Ballin’: Carmelo Anthony on Game-Winner – “I Do This”; Doc Rivers on Loss to Clippers – “No one Cried”
New York 110, Memphis 108: The Knicks nearly wasted a 17-point lead, but Carmelo Anthony saved the day with a step-back jumper in Tony Allen’s face with :00.5 left. Melo proceeded to shout to the Memphis bench, “I do this.” Favorite number about the win: 31 assists (Toney Douglas had 10) on 47 baskets. Billups didn’t play. Bizzaro: Knicks 12-of-24 from three, only 4-of-4 on free throws; Grizzlies 3-of-5 from three, 33-of-35 on free throws. Memphis continues to play its best ball of the season without its $81 million man.
LA Clippers 108, Boston 103: The same Mo Williams famous for playoff chokes with the Cavs scored 28 points and DeAndre Jordan added 21 as the Paper Clips, normally inept on the road, shocked the Celtics in the Garden, where they have the 3rd best home record in the league. Kevin Garnett, perhaps hoping to beat up on Blake Griffin, attempted an uncharacteristic 19 shots. He’s only attempted that many once this season (20 on Nov. 8 vs Dallas). Doc Rivers made a crying joke.
Oklahoma City 110, Philadelphia 105: Kevin Durant curled off a screen and drained a 3-pointer with :06 left to send the game to overtime. In OT, KD (34 points, 16 rebounds) and Russell Westbrook (27 points, 12 assists) knocked the 76ers 1.5 games back of the Knicks in the battle for the 6th spot in the East. Still haven’t seen the best the Thunder have to offer – with Perkins and Robinson injured – but Nazr looked decent starting (8 points, 6 rebounds in 19 minutes), and Nick Collison was strong off the bench (13-10 in 31 minutes). Throw in Ibaka and Perkins and the Thunder have enough to get to the Western Conference Finals.
Orlando 106, Sacramento 102: At least they didn’t lose again to the Tyreke Evans-less Kings. Gilbert Arenas was turnover-free in 17 minutes (12 points).
Dallas 92, New Orleans 93: The reeling Hornets, playing without Chris Paul, dominated the 4th quarter and stunned the unimpressive Mavericks at home. (If the season ended today, these two would play in the first round.) Trevor Ariza was 0-10 in 40 minutes. He played better as a reserve with the Lakers two years ago than he has as a starter.
Chicago 101, Charlotte 84: Was prepared to skip this game, but then I saw Gerald Henderson get all circus-y and score another 20 points, I figured I might as well make the Duke contingent happy. And now, the bad news: Carlos Boozer tweaked an ankle. X-Rays were negative (wipes brow). I’ve got the Bulls in the Finals – assuming they can stay ALL stay healthy.
Utah 96, Toronto 94: DeMar DeRozan has some Vince Carter in him, right? Kid’s gonna get paid in a few years. If he ever gets a reliable jumper (4-for-16 last night, attempted only 32 three-pointers this year), you could be looking at a Tracy McGrady-type player.
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March 10th, 2011 at 10:31 AM
LeBron cried.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:31 AM
:00.5 left? Thats not a buzzer beater.
/LeBron hater’d
March 10th, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Glad that the Pistons ban is still in effect.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:33 AM
/Second’d
March 10th, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Didn’t realize the two liked each other that much.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:34 AM
:00.5 left? Thats not a buzzer beater.
/LeBron hater’d
Skip Bayless was on LeBatard’s show the other day talking about how LeBron James didn’t have the “clutch gene” because he only has one “walk-off” game winning shot. He wouldn’t count shots that he made with a second or two still on the clock. This is the same Skip Bayless that said Aaron Rodgers didn’t have the “clutch-gene” because he lost to the Cardinals in the playoffs last year. (Apparently he just ignored the fact Rodgers threw for about 7000 yards in that game)
March 10th, 2011 at 10:36 AM
He also has a pretty weak handle and needs to work on his defence…a lot. I like the kid but he’s got a lot of work to do if he wants to be anything other than a slasher. Divine intervention would be required for him to ever approach what Vince or Tracy were in their primes.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:37 AM
To the Grizzles. Congrats Melo. What else would you say ya do here?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Wats
When does MSU play Iowa?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:37 AM
ATL_Badger,
Heard that too. Skip Bayless is at least slightly insane. But his brother makes a mean Fire Roasted Tomato Salsa.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:39 AM
In the second quarter the Celtics trotted out a lineup of Carlos Arroyo, Sasha Pavlovic, Jeff Green, Troy Murphy, and Nenad Krstic. And that’s when I turned off the tv.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:39 AM
I hope this Heat crying meme is their legacy.
