Roundup: How to Beat the Wonderlic, Pac Man is a Family Man & Carson Palmer Has $80 Mil in the Bank
Amanda Seyfried … “Man accused of DUI after driving golf cart wrong way on Hernando highway” … goats on parade – on I-5 … Christian Fundamentalist arrested for masturbating in a park … if you missed Charlie Sheen’s appearance on Howard Stern Tuesday … man plays Capitals’ jersey numbers, wins lottery … a reason to see Hall Pass? … Horace Grant is enjoying retirement … oh Mike Huckabee, come on! … a lengthy article and audio of that fraud Bernie Madoff … the Charlie Sheen soundboard! … burglar found naked in school ceiling …
Before you whine about how small market teams have no chance in the NBA, check out the “Presti Plan.” [Oklahoman]
The latest on the NFL lockout, the judges’ ruling, and why Union officials celebrated. [Mike Silver]
Carson Palmer allegedly said, “I’ll never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again. I have $80 million in the bank.” [WCPO]
If you like history, basketball, and Hoosiers, then read this. [Craig Fehrman]
Harvard grad Ryan Fitzpatrick on how to ace the Wonderlic. [GQ]
Kansas has reinstated point guard Tyshawn Taylor. [Star]
Would the Yankees go after Francisco Liriano? [Fox Sports]
So Florida won the SEC. Anyone think they’re a team that could make an NCAA tournament run? [Gainesville Sun]
Joe Dumars has made bad decision after bad decision over the last 5-6 years. [ESPN]
Here are all the details you need about Charlie Sheen’s “goddesses.” As Mindy Kaling said, it’s a very “general and misleading” use of the word. [NY Post]
Pac Man Jones is now a family man? Right. [Postgame]
For the Republicans who like Chris Christie. [NYT]
Scarlett, Minka, Biel, Alba … nice collection of talent in this video.
Risky move to jump in and break this up, if you ask me.
Fast forward to the :45 second mark.
- Chris Bosh Blocked Two Shots in the Final Moments to Help Miami Force Game 7 [Video]
- Ray Allen Forced Overtime By Hitting the 3-Pointer the Miami Heat Signed Him to Hit [Video]
- Mike Miller Hit a Huge 3-Pointer While Wearing Just One Shoe [Video]
- Jozy Altidore Scored Fourth Goal in Four Matches, Gave U.S. 1-0 Lead Against Honduras [Video]
- Tim Duncan Scores 25 in the First Half Against the Heat, Miami in Trouble
- Liquor on Chris Bosh Blocked Two Shots in the Final Moments to Help Miami Force Game 7 [Video]
- orly57 on Chris Bosh Blocked Two Shots in the Final Moments to Help Miami Force Game 7 [Video]
- Some Random Old Dude on Kawhi Leondard Slapped Mike Miller in the Face as He Dunked on Him in Game 6 [Video]
- vajayjay redick on Kawhi Leondard Slapped Mike Miller in the Face as He Dunked on Him in Game 6 [Video]
- resolutedefense on Kawhi Leondard Slapped Mike Miller in the Face as He Dunked on Him in Game 6 [Video]
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March 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Is he just going to switch teams each year so that he’s always on a team that doesnt have the Browns on their schedule?
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:11 AM
good on him for saving his money.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:14 AM
Shit. I mean Bengals.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:17 AM
anyone know the outcome of the guy who fell in the ski video? it looks like he’s kind of standing up after the fall … i’m not in the ski community so I have no idea where to go and look for details
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:19 AM
I’m wearing my cardy Uggs today, bitches!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:19 AM
Otherwise known as WINNING!
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:20 AM
Holy chicken legs.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:23 AM
He finished on one ski to show up the preppy dude on the ski team and avoid paying the paperboy his $2.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 AM
TWO DOLLARS!
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:31 AM
little known fact: I have tried to ski twice, and failed miserably. I’m really coordinated and I like to think of myself as a natural athlete but damn if skiing isn’t the toughest thing ever
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:33 AM
That’s one ugly Roundup Pick.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:34 AM
Mantis you beat me to it! She looks like she could eat a meal or 10 too.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:35 AM
it’s been remarkably difficult to blow my nose with this beard i’ve been sporting. its hard to get it clean.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 AM
I’m with ya TBL, I couldnt get the hang of going back and forth in order to get down the slope, so I would be barreling down the mountain in a straight line, get too fast and be too scared to try the triangle stop, and so I would just fall over to the side on purpose in order to stop.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 AM
going to myrtle beach to play some golf and see the sun next week, anything i should/shouldn’t do?
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 AM
I’m a great skiier but an insanely awful snowboarder. you should try snowboarding. some people (like me) prefer to be able to move both feet independently (like in skiing), and some people are better when both feet are attached to the same board and move together.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:40 AM
ouch.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:41 AM
I’m a great snowboarder on the Wii
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:42 AM
put down the wiimote and get a fucking map…confusing occupied kentucky’s, bastard son AFL team for the browns is downright offensive.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:44 AM
ive never been skiing and don’t think i’d be particularly good at it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:44 AM
Right now I’m debating Myrtle Beach or Orlando for a quick April vacation. Nothing better than cheap golf courses and sun.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:44 AM
Jemelle Hill wrote an article that had no mention of race??
wow. never thought I would see the day.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 AM
Bulls on parade > goats on parade
/The microphone explodes, shattering the molds’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 AM
Freeze the Jimmy K body Hump video at 4:30 for a visual on Minka’s bloatastic cankles.
/payaso’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 AM
i know…he could’ve been fired.
/NASCAR reporter’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:52 AM
Vladdy – KILLIN IN THE NAME OF!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:54 AM
i don’t like a tarted-up amanda, but then i don’t like tarted up any woman. i applaud her appearance and wish for more movies like Teeth and more scenes like her and Fox kissing.
and you know who ho Grant looks like? (old joke alert)
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 AM
I find absolutely nothing attractive about Amanda Seyfried, and I barely know anyone who does.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 AM
I bet Shomari knows some shit.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:55 AM
Poor goats.
Snowboarding > Skiing
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 AM
Awesome. I hope he wasn’t bluffing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:56 AM
The presti plan wouldn’t look nearly as genius if he didnt win the lottery for durant.
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:57 AM
Step 1: Have Kevin Durant on your team
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:59 AM
You’ve got to admit… That is amazing value.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Sweet 16 yes. National title? Probably not.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:01 AM
By win the lottery you mean have every pundit in the nation tell Portland they have to take the big man?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:02 AM
Never went skiing or snowboarding, which is shocking considering I live 2 hours from 2 ski resorts. But I have tried snowboarding with my sled when I was younger, it hurt a lot.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:03 AM
So I am supposed to praise this guy for realizing giving Lewis a $100 million contract was a bad idea? Oh and by the way the team that did made the NBA Finals. What have the Thunder done? This reminds me very much of an article a few years ago praising Morely, he was methodical too. I’m not sold yet.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:03 AM
I think it’s one of the pure joys in life, and I’ve only been 3 times (one of which was in NC of all places). I want to move to Denver just to be close to great skiing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:03 AM
a lengthy article and audio of that fraud Bernie Madoff
possibly TBL’s first correct usage of the word fraud
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:04 AM
I usually french-fry when I should have pizza’d.
/south park’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 AM
That was electrifying!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 AM
speaking of goats, Illformula shared this last night
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 AM
That street fight video is awesome.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 AM
I love skiing, haven’t been for quite a while though. the key for novice skiers is the snow plow method. keeps you under control, instead of just flying straight down the mountain.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 AM
what ruined it for me was seeing my cousin in a cast for 18 months with three corkscrew fractures in his leg that kinda killed skiing for me.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 AM
She looks like a Siamese cat
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 AM
Presti just gave Kendric Perkins almost 10 mil a year for the next four years, depspite numerous knee injuries. He also fell into Kevin Durant.
