The Oregon Recruiting Payments Look Shady, But Probably Were Not NCAA Violations.
The phrase “Charles Robinson on line one” makes a college football coach’s blood run cold. Yahoo’s hammer came down, this time on the University of Oregon. He’s reporting the Ducks made two NCAA-approved payments totalling more than $28,000 to “scouting services” conducted by Will Lyles and Brian Flenory. Both men are rumored to be Texas-based street agents.
Here are the charges.
Will Lyles: Oregon paid $25,000 to Lyles through “Complete Scouting Services.” According to ESPN, Oregon had paid the company $16,500 the previous two seasons. Typical charges for services are around $5,000. Lyles was a “mentor” for Lache Seastrunk, a 2010 5-star running back, who ended up at Oregon. He also had a relationship with LaMichael James. He has rumored links with other high-profile recruits who ended up at schools such as LSU, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Alabama, Baylor and USC.
Brian Flenory: Oregon paid $3,745 to Brian Flenory’s “New Level Athletics.” Flenory played for Chip Kelly at the University of New Hampshire. His company compiled one scouting report for Oregon. He’s more famous for running Badger Sports Elite 7 on 7 camps, essentially AAU style football camps. Four players who attended his camps, including DeAnthony Thomas, ended up at Oregon. He was a “personal trainer” for another Oregon signee, Anthony Wallace.
These revelations aren’t damning for Oregon. Scouting service payments are legal. They were listed on Oregon’s books. Oregon denies any wrongdoing. There’s the appearance of impropriety, but the NCAA would have to prove that Lyles and Flenory were recruiting to Oregon. It’s shady but it’s more likely Oregon exploited a loophole than broke a rule.
The loophole is the salient concern. The NCAA doesn’t want football to become like basketball where “street agents” use camps to ingratiate themselves with recruits, weasel their way in as “informal advisors” and accept payment for steering the recruit to certain schools. They certainly don’t want schools using the “scouting service” payments as a sanctioned way for money to exchange hands.
Given the billions of dollars in television money at stake, the NCAA’s investigation should be figuring out what is going on and how to prevent future malfeasance rather than retroactively nailing schools, unless the media forces their hand.
[Photo via Getty]

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March 4th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
Good take, Duffy — pretty much mirrors my line of thinking on this.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
Dude in the photo looks like he just went to town on a tub of Sno-Cap lard.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
That’s chip kelly, Oregon coach.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Chip Kelly pictured shortly after forgetting to breathe.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
Why holy hell, it is. Maybe I’m face-blind.
Either way, lard.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
as much as id love for oregon to get their shit pushed in, it doesn’t seem like they did much wrong.
kinda sleazy, but nothing really that bad unless there’s tape of discussion regarding steering these kids to certain places.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
NCAA approved the payments. What’s the story?
March 4th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
PAC 10? Do.Not.Care.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
I was thinking he looked more like he was about ready to die of dysentery on the ol’ Oregon Recruiting Trail
/Veal
March 4th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
hard to breathe when you’re on your fifth cup of coffee and eighth mcgriddle before 9am and are having a heart attack due to the pace of practice.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Watson, assuming that’s not in jest …
Kid is tight with this shady cat. Kid picks Oregon. Oregon delivers 25k into that guy’s account for ‘services.’
what’s the going rate for services, you ask? Not nearly 25k.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
nice one.
i always took too much ammo for hunting and ended up with cholera.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
hard to have a “going rate” on a niche industry created out of thin air.
these services will charge whatever they can get away with…and if he didn’t go to oregon, he’d go to another school that buys their shit like the ones mentioned in the article.
these guys just consolidate the talent…which, judging by this and yall’s overrated assessment of the combine, seems to be a four-letter word around here.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
I agree, there’s some smoke here. But where’s the fire? And I was being a little “jesty.” I’m taking a richyrich with Cam approach. Only I don’t really give a shit about Oregon.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:53 PM
From the rulebook:
As long as they followed those provisions, they did nothing outside the rules.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:53 PM
He looks deathly hungover.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
fixed.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Cleet, you don’t expect us to read all of that, do you?
March 4th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
He looks deathly hungover.
i bet he was a good looking fella 30lbs and 25 cases of scotch ago.
/coop
March 4th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
The SEC is hysterically laughing at all of this.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
I’m furious.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
not really.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:58 PM
One of these services charges 40K.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:58 PM
It’s really not that long, but it pretty much sums up how these “scouts” got through the loophole.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
This made me laugh
March 4th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Can Oregon pay scouting services to find players who are bigger than 220 pounds? They should look into that.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
My thoughts.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
oregon could do a lot of things if they weren’t a new money high school team playing a bunch of FCS teams.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
/hater’s ball
March 4th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
I feed off of Spencer’s hate for Oregon. I love it.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Hey TBL, what’s up with that weekly 5 getting posted early? Make that happen.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
One of my favorite Chappelle’s Show skits.
/ooooooohhhhh we!!
March 4th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
That’s PAc-12 to you, and don’t you forget it!
/can’t remember two new teams.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Maybe it’s Catfish!
March 4th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Utah and Colorado. It’s still a piece of shit conference.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
“Back in the game!!”
March 4th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
I’m gonna go home and watch some Chappelle show DVDs tonight. That show is still fucking hilarious.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
It was a ritual for us in college. We never missed an episode and I’ve probably seen every episode 4 times. I love the one about the different stages of Dave Chappelle.
/Fuck Nick Cannon!
March 4th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
I am actually going to watch the NBA 2 nights in a row. Well, the Bulls will get my full attention during the 1st and 2nd intermission of tonight’s Hawks game.
7 > 6.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Who the fuck is Nick Cannon?
March 4th, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Oregon may be new money, but when Texas starts crying about losing recruits you know they are making progress.
Fuck texas, bunch of crybaby bitches.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Word.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
I agree with all of this.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
awesome.
/flashes downwards hook em in the general direction of Clown and Vince Young
March 4th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
I back this statement 100%
March 4th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
Texas the state, or Texas the school?
Either way, I won’t say fuck Oregon, but I will say fuck the lame ass fans I ran into for three days in Arizona.
And this isn’t as big of a deal because there is no mere allegation of money being asked for by a parent, but instead there is actual money exchanging hands to a third party?