/knows it won’t
March 10th, 2011 at 10:43 AM
THEIR BABIES!!!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Love that 3 of the best coaches in the leauge have all taken shots at the Heat
March 10th, 2011 at 10:45 AM
he’s 21. the key will be worth ethic. does he have it? APparently, mcgrady didn’t. Kobe did.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
This whole crying this is already on the verge of being played out worse than Charlie Sheen. Let’s please move on.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 AM
their = they’re
March 10th, 2011 at 10:48 AM
No idea. I forgot that game was even today. I’ve been CRAZY busy this week. Doing this.
/toots own horn
March 10th, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Not bizzaro. Grizzlies got wicked aggressive with their deeper team. Knicks were pretty gassed in the second half after going completely balls out. Look at the guys that took the majority of the FTs for the Grizz: Their point guard (Arthur) and their two bigs.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Lol. God I hate Bulls fans.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Everybody on the Bulls wagon. But they can’t score. I see a 2nd round team and Philly will give them a series in the 1st round.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Every time I hear his name I think of the MacGruber with Charles Barkley.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:52 AM
P-Jax made a joke. SVG made a joke. I didn’t see Pop make a joke.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
The Grizzlies are actually a pretty damn good team. They have beaten some worthy teams the past month so don’t act like the Knicks just beat the T-Wolves haters.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Lakers are do for aloss tonight
March 10th, 2011 at 10:54 AM
*due*
/no coffee yet
March 10th, 2011 at 10:54 AM
You don’t win scoring titles without work ethic.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:55 AM
I am a little tempted to take some MIA +2.5 at home.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:55 AM
It’s only Mr. “I WANT MY ROOKIES TO BE ALL-STARS OUT OF THE GATE BEFORE I’M IMPRESSED” that’s hating.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:55 AM
SVG is trash. Doc >>>>>>>>> Master of panic
March 10th, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Oh no. Oh no no no no no no no.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Love that 3 of the best coaches in the leauge have all taken shots at the Heat
P-Jax made a joke. SVG made a joke. I didn’t see Pop make a joke.
What did Del Negro say?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Did I say ‘the’ best or did I say ‘of the best’ Jersey?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
My bad, CJ. I still think Doc is way overrated.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
You sir, are dead to me.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Lakers are do for aloss tonight
I am a little tempted to take some MIA +2.5 at home.
I am too, just feels like its time for a patented Laker letdown
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Too busy celebrating with some Boston road beef after the game to give a quote
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
This. Big time this.
what did john Keuster say?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Fixed
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Shhhh… everyone gets a ribbon in the Jersey rankings.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
lolz
March 10th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Quiet Mr. Tyrus Griffin.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Will everyone shut up about their favorite coaches!!
March 10th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Let me know when the Clippers win something. Actually, let me know when they make the playoffs.
But he has his own siren on SportsCenter!
March 10th, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Can’t stop me from yapping about Cotton Fitzsimmons.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:04 AM
You’d rather discuss LeBron and the Heat some more?
Nice double exclamation point tho. /Jimmy the Cheat
March 10th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Let me know when the Clippers win something. Actually, let me know when they make the playoffs.
But he has his own siren on SportsCenter!
/moderated
March 10th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
SCOTT SKILES IN DA HOUSE!!!! FUCK YEAHHHHHH!
March 10th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Will everyone shut up about their favorite coaches!!
