Federal Judge Rules Against NFL’s Television Lockout Money, Owners Weep
The NFL owners were hoping to outlast millionaire players who would feel the pressure once paychecks stopped arriving and the bills were due. Now, you can add the owners among those who will be concerned about costly stadium tabs. Last week, Federal Judge David Doty delayed ruling on the NFLPA’s partial appeal of a Special Master’s decision in regard to the NFL’s negotiation of lockout provisions in its’ various television rights contracts. Presumably, this was to get the sides to get serious about reaching a negotiated agreement while the uncertainty of a large monetary ruling was still pending.
Late yesterday, a little more than 48 hours from the date set for the termination of the current collective bargaining agreement and start of a potential lockout, Judge Doty released his ruling. Judge Doty ruled that the NFL breached its duties to the NFLPA under a previously negotiated settlement agreement when it re-negotiated television rights deals with the various partners, including CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN, and DirecTV. (for those that are into that sort of thing, you can see the full 28-page opinion laying out the facts and reasoning here)
Basically, Judge Doty found that the NFL had an obligation under the terms of the SSA (stipulation and settlement agreement) to exercise good faith and best efforts to maximize total revenue for the NFL and the players. Television contracts comprise about half of the total revenue, and soon after the owner’s opted out early from the current agreement with the players that expires this week, they began renegotiations to extend the television deals with the various providers.
The NFL insisted on altered lockout provisions with the various networks that would allow them to receive the rights fees and not refund them immediately in the event of a lockout by the owners. According to the opinion, these were “deal breakers” for the NFL. Several of the networks balked at these provisions, and so the NFL gave up things in return.
NBC felt that the NFL was “hosing” it, and the NFL gave NBC an extra game starting in 2010 without any additional rights fees. ESPN got additional digital rights (live streaming, online highlights) at no increase in the rights fees for 2009 and 2010. When ESPN sought to avoid the lockout provision that would allow payment without games, the NFL insisted the digital rights and lockout provision were linked. The DirecTV deal was most onerous. It included a provision that actually provided for a 9% increase in the rights fee in the event of a lockout, and made a chunk of it non-refundable. According to Doty, “[t]he DirecTV contract created a financial incentive to institute a lockout.”
Judge Doty did not object to the NFL negotiating future years beyond the existing CBA to get favorable terms in the event of the lockout. However, in his opinion, the NFL providing additional rights and foregoing increases in rights fees in 2009 and 2010 as part of an exchange to get the lockout provisions was a violation of the current agreement requiring the NFL to use best efforts and good faith to maximize revenue for the players and themselves. The NFL traded present profits in the years of 2009 and 2010 (which would have been split with players as part of the agreement) for very favorable provisions that would strengthen its future negotiating position.
The reason the NFL wanted these favorable lockout provisions in lieu of other increases in rights fees is so it could move to a lockout for leverage against players, still satisfy its debt obligations, and not have any conditions of default on the sizable bills for things like the construction of “Jerry World”. According to the opinion, some of the debt obligations require the NFL to maintain minimum levels of income from television money; a lockout and earlier refund of television money to the networks could be a condition of default. In total, the NFL was going to get $4 billion in rights fees in 2011 even if the season began with a lockout, and $432 million of it (DirecTV) would never have to be repaid, and the rest would be repaid under favorable terms over time (money market rates for all but the ESPN deal).
With Doty’s ruling, that is now in doubt. He has set a future hearing to determine damages or injunctive relief (i.e., preventing the NFL from collecting). The NFL publicly may say this doesn’t affect the negotiations, but Jerry Jones and other owners with shiny new stadiums partially funded by private loans have several million reasons now to want a deal done, that he didn’t have if the league was going to get billions from its TV partners without ever taking a snap next year. Sure, the NFL will appeal, but the pressure is now on. Will it result in an agreement before a lockout? It can’t hurt that both sides now have some incentive to still pay the bills.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 10:35 AM
I love it. Hopefully this will put an end to some of the bullshit posturing and get these guys negotiating for real.
