Manny Ramirez Retired. How Do We Evaluate His Legacy?
Manny Ramirez was one of his generation’s best hitters. He sullied it all by getting popped twice for performance enhancing drugs. His legacy is noteworthy, loaded and controversial. How we perceive it will evolve with our changing perception of the sport.
His Cooperstown candidacy is uncertain. He wouldn’t be elected today, but he won’t be considered for another five years. He will have 15 years of eligibility beyond that. How we view baseball and performance enhancing drugs over that time may transform radically.
Sabermetrics are altering the baseball paradigm, shifting our focus from compiled, countable stats to objective and more statistically meaningful reflections of value. Cumulative home run totals and similar stats are becoming far less relevant now. They will, as well, when future players are assessed.
This paradigm shift has shattered the myth of the homogeneous baseball record book. Baseball has had the same name, but been a radically different game depending on circumstances. Comparing raw numbers across eras is unfair and not very useful. If players are no longer judged across eras, sacrosanct touchstones such as “61” and “755” hold far less weight. The stigma for PED users breaking them becomes far less intense.
Asterisk debates are passe. Manny Ramirez will be judged against his peers. In his case, the peers he dominated – 12-straight seasons with a 140 OPS+ or higher – were often taking steroids, HGH and amphetamines as well.
Manny’s disgrace may keep him from the Hall of Fame, but does Cooperstown even matter? The voting process has been endlessly scrutinized. Induction isn’t the mark of immortality it was once perceived to be. It’s the collective, controversial whim of aging sportswriters many of whom (a) hold personal grudges and (b) remain willfully ignorant of the sport they cover.
It’s madness, with votes subject to arguments such as Jim Rice being “capable of inducing an intentional walk with the bases loaded” used as justification when Jim Rice never induced an intentional walk with the bases loaded. Some writers will address history honestly and dispassionately. Some will clamber up Mt. Pious to make a sanctimonious moral stand. The respective numbers of each is largely irrelevant.
For me, Manny Ramirez’ legacy is personal. I’ll remember the visceral enjoyment of watching him play baseball.
I’ll remember Fenway erupting when he turned a game with a three-run homer. I’ll remember a taunting Cleveland crowd turned to abrupt silence when he took C.C. Sabathia’s pitch 400-feet to the opposite field. I’ll remember his playful grins on the exceedingly rare occasions when he decided to try on defense and gunned down a runner or saved a home run with a stupendous catch. I’ll remember the palpable momentum when he had “the look.”
Most of all I’ll remember 2004 and Manny’s pivotal role in the greatest sports drama I will ever experience.
The steroids taint hurts. It stains his achievements. He did cynically risk his public esteem to make more than $200 million, though most would demean themselves much further for far less. Manny wasn’t a hero. He was a human and, for most of his 19-year career, he was an incredibly entertaining one.
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April 9th, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Poz had a great column about Manny last night.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Great hitter, one of the very best of his era. Will fall victim to the writer’s need to feel they’re on a crusade against steroids as if this is there Watergate moment. Except in their case they were well behind curve on this case. IMO, if we’re going to keep players out of the Hall because of PED, we should also keep the writers of that generation out as well for their acceptance of it that preceded their outrage.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
One of the best hitters in today’s game. One of the cornerstones of the Red Sox title teams. Manny being Manny.
I don’t think the steroids tag will hit him as hard as it has most other players for the simple reason that his force of personality allowed him to get away with so many other things. He’ll be regarded like the spitballers of the past — an aberration.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Of course it is, everything you will ever remember about Manny is personal.
Yet, He never wanted to leave Cleveland, to the disgust of yo bastards here at TheBigLead….He fucking loved Cleveland.
I remember a story that BSanders told that I’ve never heard before (I think it was sanders, and I’ve heard plenty of stories about Manny)about how Manny wouldn’t leave Cleveland unless his BP pitcher would come with him and his BP
April 9th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Gat damnit.. cont..
and his BP pitcher said Manny never even talked to him and had no idea what his name was…. that’s Manny and that’s why he is so fascinating.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
nice post Duffy. Agreed that being enshrined in the HOF means less and less these days. Sadly some people had to use Manny’s retirement to bash Mark McGwire for PED use and say Manny was better than him, which is false. (and why they picked McGwire seems a bit random to me)
April 9th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
at any rate, another good post I like from duffy for the 2nd day in a row.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
If players are no longer judged across eras, sacrosanct touchstones such as “61” and “755” hold far less weight.