If I said Eddie Gaedel, would that make you happy?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
SC’s favorite player: Robert Horry.
Is there any player, right now, that’s been in the league less than 2 years that impresses you?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:07 AM
He’s a saint imo.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:08 AM
Tom Brady looks like Val Kilmer’s character in Heat.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:08 AM
If Rose was only “average” his rookie season, then there’s probably no young players that impress him.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Tyreke Evans, Ty Lawson, Taj Gibson.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
I got dibs on that hottie Knicks fan they showed after Melo’s shot
March 10th, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Is there any player, right now, that’s been in the league less than 2 years that impresses you?
Hasheem Thabeet is a young Ty Thomas
March 10th, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Do you have a thing for Ty’s? Now I know why you love Tyrus Thomas.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Which is funny, because just yesterday, you said that guys coached by Calipari was one of the reasons you were down on Rose his first year.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:12 AM
I got dibs on that hottie Knicks fan they showed after Melo’s shot
That was uncalled for…
March 10th, 2011 at 11:13 AM
LOL.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Tom Brady looks like Val Kilmer’s character in Heat.
Brady and his fake hair are also drinking out of a melon that he has inserted a straw into. So many kinds of awesome.
/Gisele’s face looks like a man in that picture
//Gisele’s face looks man-ish in most pictures
March 10th, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I am so fucking jealous of him lately. God I hate him.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
He still sounds like a fag when he talks.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Knicks have a very good chance of making it to the second round this year, whether they finish in the 5th or 6th seed. Their chances are probably greater against Chicago than Miami.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Evans first year was better than Rose’s. More well rounded, better penetrator, sounder defensively, bigger kid. Really needs to work on his free throw shooting though for as much as he gets to the basket.
Neither was a particularly accurate mid to long range jump shooter though.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:18 AM
lolz
March 10th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
The Grizzlies have beaten the Mavs three times this year. They’re not a joke this season.
Also: ‘MELO.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:20 AM
He still sounds like a fag when he talks.
He comes across as an awkward dork trapped in a good-looking athletes body, right? I can’t imagine he has much game other than wearing scarfs and going up to supermodels and saying “I’m Tom Brady.”
The video posted of him dancing yesterday all but confirmed this.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
This is what I don’t get. The difference between Evans and Rose their rookie years was very slight. Add to the fact that Evans was like the only scorer on his team. And they were terrible. And won’t win anything. Just like Blake Griffin.
I’m going to keep giving you shit until you fold.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Lucky for them the Cavs aren’t getting in
March 10th, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Dude took a supermodel from Leo Dicaprio. Leo definitely upgraded after that, but he was very peeved when he got left for Tawmmy. Brady must have some type of game to pull a move like that. Or Gisele is just an absolute slut. Won’t rule out the latter.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Huh? This is criminally false.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
And Jersey, his game is that he’s good looking and an elite NFL QB. No game needed after that. He doesn’t even need to speak.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Gisele was going out with Leo before she met Tommy.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
As far as I know, Evans didn’t scam an exam and wasn’t photographed flashing a gang sign in a haze of smoke either.
Rose was drafted #1. So was Griffin. Evans was #4. There are different expectations for different draft slots, no?
Blake Griffin is entertaining. This is not up for debate. He, in my opinion, is not a franchise changing player. Unless the change you desire for your franchise is to fill more seats than you were previously. Which is why he’s a perfect fit on the other team in LA. Doesn’t mean that with the right ancillary parts he can’t be a part of a team that makes the playoffs.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Exactly, before, not during.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:38 AM
so, because Jordan was drafted number 3, you would consider him to be an overachiever?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
So there is that much of a difference between the 4th pick and the 1st pick in the draft for you, SC? Ok.
So what guy under 22 is? You can’t just take a rookie and say “Man, he is so well rounded”. It barely ever happens. I don’t understand why this is so foreign to you.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Dude. It’s well known that right after Leo, she went to Brady and Leo was not exactly enthused.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:41 AM
This is incorrect, but I suppose we shall agree to disagree.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Nah. I just consider the Blazers to be inherently flawed as drafters
March 10th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Jersey, Hernia’s homepage is TMZ, I wouldn’t argue this with him
March 10th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Yeah McGrady really sucked.
