word that he was a US citizen?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Who cares if Birthers are racist or not? They’re stupid, and that’s all that really matters.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
If not that’s more of an us problem than an Obama one…don’t hate the player, hate the game
April 27th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
No, I don’t think any of that. I never had doubt he was qualified to be President. This was all about publicity. Plus there were legitimate polls that suggested majorities had questions. So why not produce the thing to positively affect your own political stance leading up to ’12.
And don’t bring Cam into this, dick.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
I took a slice of his cancer skin and counted the rings back to his rightful birthplace.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
No. No. No. No. No other President has EVER had to publicly show his birth certificate. Of course, when an African-American president with an actually African father comes along, thing’s change. The President’s mother, remember, was a white woman originally from Kansas. This whole thing has just been absurd.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
i love when trump said this…
bad students always finish magna cum laude at harvard and get elected as the president of their law review.
obama might be a shitty president, but why attack his qualifications? attack his actions instead.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Person A wonders why he never showed the thing before
I don’t think “he” has a copy. I know I don’t have a copy of mine. Should he have just kept one in his pocket for the myriad requests?
It’s a pre-requisite for running. It would have been checked by bureaucrats before anybody signed off on his candidacy. So he did “show” it.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Those people aren’t voting for him anyway would be my guess…those polls seemed to be given to the same people who strongly believed that Iraq was tied to 9/11 back in 2003
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Glad BHO finally produced his long form birth certificate. Why did he hold off for so long to begin with?
Now we can move on to rectifying the mistake that happened in 2008 and elect a competent president. This guy is all whine and demonizing the opposition. I thought he was going to be “above politics”.
I guess it’s true, a sucker is born every minute.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
i took him at his word…it’s not cool to question a POW’s citizenship considering, you know, they were a POW and everything.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
I didn’t vote for John McCain. And I rely on the press to inform me of issues or potential issues. McCain’s birth was never made an issue by anyone. Obama’s was. Not because he’s black either, you fucking racists who assume that, but because his Dad was born in another country and he lived in other countries. And because it was made an issue in the press. If John McCain’s dad was a Swede, and the same issue arose, and there was tons of press on it, my logical stance on this matter would be the same.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Glad BHO finally produced his long form birth certificate.
please post yours. I’ll wait for you to go get it.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
I do have a problem with them withholding information,
What information did he withhold? He showed the short (legal) form with all the relevant information on it.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
How trollicious.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
He being the White House.
And of course he showed it. BUt he didn’t show it publicly. That’s the issue here.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
McCain’s birth was never made an issue by anyone. Obama’s was.
but doesn’t it cross your mind that maybe everything was all in order all along, given all the affadavits people signed saying that the long form existed in the place it was supposed to? I don’t know how vast you think conspiracies are, but they rarely involve ultra low level paper pushers from records offices.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
So you’re saying he spent part of his youth overseas receiving some “training?”
/rubs chin in a curious manner
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
When Obama is out of office he has to do lifelock commercials
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
And don’t bring Cam into this, dick.
Just wondering, why so analytical on one subject and not the other?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
And people had a problem with not seeing the long form. I don’t know all of the specifics. Whatever happened, it caused a controversy that he could have prevented.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
And of course he showed it. BUt he didn’t show it publicly. That’s the issue here.
you’re saying he should have kowtowed to a microscopic community of wacko conspiracy theorists who he knew to be wrong?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Trust me, I have been analytical with Cam. On this site and otherwise.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
It shouldn’t have been, anyone questioning it isn’t voting for him anyway…should have just said fuck ‘em
April 27th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
And people had a problem with not seeing the long form. I don’t know all of the specifics. Whatever happened, it caused a controversy that he could have prevented.
Couldn’t disagree more. So anytime that some wack-job has a totally irrelevant and unsubstantiated claim about the President the burden of proof is on the President to prove THEM wrong?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
You mean like George W? Or Trump? Or Palin? Or any of the other clowns that the teabag douches want?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
of course, he looks like an ‘Merican, and his name is John. Can’t get more ‘Merican than that.