Next up: Union de-certification. If that happens, look out.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Lot of lawyerly talk.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Sick of the Sunday Ticket bullshit.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Those DirecTV terms are ridiculous. I can only imagine how the negotiations went:
Goodell: Bend over or we’re gonna let cable have Sunday Ticket, too.
DirecTV: Please be gentle.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 AM
I’m all for this is if increases the likelihood of football. Can’t wait for the inevitable appeal.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 AM
truth.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 AM
i hope so, i’d like to see some changes in the anti-trust exemption.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 AM
It’s what makes America great.
/Thank You For Smoking’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 AM
It’s really mind-boggling that the NFL can charge DirectTV billions for broadcast rights to games that it already charges billions to the networks to air. Insane.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 AM
and it’s crazy b/c you’d think they would be able to pull in more money, and exposure over time if they open it up to cable companies, too.
i know i’m one guy who would pay $350 for sunday ticket if comcast had it, and i won’t get directv just for that.
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Love it. Screw the NFL owners. I don’t think they realize that this time around, the public will be heavily on the player’s side (or at least more so than in the past). Americans are tired of rich white guys screwing everyone else, even if “everyone” in this case consists of millionaire athletes.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Unbelievable.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 AM
And don’t forget there a lot of people that can’t get DirecTV due to signal problems and living in apartment buildings.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 AM
Is that how much it is?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 AM
the NFL loves screwing over its fans by charging far too much for their product.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Damn. Serena Williams had a blood clot in her lung that required surgery.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 AM
it’s the same thing the MLB went through a few years ago when they decided to offer extra innings on cable. I don’t know the exact figures, but i doubt it worked out worse for them by doing so. i’d be getting it this year if i wasn’t planning to move and buy a house.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 AM
and it’s crazy b/c you’d think they would be able to pull in more money, and exposure over time if they open it up to cable companies, too.
I think the reason DirecTV pays so much is because they have the exclusive rights to the Sunday Ticket, they wouldn’t allow anyone else to get in on it. Smartest move ever made by DirecTV… it saved the company… they were losing a ton of customers once cable companies started to ad boxes, channels, HD, etc. Cable is much more convenient than DirecTV; but I know a lot of people that have DirecTV solely for the NFL.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 AM
It’s amazing the difference in public perception when you have an educated professional at the helm of the NFLPA, and not a concussion-addled ex-lineman.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 AM
+1
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Im done with Extra Innings until all games are available in HD. Back to MLB.tv for me.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 AM
The SuperFan package (all HD plus redzone) is 400+ I think.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 AM
Owners will get screwed because Goddell is too worried about public perception and will fold as soon as people start complaining and writers start saying mean things.
DeMaurice dont give a fuck, he wasnt to get his people paid.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:08 AM
really, not all games are in HD? is that from the provider or extra innings?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Goodell is going to have this judge suspended.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Bars are charged more like $3,000 for their package I believe.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Get a Roku.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 AM
The SuperFan package (all HD plus redzone) is 400+ I think.
Call and say that you’re going to switch to cable because you can’t afford it, and they’ll slash that amount in half. Numerous friends have done this.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Ha. They’ve been trying for years
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Damn.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Extra Innings. They usually have between 2-4 HD games a day. Center Ice was the same way, only had 1-2 HD games a day. The internet options are much better as most have applications compatible with a gaming system or a Roku now.
MLB.tv through the PS3 is outstanding. All games in HD, DVR capability and can watch any of the 4,830 games at any time during the season.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Especially since the judge has backed up what he has been saying all along. DSmith – 1 Owners – 0
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Something like 1 game a day is in HD I think? It didnt matter when I had a tiny TV, but it sucks now. And Comcast wont budge about adding more.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 AM
It’s something wierd like a rate per estimated customer or something like that. Kind of funny that most bars have specials on NFL Sundays, too.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 AM
i shall get mlb.tv for my PS3 then.
expensive?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 AM
DeMaurice went to UVA for his law degree. No wonder he knows what he’s doing.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I’m already reaching my tipping point with the NFL. In my 20s I bought DirecTV just for Sunday Ticket. Almost 15 years later, I wouldn’t dare do it. I’ve gotten to the point where I watch the Saints at noon, and if the Jets or an NFC East team is playing the late game, I change the channel or do something else. I can survive without the hype.
