Drafting Peyton Manning’s Successor? Not This Year
This weekend, Mike Chappell of the Indianapolis Star ran a piece asking whether the time was getting near when the Colts would have to address the quarterback position. This is one of those off-season pieces that is fueled by the inertia of no actual free agent news in the NFL, combined with Manning not being under contract and the team currently unable to continue negotiations with the lockout.It even includes some quotes from GM Bill Polian on Manning:
Quarterback’s an issue, probably not a front-burner issue, but an issue nonetheless because while Peyton’s not at the end of his career, it’s approaching faster than it has in the past, I wouldn’t rule that out in the right situation.
This seems to be much ado about nothing as we head into 2011. Yes, Manning just turned 35, and just became the parent of twins, which could age him greatly. But it seems a little early to be talking about grooming a replacement, especially this year, with no free agency and high quarterback demand by teams that do really need one. I wouldn’t look for the next Aaron Rodgers to fall to the Colts like the Packers experienced in 2005.
How much time do the Colts have left with Manning at quarterback before they realistically do need to look? Well, I looked at the careers of the other passers in the Super Bowl era who made at least 3 pro bowls between ages 31-34 (Peyton, of course, made 4 over that span, joining only Len Dawson and Steve Young).
Dan Fouts was the youngest when stopped playing quarterback and retired at 36. Jim Hart was done as a full-time starter at 37, but hung around as a part-time player for 3 more years. Elway, Marino, Montana, Favre and Young all retired at age 38. Favre retired at 39, and Unitas and Dawson both started more than half the games for the last time at that age, and retired a year later (Unitas after moving to San Diego at 40). Favre retired at 40. Favre retired at 41, and Moon last started at 42–though he left the Oilers after age 37.
The average for that group was age 38.6 during the last season as the main starter for a team. Most were either 38 or 39 when they retired. Let’s give Peyton the benefit of the doubt relative to that group–he gets rid of the ball quickly, doesn’t take too many hits, and is still playing at a high level. If I’m the Colts, age 39 is probably the target point when you might need someone else as a realistic Plan B.
That’s five years away. By that definition, almost every team should be looking for a quarterback in this draft. Only 10 of the quarterbacks last year started for the same team in 2010 as they did in 2006. In looking at the quarterback situations on the other 31 teams, I would guess that at least 25 of them will have a new starter at quarterback before Manning takes his final snap in a Colts uniform. Good organizations do draft with an eye for the future and don’t just draft for immediate need that off-season. However, the future in many cases means the next 2-3 years, when current starters will be hitting free agency. At a position like quarterback, where you can’t play multiple people at the same time, it seems a waste this early. I would target 2013 or 2014 draft as a realistic possibility. This just seems like some fluff from Polian. Sure, the team needs a backup to challenge Painter, but I don’t think they use a high pick in this draft to do that.
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April 12th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Pretty sure any QB is this draft class is an upgrade over Painter though. They might wanna take a shot if there’s a decent prospect still available in the 3rd round. He can be the QB of the future while taking over the backup role.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:15 PM
I think it’s a bit of a Polian smokescreen, as is their interest in an offensive tackle. I’m thinking they go DT, if Luiget happens to fall to 22.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Love the way you wrote this paragraph. Straight as an arrow.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Dan Fouts was the youngest when stopped playing quarterback and retired at 36. Jim Hart was done as a full-time starter at 37, but hung around as a part-time player for 3 more years. Elway, Marino, Montana, Favre and Young all retired at age 38. Favre retired at 39, and Unitas and Dawson both started more than half the games for the last time at that age, and retired a year later (Unitas after moving to San Diego at 40). Favre retired at 40. Favre retired at 41, and Moon last started at 42–though he left the Oilers after age 37.
I enjoyed this paragraph.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Nice piece, loved the Favre bit.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
The Colts have one of the best qbs ever for maybe five more seasons. They need to give themselves the best chance to win another SB or two in that time period. They need to improve their O-line and probably invest in their interior D-line before they can consider getting a replacement for Peyton.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Nice piece, loved the Favre bit.
It would have been better if you were the third person in a row to copy and paste the entire paragraph.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Of ALL quarterbacks who make it to age 35 season, how long is remaining career length?
I think limiting to only Pro Bowl QBs is too strict.
Certainly talent matters, but it would seem health is of bigger concern, which is probably more random (luck).