Yes, did anyone expect him to become the greatest player ever? If not, he overachieved.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
You’re gonna hate this but… you didn’t grow up with MJ on your team. I’m spoiled.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
I’m going to have to go back through my litany of gossip mags. Might have to even go check with my girls at the Salon. I swear I’m right about this.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:45 AM
I guess this explains it. Our brahship just took such a major hit. I fucking hate you. And MJ was a terrible fucking jumpshooter until his mid 20s.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Tim Ryan and Leo Dicaprio go way back
March 10th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Well, the initial beef anyway was that you said Brady “took Gisele from Leo,” which is completely incorrect.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Now that’s random.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:48 AM
I’m going to have to go back through my litany of gossip mags. Might have to even go check with my girls at the Salon. I swear I’m right about this.
Perhaps Leo just realized that Gisele looked like a man, said to himself “fuck that noise, I’d rather bang Bar Rafeli” and then did just that. Quite the upgrade.
I wish I lived in a world where I could think something like “I’d rather bang Bar Rafeli” and then go out and do just that. Must be nice.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
I’m going to go digging. We’ll resume this argument at Tir Na Nog a week from today.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Yes, he was. But he was always an exceptional free throw shooter who got to the foul line a lot. He always played excellent defense, too.
I WANT MY CAKE AND TO EAT IT TOO.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
So the bar for rookies is MJ. Got it.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
No one is drafted with the expectation of being the greatest of all time, with the possible exception of Wilt. It’s an achievement, not an expectation.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Unless of course they don’t make the playoffs.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
At least show some flashes of it. You’ve known all along I care about the external factors just as much as the on the court stuff. Derrick was a pretty good rookie but there were definitely flaws to his game (shot, free throws, defense). His athleticism was never in doubt. However, the off the court stuff had me concerned as a fan because I’ve seen far too many of those traits carry on into an NBA career and ruin it.
Instead, Rose has gotten better every year and says all the right things. This is why I love Derrick Rose. Same with #19 in an Indian Head. I might ask you the same question as to why this is so foreign to you after I say it just about every time I talk about any player in any sport.
/Jay Cutler is the only dickhead I’ve grown to like, I’ll admit to that
March 10th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
I think its pretty crazy to have ever been concerned about derrick rose’s character… he played exceptionally well as a rookie and showed numerous flashes of greatness and what was to come. He always sounded like a great guy in interviews, very humble, very nice, and very coachable. Not sure how you could have ever bee worried. I also think its a little strange that you act as if you know so much about rose’s game – I was under the impression you didn’t even watch the nba until this year… in fact, I think I actually heard that from you.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:04 PM
The external things give you something to talk about when you cannot actually talk about, you know, THE GAME. It’s a formula sports radio hosts and some columnists have used for years.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
But here’s been my point all along. He’s been in the league for less than 3 years. You talk about him like he was some kind of big disappointment his rookie year, which is just fucking ridiculous. Off court stuff aside (which was some real trivial shit anyway) those are some pretty benchmarks that you want from him on a team coached by VDN. Same for Blake Griffin.
There are plenty of good players with off the court troubles, I don’t know why exactly you would use that to penalize how good a 20 year old kid is at basketball.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Kinda like how your formula is to defend everyone for anything?
Still followed the Bulls.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Because if you take away the troubles, they get better at their job.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:10 PM
This is also hilarious having following your foray into comparing Kobe Bryant to MJ a few weeks ago. Laughable.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Exactly. But Jordan did that, so how is that not overachieving relative to expectations?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
that response makes as much sense as your NBA “analysis”.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
SC: Plain and simple, you’re wrong. For whatever reason, you can’t probably guage how good young players are or are supposed to be. That is all. Add to that you being a Bulls fan and you’ve creeped into my nemesis list. Good day.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
first off, stop frontin’. We were talking about basketball, so you know you couldn’t have followed the “foray” even if you wanted to.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Not to get into this, but its not exactly ridiculous to compare kobe to michael considering kobe’s had a pretty successful career by modeling his game pretty much as a carbon copy of michael’s.