/spits
//yells that gov’t should keep it’s nose out of healthcare
///accepts my medicare/medicaid, waiting for social security
//// gambles social security away at casino
/////repeats process next month
April 27th, 2011 at 11:50 AM
you jackasses do know Obama released his birth certificate a long time ago, no?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Tommy Tuberville obviously doesn’t read enough scripture.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
You mean like George W? Or Trump? Or Palin? Or any of the other clowns that the teabag douches want?
/Thats racist
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 AM
/spits
//yells that gov’t should keep it’s nose out of healthcare
///accepts my medicare/medicaid, waiting for social security
//// gambles social security away at casino
/////repeats process next month
‘Merica! Fuck Yeah!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
That’s hilarious, Miz.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
you’re saying he should have kowtowed to a microscopic community of wacko conspiracy theorists who he knew to be wrong?
No but would it hurt the government to admit they have an area51 and tell us what is going on inside?
/picks up Jesse Ventura book
//adjusts tin foil hat
April 27th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
The calling any criticism or questioning of obama racism is more ignorant than the birther movement.
May not be racism, mrejr, but there’s a wide segment of the birther movement that dislike the president’s “otherness.”
The “birthers are racists” is a more sound theory then the Obama theories of him being a secret Muslim Kenyan, Obama applied for foreign student aid in college, Michelle Obama has more assistants then any other FLOTUS. For Christ sakes Bill O’Reilly refuted all these a couple of weeks ago.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
It unfortunately was not a very small group of people. Something like four in 10 GOP voters claimed to not believe he was born in the U.S. So I think that roughs out to about 15% of the population or something in those whereabouts. (~35% of country is solid GOP voting, 40% of 35%….etc.)
April 27th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Man, America is fucked up. You guys (as in, specifically the Conservative party and its blind followers) spend so much time harping on retarded, non-consequential issues that it makes me shake my head. I remember all the shit that was coming out about Obama right before the 08 election by “fair” networks like Fox News.
Insane and overly petty.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
No but would it hurt the government to admit they have an area51 and tell us what is going on inside?
I just hope they hurry up and finish retro-fitting alien technology into sex dolls. I need a little more lifelike action out of this plastic lady I’ve got over here.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
But again, he shouldn’t give two fucks about what they think…it’s a lost vote already
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
No, unfortunately those crazies affected general public opinion. There were polls that said only 38% of the population definitely believed he was born in the US. Or something. It was on Drudge. That’s a political publicity nightmare.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
shut the fuck up, colonist.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Didnt Trump praise Obama before the election and was on his side until recently? Smells fishy
April 27th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
This. Some of the surveys I’ve read about GOP voters regarding certain issues (Iraq invasion, Obama, etc) are just asinine. People are fucking stupid in some parts of the States.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I agree but fucking CNN, not just Fox News, couldn’t stop talking about it, probably because of Trump.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
But again, he shouldn’t give two fucks about what they think…it’s a lost vote already
This.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
It unfortunately was not a very small group of people. Something like four in 10 GOP voters claimed to not believe he was born in the U.S. So I think that roughs out to about 15% of the population or something in those whereabouts. (~35% of country is solid GOP voting, 40% of 35%….etc.)
it didn’t start off as that many. A few of the latheriest ones kept this non-issue an issue, and wore down the resistance of doubt for a lot of rational, reasonable republicans.
In three weeks it will be something else, some other miniscule faction that gets all the press, because those stories are very easy to put on TV.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
I think we are more fucked up because of more important issues instead of people who believed he was a foreigner
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
w00t!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:57 AM
“Information cannot be relied upon” might as well be the other way of saying Drudge Report. There hasn’t been a statistically legitimate poll showing that many people suspicious of his birth. However, there was still a solid chunk of the population yelling about it, and I understand that with CNN and company, not just Fox, talking about it, the issue wasn’t going to go away.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
No, unfortunately those crazies affected general public opinion. There were polls that said only 38% of the population definitely believed he was born in the US. Or something. It was on Drudge. That’s a political publicity nightmare.
that’s what I just said, too. And what I actually said way, way up in comment #41, too. It took him until today to decide that the politically expedient thing was to diffuse it.
