Dan LeBatard (and Dan Rather) Just Want All You New Media Users to Be Careful
Dan LeBatard has a radio show on 790 the Ticket and writes a column for the Miami Herald. He is an occasional contributor at BigLeadSports.com.
An interesting thing happens every time I question new media.
Doesn’t matter how gentle or non-judgmental I am. Doesn’t matter if I’m more curious than critical. Doesn’t matter that I like blogs, and I like seeing old media finally being held accountable, and I like that sports journalism has never been better because there are so many more, new and fresh voices and eyes to provide checks and balances.
Every time I write about the subject, every time, I get hit with an avalanche of name-calling and dismissive accusations. The volume of it — volume in terms of amount, volume in terms of intensity of noise — always makes me flinch. Why, I wonder, are you so angry at me/us/what I represent? What’d I do to piss you off so much? It is a furnace blast of gurgling resentment that feels like it has been building through decades of silence, and Twitter has only now allowed you to uncage. I hear you. We finally hear your voice. It isn’t necessary to be so loud and hostile with it.
My curiosity about new media, which I’ve written about before here, is a simple fascination with the evolution of our business. I don’t want you to get the hell off my lawn. It isn’t even my lawn. I’m renting here, just like you. So drink on the lawn. Have fun. Just don’t spit in my face on the rare occasions when I wander over and, amid this great party, wonder who is going to clean up all the urine on the porch when we’re done here.
This is what I always get in response to what I write about new media needing to have some rules to govern itself (not my rules, just rules): I’m protecting my precious, pathetic little turf. I’m ancient and threatened. I’m afraid about how quickly I’m becoming irrelevant. I can assure you, according to a source very close to me, that I am none of those things. I’m insecure about plenty of things, but my job status is not one of them. It is too easy a default dismissal, the cliche equivalent of me telling you that you work from a computer in your mother’s basement, and it is the greatest soothing involved in calling someone else a hater: It allows you permission to not look inside. Know this: I’m grateful for this ridiculous thing I do for a living, profoundly, and I absolutely don’t think I am more entitled to this platform, this voice, this fun than you are.
And yet I get so much, “Fuck you, LeBatard. It’s our turn now. No more filters, agendas, biases, protecting of athletes. You don’t decide what is news any more. Ital:We:ital decide now.” To which I scratch my head and say, “But you’ve always decided. The marketplace always decides.” That is why, now more than ever, TMZ feels entitled to peer in the bedrooms of famous people, our right to know so overwhelming that Deadspin will even trample a 17-year-old girl just to get a closer look.
Journalism is a cool and powerful tool, righting wrongs when used correctly and wronging rights when not. All I’ve ever asked is that we all be aware of its power, and be careful and judicious with it. I try very hard not to sound like your parents yelling about that infernal racket that produced rock n’ roll, but it is hard not to notice some of the things that are happening because of blurred lines and stretched boundaries. A Rutgers kid killed himself after his friends posted video of him kissing a boy. A Miami county commissioner committed suicide after it was reported he slept with a transvestite. As this hunt moves toward making more and more sport of human beings, famous and not famous, we should at least be aware that public shame is dangerous as entertainment. And we might want to be self-aware about when we are rationalizing our voyeurism/entitlement by filing it under the greater-good umbrella of “news.”
“I lament the corporatization, politicazation and trivialization of news,” Dan Rather says.
We were talking about this on the radio the other day. He’s a lot smarter than I am.
“In the end, the public always decides what is news,” he said. “But the journalist is the proverbial gatekeeper. There is a school of thought — one I don’t subscribe to — that the old standards of journalism are gone, yesterday. This is today and tomorrow, and today and tomorrow you can get up and say whatever you want to say and go viral worldwide, and pretty much anonymously. These are huge questions we have to ask ourselves. Where are we headed right now? We’re headed to an ever lowering standard everywhere. Appeal to the base instincts, with at least some of the time, lives ruined. We’re on a downhill slope. It’s a societal question, not a journalism question.”
