The Lockout Ruling Still Depends on the Conservative 8th Circuit Court of Appeals
For fans who are rooting for the NFL season to begin on time, Judge Susan Nelson’s ruling yesterday granting the player’s injunction against the owner lockout was a key one, but it may all be for naught if the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals reverses her ruling on appeal. Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times interviewed a former chairman of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) who described the 8th Circuit as reversing many of their decisions against employers.
Former chairman William Gould said, “[p]hilosophically, they’re hostile to the rights of unions and workers to engage in union activity, and, in this case, not to engage in union activity.” Gould held the position until 1998, and the current composition of the 8th Circuit is 9 Republican appointees to 2 Democrats, with many of the appointees coming during George W. Bush’s presidency.
Now, I’ll point out that Gould’s experience was with the NLRB, and reviews of that agency’s decision are a little different than reviewing this trial court decision that determined the NLRB did not have to review an issue. I went through the lengthy 89-page decision (so you wouldn’t have to) to break down the key factors in the decision.
The primary issue regarding the injunction was whether the circuit court was required to stay its proceeding and defer to the NLRB on the issue of whether the player’s disclaimer of being represented by a union was valid. Then NFL’s position was that the NLRB was required to rule on whether that disclaimer was valid. Once Nelson ruled that the NLRB did not have exclusive jurisdiction to hear this issue, and that it could properly be decided by the court, the rest of the ruling regarding the injunction fell into place.
In doing so, Nelson crafted an opinion that directly relied the 8th Circuit’s prior conservative opinions limiting the scope of what needed to be heard by the NLRB. She found that the various factors did not require her to stay her proceeding for a separate NLRB ruling on that issue, and that the prior NLRB ruling the first time the NFLPA members disclaimed the union, and the delay that would result by waiting on the NLRB, were factors in her being able to rule.
The key issue on the appeal will be whether the 8th circuit agrees that Judge Nelson could properly rule on the disclaimer issue. It was interesting to see that the NFL owners, and not the players, were the ones that insisted the players re-form as a union as part of the previous stipulation and settlement agreement, and the owners had said they would not challenge a future disclaimer of union status as a result. This was not a factor in the decision (Nelson said she was not ruling on the waiver issue of the NFL’s position against the disclaimer now), but it helps explain how we got here, and why the players all along felt like their best option was to be non-unionized and in the realm of anti-trust law, while ownership desperately wants this to be a labor law issue.
I think it’s pretty clear that IF this is an anti-trust issue, that the NFL loses and they can not lockout, because it involves a concerted action to restrain trade. I also think that the NFL would ultimately lose on the merits in a ruling from the NLRB on the disclaimer issue. The NFL, then, is looking for a delay of these rulings, by going through the process of the NLRB, which could allow them to get into the season with a lockout before any ruling comes down. Delay equals victory for the owners.
What is the practical implication of this ruling? Well, even though Judge Nelson’s decision enjoined the lockout and she did not issue a stay of her ruling, the NFL will appeal. If the 8th Circuit does not immediately grant a stay of that ruling, then free agency and the other things that happen in an offseason. If the 8th Circuit grants a stay while they consider the merits of the appeal, it may not mean they will immediately overrule the trial court, but it will maintain the status quo (lockout) until they do decide. While the 8th Circuit has been a conservative circuit, I don’t think this is a clear cut case. The Circuit has also narrowed the scope of the NLRB, something Judge Nelson followed by not deferring to the NLRB on this issue, so they may find her ruling consistent with their prior views toward the NLRB.
And when it comes to football, or politicians and judges in football, I’m never going to predict what someone will do based on their prior perceived ideology in non-football related ventures. After all, it was Richard Nixon, staunch Republican, who pushed through the federal legislation that eliminated the blackout policy because he couldn’t watch his Redskins when they played home games.
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April 26th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
I assume Charlie Batch is going to be a 3rd string QB for the Steelers for the next 50 years.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
I went through the lengthy 89-page decision (so you wouldn’t have to)
And that’s why we love you in a totally-hetero way.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Well said. NFL is toast. Hopefully both sides can agree to put football back on the field.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Where am I shipping these EL Fudge cookies to? I’ll just send them to Arrowhead and you can pick them up there.
Bottom line Lisk, how far up the appellate chain are we looking here?
April 26th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
50 years of Batch as 3rd string > Handful of years of Batch as starter.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Lester Munson considers the federal court ruling to be a legal victory for the owners.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
This is going to the Roberts court (Supereme Court) in my opinion.
/disclaimer – in no way is a laywer
//only got a 148 on his LSAT
April 26th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
/hog nose joke
April 26th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Pussy.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
50 years of Batch as 3rd string > Handful of years of Batch as starter.
Didn’t he lead the Lions to a winning record one season? I’m no theologian but I assume that qualifies someone for sainthood.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
Let’s assume the players are allowed to show back up for work and whatever, if a new deal doesn’t get done does that mean the 2011 season would be played without a CBA in place?
April 26th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
The question, for me, becomes: how much does this ruling demand out of the NFL? So far, it seems like a mess, where players cannot be locked out, but cannot be allowed to use the facilities because it triggers contract clauses and bonus clauses. Even then, those clauses all fall under the old CBA. So how can there be no CBA and yet valid contracts that were created under it?