You think he should have diffused it long, long ago.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Didnt Trump praise Obama before the election and was on his side until recently? Smells fishy
Yep. The Donald has been pretty middle of the road politcally most of his celebrity life.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
I can’t imagine how much the rest of the world is just shaking their heads at the idiocy coming from our country (mainly from the right).
April 27th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Sigh, sigh, sigh.
If it’s good enough for the US government, why in God’s name does a vocal minority need to be placated?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:59 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380791/Obama-birther-poll-Only-38-Americans-believe-Presidents-birth-certificate.html
April 27th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
he is a gerddammed american! get over it. time to focus on something more important, good god.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
that’s because CNN is the worst cable news channel out of any of them. at least Fox and MSNBC don’t pretend about where they lean, CNN wanders aimlessly between the two. They define unbiased news as reporting all news without vetting it for quality/newsworthiness.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:00 PM
The vocal minority was forming a majority. It was going to be an issue even if those making it an issue completely missed the point. So, release the damn thing. Which he did. Trust me, if it was just psychos making this an issue, it would never have made as many headlines.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
I think I need to change both of my diffuses to de-fuse, but that’s not the word I want either. Regardless, I’m dumb.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Man, I lived in Maryland for a couple of months when I was younger – Canada as a whole (minus the weather) blows the States out of the water when it comes to safety, security, quality of life, and worldwide (positive) perception. Obviously not all parts of the states are bad, but looking at Canadian politics and comparing it to the States, its so tame. There’s so much hatred within the system with you guys – everything is about greed, money, and stepping over one another. For god’s sake, one of the leading themes for Obama by his opposition coming into the election was “HE’S MUSLIM!!!!”
April 27th, 2011 at 12:01 PM
McCain was born in Panama, so in hindsight, we should have asked for a DNA test to confirm who his father is. But, then again, he’s white.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Correct.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
id love to make jeanne moos a mute. she’s the fucking worst.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
I’m going to the shooting range at lunch today.
/’Merica
April 27th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
military bases are American soil
April 27th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
but looking at Canadian politics and comparing it to the States, its so tame.
Ignoring of course that a separtist party held almost 50 seats in the House of Commons.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
I say this after having recently watched some transvestite get beat up in a McDonald’s in Baltimore. Fuck. Canada. Add insignificance to your generalized list of positives.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
a) i was joking above…figured you’d pick up on the meme
b) my buddy from canada was in last weekend and we discussed this a lot…
yes, when it comes to safety and security, canada is an improvement over the US. but canada doesn’t face the same level of problems the US does seeing as the US has 10x the population and the fact that the US is a global superpower while canada is not.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
IOn that note, I also thought it was fucking retarded that some black people voted for Obama simply because he was black.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:05 PM
I went yesterday. Shot an Egyptian MAADI AK47 and my .40 S&W
April 27th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
also…isn’t canada a minority govt? that’s fine and dandy, but if you think the US legislative process is slow…
April 27th, 2011 at 12:07 PM
No more retarded than people voting a straight Republican ticket because they’re Republican (or a Democrat voting Democrat).
April 27th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Watch the documentary “the union” (right up your ally by the way.) Pretty much Canada calling us a bunch of ignorant fucktards.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
No more retarded than people voting a straight Republican ticket because they’re Republican (or a Democrat voting Democrat).
i think the former is probably more retarded.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
also…isn’t canada a minority govt?
Has been for years, and most likely will be when we vote again next week.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
canadians calling americans arrogant is pretty hypocritical.
that said, they do do some shit right. and toronto and vancouver rawk (never been to montreal but heard good things…and also dirt’s story).
April 27th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
nice. I’m shooting my Glock 23 and my buddy I’m going with just got a S&W snub nose .38 to go along with his Kimber 1911. I’m pretty sure that .38 is going to rock my world, but shooting his Kimber is a thing of beauty.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:11 PM
proove he was born on the base, and not by some foreign people who switched him at birth, with this even more elaborate and poorly planned manchurian candidate conspiracy to have him spend time in a POW camp, choose Palin as his running mate, only to fall deathly ill in the middle of his inauguration speech so that palin could assume the presidency and return america to it’s 1787 glory days.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
I agree with that for the most part.