He didn’t sign Rashard Lewis…The Magic did. Without Rasahrd Lewis, we wouldn’t have been in the NBA Finals in 2009.
I’m not crying, and neither is he.
NBA GMs more than ANY other GM out there have to use a lot of luck. One player can be the difference between ok…and great. That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad GMs.
That being said, LIKE every NBA GM, if the owners of the Thunder said you can go into the luxury tax I guarantee that like every other GM that has been told that, he’d spend recklessly on guys hoping they’d be a key cog.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 AM
She was the Marty Feldman of Mean Girls.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 AM
/redundant
//need coffee
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 AM
ex-skier now a snowboarder. Freaking love it. Headed for a year end trip early next week.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 AM
My wife grew up skiing so she has the classic form down where you go from side to side and all that. I hate that shit. I try to go as fast as I can down the mountain so I can do it again. Skiing fast is exhilarating.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:10 AM
that and slightly shorter skis. even now, if my skis are just a hair bit too long (i rent, don’t own), i feel it when trying to make quick cuts, the ski drags in the back, throws me off.
also think skiing is a great way to test lower body strength.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 AM
I live within a few hours of some of the best mountains for skiing/snowboarding in Canada, but I never go. Never took it up when I was younger and it’s not exactly an inexpensive recreation.
/prefers to go snowmobiling
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 AM
Shit can happen for sure, but even with the kamikaze way that I ski, I’ve never had an issue. But I have seen some nasty spills. The funny thing is, I would guarantee you that you’d love it if you went to Breckenridge or some place like that. Spend a day learning how to do it and then let her rip.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 AM
Team Snowboarding. Was easy for me to pick up after the inital learning to stand and turn.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 AM
i love skiing fast, especially when i take the speed right to the brink of my comfort zone.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 AM
From the Fitzpatrick article: “Take the test seriously. You don’t want a bad score to influence your draft status. It can and it will.”
Obviously he doesn’t read Mike Florio, getting a good score will hurt you worse
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 AM
Skiing’s cool, but yachting and polo is where it’s at.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 AM
So true. My quads burn after skiing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 AM
That was a sign and trade. And in a league full of pretty bad GMs, he hasn’t exactly screwed things up.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 AM
I don’t even want to try skiing or snowboarding at this point in my life for fear of injury. My healing ability now is not what it once was.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 AM
The microphone explodes, shattering the molds’d
either drop the hits like de le o or get the fuck off the commode…
RATM needs to come back.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 AM
skiing’s easier to learn, especially as an adult. Although the risk is higher for wrenched knees and the like. Snowboarding injuries are usually wrist, shoulder, and ass bone, since that is what breaks a fall. Oh, and there is the occasional concussion when the head hits immediately after the ass.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 AM
YES! That shit is like a fucking drug. Being on the border between control and out of control is awesome. It’s like being Charlie Sheen all of the time.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Yet…
/Dumars’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 AM
I’d love to see a list of who people think are good GMs?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Try snow tubing
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 AM
RE: Skiing…
I can think of less costly ways to break a limb or two. I’ve tried it, it was fun and all, but like golf, it’s kinda not cheap.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:17 AM
This is interesting. SI/CBS does an expose on CFB teams and arrests, and the top 10 includes 3 B1G schools and one SEC school. I would not have guessed that. It also includes everyone’s favorite little guy Boise State (a top 4 finish!).
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 AM
Kansas has reinstated point guard Tyshawn Taylor
Shit. I was hoping getting caught fucking in Allen Field House was a season long suspension.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 AM
“Knox … open handed slapped Turner in the head with such force that she was thrown to the ground,” the police report states. “Knox then jumped on her, grabbed her by the throat, picked her up by her throat and slammed her head into the wall. He held her against the wall, continuing to choke her.”
Sometimes they just won’t listen.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 AM
Link. Now. Fuck it, I’ll go find it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 AM
Kenny Williams
/Flips off the haters
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 AM
that is the nastiest roundup pic i have ever seen. TBL, please redeem yourself.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 AM
Different strokes for sure, but I love skiing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 AM
Since “The Walton Fiasco”, Kupchak has been doing a pretty good job in LA.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 AM
I love skiing. I’m not particularly great at it but when you’re skiing out west on the big mountains, there’s hardly anything more fun in my opinion.
Also, this may be the worst round-up pic I’ve seen.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Guessing I may be the only one that immediately starting hearing Rage Against the Machine when he read that?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 AM
No one is surprised Iowa is number 2.
/that’s one big couric
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Kevin Towers.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 AM
I’d love to see a list of who people think are good GMs?
RC Buford. Aided by the presence of Tim Duncan, but he’s surrounded him with talented players (often selected relatively low in the draft) and role players that fit into the team dynamic.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Oh please. I was snow tubing on the sand dunes near Lake Michigan when I was a kid. Snow tubing is the shit and is still fun to this day!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 AM
He’s so savvy.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 AM
At this point I think only Brett Favre still believes Ted Thompson is a crappy GM
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 AM
Go that way. REALLY fast.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 AM
I snowboard. Lots of fun great work out. Just tough when you’re in Florida to do it regularly
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 AM
Haters, you’re gettin weak. And we’re bulkin up.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 AM
After a few minutes, according to police records Fauonuku’s cousin inquired about buying some marijuana. That was a prearranged signal, Fauonuku later told police, for him to act. He pulled out what witnesses said looked like a 9-millimeter gun and pointed it directly at two 19-year-olds.
“I was shaking,” one of the witnesses inside the garage told SI and CBS News. “All my friends were, too.”
The boys complied while Fauonuku’s cousin scooped up the marijuana and a wallet.
Before turning to leave, Fauonuku allegedly issued a chilling threat. “If I hear this on the news,” one of the witnesses recalled him saying, “I’m going to come back and kill you.”
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 AM
butters, i think that about covers it. you don’t know yer nba from yer mlb
/but jerz, you didn;t specify
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Did anyone else read the Govenor Christie article? I’m feeling conflicted about govenors focusing all their fiscal attention on teachers, policemen and firemen unions.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 AM
you need to scroll up, holmes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Who’s the fat chick?
/nods at Rusty
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 AM
TBL, disappointed with no video of the unhinged hippies in Wisconsin.
I can’t wait for the 254 op-ed pieces on the NYT condemning such Tea Party-esque anger.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 AM
I also don’t know who the Bulls’ GM is…I think they somehow fused John Paxson and Gar Forman together to create one mediocre team builder
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 AM
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 AM
King Shero
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 AM
I love skiing. I’m not particularly great at it but when you’re skiing out west on the big mountains, there’s hardly anything more fun in my opinion.
Also, this may be the worst round-up pic I’ve seen.
Agreed on both accounts. That chick needs to find the sun.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 AM
it’s still open in one of my tabs…haven’t gotten to it yet.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Always link to these. I love it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 AM
I can’t decide if Seyfried is hot or not. Some times she looks great, but other times, she kinda looks like an alien.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 AM
If anyone would be sensitive to the “He’s TOO smart” label, you think it would be the Ivy league guy (Fitzpatrick), right?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 AM
for the love of God, can we not attack libya?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Jersey – Re:Taylor fucking in Allen.
http://www.kcconfidential.com/full_content.php?article_id=22307&full=yes&pbr=1
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Nope, the bass line immediately entered my brain. I like to workout to Rage so I’ve listened to them quite a bit.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:30 AM
He hasn’t focused all his fiscal attention on those unions. Those battles are the ones that the spotlight is focused on. He’s put a halt to a lot of infrastructure and put more pressure on municipalities to make decisions about how they spend their money by decreasing state aid.
He’s not the only NJ leader to have issues with public employee unions.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:30 AM
gotta send a message…a couple nukes’ll do the job.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 AM
for the love of God, can we not attack libya?
Yes, by all means, lets get involved in another ground war in the middle east. It’s worked out so well so far.
