Matt Ryan, Overrated? The Stats Say …
Nobody would deny the “elite” QBs in the NFL are Brady, Rivers, Brees, Roethlisberger and Peyton Manning. Aaron Rodgers joined that group with a tremendous postseason and Super Bowl MVP. A name you were force-fed last year who some deemed ready to make the leap: Matt Ryan (aka Matty Ice). He doesn’t lose at home! He bounced back from a mediocre sophomore season! Reality check: He’s overrated, say the stats.
Keep in mind that his “mediocre” passing numbers also came while playing 10 of his 16 games in domes and going up against a weak schedule. If anything, with some weather and schedule adjustments, Ryan might come out looking quite a bit farther outside of the top ten. He was a winner in 2010; for him to be a winner in 2011, he’s likely going to have to play a whole lot better.
I’ll give you some time to digest the large amount of statistical data and add one non-stats note that counters the “winning” part of this argument: Ryan has led the Falcons to the playoffs in two of his first three years, but he’s 0-2 in two playoff games (loss on the road to the Cardinals; loss at home to the Packers). And yes, Atlanta’s opponents scored 78 points in those two games. Ryan also threw four picks and has a sub 6.0 YPA.
Obviously nobody is saying the Falcons should get rid of Ryan, or that he’s garbage, because he’s still in the top half of QBs in this league. And remember the tale of Paddy Ice!
It might be a wise move to get Ryan another receiver in the draft, assuming a cornerback can’t be had.
Winning vs. Stats: Matt Ryan [Pro Football Reference]

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April 18th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Well Rodgers couldn’t win close games in 2008 and couldn’t win in the playoffs in 09 (Which I can’t believe anyone pinned that on him). So what, the young guy is 0-2 in the playoffs and ran into a buzzsaw that was the Green Bay Packers last year. Small sample sized? I think so.
/Pours one out for Nick P
April 18th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Of course Ryan’s overrated, which is why I found Roddy White’s comments so perplexing.
People shouldn’t checkdown stones in glass houses.
April 18th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Overrated in terms of what? If someone was putting him in the same league as Brady, Rivers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Manning and Rodgers, then yes, he’s overrated.
April 18th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Is there a link to people who were saying Matt Ryan was on the verge of being Brady/Manning/Brees/Rivers that is missing?
April 18th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Nobody denies this!!!!!!!
April 18th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
who says these things with such gusto that exclamation points and italics are warranted?
April 18th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
I think we all knew this already, either way I’m glad to see it.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Matt Ryan, Overrated?
what’s he rated? I have no idea how you have this guy rated to start with.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
bwahahahahah!!!
April 18th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Maybe if fans in Atlanta cared about pro football they would have but alas I only ever heard about him talked up for the “clutch” factor
+ 5 yard curl
April 18th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Pretty soon, every writer in the South will want to arm wrestle “Mr. Big Lead”
April 18th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
listen, if joe flacco is still elite according to MAN WHO GETS PAID TO WRITE AND COVER THE NFL john clayton, calling matt ryan elite isn’t that big of a sin.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
So far, TBL is the only personnel evaluator I’ve seen who has said if he were starting a franchise he’d take Mark Sanchez over Matt Ryan.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Needs more lusting for the return of Michael Vick.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
I swear there was a link like that, but it was suggesting Flacco was elite.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Usually your stuff is on point, Lisk. This…this isn’t.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Christ. He’s still beating that drum?
April 18th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
My first question would be where will my new franchise be located? The San Antonio Cabróns? I’ll take Sanchez.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
hyah.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
He’ll soon be dead after knocking off Peyton Hillis for the Madden cover
As someone who doesn’t believe in the supernatural I’m embarrassed at the mild relief felt when learning that Rodgers was defeated in the voting…chalk one up to the mighty Cleve
April 18th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
lol. very funny.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
So far, TBL is the only personnel evaluator I’ve seen who has said if he were starting a franchise he’d take Mark Sanchez over Matt Ryan.
I just don’t understand the purpose of this. But I appreciate stealing somebody else’s research, dumbing it down to a thinly veiled sanchize comparison and running it up the flagpole. Gives me something to do.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Check the author and you’ll find the explanation.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
And usually people look to see who the author was before commenting on them
April 18th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
//runs of to the EA site to vote furiously for Thundercock
///that sounded really bad
April 18th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
+10 second stare at Derrick Mason
April 18th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Usually your stuff is on point, Lisk. This…this isn’t.
This one is all on TBL.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
So he would also take JaMarcus over Ryan?
April 18th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
I swear there was a link like that, but it was suggesting Flacco was elite.
John Clayton probably owed Joe Flacco’s agent a favor or something. When you watch a ravens game it’s almost impossible not to think that Flacco is the worst player on the field.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Honestly, I think I would take Sanchez for his potential over Ryan.