I know. I know. He sounds like your grandfather. But your grandfather accrued a bit of wisdom along the path, you know? The consumer can always shrug his shoulders and say, “I want what I want. I want gossip. I want to know what is going on in the life of public figures. It is my right.” That’s fine. You are entitled to feel that way, new and fresh. But if no one feels responsible, if anything goes, if no one sees consequences, then nothing gets prevented and, next thing you know, a Rutgers kid is killing himself. Once something horrible happens because of our nosy need to know, or be entertained, or make sport of human beings, there is no going back and fixing it. It does no good to feel bad only afterward, and it shows no vision.
The only recourse is to be careful with the tool now, to understand its power. Old, antiquated journalism has rules in place that, for example, will not publish a rape victim’s name, not because it is illegal but because it is an agreed-upon standard. As a texter wrote in to my radio show the other day, “New or old media should not be excused from the standard. New media, like the teenager that it is, must accept discipline to be taken seriously.”
“I have no idea where this is all headed, and that is what we’re all trying to reconcile,” Rather says. “Where does the public’s right to know, and have their voices heard, meet the right to privacy? None of us have the answer to this, but what are the standards? Do we have any standards? What are the standards right now? We’re basically operating without any. It’s all well and good to say the old standards are outdated and let’s do away with them. OK. But if that’s true, what if any standards are we going to put in their place?”
But what does he know, right?
He’s old.
He’s being protective of his precious, pathetic little turf.
He’s ancient and threatened.
He’s afraid of how quickly he became irrelevant.
Or maybe he just cares.
And maybe he’d like you to at least hear and consider his viewpoint before he is gone.

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February 15th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
LeBatard is writing for this site now?
February 15th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
I’m afraid about how quickly I’m becoming irrelevant
At least you aren’t down to the level of doing podcasts with Jay Marriotti.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
I hear Marriotti is looking for a job.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Loved that interview with Rather yesterday, Dan. Great piece.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
LeBatard is writing for this site now?
when he needs to swear. i mean, old school journalists didn;t need the word fuck to be legible and relevant
/sitrring shit
February 15th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
LeBatard needs more access.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Dan Rather is a lot smarter than you? So then you cant tell the difference between a 30 year old document and one that was printed out the day before using Word Perfect either?
February 15th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
i don’t get all the hubbub, bub. and i am an old-school journalist, class of 1990, pre interweb.
the way it is is not going to go away. if you don’t like what you read somewhere, go somewhere else. i happen to think it’s outrageous that reporters in print and electonic mediums, old and new school, still go interview a family after a tragedy, like the day after. who does this serve? why put the family through this? know what i do, i don;t watch or read
February 15th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
See it helps to know Cortes.
/Fuck Cortes and the packers
February 15th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Dan “Fake But Accurate” Rather.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Thoughtful stuff from Rather and LeBetard.
And as I click over to the Gawker sites I see they have no problem getting mainstream advertisers.
How little would a person have to be reimbursed before it wasn’t worth it to be a paid stalker anymore?
February 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Says the man who knowingly used fake documents to try and sway an election.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Quality stuff.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:42 PM
Someone famous once died very tragically and the place where I worked wanted me to call the person’s mother and try to set up an interview with her before she even had a chance to make funeral arrangements for her child who’s body was probably not even recognizable.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:42 PM
I enjoyed this, though whenever I see LeBatard’s name I think of Dexter. It’s the Miami thing, but still strange.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Strange indeed.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:44 PM
And who did not understand why people were making a big deal about Reagan when he died.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Were we angry? I didn’t think we were angry. Well, I didn’t think I was angry, at least. And I’m angry 99% of the time.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
I totally agree with this piece, but haven’t we had this discussion often? Yes, blogs need to be responsible in what they do. TBL said this in the LA Times piece a few years ago (one where other bloggers went nuts on him thinking he was a “sell out,” if my memory serves me correctly). That’s the problem with many people in new media today. They don’t realize the power they hold. They don’t get that putting a video of a young male on the web showing him kissing another young male could ruin him. Not only do some not understand they power, worse still, some do, but don’t care. Those are the ones that need to be watched out for.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
“So drink on the lawn. Have fun. Just don’t spit in my face on the rare occasions when I wander over and, amid this great party, wonder who is going to clean up all the urine on the porch when we’re done here.”