However, I don’t think being a “global superpower” holds as much weight when you’re trillions of dollars in debt to China.
you don’t have to be a superpower to be a great country. Countries like Sweden or Switzerland have excellent quality of life, but they’re “insignificant”. The majority of people there could care less. Ditto for Canada. I’ve never once felt insignificant. Why should I?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
ive been on that for years!
April 27th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I agree. And likewise I’ve never felt unsafe, lacking, inferior, etc.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I was adressing the “Add insignificance to your generalized list of positives” quote with the insignificance point.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
I know what you were addressing. And I was doing the same for your generalized list of negatives. It seems we both may have made too many assumptions. Plus my hatred for Canada stems from a girl. We can both agree that’s ridiculous.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Plus my hatred for Canada stems from a girl.
Some little fillie break your heart?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
$1.1 trillion…7% of our total debt is held by china. and yes, being a global superpower means a ton.
nobody’s saying you should feel insignificant, but it’s abso-fucking-lutely retarded to compare a country with 300mm to canada, sweden or switzerland, the latter of the two don’t have issues with immigration (that doesn’t keep the swiss or swedish from trying to restrict it even more) or huge populations in poverty.
and while canada is obviously ethnically diverse, you cannot say the same about switzerland or sweden.
compare the US to russia or china or germany, hell, even brazil, but not small countries that don’t have the global economic or political voice that the US does.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Person A makes a presidential policy.
Person B says person A is not born in the US.
Therefore Person A’s policies are invalid.
See what I did there?
Is the President supposed to address all invalid irrelevant accusations? What if some tree-hugging nuts started a “W suffers from anal fissures” movement that spread across the left-wing talk radio network and DEMANDED that W. prove he show documents that he doesn’t have anal fissures. Would that be your boy W’s fault?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
because plenty of your fellow countrymen continue to actively associate themselves with their French roots. insignificance, thy name is Canadian.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
April 27th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Couldn’t disagree more. So anytime that some wack-job has a totally irrelevant and unsubstantiated claim about the President the burden of proof is on the President to prove THEM wrong?
Remember the inauguration, when certain assholes were saying “it didn’t count!” because the Supreme Court justice swearing Obama in said the wrong lines? And of course Obama was like, no worries, we’ll just do it again later and get a picture taken? And then all the assholes were like, “AH HA! I knew it!!!” Same damn thing here. I eagerly await these folks calling for his baptismal records next.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Muslims have a baptism ceremony?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Whole lotta personal opinions being thrown around as fact around here.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
compare the US to russia or china or germany, hell, even brazil, but not small countries that don’t have the global economic or political voice that the US does.
You’ll fit in nicely in the Jersey/Heldover administration….
April 27th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
sounds like 2000
April 27th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Or this
April 27th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
we’ll turn this country around, lickety-split.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
+1 muslin headdress, Miz.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Not quite. She did fill it with hatred.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
No. That would be stereotypical. Stereotypes don’t always equate to racism.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
No. Those people aren’t “reasonable.” Obama gave the short form AS REQUIRED BY LAW. All “reasonable” people knew that was good enough.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Person A wonders why he never showed the thing before for no other reason than to preemptively shut everyone up.
/ Bush Doctrine
by that rationale, I can say I heard Mitt Romney was born a girl, and they surgically attached a penis, and there are scars where it was attached. You can tell me I’m wrong, and show me a “worthless” certificate of live birth showing me he was born male, but why not just show me that there’s no dick scars?
April 27th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
A majority of Americans doubted or at least questioned his citizenship status. That’s why this was important.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Yeah, right. I meant to say racial stereotype.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
Ignorant southerners. I am glad that god gave them a stupid accent to make them more easily dismissible.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
he had 4 years to produce the birth certificate and didn’t. why not? whats he hiding? what took so long? dont hold the breath waiting for the msm to ask
April 27th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
Not when/where McCain was born.
April 27th, 2011 at 6:35 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/
April 28th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Tommy is a christian republican right wing piece of shit.