/really hope you were kidding.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Last time I went Skiing was in Breck, and I fell at the end of the day. It was an epic fall and I hit my head hard. Everyone was clapping (it was below the skilift) I got up went to the lodge and had lunch. I don’t remember anything for the next couple hours but I collapsed walking out to the car as I apparently had a concussion.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 AM
There’s nothing to fear. The casino got the money it needed. All is well.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 AM
I really dislike how they grouped “players charged” into one big category. You want to frame a story, don’t frame it based strictly on number of arrests. Especially since places like Iowa treat public urination as a sexual offense.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 AM
I’m still waiting to hear about cutting defense from the deficit hawks. That should be coming out soon, right?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Uh, Libya is in what I believe we call North Africa, or the Maghreb, not the Middle East. But it’s plenty close, I guess.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 AM
He’s forcing the municipalities to adapt, which I agree with. I’m lucky where I live in Jersey that they’ve worked hard to adapt, but other areas in South Jersey (Camden, in particular), I’m kinda afraid for.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Ha. That’s it. Man… I’d be more surprised if he was the first.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 AM
I said this on TVF, so I’ll just copy it in:
I was actually surprised at how low the number was. Only 7% have a record. If you polled CFB fans and asked what the percentage was, I bet few would go as low as 7%. Also, did you notice who wasn’t on the list? Mark Richt sure does run a terrible program and all.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Yes, by all means, lets get involved in another ground war in the middle east. It’s worked out so well so far.
thats what i meant. i hope we have no interest in going into libya, just stay the hell out of the middle east if we can. but obama reopening the lockerbie investigation seems to lay the groundwork for it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 AM
They still owe NJ a vig. 20% of the revenue. Overtime, that is a shitload of dough.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Uh, Libya is in what I believe we call North Africa, or the Maghreb, not the Middle East. But it’s plenty close, I guess.
I know where it is. I guess I should have clarified and said 3rd world country located in a desert with a nut-job dictator. Is there really any difference?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 AM
did you see that GAO report issued just a day or two ago? details massive, massive waste in from a non-partisan forum. it’s very depressing, especially since I doubt anything will come out of it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 AM
I would not fuck with head injury after what happened to Liam Neeson’s wife.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Probably not the first, probably not the first to even get caught. But he was the first to hook a with a women’s player. And that in itself deserves a suspension. There’s far better talent to choose from on campus.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Parrish did the article say when those stats are from? Arkansas has had it’s share of arrests, but not nearly the amount they used to.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 AM
nothing will happen, it will most likely solve itself, either how egypt did or how iran did last year.
i really hope we get out of afghanistan for a few years, save some money, then go out and party again w/o having to take out another mortgage from the bank of China.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Twins are this close to getting over the hump and they want to trade the best pitcher in the rotation? Unless they get CC or hughes in return, this won’t end well for the Twins. And since they won’t get either, I will be really pissed if this does happen
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:37 AM
buzz qadaffi’s tower, make him squirm, send in the delta force and get the fuck outta there.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 AM
He’s put a halt to a lot of infrastructure and put more pressure on municipalities to make decisions about how they spend their money by decreasing state aid.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 AM
but obama reopening the lockerbie investigation seems to lay the groundwork for it.
Is he really re-opening the investigation? We already know what went down and who did it… what is there to investigate? ZERO chance Obama gets us into another war. ZERO. If he decides to go into Libya because of an oppressive dictator, he’d have to go into a half dozen other African countries, Iran, and N. Korea.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 AM
Oh, I’m sure you’re right about that re: cutting military spending. That just ain’t patriotic.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 AM
there’s a visitor in my office wearing golf shoes w/o the spikes as dress shoes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 AM
this might be a good time to send in Topper Harley.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Don’t we have warships in the area. There’s got to be some tactical teams ready to do some off the books black ops shit.
Don’t even need guns. Just a really well trained prostitute.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 AM
/laces up combat boots
//practices disassembling and reassembling guns before nose starts bleeding while hanging upside down and blindfolded
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Ha. That’s it. Man… I’d be more surprised if he was the first.
Oh, he’s not.
/whistles with a sheepish grin.
//lies.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
agreed…let osama completely off the hook.
are you serious with that? if the US leaves afghanistan right now, we’d just open ourselves up to 9/11 all over again. we haven’t done shit to win that theater.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
told you no one reads the comments.
/Duffy
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
I have a better idea…I think there’s over 400 school districts here in Jersey. Is there any reason why a state 1/3 the size of PA (500 districts) needs that many school districts and administrator salaries? Cut that number down to 200 and boom, you save billions.
All of the people I went to college with from Jersey had graduating classes of 150-300. I was in 796, fucking consolidate your schools NJ.
/moderate’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
At a company I used to work for, a buddy of mine who knew he was going to get laid off on a particular day showed up in full golf attire, including spikes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Forcing changes to state contracts with the unions is a good thing. Teachers, firefighters, police, all.
But I’m still not buying the “we have no money to prepare our state’s transportation infrastructure for the 21st century but we have a lot of money for a casino”.
Priorities.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
It’s disgusting…but you’re right. Absolutely nothing will come out of it. Instead of trying to plug the 3 tractor trailer sized hole in the damn (Social Security, Medicade/care and defense) we’ll focus on the dime sized holes elsewhere.
/slams head on desk
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
lol.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 AM
There’s also this small thing called the 2012 election in a year and eight months, and his numbers have been slightly up in recent times. I don’t think he’s looking to spoil it by getting the country into another desert conflict with no real end in sight.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 AM
i really hope we get out of afghanistan for a few years, save some money, then go out and party again w/o having to take out another mortgage from the bank of China.
Anyone see Colbert last night? They had the New Yorker’s Chinese correspondent as a guest. Fascinating stuff. There are more kids in China learning English than America. More Chinese kids can name all 50 states and point them out on the map than American kids. They have invested 50 times the amount into energy development than we have. Colbert made an interesting point — it’s because they don’t have to go through the democratic process to pay for all of it. No Bureaucratic bullshit. If they want money to get something done, it gets done.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Say hi to Spencer for me
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Is he really re-opening the investigation?
yes, he is. why the hell else would he do this?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 AM
So what does everyone think of Kareem Said taking Lights Leary to the title?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Can I interest you in a job?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 AM
we already have since he’s in pakistan.
but i digress, i don’t want a politics discussion today. just snark and sports. maybe bewb secks talk.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 AM
I have no clue what the best course of action is, but I do find it hilarious that we think we can conquer and mold Afghanistan. Go read some history on those who’ve tried (and failed) to do just that. Also, until Pakistan gets its head out of its ass, Bin Laden will never be caught. Pakistan is the real problem, but those idiots would rather use our billions making sure India doesn’t invade than deal with terrorists.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Is this for the Jersey for Senator campagain? I’m in.
it’s because they don’t have to go through the democratic process to pay for all of it. No Bureaucratic bullshit. If they want money to get something done, it gets done.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 AM
To look like he’s doing something besides simply demanding Gaddafi step down?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 AM
I’m with you. I was just trying to make a mafia joke. I’m really upset about the money he’s putting into that project. Super shady. I’d love to see if there is some document detailing the projected earnings for the place. If anything, it looks really nice.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 AM
yes, he is. why the hell else would he do this?
link? the investigation is closed. they tried and convicted the people responsible. It would be like him deciding to re-open the Tim McVeigh investigation.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 AM
that’s fucking awesome. the only way it would be better would be if he came in with the old school metal spikes. I love the way those sound walking across concrete.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 AM
He’s the best of what’s left.