I’m for the 18 game schedule in theory, if it means fewer preseason games. But I can take it or leave it, and I can totally understand why the players don’t want it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Do you have an iPhone CJ? MLB.tv games are in HD on there this year. I know it’s small, but if you’re traveling the $15 app is worth it. It also has all the radio broadcasts.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 AM
don’t care about this one fucking way or the other.
play your fucking game players…don’t bitch about billions coming your way owners. those of us making $50k a year really don’t want to fucking hear about it, we just want footbaw.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM
I think DirecTV knows that it’s a restaurant and they have different fees for them.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM
$119 for the good package that includes picking which broadcast you want to watch, and live rewind/pause capabilities
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM
How much is this?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM
$119.99. Get the At-Bat application I just mentioned above, too. It’s only $15 and goes with your MLB.tv subscription. The application for your PS3 is free. You can still play the games on your computer as well.
It also has a section this year for you to input your fantasy players and it’ll automatically switch to the game when they come up to the plate or are on the mound.
Yeah, I’m a huge nerd. I know.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Yup.. I am planning on getting an IPhone in May
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Bread and circuses, Goodell. Don’t make the masses angry.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Boom!
/high fives Spencer
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Talk about continuing a theme.
/agrees with spence
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I bought DirecTV just for Sunday Ticket. Almost 15 years later, I wouldn’t dare do it.
If I lived in the same market as my team, I wouldn’t either. But it’s almost necessary if you don’t want to go drop 20-30 bucks at a bar every Sunday to watch your team play if you don’t live in your teams viewing area anymore. Think about it. $20 x 16 is $320. So… it’s really not THAT bad of a deal.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Money, unions, taxes. Shit, this has been an interesting afternoon (morning for you all but I’m in Italy).
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 AM
I should clarify one thing…
Your local broadcasts WILL be blacked out. So, for example, I can’t watch Cubs games on my phone, computer or PS3 application. You get the radio feed instead. However, if you live in the market, you obviously can watch the game on local TV/your general cable package. The only time it is frustrating is when you’re on the go and want to watch your home team on the train or something.
Also, the FOX Saturday games were blacked out last year. I think they’re changing that this season but not sure. Same goes for TBS or ESPN Sunday Nights but they don’t have multiple games at the same time. So, you can obviously watch them on your TV.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 AM
This was the only thing I didn’t like about Extra Innings last year (didn’t have an HD set like now though, still think I’m renewing that though, don’t have a PS3, I can deal)
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Buongiorno you lucky rascal.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 AM
that is amazing. i will be treating myself ASAP.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Oh yeah, that is exactly what it is. And it makes sense. It’s just you think about that while you’re enjoying 25 cent wings and cheap pitchers while watching football, it’s just, I dunno, weird yet serene. (Easy their, Jersey, you’ve got like an entire summer before football is back. Enjoy it.)
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 AM
I’m aware.
However, I won’t be able to really watch baseball until July when I get home. Maybe some afternoon games but with the time difference for 7 o’clock ET through 10 o’clock it’ll be tough.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Suppose I should comment on the actual post too…
I agree with Spencer. I don’t care what happens with the CBA, just play the game. Would like to debut my Sweetness jersey in September, not November.
It’s been frustrating to wake up, turn on Mike and Mike (yes, I watch it in the mornings) and all they have is Roger Cossack or some other legal dude on there giving me an update. I get it. They’re not making a lot of progress. Just tell me when it’s done.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 AM
But spencer, if you weren’t so lazy and stupid you would be rich just like those owners and football players.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Wii or XBox are also compatible if you have those. Otherwise, just get this.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 AM
This explains so much.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Thanks for the info SC. MLB.tv has the advantage over Extra Innings it seems.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Good to know for when I get back. I have to buy a new 360 though because my one at home broke last summer before I left to cross the pond.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Fuck that cable shit. Gonna Stream MLB.TV to my TV from my computer. Cant wait.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 AM
It’s been reduced to the 20 minutes I spend in the bathroom in the morning. And even in that short period of time, they manage to make me upset.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Sorry, I don’t scroll the papers to find the most depressing thing I can find to start my mornings. I also don’t watch CNN, MSNBC or the 35th replay of the SportCenter I fell asleep to.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
No, you really wouldn’t.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 AM
I’m looking at MLB.TV, and I think you’re incorrect about Xbox or Wii
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Who does?