April 12th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Jax sports radio callers are suggesting trading two number 1′s to get Manning.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Jax sports radio callers are suggesting trading two number 1′s to get Manning.
/slams head against desk
April 12th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Keep choppin’ wood.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Jax sports radio callers are suggesting trading two number 1′s to get Manning.
Wait, Manning plays for the Memphis Grizzlies now??
April 12th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
They should ask for the bones of Bob Sanders to be included in the deal.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I had no idea Manning was 35, for some reason I thought he was younger than that.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
May be their only hope of staying in JAX
April 12th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
They should ask for the bones of Bob Sanders to be included in the deal.
They had him in for a visit before he signed with the Chargers.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Was surprised to hear this about Tiger Woods as well…1997 was indeed a long time ago
April 12th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
I had no idea Manning was 35, for some reason I thought he was younger than that.
It’s gotta be the Sportscenter commercial with Eli. It reminds me of my brother and I when we were 12 and 15.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
It’d would be amusing if the Jags got washed up 40 year old Manning. Nice parallel to Johnny U with the chargers.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
A bigger priority should be firing the head coach and hiring a real OC.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Due to his quick release, he takes less punishment/sacks than most QB’s, so his body probably is. His arm, however, is what I’d be worried about. He’s thrown nearly 700 passes in each of the past two seasons. That’s just way, way too much. His INT rate in 2010 was actually lower than in 2009 when he was MVP, but his volume of INT’s was higher just because he was throwing it 40 times a game.
That’s fine and dandy to ask of a 28-year-old QB, but when he’s 35 you’re just flirting with disaster. That whole Colts team is held together very precariously right now. If there is a 2011 season, it should make for an interesting one for Indy.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Go the Patriots route… draft a 6th/7th round QB every year, and when one ‘gets it’ keep him around. A lot of picks that low never make the team anyway, and eventually you’ll hit on a guy who can sit and learn and become Tom Brady/Matt Cassell/Brian Hoyer (who has a chance someday)
April 12th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
If there is a 2011 season, it should make for an interesting one for Indy.
And if there wasn’t then you just watched Manning get a year older without getting any production out of him for it.
Although it’s also a year without wear and tear too, so there’s that.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Boom.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
having twins should not age him. i think he can afford some nanny help
April 12th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Michael Bishop. Legend.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Nice write up Lisk. I think Colt fans would be upset if they wasted a draft pick on a QB, especially a 1st round pick. They need a talented lineman, Offensive or defensive, it doesn’t matter.
Also, other than Brady, can anyone else think of a 2nd+ round draft pick that became a above average starting QB for the team that drafted him. You read about drafting and grooming a replacement in later rounds, but it seems that rarely works out. Teams generally get QBs from the 1st round or from other teams.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
It’s gonna suck when 18 retires. He better play until 39 or so.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:37 PM
having twins should not age him.
But how do his wife’s breasts look now?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
April 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Also, this.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Phil Simms
Joe Montana
April 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
I’d be interested to see if the Colts eventually go the Denver route like what they did with Elway – retool the o-line and make running the ball priority #1. Lucking into an MVP running back notwithstanding.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Manning strikes me as the guy who could play past 40 if the colts have a line to protect him.
they’d probably be almost better off getting an amazing running back to prepare for the transition from manning than trying to nail a carbon copy of manning in a draft.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I dunno… Pats got a 34th overall pick for (7th rounder) Cassell, who hadn’t played since high school, and he went 11-5 for them.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
True, he did miss that one play due to injury in his career. When his jaw was broken.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Bob Sanders is a Charger?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
I would think it’s far more pressing for the Colts to worry about a successor for Jeff Saturday than Peyton Manning. In fact, giving Manning a quality O-line should keep him healthy and going into 40-41.
Unless someone like Blaine Gabbert were to tumble into their spot, I see no reason to go searching for a QB. How many heir apparent get drafted every year only to never become anything?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Drew Brees was a 2nd rounder.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
But how do his wife’s breasts look now?