HOt Shots Part Deux >>>> Hot Shots
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Spoiler motherfucker!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 AM
I don’t disagree with this. But you think things are messy now, get someone to seriously propose this. It will take some fortitude.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 AM
to be fair, we let him off the hook in 2001-02 when we could’ve either gotten him from behind or dropped a bunch of mines around the khyber pass/tora bora/afghan-paki border region. both were nixed by the powers-that-be and a large part of that is due to the potential for pakistan to pull some bullshit.
we easily could’ve gotten him, but the guys calling the big shots were too worried about casualties and bureaucracy to go for it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 AM
They’re open to it because they don’t quite trust him, and when they asked about a long term deal his people came back with 3 year/$39million. That’s cracked
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 AM
the old school metal spikes
i think i went three years with those without losing a spike, unlike the soft spikes now that fall out easily.
they did tear the shit out of a green though.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 AM
Damn. I didn’t pick up on it being a joke and was actually feeling hopeful while I tried to Google for more info.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 AM
MikeNYC – how do you feel about Gov Christie?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 AM
im halfway through “graveyard of empires” and im beginning to debate my own opinion that afghanistan is unconquerable…
then again, i don’t want to type out the reasoning for that as the comment would be ridiculously long and pretentious, so i’ll save everyone the trouble.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 AM
The Brits failed, then the Russians failed, then the Brits failed a couple more times (all a part of the Great Game), no one was stupid enough to try it for awhile and then the Soviets brilliantly thought “hey why not?” Now it’s our turn to deal with that horrible, horrible stretch of earth. I’m hopeful we can somehow leave with something semi-functional intact but considering I studied history as an undergrad, I’m not too confident.
Not that we’ll ever be 100% gone in 2014 or whenever it is we’re supposed to be out. We’ll still have advisers and support forces there to help the Afghan Security Force.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 AM
yup. smaller, more efficient forces will probably be more effective than massive armies. we have delta and seals for a reason, send them in to pakistan to hunt, drag his body to afghanistan, and say they caught him crossing the boarder.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Bin Laden has been dead for years.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 AM
I don’t disagree with this. But you think things are messy now, get someone to seriously propose this. It will take some fortitude.
Politicians are pussies. Even though this is a good idea, they wouldn’t risk proposing the elimination of jobs because that would kill their re-election bid. Also, Unions won’t allow it. Those are too of the biggest reasons states are fucked when they try to balance a budget — more often than not, instead of making necessary cuts, they just do some magic accounting and leave it for the next guys to figure out.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:51 AM
Yep. Love, ya Joe-D, but you gotta step down. If not, first thing the new owner will have to do is fire him. Hopefully the new owner is wise enough to stay away from Zeke in a front office capacity.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:51 AM
link? the investigation is closed. they tried and convicted the people responsible. It would be like him deciding to re-open the Tim McVeigh investigation.
they went into it this morning on the today show (credibility i know is sketchy). saw old lesbo clinton up there declaring it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:51 AM
Bsanders is tweeting about Bob Sanders meeting with the Jets. Amusing on so many levels.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:51 AM
The problem is they can’t possibly get back anything close to what he’s worth.
The valuation of prospects has gotten way out of wack.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Let’s hope and pray.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Stopped watching the show a couple weeks ago because that shit is not seeing a second season. Shame, because Lights’ older daughter is a hottie.
/actress is over 18
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 AM
HOt Shots Part Deux >>>> Hot Shots
Yes!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 AM
one mediocre team builder
link?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 AM
I disagree with this.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 AM
to be fair…all those you mentioned as well as alexander all conquered afghan’s legitimate infrastructure like a hot knife thru butter.
but the annoying insurgencies is what kills it as well as that terrain.
fuck the korengal valley…liquidate it. id say go medieval on their asses, but they’re all stuck in the middle ages still.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 AM
have you seen that “10 ways to kill Bon Laden” show, i think on history channel? I haven’t watched the whole thing, but the couple I have seen make it apparent that the opportunity has been there, at least a couple times.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 AM
/Runs to bsanders feed
/high fives Mantis!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 AM
The theater is unwinnable unless we are willing to inflict heavy civilian casualties.
We are no closer to winning the “hearts and minds” than we were 10 years ago. The Taliban is NEVER going away. They are going to have to be a part of whatever government we try to prop up or they will sweep in and take full control when we leave. If we keep operating at status quo, we will be there forever.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 AM
zawahiri is just as important of a target and has just as much of the blame laid at his feet.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 AM
Did everybody watch the Sheen interview on 20/20?
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 AM
To be fair, Clinton had a chance to take him out back in the 90s. We had his terrorist camp all locked on but there were “civilians” and women and children there. So we didn’t drop the bombs and obliterate him and you know the rest…
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 AM
they went into it this morning on the today show (credibility i know is sketchy
This. I agree that’s probably what you saw/heard, but I’m sure it was sandwiched in-between a segment on how Charlie Sheen has lost his mind and some guy schlepping his new book. That show dumbs down news so much, I’d hardly call it credible. Until I see a credible link, I’m not believing Obama is re-opening an already closed case. It would be different if nobody was ever prosecuted, but we tried and convicted those assholes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 AM
I’ll let you know how things work out in my city. Rochester’s Super (and some members of the school board) have been trying to close down some city schools, remodel others, and generally makeover the city school district.
Parents have gone ballistic. Sending their kids to different schools, further away, across potentially dangerous neighborhoods. Closing some schools that are the centerpiece of a neighborhood. Questions about how tightly packed some buildings will get. It’s been messy.
Teachers union just had a no-confidence vote in the Super. 95% vote no confidence.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 AM
no shit. I replaced all of mine right after christmas. played one round, went to clean my shoes and half the fucking spikes had fallen out. lesson learned. I was pissed.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:56 AM
you mean those civilians that conceal and hide the guys we’re going after? they’re complicit in this shit.
yea…seen a few other doc’s about it too and read a few books about operation: anaconda.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:56 AM
I think Middle Ages is being kind. I’m thinking BC is more accurate.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:57 AM
schlepping his new book.
egregious mis-use of the word schlepping there. my bad.
/swigs coffee
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:57 AM
Christie claims he’s not ready to run, but I’d love to see it. Him, Ryan and Rubio are my three favorites, and probably none will run.
A debate between him and The One over entitlements would be a sight to behold.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 AM
The gravity with how Mr. Bean says he can’t leave the prison because “They tied my shoelaces together” kills me every time
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 AM
seriously…BC with AK’s.
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 AM
OOOOOOOO…. Spence! Spence! SPPPEEEENNNNCCCEEE!!!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 AM
as kids there was nothing cooler. we used to smash soda cans onto our feet to try and replicate that sound.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:00 AM
I don’t think it would go like you think it would go.
You don’t win national elections by telling seniors what you want Christie to say.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 AM
This. I agree that’s probably what you saw/heard, but I’m sure it was sandwiched in-between a segment on how Charlie Sheen has lost his mind and some guy schlepping his new book.
they did say what prompted this was some ex-libyan govt types came to clinton and told her of kudaffhi’s (SP) majority involvement. that info alone can easily start a new file on an investigation w/o “reopening” the previously closed one.
the whole region is an ass backwards shit hole. they have been fighting each other for thousands of years. other countries come in and try to civilize it, but it never works. why dont we all just leave those asstards alone and let them stay in the shit storm they create?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 AM
That’s what I’m saying. The line between the good guys and bad guys is not black and white. Good luck finding a politician willing to wipe out entire Afghan villages.
The reason we entered Afghanistan was to cripple Al-Qaeda, not conquer the entire country.
IMO, our entire focus should be on swift tactical missions aimed at Al-Qaeda leaders. If civilians get in the way of those missions, they are fair game.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 AM
DAMNIT…TWITERR’S BLOCKED.
what’s it say?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 AM
OOOOOOOO…. Spence! Spence! SPPPEEEENNNNCCCEEE!!!!!
Annnnd still waiting on that hammer to come down on Auburn. How great would it be if both teams in the Championship game were declared ineligible. TCU NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!!
/Badgers blew that game
//Fuck me
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Oregon is about to get outed for “major recruiting violations.”