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 AM
You should watch Headline News in the morning…Robin Meade’s rack is a great way to start the day
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 AM
There has been a deepening SC and Husker feud lately. I want to see this play out.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Just got a PS3 my Xbox is now a paperweight
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 AM
SC, the Wii cant stream mlb.tv… can it? Also, I dont see anywhere on the roku site that says it gets mlb, just nba and nhl.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Device list for mlb.tv. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/devices.jsp
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 AM
I have no clue what you’re talking about.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 AM
i can hope, even if the reality suggests otherwise.
i’d like to see teams do a couple things, signing contracts with local beer vendors instead of coors light for example, using different uniform manufacturers, etc. you know, things that would benefit the fan.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Robin Meade’s rack is a great way to start the day
Nice funbags… but WAY to much makeup on her.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Hawkeye is right. It’s Netflix that is on Wii and Xbox. My fault. Roku definitely works though.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 AM
I’ve been smelling a bit of vitriol between you two. Not much, just a little. I could be wrong. If I am, carry on.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 AM
mine has been a nice paperweight for a while. tried to sell it years ago, but every deal kept falling through. it’s a first wave, first gen machine, never had any problems with it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Why would you do such a foolish thing? Saw a tv show the other day about people upgrading houses in Tuscany. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 AM
I only have vitriol for one commenter, but he doesn’t drop in too much anymore.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 AM
WGN in the morning. Come on SC.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 AM
I know Hef had it for his Roku like 2 years ago so I’d ask him how the video quality transfers. He’s still on the Twitter machine.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 AM
They already do. Coors Light is the official beer of the NFL, where Miller Lite is the official beer sponsor of the Vikings. And different uniform manufacturers would be a terrible idea. Increase the costs of uniforms.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:40 AM
yes, but i AM lazy and stupid, and i’ve embraced it.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 AM
I just bought mine late last year. I bought it when Halo Reach came out. Found out Halo Reach sucks, 3 was better. I want to sell it and I do have a market for it but I might need it for something someday. I dont know.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Can we talk about videogames please instead of more labor/union issues? Honestly, I just want football back in September. Although I hate the Eagles organization, I still want to cheer Vick breaking ankles on a 40 yd rund.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 AM
This is already occurring.
Not sure how that would benefit the fan.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Become a college football fan and don’t worry.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 AM
I am but man can’t live on an inferior product alone…plus I don’t want to be denied the Thursday night opener at Lambeau
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 AM
hey, only three more years until wisky’s OL seasons and they’re competitive again!
but i have a feeling you wisky fans will still make asses out of yourselves whenever there’s a camera on, so that should be good enough to get you thru the lockout.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 AM
None of this changes the JV status of college football, but okay
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 AM
i know…i just had to get my wisconsin barbs in there.
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I’m going to be insufferable next week if the Badgers complete the sweep of the Bucks on Sunday…guess I have you to thank for caring about what is ultimately a meaningless game since OSU’s win last night knocked UW out of title contention (Diebler doing work, goddamn)
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 AM
That’s it, we’re going to see OSU play at Camp Randall in two years. Who’s with me?
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Shit, why wait two years when there’s a game in Columbus in October
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Going to a big time college game >>>>>>>>> going to an NFL game.