Delay equals victory for the owners.
Agreed. Delay leads to players running out of cash, which equals a reason to run back to the bargaining table. However, if this decision is as wide-ranging as the NFLTA wants it to be, then players under contract can get their bonuses — and the owners will then bleed money.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
This is going to the Roberts court (Supereme Court) in my opinion.
This shit’s going to the Hague before it’s over…
April 26th, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Yes, there was a time when losing to the Lions (especially in Detroit) was considered acceptable and he was the quarterback for a couple of those years
April 26th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
The NFL advised owners to keep players out of weight rooms and coaches away from players so basically this ruling didn’t do anything.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Nice.
The thing that is most discouraging, and please correct me if I’m wrong, is that the timeframe for a review and ruling if (when) a stay is issued is really anyone’s guess. Could be a while.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
I’m so fucking confused. I thought the players locked out the league because they didn’t agree to the terms the owners were offering?
April 26th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
As I understand things if a player shows up to collect his workout bonus the teams can’t deny him it because they locked the doors, so it did have some impact
April 26th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
He was around pre-Millen. It was a different era, an 8-8 season followed by a 9-7 season.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Lockout.
Strike.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
If the 8th Circuit overrules Nelson’s ruling, they would basically be saying that the players’ decertification was not a valid action–that’s the only way to get around Nelson’s argument that the NLRB doesn’t have the exclusive jurisdiction on the matter. So the 8th Circuit would have to say, in effect, the players need to go back and unionize. Stranger things have happened, but I can’t see a conservative judicial panel issuing a ruling that affirms the primacy of unions in a labor dispute.
Goodell can publish his scare pieces (and that WSJ editorial was such a clumsy, ham-fisted attempt as to be insulting to most readers), and Lester Munson can continue to be wrong, but this ruling was a death blow to the owners’ leverage, and they know it. Goodell and his staff have been telling the owners for 2 years that a lockout would succeed and break the players’ union–and the owners could get their money back. I wonder how many owners are starting to question whether the commish isn’t viewing the world through the proverbial rose-colored glasses….
April 26th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
The NFL advised owners to keep players out of weight rooms and coaches away from players so basically this ruling didn’t do anything.
As the picture above shows Batch and Ryan Clark did show up for a few hours today at the Steelers facility. This article says they need meet with Coach Tomlin.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
No, the players were enjoying the CBA that was in place (still amuses me how everyone still shit all over Gene Upshaw at the time) but the owners exercised an opt-out clause…when the negotiations went south the players union decertified and the owners locked them out, the legality of the latter is what’s in question today
April 26th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
Chaaaaarlie Baaaaatch. Abandon ship!
/Bobby Ross’d
April 26th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
This article says they need meet with Coach Tomlin.
Lets pretend “need” wasn’t in that sentence.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
This is becoming such a ridiculous mess that somewhere on every team there are pr and marketing people hiding in corners hoping they don’t have to explain any of this to the fans.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
I think I’m going to walk away from this until someone says football season is a go.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Why would Goodell have reason to view it otherwise? Up until now he has gotten his way on every issue in favor of himself and the owners.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
The NFL advised owners to keep players out of weight rooms and coaches away from players so basically this ruling didn’t do anything.
As I understand things if a player shows up to collect his workout bonus the teams can’t deny him it because they locked the doors, so it did have some impact
Listening to sports radio, there were apparently reports that some players showed up to their facilities, were led to a conference room, handed a letter from the team’s legal department that said they couldn’t do anything and that was that.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Thank you. Now I understand.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
/fixed
April 26th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
But if there are workout bonuses built into player contracts are you allowed to simply prevent them from working out? I understand why the teams are doing this, liability for potential injury and all that but it still seems like if the players show up the contract says they are to be paid
April 26th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
There’s nothing they could say to me that would repair the damage already done. No, they haven’t missed any games which will ultimately mean the most to me and most fans I’m sure. But, the constant coverage of essentially nothing new and the NFL taking over SportsCenter, talk radio and places I frequent on the internet for sports coverage is infinitely frustrating.
The only news I want reported is when a deal is in place for there to be a season in 2011-12 and beyond. Outside of that, they can bicker in private until one of them decides to share their Duplo blocks with the other. There’s other leagues with actual game action that I would prefer to see pushed to the forefront.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Varied by team, probably depending on how organized and well directed they are by their reps. I don’t think the Eagles had a single player show up. They appeared to have a group workout at some private facility.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
As I read it, bonuses were based on the percentage of team workouts you participated in. If there were no team organized workouts, it doesnt count against you.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
The NHL has highlight shows on Versus and TNT is showing Inside the NBA every night not to mention MLB Network’s existence…use the remote and flip away from ESPN
April 26th, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Espn1000- drose playing tonite no pain killer shot needed. Says has more mobility now then in second half in last game
April 26th, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Huh, maybe this is the sort of thing that if it happened any other offseason the union would fight it but alas there technically is no union right now so there’s nothing they can do about it
April 26th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
But then isn’t your problem with your media choices? There are other options.