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Please let that happen.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 AM
I like Miguel Ferrer’s line: “Topper I can kill again, you’ve given me a reason to live.”
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 AM
what’s it say?
oregon is about to have a long day…..major recruiting violations
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 AM
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 AM
That. I don’t want him running for office any time soon. He isn’t finished here and he’s not ready for there. You can get away with being loud and kind of demeaning in NJ. That shit won’t fly in the middle of the country.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 AM
This
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 AM
A knot. Bastards!
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 AM
I’m pretty sure you’re joking. But the other day Cowherd said something about a major program that is not Auburn about to go down in the next couple weeks.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 AM
From SPortsbyBrooks
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 AM
why dont we all just leave those asstards alone and let them stay in the shit storm they create?
This
let me buy you a drink.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 AM
I’m pretty sure you’re joking
I don’t think so.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 AM
see, despite the bravado and big talk, i don’t think we can do this.
i agree on fuck the “hearts and minds” bullshit, but you can’t just kill civilians…then we’re no better than qadaffi.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Isn’t Cowherd an Oregon guy? This may be a rare case
where he actually has some legitimate connections/insight.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 AM
i agree on fuck the “hearts and minds” bullshit, but you can’t just kill civilians…then we’re no better than qadaffi.
Therein lies the problem.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Indeed. Not even the off-brand ones.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 AM
FUCK OREGON!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 AM
The tweet said “multiple sources at ESPN” so I’m sure Cowherd just overheard someone else say it. I can’t imagine many people actually talking to that guy.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 AM
let me buy you a drink.
i just dont get why arms length awareness of what those bozos are up to isnt enough. being up there asses has proved worthless, so pull the fuck out of there.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Hmm. Should’ve bolded the “then” as well. Sounds like I was saying we’re equal to Gaddafi right now. Not exactly what I was going for…
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Speaking of Cowherd, I saw about 2 minutes of SportsNation yesterday. Beadles arms looked like they are getting fat and flabby. What the fuck?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Worked in WWII vs. Japan, correct?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 AM
That’s what she said.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 AM
yea, but we’re not up their asses in the slightest.
if anything, we’re staring right into the puckered starfish watching them shit on us while we can’t do anything until the turd’s turtleheading.
/poo metaphor for bullshit rules of engagement
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 AM
Oregon is about to get outed for “major recruiting violations.”
how? they never seem to land any top 5 recruits with any regularity. dont think they would be stupid enough to give a truckload of nike’s to a 2 star.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 AM
Hasn’t she been on the bench with an injury? And I mean,w e are coming out of winter. I’m sure she’ll get that ass back in the gym in no time to re-acquire her cdw-ness.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 AM
True, it’s much better to pander to your audience and make promises you can’t and never intend to keep. My, what a standard we’ve set for our politicians.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM
What the fuck?
She’s probably in her mid-30′s, no? That’ll start happening around that age with the ladies.
/so I’ve been told
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM
I can’t decide if you are bipolar or bi-winning.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM
yea, but we’re not up their asses in the slightest.
i think we are, but not as much as we could be. maybe just a knuckle or two.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Yeah, she’s on crutches and in a cast. It just made me a little sad. I don’t like when chicks lose their hotness.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 AM
not even remotely comparable situations. come on now.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Different story.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 AM
It’s not a standard I’ve set. I’m telling you how it would go. Unless Christie is trying to lose.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 AM
We were looking for Balloon Knot
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 AM
One really good player, who has a below market contract due to service time, and two lottery tickets. That’s not amazing value.
BJ Mullens will never be worth anything in the NBA. Aldrich maybe.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 AM
I have Tiger blood and Adonis DNA.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 AM
Not that we like it.. but presidential campaigns are more theater than merit these days. You can’t be down to earth and honest and win. You have to play to the mob. And the mob is pretty simple.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
But I do think it’s sort of funny that a person would find it odd that, when people are told by a politician that he’s going to cut a program that feeds, shelters, and pays for their medicine, they might vote against him.
Fucking weird how that works.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
i want as aggressive a stance as possible, but im also a realist.
also…i don’t know jack shit to even TRY to suggest a possible course of action.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
This is what all political elections have become. It’s a fucking shame.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
We were looking for Balloon Knot
yeah, but this particular foreign chick does not like ass play. best to just leave her alone and focus on home grown sluts.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
And the mob is pretty dumb. The word we were looking for there was dumb.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Whether its entitlements or “family values” bullshit, everyone does this.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Good job extending the analogy.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 AM
And fuck me for forgetting to put quotes around entitlements.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 AM
I have Tiger blood and Adonis DNA.
Tigger Blood?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 AM
They have always been like that.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 AM
I have an aunt who is a strict Catholic and a huge Palin supporter. I can’t even begin to describe how frustrating it is to have even a simple conversation with her not involving politics or religion. The cable news networks have contaminated everybody with so much hate. We are so fucked.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Only Washington’s elections weren’t a total shit show.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 AM
not even remotely comparable situations. come on now.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 AM
The cable news networks have contaminated everybody with so much hate. We are so fucked.
for some reason, i have really noticed this lately. everything is centered on confrontation, controversy and dislike. its really getting old, and its very counterproductive in any application.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 AM
quote fail. sheesh.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Oregon’s developing a reputation like Auburn where they’re open to working with kids who have handlers. That’s how they got Lache Seastrunk and De’Anthony Thomas, and why they are the leaders for Trey Williams.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 AM
It’s b/c the “news” is now a ratings grab so they can get top dollar for commercials.
BBC World News FTW.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 AM
vega…you’re right about japan, but we’ve completely steamrolled 95% of afghanistan. we’re just fighting a limited insurgency, not another country…which is arguably far more successful against a large military force.
japan was an all-out, heavyweight battle on land, in the sea and air. this is just a bunch of little backyard skirmishes against an enemy that’s a needle in a haystack.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 AM
also…im not a history major by any means. i just find afghanistan to be really fascinating, for some reason.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Are you referring to the entire Bush Administration here?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 AM
That’s how they got Lache Seastrunk
wasnt aware he had handlers. was hoping temples closeness to waco would have pushed him to baylor, but then i remembered we suck balls.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Back to replicating sounds, the other thing we used to do is put playing cards in the spokes of our bicycles to try and get a motorcycle sound. Never got old.
/trying to get off politics
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Are you referring to the entire Bush Administration here
better lump in the obama admin, as well.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Spence, did you see the documentary “Taliban” on CNN over the weekend? Some Taliban leader let a Swedish journalist embed with them for a couple months. It was pretty crazy.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
for some reason, i have really noticed this lately. everything is centered on confrontation, controversy and dislike. its really getting old, and its very counterproductive in any application.
I haven’t watched any of them in years. It’s bad information skewed into a viewpoint that supports whatever party they’re schilling for. I take great joy in watching Stewart pointing out all they hypocrites employed by MSNBC, FOX, etc.. The piece he had the other night pointing out the change in perception that FOX and MSNBC had on the tea partiers and WI protesters was laugh out loud comical.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
As a result, Alexander spent more time conquering Afghanistan than he did Persia, and with less to show for it: not only did Afghanistan offer no comparable symbolic and strategic victory, but constant revolts undermined whatever glory he could claim for his defeat of Spitamenes, his primary Afghan foe.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
+7 trillion in national debt
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Jersey – this is the part of the article that bothers me:
“They pointed out that despite all Christie’s talk of shared sacrifice, he refused to renew a tax on millionaires in New Jersey that would have raised about $800 million this year — not enough to solve the state’s fiscal problems, certainly, but enough to restore most of the school aid that was slashed from the budget.”
I’m all for cutting, but why are you focusing your attention solely on the middle class public sector? Why shouldn’t the cuts happen everywhere and not just on the teacher’s union?