/not even close
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 PM
I’m looking forward to the Sea of Red invading Madison completing blanketing the town. It’s going to be hard differentiating who’s who during those games.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Because my travel budget for the year is blown. I can drive to Madison. Flying to Columbus, not as much.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 PM
This is so true. I’m excited b/c I’m pretty sure I’m going to Lincoln for the Neb/MSU game this year.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 PM
The Wisconsin fans will be the really fat ones.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Football’s better on TV anyhow, and you’ve never been to Lambeau so it actually is close (I’d rather see a game there than Camp Randall)…don’t base your judgments off of sitting amongst Atlanta fans in a sterile dome
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 PM
cheaper cost to purchase the products. once Reebok got the league contract, prices went up 10-15 bucks for the replica’s.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 PM
I’ve been to a few pro stadiums. The atmosphere can’t come close to a college game.
The fans in Lincoln are old. It’s not nearly as loud as it used to be.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 PM
ROAD TRIP PART DEUX!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:07 PM
From a viewing the action standpoint you’re dead on, but getting in Athens 8+ hours before a game and tailgating is so much fun. That’s what I miss most about being in college.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:08 PM
this is going to sound insanely pathetic, but the best football games ive been to in terms of atmosphere is on the rare occasions the browns are good. the stadium is just incredible…i couldn’t imagine what’d happen if they were legitimately decent.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:08 PM
And that’s fine, but I like football for the sport, not the fans…the atmosphere at college gyms destroy those at most NBA arenas but I wouldn’t say it’s a better product
I’m not trying to start a pissing contest here, just saying I’ll be pretty pissed if college football is the only game in town come September…a weekend is made better with both
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 PM
scratch that…night games in baton rouge are the best. hands down.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 PM
I won’t miss the NFL at all, and I like it. I know I’m a minority with that thinking, but I think the coverage of the NFL has reached the absurd anyway.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 PM
agreed.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 PM
I know its weird to say, but the NFL beats CFB in pure on field product, alone. CFB beats it EVERYWHERE ELSE. I’m planning on taking one trip to an SEC game next year. Would love to make it the Cocktail Party.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I need to relax… my dick is getting hard. Warm weather is coming, Jersey, you’ve got other shit to look forward to.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I agree with this. I watch the NFL during the season, but it’s not a huge deal to me (probably b/c I’m a lions fan). But I clear my schedule so I can watch 3 football games every fucking saturday.
On the other hand, I get frustrated watching college basketball b/c it is so inferior to the NBA. Go figure.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Fireman Ed is crushed, CRUSHED!
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM
you’re totally gonna blow your load by mid-may.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 PM
That would be a good one. I would suggest AUB-LSU or UGA-AUB for next year.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 PM
God.. I just looked at ND’s schedule… I better be a self made millionaire by then. Vs Navy in Ireland. Vs Miami at Soldier Field. AT FUCKING OKLAHOMA!
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Fireman Ed is crushed, CRUSHED!
/First moderation in awhile, progress
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 PM
2012 schedule, I should add.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 PM
WOW. i’ll be your personal attendant if you let me tag along. ill even wear my perfectly broken in ND hat.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
@Soldier Field . . . I will make sure I’m at that game. One of my closest friends is a die hard Hurricane fan (he went to law school there).
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
But there’s baseball less than a month away…
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Smells like Sex in here.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
then again…norman sucks.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
I was also considering Florida-LSU and LSU-Tennessee. I’ve got a date for LSU-West Virgina already set up.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
This.
SC, you going to opening day at Wrigley?
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Buddy of mine roots for Da U, might need to make this happen, short drive…the Badgers are playing NIU there next year, thinking of going down just to see the Mistake on the Lake
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Done. Just make sure we’re stocked up on… uhm, “supplies”.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 PM
…and now i feel like one of carmelo’s buddies.
/not complaining
//FOOTBAW!!!
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 PM
…and now i feel like one of carmelo’s buddies.
/not complaining
//FOOTBAW!!!
///MODERATION’D
////accidental caps lock left on’d
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Florida-LSU would be excellent, but AUB-LSU this year will be great. That is a very underrated game. UGA-AUB is just a great rivalry because we hate each other so much.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Sec 218, row 12, seats 4-5.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Nice. The wifey is gonna get us some tickets through her work. I’m also going on on April 2nd.
March 2nd, 2011 at 12:28 PM
I went four years ago when we played NIU. Save your money. 55,000 people is not a college environment and the tailgating a Soldier is a clusterfuck.