Oh my I am second guessing children now…
April 12th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
isn’t his contract on a play by play basis, null and void after his shoulders fall off, a la the “all steroids olympics” weightlifter on SNL?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
They’d also be better off building a space shuttle out of household appliances rather than trying to nail a carbon copy of manning in a draft.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
They’ve been trying. They’ve drafted several G’s and C’s the past couple years. All of them are horrible. Sad thing is, at this point, Jeff Saturday, while still very adept at all the mental aspects of the position, is kind of horrible at holding up at the point of attack.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
how do half empty water balloons look?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
What would really prolong Peyton’s career would be a stud running back.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Boomer was a second rounder. Legend.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
or steroids.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Schaub was a 3rd rounder (didn’t start for drafting team, but clearly was developed and ended up successful, or at least above average). David Garrard… there’s a few reasonably successful developmental QB’s. I just don’t think you draft a QB 1/2 pre-emptively, unless you are the Green Bay Packers, and get great value from a guy falling.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
I guess I should have limited it to the Free Agency era of the NFL.
Besides, from what I understand, Joe Montana was severely overrated.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Fouts in the 3rd round in ’73
Boomer Esiason was a Bengals 2nd rounder
Randall Cunningham an Eagles 2nd rounder
Mark Rypien a Redskins 6th rounder
April 12th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
All of this.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Simms was the #7 overall pick the year he was drafted.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
I don’t think Peyton should mix steroid with the hGH he’s been taking the past 10 years…
April 12th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
I don’t want to start this debate again, but Addai isn’t garbage. The Colts’ offensive line is. Addai, as a rookie, had a higher YPC than Edge James did in any of his years in Indy. About halfway through 2007, the Colts’ line began eroding (injuries, Glenn retiring, then Scott leaving, then Lilja leaving, Saturday aging). And, for some reason, they drafted an edge runner in Donald Brown who isn’t of much use because he can’t pick up blitzes and his line isn’t stout enough to set the edge and take advantage of his one-cut style.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Bob Sanders is a Charger?
Pretty sure they have a deal in principle, but the work stoppage is holding up the actual contract.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
The Colts could probably afford more line help if Peyton wasn’t making $23m/yr.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
But how do his wife’s breasts look now?
you;d have to wait until the two heads get out of the way
/been there
//seen that
April 12th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
But are they grenade brand?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
My bad on Simms, probably because he wasn’t worthy of being the #7 overall pick.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Stop climbing so high up in the tree… there’s a lot of low-hanging fruit in the ‘above average’ category. Just look at top 15 in passer rating over the past few years, there are quite a few low-drafted QBs
April 12th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Take that up with your beloved players union, who would destroy him if he took less than market value.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Are we looking at just a little sag, or the full washrag on a wall thing?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Montana was a 3rd rounder
April 12th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Fair point.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
But are they grenade brand?
some CNBC or MSNBBC show about how i made my millions had the supersoaker inventor on
he’s rich, invested almost all is earnings into an invention/research company that is making thin batteries for cars
April 12th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
David Garrard was a Jax 4th rounder.
/cue spence breaking everything in his living room out of rage
April 12th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
I think Addai is the RB to pull this off, but it would require a change in offensive philosophy and infusion of run blocking OL. I don’t think just putting Adrian Peterson on the team would make a drastic difference.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
And I cant count the number of times I’ve seen him bawling on camera over it.
/count = 0
April 12th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
what are they going to do if he takes less, remove him from the lawsuit against the NFL? Kick him out?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
/sharpens knife
//waits for someone to agree
/Marino’d
April 12th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Isn’t Schaub the right comparison anyway? Take a 4th-5th rounder from a non-power school, where you get some value, let him develop and see what happens.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
that’s a strange mental picture…
April 12th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
No, but to pretend like they’re not applying pressure…
April 12th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Why would you want a bottom 16 qb in the NFL. Garrard is the perfect example of a slightly below average QB. Good enough to give you (false) hope with a playoff appearance or 2. However, ultimately he won’t win consistently yet his presence prevents your team from getting a more talented QB.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Fitzpatrick is another one. I think he is a decent QB, and would like to see him get a full season and Buffalo build around him. If he’s good, then they get lucky. And if he sucks, they just get Luck.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
yeah, i just think it’s the agents way of trying to make their client seem less greedy.
“gee, we don’t want to take this much money, but we have to b/c the union wants us to set a bar for all players.”
April 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Bob Sanders is a Charger?
Pretty sure they have a deal in principle, but the work stoppage is holding up the actual contract.
Great pick up!
April 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Someone’s been hittin’ the sauce
April 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
That worked awesome with Dave Ragone. And John Beck. And Andrew Walter. I get what you’re saying but it’s a hell of a lot easier said than done.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
I know it’s cool to bag on Brady right now (and probably for all time), but I kinda like the fact that he has a chip on his shoulder (you know, hidden beneath that perfectly coifed hair and all).
