This. Even if you’re an end of the bench NBA player, you will have a lot more time to work on your game.

And is there any evidence to suggest that players are actually better served with another year in college? I don’t always think guy like Thabeet flame out because they didn’t have more time in college. I think it really comes down to the fact that they’re not good basketball players.

I guess you would have to look at guys who stayed 2+ years in the pros and see how their pro careers are going and think what the liklihood of success is if they left after 2 years. Is Tyler Hansbrough going to get much PT off the Pacer bench after his Sophmore year vs at least his jr year? Hard to say, but I don’t think so. Your phenoms will get their PT but other guys need the actual gametime to improve. There’s no clear cut answer as not every pro player is an athletic freak. A lot have to work at that shit.

With the NCAA restrictions on how much time a coach can spend with their team during and after the season, the seasoning a player can receive in college is highly overstated.

This. Even if you’re an end of the bench NBA player, you will have a lot more time to work on your game.

And is there any evidence to suggest that players are actually better served with another year in college? I don’t always think guy like Thabeet flame out because they didn’t have more time in college. I think it really comes down to the fact that they’re not good basketball players.

Singler : Budinger ??

The only thing Kyle Singler has in common with Chase Budinger is that he is really tall and really white. Terrible comparison.

Singler is not that tall really and his skill set is somewhat similar to Luke Babbitt and Gordon Hayward, which is probably why he sat out last draft. Hayward has a bit of a quicker drive and Babbitt was a more consistent outside shooter. Singler can shoot off a screen fairly well and defend. His 3 point shot was awful this year and he should probably never use it in the Pros.

Not so fast my friend. I think Jeff Teague’s freshman numbers at WF were better than Pauls and he left after one year. Their NBA careers well…does Jeff Teague still have an NBA career?

Both left after two. Paul’s numbers were much better anyway.

The only thing Kyle Singler has in common with Chase Budinger is that he is really tall and really white. Terrible comparison.

Probably better.

Not so fast my friend. I think Jeff Teague’s freshman numbers at WF were better than Pauls and he left after one year. Their NBA careers well…does Jeff Teague still have an NBA career?

Jermaine O’Neal and Tracy McGrady right off the top of my head.

Amir Johnson
Kwame Brown
Darko
Chris Wilcox

All dudes who sucked initially (some would say they still suck), but were able to secure a second (or third) contract in the NBA.

How will it help him developmentally when there’s a chance nobody wants him on their team because he hasn’t shown anything? He could have been working on his game in college and then gone to the league and potentially made MORE over the long run. His short-sightedness for dollar signs will most likely cost him dollars in the long run because of his lack of skill right now.

With the NCAA restrictions on how much time a coach can spend with their team during and after the season, the seasoning a player can receive in college is highly overstated.

Then why hasn’t he done anything yet? He could have been playing 30 minutes a night for an entire year refining his skills and playing in meaningful tournament games.

Define nothing.

He’s been down in the D-League working on his game. Averaging 15/7 this season, good enough to get a call-up last night.

Not true (according to maybe Steve Kerr on Simmons’ pod, or someone, I forget). You don’t get as much practice as you think, and evidence shows very few draft picks who start as 10th men, and work their way up getting better with time. They either get playing time initially and go through growing pains on the court, or waste away.

Jermaine O’Neal and Tracy McGrady right off the top of my head.

They may suck bc they didn't get time, or didn't get time bc they suck, but either way could have used another year of school/experience.

The practice time at the professional level alone would be worth more than the 30ish games against sub-par talent.

Not true (according to maybe Steve Kerr on Simmons’ pod, or someone, I forget). You don’t get as much practice as you think, and evidence shows very few draft picks who start as 10th men, and work their way up getting better with time. They either get playing time initially and go through growing pains on the court, or waste away.

The practice time at the professional level alone would be worth more than the 30ish games against sub-par talent.

Then why hasn’t he done anything yet? He could have been playing 30 minutes a night for an entire year refining his skills and playing in meaningful tournament games. What team is going to give him any type of decent money based on what he’s shown to this point? He’s more likely to be out of the league in 3-4 years than he is being on an all-star team, or hell even an average contributor.

Just hope it wasn’t a knee-jerk hire because of the whole situation like say, Brad Childress was, in light of the Love Boat thing.

Truthfully I think it was a combination of a knee jerk hire and the reality of the situation. He’s another coach who is going to be very happy to be the Tennessee coach (like Pearl was) and is a high character and hard working guy. I recognize that the hot names out there were not going to come to Tennessee especially given the climate around the program right now, but I still wish they would have at least given it a shot. It seemed a little premature. No harm in waiting another week or so, but hey, it’s done. We’ll see. Dude has a massive uphill battle. Massive. Frankly I’ll be surprised if we’re ever anywhere near as relevant again as we were with Pearl.

And Tom, BJ has another $1.2 million coming to him in 2011-12 while he trie to figure it all out.

Had he stayed another year that number could have been greater.

I think psyche and confidence have a lot to do with a players success/failure at the next level. Getting crushed, even in practice, isn’t going to help. But there’s really no quantifiable way of knowing either way.

for his second contract? No. Developmentally wise? No question it is.

How will it help him developmentally when there’s a chance nobody wants him on their team because he hasn’t shown anything? He could have been working on his game in college and then gone to the league and potentially made MORE over the long run. His short-sightedness for dollar signs will most likely cost him dollars in the long run because of his lack of skill right now.

That’s all true, but is playing in the D League or being the 10th man on an NBA team better than playing in college? I don’t think so.

The practice time at the professional level alone would be worth more than the 30ish games against sub-par talent.

And Tom, BJ has another $1.2 million coming to him in 2011-12 while he trie to figure it all out.

Not really many thoughts at all. Still very bitter with the Bruce Pearl situation. It’s pretty hard to be excited about a relative no-name coach to replace the best coach your school has ever had, despite the NCAA stuff. Time will tell. By all accounts he is a good dude and winner, I’m just not sure he was deserving of the job.

Just hope it wasn’t a knee-jerk hire because of the whole situation like say, Brad Childress was, in light of the Love Boat thing.