Also, I don’t necessarily think adopting the business practices of the private sector (i.e. big companies that laid off thousands, raised benefits costs, restricted pay raises and bonuses for mid-level employees to keep profits high) is the best way to balance your budget.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Hardly a hot knife through butter, Spencer.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 AM
It’s called class warfare, and it’s real.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Because teacher’s unions don’t vote for Rep’s. If they did, they wouldn’t get cut. Everyone wants to tighten belts in a time of recession, but each side only wants to tighten the belts of the opposing party.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Because the teachers don’t donate to his campaign fund like the others.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Between this and Scott Walker’s tax cut causing the budget shortfall he’s using as an excuse to take workers’ CBA rights, the GOP is on fire.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 AM
That’s pretty simplified. The democrats want to put the tax level on rich people where it was in the 90s.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 AM
SG: Here’s the thing about a millionaire’s tax. What would you do if you were, I don’t know… Jay-Z and you found out your taxes would be going up as a resident of a state because of the amount of income you made? You’d move. Millionaire’s taxes won’t work. It’s as simple as somebody just changing there address or the address of where there business is located. Also, the state is in heavy heavy debt. Middle class families have been leaving at a higher rate than they’ve been coming in because of how expensive it is to live in the state. The less people that live here and work here, the less tax revenue. The less tax revenue, the harder it is to support a public workforce, let alone give them raises and support their retirement funds.
They’re not being asked to give up their entire way of life, just to make sacrifices for the good of the whole. And they have been doing a lot more of that.
A couple months ago, one of the country’s most rockstar mayors, Mr. Corey Booker, had a showdown with the police union of Newark. He told them that they needed to reduce pay and pay increases in order for people to keep their jobs. The union refused. And they ended up firing hundreds of officers. That is the kind of stuff we’re dealing with here.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 AM
SG: Here’s the thing about a millionaire’s tax. What would you do if you were, I don’t know… Jay-Z and you found out your taxes would be going up as a resident of a state because of the amount of income you made? You’d move. Millionaire’s taxes won’t work. It’s as simple as somebody just changing there address or the address of where there business is located. Also, the state is in heavy heavy debt. Middle class families have been leaving at a higher rate than they’ve been coming in because of how expensive it is to live in the state. The less people that live here and work here, the less tax revenue. The less tax revenue, the harder it is to support a public workforce, let alone give them raises and support their retirement funds.
They’re not being asked to give up their entire way of life, just to make sacrifices for the good of the whole. And they have been doing a lot more of that.
A couple months ago, one of the country’s most rockstar mayors, Mr. Corey Booker, had a showdown with the police union of Newark. He told them that they needed to reduce pay and pay increases in order for people to keep their jobs. The union refused. And they ended up firing hundreds of officers. That is the kind of stuff we’re dealing with here.
/Kiss my ass moderation
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Maybe my problem is I have tunnel vision. I can only see the stuff that is happening to me and my friends, and I think it’s unfair. There needs to be reform everywhere, not just on the middle class workers in the public sector!
I’m not asking for a handout from the rich. I just can’t wrap my head around why you want to come down on people making $55,000 a year but people making $250,000+ a year are completely untouchable.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Agree, but if you left it up to the Dems alone, I bet you’d see them cut far more Right-leaning things than not.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 AM
And herein lies the huge disconnect that points to SG’s question. A comment like the above assumes — amazingly — that all earned income belongs to the government, and that they should dole it out, or “allow” individual earners to keep it, as Washington sees fit.
There is a world of difference between a spending problem (entitlements) and a revenue problem (taxes).
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 AM
And yet no one in Washington has the balls to risk re-election and cut defense or entitlements. They’re all a bunch of bitches. I would love….LOVE a 10 minute window to dress down a joint session of Congress.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Whoa. They may be backwards but in terms of fighting each other for “thousands of years”, you could easily say the same for much of the West, especially Europe, until post WWII. Also, the notion that countries purpose for “coming in” to the region was to “civilize it” is just so staggeringly wrong I’m not sure what to say.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 AM
presidential campaigns are more theater than merit these days.
as long as ‘these days’ mean since TV started
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Because those people will leave. And then you have no tax revenue from them. And the people who make 55-70K a year, don’t work for a state, and aren’t unionized are actually the majority. Those are the people that are Christie’s base.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 AM
SG, I’m not picking on you specifically, but this is just entirely wrong.
The top 1% of income earners pay 40% of ALL federal income taxes.
While the bottom 50% of income earners pay a pathetic 3%.
So please help me square these facts with the rhetoric that evil rich people are untouchable and don’t pay their “fair share.”
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Seriously, guys.. just join my cabinet. Let me handle the debates, the speeches… all the tv nonsense. Then everyone else tackle the issues once we get inside the white house. SC.. make me some goddamn buttons already!
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Good job extending the analogy.
well done watsonian, well done
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 AM
First, I disagree. Do you really think a rich person with a family that has their kids in good schools is going to move just because their tax level went up a few percentage points? No way.
Second, who’s to say the middle class person getting salary cuts and increasing benefits costs is going to stay in your state? Why wouldn’t THEY move if all this happens?
The “people moving” thing is not a good enough excuse to not balance a budget over all class levels in all business sectors.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Another figure: the top 10% of income earners pay 71% of all federal income taxes.
What is the liberal idea of fair for these high-earners? The top 10% should pay 100% of federal income tax while the 90% of the rest of us don’t pay shit?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Thank for you putting words in my mouth. I was just pointing out that Walker was elected as a budget hawk and then immediately created a shortfall that he’s using to curtail CBA rights.
Also, Jersey, Jaz-Z can’t escape a federal income tax unless he leaves the country and stops making money here. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates asked for a tax hike on the super-rich for a reason: they see it as a part of the overall solution.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 AM
we defeated the established taliban regime in a month.
that’s a hot knife thru butter, brah.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Mike NYC, when the gap between the richest and poorest is continuously widening, wouldn’t it make sense that the very, very richest would end up paying an even larger and larger percentage of income taxes?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 AM
First, I disagree. Do you really think a rich person with a family that has their kids in good schools is going to move just because their tax level went up a few percentage points? No way.
Yes, you would. If you’re rich you can afford to send your kids to good schools anywhere.
Think about it. Why do you think a lot of athletes have homes in Florida, Texas, and Tennessee? No state income taxes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Federal taxes? No. But a state’s millionaire’s tax like we were previously discussing? Yes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Back to replicating sounds,
for you doglovers here (/no bestiality) one of my fave sounds has always been a big dog eating crunchy food
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Well as usual, I’m pro federal action.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Federal taxes? No. But a state’s millionaire’s tax like we were previously discussing? Yes.
Yep… federal and state taxes are 2 completely different issues, obviously.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 AM
On a complete side note, the newest Jimmy Eat World album is pretty sweet.
Goddamn Commies
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Yes, they would. Because you can move to Florida and still get your kids a really good education in a nice place to live with no problem. There’s a reason the Steinbrenners, Jeter, etc. work in NYC from April to October but are still residents of Florida. There are tons of businesses here that moved while the previous governor was around because their taxes were way too high. It happens more than you think.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Mike, I don’t think that. Honestly. I hate taxes. I’m already pissed at the amount of money they take from me and I’m not rich. I can only imagine what it would be like if I was making a nice chunk of change every year only to see almost half of it go to the government.
My whole point is when you have a multi-BILLION dollar defecit you have to cut everywhere.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Why are we still there? Why haven’t we achieved our goal? There’s more to conquering a country than what we did in a month. Far more.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 AM
I haven’t watched any of them in years. It’s bad information skewed into a viewpoint that supports whatever party they’re schilling for. I take great joy in watching Stewart pointing out all they hypocrites employed by MSNBC, FOX, etc.. The piece he had the other night pointing out the change in perception that FOX and MSNBC had on the tea partiers and WI protesters was laugh out loud comical.
imagine being a peon wokring for these networks’ there’s no way they hire only ‘party line’ people, sp if yer a decent thinking person, it must suck to work there, especially if you watch Stewart
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 AM
There’s a reason the Steinbrenners, Jeter, etc. work in NYC from April to October but are still residents of Florida.