I gotta side with team jersey on this and say your reasoning about rose is pretty crazy. As I said, I think anyone that followed the bulls heavily would have seen all the things I described about rose in my last comment.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Jersey, why all the hate on Bulls fans though? Damn.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Speak English.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Because no one drafts a player with the expectation of them being the greatest of all time, so how can he overachieve on an expecation that doesn’t exist?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Because it’s Knicks-Bulls son, the glory days of the 90′s could be back although sadly I doubt Derrick Rose would taunt Spike during a playoff game
March 10th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
good comeback. wow.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
That’s completely the point.
A #3 is likely drafted with the expectation that they’ll become a solid starter, fringe All-Star.
Jordan DESTROYED that comp.
/can’t believe we’re arguing this
//completely semantical
///I apologize
March 10th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Knicks Fan, I’m 25. If I could go back in time T-9000 style and eliminate Michael Jeffrey Jordan, I would. Add to the fact that SC, Mrejr, and Tampa find a way to talk shit about the Knicks every chance they get….
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I’m more so talking shit about Carmelo, Jersey. The Knicks are a rival, sure. Just can’t stand Carmelo and the notion he’s anything more than an elite scorer. I didn’t hate the Cavs, I hated LeBron.
I’m sure Darrell can cherry pick some stats to put him on Oscar Robertson’s level though.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
plus it’s the fucking bulls. how the hell can you root for joakim noah? dude is a class A asshole in every single way.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Fair enough, jersey.
/maybe we’ll see you in the second round
//if you can get there.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Carmelo’s a great player, SC. Let’s not get silly.
Spencer was the guy who said he was going too root or DRose and the bulls from here on, was he not?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Yes it is.
SC, you’re crazy. Rose had a very solid rookie season. Almost no one, especially point guards, is going to come in the league and just be a complete, well rounded player in his first year. Stop.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
don’t apologize, it’s a board, and at least you know what you’re talking about. Jordan being number 3 had more to do with Olajuwon coming out and Portland having already drafted Drexler the year before. People who weren’t around don’t realize that in his senior year of high school, Bowie had as much hype relative to that period of time as LeBron had in his senior year. He wasn’t some scrub that came out of nowhere, he just had bad legs.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:32 PM
i said that was in SPITE of noah.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
as if being an elite scorer is a negative. I’m sure you’re still carrying the lessons your basketball coach at the Y gave you when he demanded 5 passes before anyone shot the rock.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
If it’s your only asset it is.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
it’s not at all. any attribute that can be universally acknowledged as “elite” is an extremely good thing.
i don’t recall the pistons bitching about ben wallace’s elite defense and having nothing else.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
watch a game.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I’ll tell you one thing. BALLIN IS BACK, BABY!
/pours one out for Irish
March 10th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
They also didn’t built the team around him. That was a team built without a superstar, one of the few to win the whole thing. Carmelo is heralded as the savior of the Knicks franchise.
I’ll be sure to catch him April 12th.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Knicks Fan, I’m 25. If I could go back in time T-9000 style and eliminate Michael Jeffrey Jordan, I would. Add to the fact that SC, Mrejr, and Tampa find a way to talk shit about the Knicks every chance they get….
What kind of kicks would you have worn in high school without MJ around?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
regardless…you’re completely wrong about carmelo. he’s a great player.
/al davis’d
March 10th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
No, it’s fucking not. Kobe is not on his level, but it’s not ridiculous to compare their respective games. If you compare Kobe to Michael, it can help shed light on where he stands as a player historically. They have very similar games because Kobe was smart and modeled it after the best player of all time. Kobe didn’t match MJ’s excellence, and never will, but he’s had himself a damn good career by doing this. I’m not cursed cleveland, so please stop showing up and arguing for no reason any time I mention Kobe’s name in the same paragraph as Michael’s.