/No homo
//Still take Breesus, though
April 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
I just went by passer rating, and had clicked on 2009 and not 2010. I don’t think he’s great, but he’s probably right around average, and a useful 4th round pick. He’d be a good backup to Manning/insurance policy for the next few years until they find a first rounder they love. Which was the whole point of the exercise.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I don’t want to start this debate again, but Addai isn’t garbage. The Colts’ offensive line is.
I agree with you. My point is that a stud rb could take some pressure off him, like elway and Terrell Davis. For example, can u imagine if they traded for Steven jackson when the rams were horrible, even if it meant giving up more? Your point about shoddy o line play is well taken, but I’d like the colts at least try something new.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Can’t wait for La Russa’s reaction when Pujols goes to the Cubs.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
By the crew lifting him onto the stretcher?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
La Russa said in recent days that he believes Pujols and agent Dan Lozano were getting pressure to “set the bar” on the new deal from the players’ association, a stance the union denied.
Someone’s been hittin’ the sauce
Probably, but it doesn’t mean he’s wrong either. The MLB Player’s Union is not above Machiavellian moves like this.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
/Nate Davis
//Colt Brennan
///John Beck
////Brodie Croyle
/////Keep wasting picks
April 12th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Terrell Davis line > Terrell Davis
April 12th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
i get it, he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do to motivate himself. but if he’s 10 years retired, in the HOF, polishing his super bowl rings and trophies, married to a super model and millions in the bank, he better quit with that chip on his shoulder shit.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Great pick up!
will he be in community relations?
/or is my sarcasm thingy not working?
April 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Oh, it’s going to be awful, I’m just saying, the players union wants them to get as much as possible. Hopefully, they can structure Manning’s deal to where they can still sign a mid-tier FA or two. Or he can eventually restructure it for cap relief, like he already has a couple times.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
But he has a learning disability!
/wanking motion
//fuck you Singletary
April 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Can’t wait for La Russa’s reaction when Pujols goes to the Cubs.
I think I would simultaneously laugh and cry at this. Laugh at Cards fans for losing one of the best hitters of the last 50 years, laugh at Cubs fans because their team would drastically overpay, and cry because the Astros will continue to get beat down by Albert in divisional play for several more years.
/Please go to the Yankees or Sox, Albert.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
True. Gotta keep in mind I’m biased by Patriots luck/system… but they had quite a few fails. Brady and Cassell and Hoyer are 3 of 10 (Kingsbury, Bishop, O’Connoll-3 rounder) so you just really need to pick a lot and sort them out. Still safer/cheaper/easier to do when you have a good starter, than to use a 1st rounder on a QB that isn’t a sure thing.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Becauise top 10 QBs aren’t just walking around all the time even though people like to pretend that they are.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
maybe they can just add the title of coach so they can give him a coach salary of a couple million a year that doesn’t count towards player salary and allows them to pay their players.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Great pick up!
By the crew lifting him onto the stretcher?
So you are assuming he will actually be on a football field at some point?
/very optimistic
April 12th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
And it’s not the first time it’s been talked about. When CC signed his contract, it was brought up and when Santana was traded from the Twins it was mentioned.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
blaine gabbert fantasyland.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Becauise top 10 QBs aren’t just walking around all the time even though people like to pretend that they are.
Jeff George is….
April 12th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
They should sign a QB who didnt get drafted at all, imagine the size of the chip on his shoulder. He’ll be downright unstoppable with all that motivation.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Becauise top 10 QBs aren’t just walking around all the time even though people like to pretend that they are.
how would a jets fan know what one looks like?
/too easy
//couldn;t pass it up
///you know more fb than me
April 12th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Ah yes, a variation on the Emmitt Smith Rule.
/pretends to masturbate
April 12th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Seriously, why does every football have to bring up Ohio State?
April 12th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
It’s actually not really Manning’s deal that’s killing them. The ones that kill them are the Bob Sanders contract, the Kelvin Hayden contract, the Ryan Diem contracts. Contracts where they’re paying guys top-10 money at their positions who are either returning below-average production (Diem) or are consistently out of the lineup (Sanders, Hayden). Those are the contracts that kill you. I doubt anyone in the Colts’ front office is bitching about Manning and Freeney not living up to their contracts.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
This is just wrong. It would be a wasteful 4th round pick.
A) Manning plays in every meaningful snap for the Colts.