61 didn’t get Maris in the Hall of Fame. Just sayin’.
/that guy’d.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
baseball is a dying game. who makes the HOF will be a question of interest for only those that hold onto the idea that this game is still worth attention.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Right now Vic that’s still a large majority of this country. That’s quite the slow death.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
I’m sympathetic to this argument because the mainstream sporting press (the ones that like to tout their journalistic training and look down on bloggers) completely dropped the ball on the steroid story.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
wow, Tiger loves the pine needles on 11.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
In the end, as fans, this is all that matters.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:07 PM
but does Cooperstown even matter?
it seems to, to the players
Induction isn’t the mark of immortality it was once perceived to be.
they make a bust of your head. I think out of unobtainium.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
so what I really want to know (from Duffy, or anybody who feels like answering) is how you rank the steroid guys in terms of HOF candidacy.
Assign a 1-6, with 1 being likeliest to get in, for Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Palmiero, this guy, and some other random guy you want to disparage with steroid accusations whose name I’m forgetting because I’m midday drunk.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
This was excellent duffy.
Assign a 1-6, with 1 being likeliest to get in, for Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Palmiero, this guy, and some other random guy you want to disparage with steroid accusations whose name I’m forgetting because I’m midday drunk.
They all get a six for the nest 20-25 years, then most of them get a 1.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
I was just at Cooperstown this week (even as it snowed outside).
Still a cool way to spend day as a fan.
They ought to just have a section that deals with “dark clouds of MLB history” (segregation, steroids, Joe Buck).
April 9th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
Holy shit. Where is Jay V? Uncle Mo just choked his ass off at the Wood Memorial.
April 9th, 2011 at 6:44 PM
What I’ll remember most about him is that his first 1 and a half seasons with the Dodgers was the most exciting time to be a Dodger fan in the last 20 years.
April 9th, 2011 at 6:51 PM
Wow that birdie putt for Rory was awesome.
April 9th, 2011 at 7:30 PM
1. Cooperstown matters. It’s only 90 minutes from where I live!
2. Boston pitchers fail to realize that fastballs down the middle usually get hit out of the park by the Yankees
3. Oh Manny. I appreciate him helping the Sox get two titles in my lifetime but I don’t think he’ll make the HOF unless the writers start letting all the roiders in.
4. Let me be one of the few to say it: Airing spring football on national TV is a fucking waste of airtime. Who the hell cares about an LSU scrimmage? GET THE HELL OFF THE TV IN APRIL!
April 9th, 2011 at 7:46 PM
Why is this false? Doesnt he have better numbers in every significant offensive stat?
April 9th, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Manny was better than McGwire.
The HOF is becoming a joke, if it’s not one already. If Manny is left out, then it’s official.
April 9th, 2011 at 8:53 PM
Bonds will get in 2 years after Griffey. His punishment will be to not be a first time balloter, but his numbers before the supposed PED’s already had him HOF worthy. Sosa isn’t getting in. Clemens in 15 to 20 years. The difference between Bonds and Clemens is Clemens seemed to be on the downside of his career when he supposedly started using, while Bonds was in his prime.
April 9th, 2011 at 8:54 PM
Manny is in a similar position as Bonds.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:11 PM
How do we evaluate his legacy? We start by allowing a bit more than one effing day to pass before we try to evaluate his legacy.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Hmmm. I appear to be incorrect on the Manny > McGwire thing. Maybe I should have looked closer at McGwire’s stats.
April 10th, 2011 at 9:21 AM
Firstly, a large majority of this country are noot even sorts fans. Seondly, check the tv ratings, you think people don’t care to look at the games but they are discussing hof worthiness? Very few people care. Just
because people go to games mostly to enjoy the weather, does not mean
avast majority care abut what basebal nuts lose sleep over.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Badly.