Completely agree with you about DRose and rookie players, though.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
But SC, by your logic, Carmelo was the No. 3 pick and has FAR outplayed the No. 2 pick. Therefore, he overachieved and is a success. Fact.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Chicago – I’m a Kobe guy too. Darrell’s assertion that he was on a higher level than MJ was absurd. He based it on FG% and a blanket statement regarding defenses being dramatically improved from about 1995 on.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
That is the point I was making, CursedChicago. But I’m done with MJ-Kobe stuff with you.
Can’t believe I’m saying this, but go Lakers tonight!!
March 10th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
No, the fact that he is combining with another all-star, Amare, is being heralded as the saving factor of the Knicks. They will be a scary team if they can bring a couple more solid pieces in the next year or two.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Well done.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
once chris paul and jerry sloan come aboard…watch out.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
I said Kobe was on a higher level?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
If anyone can screw this up, it’s the New York Knicks.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
That is a huge part of my hatred for Jordan. I didn’t have enough money to afford Jordans. Neither did my parents. But EVERYONE FUCKING ELSE DID. I got clowned mercilessly for not having a fresh pair of airs. FUCK YOU MICHAEL FUCKING JORDAN. I still refuse to buy a pair. When we rocked Jordans for a year in HS basketball, I staunchly refused to buy them. Actually had a big argument with my coach about it.
I still refuse to buy Jordans on principle. The amount it cost to buy Jordans that I would be afraid to mess up, I could afford nice outfits. Fuck Jordan.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Yea, I love Kobe, but I absolutely will not agree with any assertion that Kobe is better than Michael or even on his level. I don’t think any stats argument could be formed to really back a Kobe > MJ argument, either. I just get annoyed when LongLive constantly trolls me and acts like I make the same arguments that cursed does.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Was talking to someone the other day about Sloan taking over in Miami next year. Wonder if that’s even an option. It’d be scary if it was.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Carmelo left the Nugget franchise in a much better spot than the team that greeted him and he paid immediate dividends.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Syas the guy who roots for the franchise that STILL hasn’t won a playoff series since the GOAT retired.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Sloan is a dinosaur. He’s done.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Chicago, I never said that their games aren’t similar. Extremely similar. Kobe came closer to Jordan than I ever imagined anyone doing. And I don’t fault him at all for molding his game after Jodan’s, that’s just being smart.
But cursred and Darrell, and I thought you have all said Kobe is on the same level/would have been on the same level if they switched era’s. If I’m mistaken, then my bad.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
/It’s not your fault, Jersey. It’s not your fault.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Miami. 2007.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:50 PM
If the Clippers cared about being good, they’d fire VDN and go after Sloan immediately.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Completely agree with this. Sloan was still doing a pretty damn good job.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Good point. Mea culpa.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
That is a huge part of my hatred for Jordan. I didn’t have enough money to afford Jordans. Neither did my parents. But EVERYONE FUCKING ELSE DID. I got clowned mercilessly for not having a fresh pair of airs. FUCK YOU MICHAEL FUCKING JORDAN. I still refuse to buy a pair. When we rocked Jordans for a year in HS basketball, I staunchly refused to buy them. Actually had a big argument with my coach about it.
I still refuse to buy Jordans on principle. The amount it cost to buy Jordans that I would be afraid to mess up, I could afford nice outfits. Fuck Jordan.
Umm sorry for opening up old wounds.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Phil and Pop are probably in the range of dinosaurs, too. They’re still effective. I don’t think Sloan is done. The Heat are not receptive to coaching right now. Until the whole crying thing, I actually thought Spoelstra wasn’t doing a bad job. He stood up to his players. After the crying… eh, it’s probably time to start pursuing other options.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Yeah, I won’t lie. I have some deep seeded issues.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Jersey – that jersey website from JPQ has Jordan’s, 1-15, for $39.99 a pair. Diesel ordered some. Said they were good quality, but fucked up on the sizing the first time.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Phil and Pop are probably in the range of dinosaurs, too. They’re still effective. I don’t think Sloan is done. The Heat are not receptive to coaching right now. Until the whole crying thing, I actually thought Spoelstra wasn’t doing a bad job. He stood up to his players. After the crying… eh, it’s probably time to start pursuing other options.