B) he would not be a good back up bc as a 4th rounder, he would lack talent and/or grasp of the ofense.
C) Insurance policy for what? Manning goes down, so do the Colts chances.
D) I am sure the 1st Rounder they love/draft would rather have a developed 4th round G blocking for him then a QB backing him up.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
i get it, he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do to motivate himself. but if he’s 10 years retired, in the HOF, polishing his super bowl rings and trophies, married to a super model and millions in the bank, he better quit with that chip on his shoulder shit.
Except for his Hall of Fame speech. You gotta be kind of a douche about being passed over when you have the mic on a big stage like that.
/Jordan’d
And hey, with all that said, Montana is still the GOAT for quarterbacks.
/Hopes he didn’t light the Ballz signal
April 12th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
/high fives heldover
April 12th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
/Hopes he didn’t light the Ballz signal
Don’t worry, it’s only 10 a.m. here on the West Coast…
April 12th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Need to be careful… it happened to the NHL, and it’s about to in the NBA/NFL. If the players make too much and their salaries rise unsustainably, it won’t work… you can shear a sheep a bunch of times, but you can only skin it once.
Remember the housing crisis that happened because everyone bought into Clinton’s pushing houses onto people who couldn’t afford them, so everyone kissed his ass for promoting unsustainable growth?
April 12th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
Not out of the glue coma yet?
April 12th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
now that i think of it, jets QB is top 10
sorry jerz
April 12th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
On later round quarterbacks:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=347
It’s old, and it always makes me cringe to read stuff I wrote a long time ago. But it breaks down any late round qb from 1983-2002 you may want.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
If Peyton Manning got injured 2 games into the season, the Colts wouldn’t be able to get a QB as good as Garrard, and I don’t think they play 14 games with Painter as starter.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Thanks Jason, I’ll check it out.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
(Shudders)
April 12th, 2011 at 1:12 PM
+1 Glen Beck rant
April 12th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
it happened to the NHL, and it’s about to in the NBA/NFL. If the players make too much and their salaries rise unsustainably, it won’t work
What’s amazing to me is that after a decade of Kevin Brown, Mike Hampton, Carlos Beltran, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Tejada, CC Sabathia, etc. contracts, we haven’t reached that point yet.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
Any QB they draft in the 4th this year wil not be nearly as good as Garrard. In fact I bet Painter will be better than all of them strictly by being experienced with the offense.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
Then we can pencil in Andrew Luck as the Manning successor.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Eh… I’m not very partison in that I hate both parties (and despise Beck), but the housing problems did start under Clinton, with deregulation of lending (both parties supporting it) and pushing people to buy houses they couldn’t afford (also Clinton). Everyone is complicit, but to give Clinton a pass because there was a balloon when he was in office, and the snap-back got put on someone else, isn’t entirely fair.
/Liberal only want Fox to be fair and balanced
April 12th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
sonofabitch
/partisAn
April 12th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
That is the one thing that has been interesting about the Manning Era is that lack of quality backs-up.Doesn’t it seem like normally when you have a Franchise QB like that,you groom your back up QB’s to nice level and then trade them off for higher draft picks then you got them, just surprised this hasn’ happen at all while he was the starter
Examples just off the top of my head
Favre – Hassleback, Mark Brunell, think Aaron Brook also backed him up
Brady-Cassell
Vick- Matt Cassel ( that turned to 2 be egg in the face)
Pretty sure Andy Reid also did it with McNabb though I can’t rem any of the players names
April 12th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
I think the hit rate for QB’s drafted outside the first two rounds (if we define hit as something along the lines of Bulger) is around 10%. So there’s a 90% chance of failure if you go that route, plus a good chance they succeed with another team after sitting your bench.
FWIW, I think Ricky Stansi is a guy that would be worth a 5th or 6th round flier for me. He kind of reminds me of guys like Bulger and Green when they were in college.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Is that a compliment?
/Fuck, the….. mountainEERS!
April 12th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
AJ Feeley. Miami gave up a 2nd rounder for him.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Is that a compliment?
Marc Bulger was better than 90% of the guys drafted after round 2, so yes. With a good offense, someone like that can work. When the line dissolved and the talent deteriorated, he fell apart.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
Marc Bulger was better than 90% of the guys drafted after round 2, so yes.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
So basically just keep drafting guys out of Oakland Central Catholic? If that Marino guy pans out, maybe it can be known as more than just a shortcut for drunk kids going back to Carnegie Mellon…