Comments on: Let’s Look at All of Bill Self’s Choke Jobs

By: mattmcds22

mattmcds22 — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:32:23 +0000

A “choke” is often a misdiagnosis in the sports world. An actual “choke” can range from one play by one player to a series of games by a whole team. The 1997 KU loss to AZ was not a teamwide, game-long choke. Yesterday’s KU loss, however, was just that. I mentioned to a friend of mine that I don’t think I have ever seen a whole team, in any sport, at any level, as tight throughout the course of any game as KU was yesterday. It showed in every aspect. Obviously the coach bears some responsibility, and if it is a trend, it is obviously something he does that brings it on. As evidence, did anyone read Self’s lips 6-7 mins. into the game when, after a bad call vs. KU, he said “how many calls can you blow in one game”? He said this not in the 35th minute, but 6 minutes into the game! Wow. That statement spoke of fear, paranoia, and desperation. In any event, I would argue comfortably that KU’s performance yesterday was a teamwide choke of the greatest magnitude.

By: Brad Clooney

Brad Clooney — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:42:38 +0000

Duke wasn’t one of the favorites to win it all last year

maybe according to whatever mythical creature you believe in. But they were ranked #1 KenPom before the tournament. I am fairly certain that makes them a favorite

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:51:41 +0000

Bill Self missed way too many free throws yesterday. Fire him.

By: truly101

truly101 — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:24:17 +0000

Can we make Gordon Heyward’s shot last year go in and call Duke a bunch of chokers since they haven’t won since 2001 losing as a #1 many times along the way?

Well outside of the make believe scenario, Duke wasn’t one of the favorites to win it all last year, KU and UK were. Even all that whiney conspiracy faggotry has to admit that even Duke didn’t get the luxury of playing a 9, 12 and 11 seed to get to the final four, which they play Butler without Hayward, and not in their hometown. KU choked, plain and simple.

By: Triston27

Triston27 — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:12:03 +0000

Take that title away and what team has choked more in the tournament in the past decade then Kansas? NONE!

Name me one team that has more tournament wins in the last decade than Kansas. Know how many you will find? NONE!

By: txhacker

txhacker — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:31:13 +0000

Say hello to Raef Lafrentz!

By: Jason Lisk

Jason Lisk — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:47:05 +0000

Based on this post/convo: Play my new Sporcle quiz. Active Coaches with at least 1 ring: http://www.sporcle.com/games/ambition/active-ncaa-basketball-champion-coaches

Bill Self is in relatively elite company here.

Got it in time working backwards, but had to go a ways for the last one.

By: gfunk supreme

gfunk supreme — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:51:54 +0000

Based on this post/convo: Play my new Sporcle quiz. Active Coaches with at least 1 ring: http://www.sporcle.com/games/ambition/active-ncaa-basketball-champion-coaches

Bill Self is in relatively elite company here.

By: hit700andtossedanono

hit700andtossedanono — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:35:41 +0000

butters i only speak for me, but yes

By: Jim Harbaugh Scramble

Jim Harbaugh Scramble — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:32:29 +0000

Love these posts.

/hater in the house.

By: ButtersBC

ButtersBC — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:28:50 +0000

Can we make Gordon Heyward’s shot last year go in and call Duke a bunch of chokers since they haven’t won since 2001 losing as a #1 many times along the way?

By: RobJules

RobJules — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:21:56 +0000

I’m obviously a little bitter, but they never deliver when they’re expected and it’s usually a result of a poor game, not just being beat by a better team. This year the road was paved for them from after the first round on. Come on, they’ve been a #1 seed 5 times since 2002, no seed lower than a 4 since, few teams have had that setup and not delivered a better resume.

By: hit700andtossedanono

hit700andtossedanono — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:21:47 +0000

know what fabtasy i had as i listened to calipari’s postgame?

reporter: coach could you do with butler what brad stevens is, or what shaka is doing at vcu?

Calipari: i’d like to think so.

reporter: then why do you cheat to get 5-star recruits?

Calipari: i’d like to think so

By: gfunk supreme

gfunk supreme — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:09:49 +0000

Wow, RobJules. That was quite the comment. I don’t really care about KU either way but 4 elite eights in 8 years, plus a title (I know TBL loves to do this, but you can’t really just ‘take it away’). Obviously it could be better, but that’s not bad. I think KU to some extent has had the misfortune of losing to mid-majors as opposed to mediocre Big Six teams which doesn’t help.

By: RobJules

RobJules — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:00:45 +0000

Thank you for this. Would he still have the Kansas job if it wasn’t for the Memphis choking for him?! Take that title away and what team has choked more in the tournament in the past decade then Kansas? NONE!

By: Ballz

Ballz — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:25:20 +0000

How does a coach choke away games?

By: Cassington

Cassington — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:17:22 +0000

But for overall Kansas chokes, the 1997 loss to Arizona – when the Jayhawks entered the tourney with just one 2-point loss – probably is the program’s worst. That team had four players who spent considerable time in the NBA (LaFrentz, Pierce, Pollard, Vaughn).

Yeah they should be ashamed losing to that team with scrubs such as Jason Terry, Mike Bibby, Michael Dickerson, Miles Simon which went on the win the National Championship.

It’s called research how about doing some next time.

By: ATL_Badger

ATL_Badger — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:31:53 +0000

The usage of choke and clutch in 2011 are still amusing.

Yep.

Bill Self really didn’t shoot threes well today. Hell he didn’t even make any.

He was terrible at free throws too. Kansas was 15-28 from the line and lost by 10… how was this loss Self’s fault? I’d argue that all the losses that we’ve seen in this tourney where a the team craps away there last possession and takes a terrible shot (i.e. North Carolina, Florida, etc.) are more the coaches fault than this one.

By: Brad Clooney

Brad Clooney — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:27:47 +0000

Bill Self really didn’t shoot threes well today. Hell he didn’t even make any.

By: spankadank

spankadank — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:50:05 +0000

Every smart KU fan saw this coming. They always lay one stinkbomb per tourney. VCU shot lights out… Then went dead legs… Then went lights out again. KU tried to play that game instead of hammering them down low. This was definitely a choke job, and one that Roy was just as likely to make as Self. Way to capitalize Rams.