/moderated
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Jordan is one of the best players ever. Jordan was tremendous, but just like any other great player, there are things on the floor that some players have performed better at than him, and that includes Kobe Bryant.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Yea dude, you’ve been mistaken. It probably gets cloudy when cursed is praising Kobe for being better than Jordan (the “more athletic defenders and tougher defenses in this era” argument) in the same thread that I am also defending/praising him for different reasons. I think I’ve argued that Kobe has at least played himself to the level at which he can be compared to MJ, but that’s it. He hasn’t reached him by any measure.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 PM
I didn’t have enough money to afford Jordans. Neither did my parents.
Once I started wearing adult sized kicks mom told me if I wanted Jordans I had to pay half.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Yes Darrell, because I made the argument that no one has done any one thing on the court as good as him ever. Kobe is a better 3 pt shooter. Good for him.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Don’t get me wrong either… John Paxson made some seriously questionable decisions regarding personnel with the Bulls. Hiring VDN. Wallace’s contract. Never picking up an actual 2-guard. Punching his head coach in the locker room… Tyrus Thomas instead of LaMarcus Aldridge.
At least Deng and Noah have panned out because I soured on them in their first few seasons. Deng has been great this year and I’m a huge Noah supporter. Kirk Hinrich was a good draft choice too. Shame he played on some mediocre teams.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Phil and Pop have each shown the ability to adapt their systems to their roster, while Sloan hasn’t and won’t.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Fair enough Chicago, they can be compared. But to me, it can not be argued reasonably that Kobe is better, or even on his level.
Moving on.
As far as Spo, I agree with you SC that he horribly mishandled the crying thing. It is being overblown to a point, but why admit that, knowing how much the general public has turned on the Heat?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
I used to dislike Deng immensely, especially when that rumor was out there that Kobe would have gotten traded to the Bulls, but they didn’t want to give Deng up. Seems like Thibs has gotten to him and he obviously playing great ball this season. I always loved Noah. I really am the anti-spencer.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:00 PM
I think he probably regretted that one the second it came out his mouth.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
Suggestions for a Heat coach then? At least we’re getting somewhere now instead of bickering.
I think we can all agree that they need a coach that the players can respect and will take their coaching to application. That, and a bench.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
He’s a better on the ball defender than Jordan. Jordan had that nice turnaround he eventually developed down low, but Bryant low post game is better. And yeah, I said it; you take Kobe and put him in the late 80′s and he’s putting up the same numbers as Jordan.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
I have a very long story about how my Mom was so happy that I never wanted a pair of Jordans. I’ll save it for the next “Everyone is bored and wants to go over 1000 comments” thread.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:03 PM
it can be argued. Your problem is that you cannot muster up anything other than your overplayed outrage to refute it and THAT’s what frustrates you.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Not gonna argue those moronic points with you Darrell. Just false.
If Noah doesn’t play on the National Championship Florida team that beat Ohio State, I highly doubt Spence has nearly the hatred for him.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
SC. Link that site. If I can take money out of MJ’s
mouthmansion, I will proudly do so.March 10th, 2011 at 1:06 PM
throw all of the adjectives in your arguments as you wish it still doesn’t mask the fact that you haven’t come up with anything other than throwing a bitch fit.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:07 PM
Yep, there is zero evidence out there that Jordan is the best shooting guard out there. None. How silly of me.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
http://www.bbeststore.com
March 10th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
March 10th, 2011 at 1:09 PM
I think the fact he is French doesn’t help, and that hair.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
And when Kobe’s career is done, he will be in that discussion, on the very short list.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Ha. Fair enough Mantis. But I think spence probably also has a little PTSD anytime he sees Noah on the court as well.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Just bought tickets to Bulls-Hawks again on March 22. Gonna be awesome.