Nice piece. I hope to see more of this and Dan use some more examples and use more real examples as think-piece discussions.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:48 PM
This should definitely turn into a “DAN RATHER IS THE SUX!!” / “NO HE ISN’T!!1!” thread. That would be so worthwhile.
/looks for sharp object
February 15th, 2011 at 3:49 PM
I will certainly agree that his exit from CBS was terrible, but the man has done some fantastic reporting in his life. I think it would be rather comical to view him only through the lens of that incident.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
They don’t get that putting a video of a young male on the web showing him kissing another young male could ruin him. Not only do some not understand they power, worse still, some do, but don’t care. Those are the ones that need to be watched out for.
the former case does not exist. there is just no way that someone could not know the effect. why else would they do it. the latter group is much more likely
February 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM
This one? I must say I fall on the other side of the spectrum then.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
You don’t need to fall, you just need to shave.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
I enjoy how journalists love to talk about their codes and ethics and touch choices. Plenty of professions have unwritten rules and ethical standards that people are expected to follow, but we dont sit around naval gazing about them.
I like Dan Rather Reports on HDNet, I dont watch much news but I’ll occasionally stop on that.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
Words? While you’ve been dickin’ around at some fucking company golf tournaments, I been out in the world, giving my word and backing it up with action.
While that’s a rip from the Insider (re: 60 minutes), Dan Rather had his sleeves rolled up and hit more home runs than foul balls. No reporter has ever batted 1.000. This is precisely why “corporatization, politicazation” (sic) comment is true – even he felt these pressures and fell victim to them. Think larger – Dan’s “new media” isn’t just social media – it’s also political opinion shows disguised as news – on both sides of the ledger.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:51 PM
Michael C Hall doing voiceover work in a car commercial just made me think of using whatever SUV it was to dispose of a body…who were the ad wizards who came up with that one?
February 15th, 2011 at 3:52 PM
For that specific incident, you may be correct. I do think people still underestimate the power of the internet, as crazy as that may seem to us.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Teenagers do shit like it all the time. Whether it’s through YouTube or text messages or whatever.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
I really do. I’m starting to get a little Lanny MacDonald action going on my face now. It’s time for a trim. I can smell last night’s chili even.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
It’s a very good news program.
But that’s what writers do…they write. It’s also very important for the media to check itself and try to constantly improve what they do. I think we need far more LeBatard’s in the media. Especially the important media, like those who cover our gov’t.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Good point.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
+1
February 15th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
And at the same time I complain about the practices of Gawker, TMZ, and whoever, I’ll take a second to update Facebook or Twitter and generally make myself more publicly accessible. Stupid. The Facebook account has got to die.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
That’s because the behind the scenes nature of those professions isn’t vital to the rest of the population. You and I could talk all day about the intricacies and inner workings of servers, HTML code, etc. The rest of the world doesn’t really care, just that it works. I like it when journalists take a look at their profession as a whole. Not navel gazing imo.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
TBL is really taking it upon himself to keep this Jimmer bullshit alive, isn’t he?
February 15th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
This should definitely turn into a “DAN RATHER IS THE SUX!!” / “NO HE ISN’T!!1!” thread. That would be so worthwhile.
/looks for sharp object
I second this.
/looks for something to drink/huff.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Imagine being a tween who just did or was caught doing something embarrassing that someone documented with their phone. That would be fucking terrifying these days.
February 15th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
I think the problem is these articles seem like journalists are accusing the people that read their writing of being bad people for talking/reading/being curious about celebrities. These articles also come off as preachy because they tell the general public, “You don’t have the right to know celebrities’ personal business and you don’t have the right to mock these celebrities even when they do bad things like cheat on their wives.” Personally, I think it’s a waste of time to scold people over the internet for being gossips.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
to us.
people. to us people
February 15th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Somewhere in Western PA, Coop, with tears in his eyes, slowly nods his head.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
I’m never on Facebook and should just get rid of the damn thing. I guess laziness has won this bout so far.