And why most credit card companies have their headquarters in Delaware… they give those businesses which make money hand over fist HUGE tax breaks.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 AM
How much of the total income available to be taxed is earned by the top 10%? Doesn’t that have to be factored in before determining what’s fair?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Well, give me a figure. 10% of the population pays 71% of federal income taxes. How much more should they pay?
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 AM
And as I said earlier, he has. There was the whole hudson tunnel project a couple months ago that hardly got any news nationally because it didn’t involve teachers, cops, or firefighters. He really isn’t just focusing on public employees, that’s just what gets national attention.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
al qaeda is not a conquerable entity. al qaeda doesn’t have anything to conquer.
we’re there because those assholes are going to do damage until they’re all killed. it doesn’t matter if they’re in afghanistan or in pakistan or in india or russia or anywhere…they sunk their claws into the afghan government, and we kicked the shit out of them.
just because there are a handful of insurgents left taking potshots at marine platoons doesn’t mean the enemy thinks they’ve won or have any shot of beating the US. they just want to be annoying to the point where we give up, like the soviets (who absolutely wrecked afghanistan in the 80′s until the mujahideen started their nitpickery).
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
The “Vanishing Millionaires” is a political talking point. A bad one.
http/blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/02/23/new-yorks-vanishing-millionaires-and-other-myths/
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
also…we’re still there so we can rebuild the shit we destroyed.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
It’s why Stewart is so good. They point out the absurdity of cable news.
Totally. It has to be excruciating at times.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Please, top 1% owns 33% of all of the wealth in this country and can/has bought every branch of government. How is the middle class supposed to combat this concentration of wealth? The GINI Index in the US is worse than Egypt. There’s more inequality in this country everyday, and the majority of us take it in the ass. Our highest GDP peacetime growth was during the 50′s when the wealthiest were paying 70+% effective taxes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 AM
This isn’t a liberal/conservative thing – it’s a budget thing. We have a huge debt to repay and the money has to come from somewhere. EVERYONE has to get hit, the rich, the poor, the middle class EVERYONE.
I know there are many politicians who just want to push a conservative or liberal agenda but that’s not going to do anything here. It’s not about politics, it’s about fixing shit that’s broken.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 AM
And we have to raise taxes. You have to cut and raise taxes…but no politician will admit this (certainly none on Right anyway) because politicians have (and never will be) in the business of telling people what they need to hear. They tell them what they want to hear.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 AM
This seems like a good time to link this.
It’s interesting to play. To make it really hard, make sure to keep the tax cuts that were just continued.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 AM
We already know the effective rates. If you earn more than $170k a year you’re paying 2.2x the rate (not dollar amount, but rate) of someone earning $30k a year.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 AM
That should tell you something about the huge chunk of the pie the top 1% is raking in.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 AM
I hate politics. I wish people could just look at the problem and try solve it reasonably instead of saying shit they know people want to hear.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Another mindless fallacy.
Wealth isn’t owned, it’s earned. How are us plebes supposed to “combat” other people’s success? By being successful ourselves. Go to school, learn, get a good job; start a business, hire people. There is no magical money tree that only grows in the back yards of wealthy people, you know.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 AM
And 30 years ago that person making 170K was paying 4.5x the rate. Then reagan slashed that rate, and bush slashed it even more. Now the Dems are asking that bush’s tax cuts be eliminated. The right wants those tax cuts for the wealthy to stay in place. Seems how this country is operating in the red, maybe the dems are right on this debate.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 AM
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Again — there is no fixed “pie” that says only a certain amount of wealth can be earned. You want to be rich? Go out and do something instead of crying about it on a sports blog.
Ok, I’m done — good talk.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 AM
they give those businesses which make money hand over fist HUGE tax breaks.
just like rich athletes get a watch for appearing on the Leadoff Show. the folks who need it least get things free. yet, you want businesses because they hire (and fire) local people. life is all about leverage baby
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Yeah…the little Steinbrenners really earned their wealth. So did Paris Hilton and the Kardashians.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Hank Steinbrenner disagrees
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 AM
The game is rigged to benefit the wealthy (tax loopholes, deregulation, etc.).
Its like playing a game of Monopoly in which the rich start out with 10x as much money as the other players, get infinite get out of jail free cards, and get to roll 5 times for every turn you get.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 AM
not a fan of inheritance, huh?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 AM
we’re there because those assholes are going to do damage until they’re all killed. it doesn’t matter if they’re in afghanistan or in pakistan or in india or russia or anywhere
i thought the whole bin laden thing was PR. it’s been put to bed already: kill him and nothing changes. nothing. the next steps in line, if he’s been motivating and planning anything at all, that is
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 AM
I’m actually a huge fan of federal death taxes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 AM
That’s why the top of the richest Americans list is filled with Waltons.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Not a fan of the blanket statement: all wealthy people have earned their money and if youre not wealthy its because you havent tried hard enough.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 AM
To “top 10%” starts with people who make as little as ~$110,000, by the way.
These aren’t rich people.
And 90% of people in this country make less than that. The idea isn’t to tax them more, I hope.
Also, as best I can tell, no amount of federal taxation has yet sent a 1 percenter into the poor house.
No, the federal government doesn’t own the money they have earned.
But if they earned their way up the ladder, they did so as part of the progressive, graduated tax system that helps make this country great and is one of the reasons people have the ability to move up the ladder.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 AM
political arguments on blogs are funny.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 AM
I love Amanda Seyfried. But I don’t love that picture of her.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 AM
That implies there are enough opportunities out there for everyone to be rich. It also completely factors out all the necessary jobs that don’t pay as well much but would keep the country from functioning without them – teachers, plumbers, electricians, sanitation workers, miners, farmers, oil rig operators, etc.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 AM
I love clown.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 AM
DUH. (/sheen)
I’m not an idiot. However being a history/econ degree holder, I know how bad economic policies and broken politics have destroyed civilizations over time. We’re on our way to banana republic status if we don’t shake things up.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 AM
300+ comments, I had to take a peak.
/instantly flees the scene like a wild goose
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 AM
It’s healthy. It actually matters more than faggy offenses and what school has more dirty players. Plus, no one in this thread has called anyone an idiot or a moron yet. Funny.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Hear fucking hear.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Exactly. You put my thoughts into a nice, concise sentence.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 AM
oil rig operators
not a great example of poor folks. ask mr. ejr, aka, Moneybags
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Eh, oil rig operators work an incredibly dangerous job and get paid mad money per hour. They definitely earn it. I had a friend who worked a rig for 6 months, said he nearly got himself killed two times. He also worked like 80 hours a week but got paid crazy money.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
I love clown.
i love shakes the clown
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
I think everyone would love to be rich but we live in a reality where not everyone can be rich. I just want to be able to live comfortably and happy and not worry about money.
I don’t understand why you feel like we’re asking the rich people to pay us for being poorer than them. It’s not like I’m going door to door in Kenilworth and asking the people in multi-million dollar homes to help me pay for my shitty benefits! .
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
anyone can learn to plumb, sanitate, mine, farm or oil rig (?), but not everyone can control ridiculously large institutions just because they have a bachelor’s degree or some shit.
the opportunity is out there for every single one of us to assume massive quantities of wealth…we’re just not smart or headstrong enough to realize it. it sucks, but that’s the way it is.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Eh, oil rig operators work an incredibly dangerous job and get paid mad money per hour. They definitely earn it. I had a friend who worked a rig for 6 months, said he nearly got himself killed two times. He also worked like 80 hours a week but got paid crazy money.
the time i wasted almost going to alaska to work in fisheries for 10k a summer. you want money? do shit jobs or dangerous jobs
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 AM
oh I totally agree. I don’t get involved in them because I don’t know enough to make a logical argument. I guess I just think it is funny how people will stick to their guns no matter how illogical the argument may become.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I think it’s great, but I was just using them as an example of not earning their wealth…unless being born to rich people is something earned.