I mean, I think this process sucks and I have an opinion about who’s most at fault, but ultimately this shit happens. Both parties deserve to have a fair way to fight for what they think they deserve.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Here’s a decent article breaking down how Goodell is wrong
BTW, apparently, if the players get their way, there would be a 2011 season under last season’s CBA rules. Then, it’s Wild West time if Brady v NFL goes in the players’ favor.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Yup and I saw Winston Justice tweet that he was getting rehab by the Novacare people
April 26th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
That too. Depressing.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
I know. But SportsCenter is my PM closer and I wake up to Mike and Mike so I don’t have to watch SC for the 5th time. During the workday, it’s sports radio. When I’m on the couch after work until I crawl into bed, it’s definitely easier.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Lets see how the mobility feels after playing a half of basketball.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
No, the players were enjoying the CBA that was in place (still amuses me how everyone still shit all over Gene Upshaw at the time) but the owners exercised an opt-out clause…
Always remember that. This has nothing to do with the foundations of the game (as the NHL’s lost year did or how the NBA’s next lockout might). This is all about the owners wanting more out of the CBA and feeling so screwed by the last one that they opted out of the current one, raised an illegal war chest via the next TV deals and refused to deal with the players for 2 whole years.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Also, NFL Live can go get fucked from March-July. Lockout or not, I do not care who missed a goddamn OTA nor do I need to hear Schlereth, Dilfer and Herm breakdown the Panthers practice for me.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
First, you get points for following Winston Justice.
But just to be clear about this. The Eagles “compound” is called the Novacare Complex. And Winston was careful about what he said…
Trying to avoid confusion.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Between the NFL Lockout and the Playstation Network being down, life sucks right now.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Needs more Hazel Mae.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Yeah I understood what he was saying. Sorry I wasnt clear.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Isn’t Winston Justice the guy that got busted for running a prostitution ring out of his dorm room at USC?
April 26th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
And I must confess, I only saw Winston’s tweet because Les Bowen retweeted it
April 26th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
I thought Harold Reynolds was dieing on set last night. MLB Network can be so good, but those guys can be worse than the Sunday FOX pregame clownshow sometimes too.
MLB advertises on lots of local radio broadcasts for MLBNetwork with a “no one can break it down like an 8-time all-star” line, immediately followed by him screaming “AND THAT’S WAAAYYY OUT OF HEERRREE!”
Analysis.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
SC it sounds like maybe you watch too much tv.
robbie gould tweeted that he went to work out at the Bears facility and the doors were locked. didn’t say much else.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
Oh I figured, it was more just general clarification since we were talking about whether players were/could workout at team facilities today.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
I enjoy Mitch Williams on MLB Tonight. He entertains me. Kevin Millar needs to be trotted off to the glue factory though.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Isn’t Winston Justice the guy that got busted for running a prostitution ring out of his dorm room at USC?
And for getting ass-raped by Osi
April 26th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
No.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Mitch Williams and Ripken are decent, but totally agree about Millar.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
You people need to make up your minds. First, it’s watch more sports. Now, it’s you watch too much. I’M GOING TO NEED A PIE CHART, PEOPLE.
/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, pie chart…
April 26th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
Millar is awful…Eric Brynes is getting up there in my MLB Network hate. I do enjoy Leiter and Plesac.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
A bunch of them have been at Power Train in Cherry Hill for a few weeks now.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
CSN Philly replaced Game 6 of the 93 NLCS last night, my god what an ugly man and an ugly throwing motion.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
Leiter is awesome on TV, especially relative to the guys he’s usually surrounded with. Agree completely.
Yep, that’s what I was thinking of. Thanks.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
MLB Tonight is so close to being awesome. But, as is usually the case, the network opts for a circus atmosphere rather than one with informed, analytical one. It doesn’t need to be PBS, but the scales could be tipped a little more towards informing people.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
Jon Daniels isn’t bad either. Decent perspective from a former GM. I prefer to have Amsinger running the desk to Vasgersian.
Joe Magrane looks like he should be doing ads for Men’s Warehouse though. He’s got a real John Houseman name and face.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
No one is as bad as Larry Bowa. He can go diaf.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
I agree with this. They need more analysts and fewer former players. Seriously. Most of those players are fucking horrible at breaking down the game.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
This should be exactly why the others lose on the appeal. Players would be irreparably damaged according to Nelson’s argument.
I don’t know why the Eighth Circuit would be sympathetic the owner’s argument since the usual conservative mindset is anti-union, pro-business and pro free market. The dissolution of the union would be right in their wheelhouse I would think.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Bottom line Lisk, how far up the appellate chain are we looking here?
If you are talking the injunction of the lockout, I think it ends at the 8th with the next ruling. If you are talking all the underlying issues that were not part of the injunction ruling, The merits, they will get messy and involve several steps, perhaps to the top.
April 26th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
Also, NFL Live can go get fucked from March-July. Lockout or not, I do not care who missed a goddamn OTA nor do I need to hear Schlereth, Dilfer and Herm breakdown the Panthers practice for me.
You must watch the NFL Redzone….
/Casual Fan’d