/Says more about Ryan than Sanchez
//Not personnel evaluator
April 18th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
This one is all on TBL.
nice work Veronica Mars
April 18th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
I’m almost positive he said that. I could be mistaken.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
“Keep in mind that I have no actual way of determining how he would have played in these hypothetical games, but since it’s the slow season outside of the draft…
April 18th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
I’m almost positive he said that. I could be mistaken.
I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking about Jason Lisk, the obvious author of the above synopsis of an article written on some other website.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
It wouldn’t surprise that Ray Murda rips Flacco’s heart out Temple of Doom style.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
ryan’s at least semi-accurate. i like how sanchez throws 10-feet wide of his target on the reg…it’s almost as if rex told him to do that to show off the huge catching radius of his WR’s*.
*wouldn’t be surprised
April 18th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
I’d take Sanchez over Ryan. Better arm (see all the overthrows), better in big games, and he’s nailed way more hot women.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Elite or not this is still one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen in a playoff game…shouldn’t have even been attempting that there which is on the coach but the throw was dreadful on its own merit
April 18th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
you have to got to be fucking with us, clayton!!! how could you say this after watching henne last year? my god man.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Ryan isn’t near elite, but there are only 4-5 elite QBs anyway. Also, the system Atlanta runs will never focus the QB as long as Mularkey is there. I have no clue what Ryan would look like in a wide open system, but within Atlanta’s system, he plays his role fairly well. He certainly needs to improve, but he’s only been playing for 3 years. I’d say he’s done very well this far. They certainly need another weapon on the outside, though.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Clayton also likes Carson Palmer. So there’s that.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
This made me spit up my Cherry Coke Zero. Well done, Rusty (if that’s your real name).
April 18th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
It’s funny how people can’t recall the hype this guy was receiving last season.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
How do they get the calories out of it once they’re already in?
April 18th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Ryan: 62.5%, 3,705 yds, 28 TDs, 9 INTs
Sanchize: 54.8%, 3,291 yds, 17 TDs, 13 INTs
Not sayin…
/just sayin
April 18th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Either I’m out of the loop of some joke or something is flying over my head. Because for the life of me I can’t figure out how anyone would think Lisk has a role in any of that stuff up there. (except for the link to the older piece he wrote)
April 18th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Pretty sure the original List comment was a joke. If it wasn’t, then the commenter lucked into one (though some people are taking it seriously).
April 18th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Out of Horchata?
April 18th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Was that last year? I had no clue Sanchez’s numbers were than bad.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Jake Ryan scooped up more poon than Matt Ryan, that’s for damn sure.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
MaCHETe don’t text.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
NickP has a large sample size of sarcasm.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
“It’s just throwing a football right? It’s impressive, but I’m not in awe”
/Ill’d
April 18th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Yeah… getting engaged at 24 while a star quarterback in a place like Atlanta.
/not team Ryan
April 18th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
hyah.
is that the karate chop sound? if so, i’m stealing it.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
TBL, you have now severely pissed off Phil Simms
April 18th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
It was a tamarind Jarritos, you racist ass.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
I would make a Phil Simms joke about statistics but cj is already on it.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Was that last year? I had no clue Sanchez’s numbers were than bad.
Yep, those are their 2010 regular season stats.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
hyah.
thats the sound he makes when he pelvic thrusts
April 18th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Hence, now and forever, Fraudchez.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
BUT! That doesnt measure the clutchness that is revealed in his eye testification!
April 18th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
“It’s just throwing a football right? It’s impressive, but I’m not in awe”
/Ill’d
when people start running marathons with 11 large men trying to knock their head off, i’ll start giving a shit about marathons.
personally, i like to weigh more than natalie portman and look forward to having the knees to play golf in my 50′s.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
It’s funny how people can’t recall the hype this guy was receiving last season.
I think a lot “us” dismissed it as it was happening, since this guy’s got a checkdown charlie reputation, and Aaron Rodgers was the guy blowing up last year anyway.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
This has a point. I’m an inch shorter, but outweigh the top american male by 50 freakin pounds. WTF??
Also, I’m having back pain when I golf now… might be a problem.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Hence, now and forever, Fraudchez.
sorry, if you have the capacity to throw for under 100 yards in a game, you are a blow pony.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
I’d take Sanchez over Ryan.
Better arm(see all the overthrowslook at those eyes),better in big gamesprobably a better kisser,and he’s nailed way more hot womenand I would love to nail him./obligatory coop gay joke.
//shows self out
April 18th, 2011 at 3:46 PM
God I hate Carson Palmer
April 18th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
well, I have been out refereeing a reader/commenter spat brought on by Spencer drafting for the Bengals, plus pbj and nap time with the girls, and completely missed this one.
April 18th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
I just wanted to use “Spencer Dick” in a Kiper joke…no malice intended
April 18th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
I for one have no problem with Spencer’s pick.
/Spencer dick
April 18th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
i feel my pick was logical and well rationalized, thankyouverymuch.
April 18th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Spencer’s logic and rationale: Get AJ Green to fall to the Browns
April 18th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Suck it Roddy White…
/ Alex Smith’d