It’s even more depressing when you’re last name is Walton and you have no ties to the Walmart empire.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Either you’re slingin crackrock, or you’ve got a wicked jump shot.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 AM
we’re just not smart or headstrong enough to realize it.
don’t forget lazy, or allocating time and energy to other pursuits
/like chasing ass
//why i don’t make a million
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 AM
some friends of mine did that right after HS, wish I would have. they worked balls to the wall, but said it was a good time and worth it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 AM
move to NW Arkansas and start name dropping. I bet you could slide in somewhere.
/changes last name to Walton
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 AM
So you’re saying every single person in this country just needs to apply themselves more and they could become a CEO of a company, or an owner of a sports franchise, or an inventor of a well-selling product, or a successful hedge fund operator, etc?
I think you’re being silly, Spencer.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 AM
No, but the guy who is selling cocaine to Charlie Sheen must be living comfortably.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 AM
yep. the “self-made millionaire” is not all that uncommon.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 AM
I bet his 401(k) has blown the fuck up in the last year.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Everytime I see a MikeNYC rant I remember he voted for a ticket that included Sarah Fucking Palin for VP of the United States, and it starts to make sense….
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 AM
sportsgal, it’s evolution, baby. what would the world be like if everyone was the head of a company? there needs to be chiefs and they need soldiers. if you don;t have what it takes to be a chief, you also don;t have the chief’s headaches. you think all rich people are happy? i know you know better. everyone in their place
/not rich
//happy most of the time
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 AM
I’m happy most of the time myself. But there are times when I wish I could afford the really ‘Uge bottle of Moet Chandon instead of just the regular size.
/makes it rain
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 AM
FLAT TAX. I have yet to hear ONE good reason why this wouldn’t work.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 AM
I actually enjoy sparring with Mike…but I do question someone who voted for a ticket involving Palin. I’m always stunned when I think about having her in the White House.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 AM
yep. the “self-made millionaire” is not all that uncommon.
and being a millionaire doesn;t have the cache it used to. get in the billionaires’ club!
most rich folks merely spend to their level, so they worry about bills too. if you were a millionaire, would you live where you live, drive what you drive, vacation where you vacation? no.
only the super rich can relax
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 AM
It.Will.Never.Happen
/not saying it won’t work, but it will never happen
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
“self-made millionaire” — Nobody, I mean nobody, said that better than Tupac.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
If millionaires have money issues they can go fuck themselves.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
meh…i probably would. i have more space right now than i know what to do with. id probably get a nicer car, but im not really big into material shit, which is probably why im not a megalomaniac hell-bent on accumulating wealth.
HOWEVA, i wouldn’t be golfing where i currently golf.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
FLAT TAX. 16-team playoff I have yet to hear ONE good reason why this wouldn’t work.It.Will.Never.Happen
/not saying it won’t work, but it will never happen
/full circle’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
I wouldn’t have a mansion at all (why do you want a house 5x the size of what your family needs?) but I would travel my ass off. That’s where I would spend my money. That and CFB games. I’d go see a game every other weekend.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Nice condo in hoboken, a car I love and season tickets to Knicks, Jets and Yankees games. Pretty much all I need to be happy.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
I don’t understand why rich people think if they pay more in taxes they’re directly contributing to someone else’s paycheck. It’s like they think the lower/middle class is swimming in a vault of their hard earned money. My taxes and expenses go up just as much as everyone else while my salary stays the same.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 AM
they can go fuck themselves.
they can afford not to
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Agreed. But dammit, a lot of problems would get solved right away. This whole bitching about the rich getting over and the porr not pulling their weight would end pronto. And everyone would be forced to pull their own weight, equally.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Nice condo in hoboken, a car I love and season tickets to Knicks, Jets and Yankees games. Pretty much all I need to be happy.
Don’t forget the Bieber and Chesney concerts….
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Fucking A. This seriously gives me a chub. The thought of catching a game at Ohio State one week, and the next seeing one in the Swamp, etc… would be a fucking dream.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Bieber, no. That would just be too creepy. Got to wait 15 years for the comeback tour to enjoy that. Chesney? Fuck yes. Add Paisley to that, too. And I think I’d be rich enough to go to a Gaga concert and not really give a fuck. I’d for damn sure be going to more country concerts in the south, though.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 AM
seriously…id love to be a millionaire just to go around the country and go to every CFB game i could.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 AM
You’d be like a unicorn at some country concerts down here. I’ll be your wing man if you need one.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 AM
It would be amazing. In no order:
Oregon
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan
Wisconsin
Oklahoma
Texas
LSU
FLA
Alabama
South Carolina
Free Shoe
Miami (why not?)
Army-Navy
Utah-BYU
Every BCS bowl
Cotton Bowl
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 AM
FUCK. YOU.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 AM
Shit…Notre Dame, too. Can’t believe I left them off.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 AM
Seriously meant to add them Jersey.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Washington and Tennessee as well. Does Pepperdine have a team? Malibu would be nice.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 AM
forgot texas AM…kyle is AWESOME.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Yes I did. That’s another one. There are so many.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 AM
and clemson…cool stadium.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 AM
yea…washington’s stadium is GORGEOUS.
id like to go to wazzu…just so i don’t take my CFB team’s success for granted.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 AM
If I had lottery money, I’d definitely do the college football tour along with hitting up every MLB park within 40 days.
/flying first class or G5
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Been there already. I was shitfaced pounding a bottle of jager screaming how the Clemson intro was “the most boring 25 seconds in college football.” Cool stadium.
/UGA won 31-3 I believe.
//it was awesome
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Does North Texas have that successful of a football team?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Lefty hates Clemson as I guess the Nerds don’t get along with them, but they were the nicest fans I’ve encountered. I would assume South Carolina fans would disagree though.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 AM
is it too late to take that original comment back?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 AM
you had me until here Jersey. I will be your personal tour guide to a summer of southern concerts if you would just drop this asshole off your list.
/going back to Tulsa for a concert St. Patty’s Day
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Hey, don’t sleep on the college football experience in East Lansing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 AM
I’d love to catch a Mich-MSU game there.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 AM
It’s better than watching it at the big house. That place sux. I’m not even being biased.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 AM
hey cfb fan (spencer)…wazzu is WSU. youdub is washington
/schooled by a vandal
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 AM
go to a Vanderbilt game sometime, it’s closer to where you live and equally as pathetic. their stadium is a bigger joke than their football team, and that is saying a lot.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 AM
It really is the worst place to watch a cfb game that I’ve ever been to. And I feel like I’ve been to more than my fair share.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 AM
i know…i was making a joke at wazzu’s expense.
/washington sucks too
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 AM
I’ve been to almost every stadium in the big10, and the big house might be the worst. Although, Purdue’s campus fucking sux.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Went to a Udub game a couple years ago – their epic 0-12 season – and there were, no joke, more seagulls in the stadium by the end of the 4th quarter than people in the stands. It was awful, awful football. Since Willingham’s been gone they have turned that around though. The stadium is pretty beat up, but they are going to be redoing it in the next couple of years.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 PM
ok, spence, i was just using my context clues. you mentioned UW stadium then typed wazzu
stadium might be crumbling bstr, but the location/view is sweet
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 PM
big house is meh. it’s kinda cool how big it is, but it’s an underwhelming experience.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 PM
That’s… what she said?
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Exactly. You’d think 110,000 fans would make some noise.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Absolutely. Any stadium you can boat to is pretty cool. When the stadium’s fixed up and with the team getting better it’ll be a great place to watch a game. I might head down more often.
For now, though, they’ll be at Qwest field, which is pretty nice itself.