I can only imagine. Kids are so cruel because they don’t understand how mean they can be. With phones that can record video and stuff like that, a kid does one stupid thing and BAM!! He/she is all over the web.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
I bet LeBatard smells like self-tanner a furlong away.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:02 PM
It’s time for a trim. I can smell last night’s chili even.
well, i usually don;t wash my face until mid morning the night after licking the poontung for just such a reason
February 15th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Teenagers do shit like it all the time. Whether it’s through YouTube or text messages or whatever.
still don;t buy the possibility they don;t understand the effect of exposure. the news has been full to the brim of folks being caught texting, taping, etc. for the target audience of many of these ‘gotcha’ sites to not understand
February 15th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Best thing I’ve read on this site in a long time. Well done Dan.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
chilipoon? eww.
/is it 5:00 yet?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
Best thing I’ve read on this site in a long time. Well done Dan.
Have you forgotten Duffy’s Michigan posts this quickly?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:08 PM
Yep. I’m on board this train.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:09 PM
I think they don’t understand the gravity of the exposure. They understand the basic principle, but now just how serious it can be.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
We can all still be in agreement that Deadspin is an embarrassment though, right? TBL should outbid them for the FJM reunion this year so I don’t have to give them any page clicks
February 15th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Not the way I read it, really.
I am reminded of that Village Voice piece the other day about how dangerous it is to be a source of any story these days. Particularly once Gawker takes an interest in the story.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Many moons ago TBL linked to a podcast of LeBatard’s radio show. I gave it a listen and have been listening regularly since. It’s the only sports radio show I can tolerate for more than 3 seconds. His perspective is so much different than all of the other gasbags out there, it’s refreshing.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
GREAT ARTICLE DAN!
On here, I’m the old guy Dan describes, and I can attest to the same feelings/frustrations.
still don;t buy the possibility they don;t understand the effect of exposure. the news has been full to the brim of folks being caught texting, taping, etc. for the target audience of many of these ‘gotcha’ sites to not understand
hate to break it to you, but that’s EXACTLY what happens. Also, I don’t think he’s “scolding” you for being a gossip. He’s saying why do you think you have the right to know this shit, and, when anyone questions that right, everyone gets defensive.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
I don’t think we do have the right to know their personal business. Politicians are the exception, as we elect them and we need to know if they are doing illegal things (not who they’re fucking, by the way…unless they are banging minors). We have no right to know anything about a divorce in my opinion. If the person in question wants to tell us, that’s his/her prerogative. But I don’t think it’s our right at all.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
Absolutely. And we’re talking teenagers. Acting impulsively and reacting to peer pressure is biological.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
I think they don’t understand the gravity of the exposure. They understand the basic principle, but now just how serious it can be.
sure there are exceptions, but maturity does not come into play here. kids today know a lot, bombarded by media and personal communications. very hard to be unaware of a mel gibson rant, favre or the NY rep cell-phone photos, tiger’s voicemails, name anyone’s sex tape
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
What battle is he fighting?
Is his argument that Jimmer will be a good NBA player or that Jimmer will be an All Star?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
If you didn’t feel a little bit dirty when reading that Sanchez stuff that Daulerio posted, you might be dead inside.
There’s “giving the market what it wants”, and then, there’s profiting from what appeared to be a 17 year old girl making mistakes a 17 year old makes.
Good post, Dan….
February 15th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
LeBatard’s pieces are incredibly better than 99.9% of the stuff I read on “new media” sites. My point is, before people are quick to bash him, respect him for the professional he is. He is not trying to shit on our parade. For example this quote from above:
He is not scolding anyone for being a gossip. He is merely stating that EVERYONE (new & old) should at least conform to some measure of discretion when gossiping. I think that’s something that any rational reader here can agree with.
Well done Lebby. Signed, Miami homer.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
People in glass houses and all that stuff.
The main problem is blogs and internet newspapers sell their ad space based on page views. I can guarantee you I have never ever bought anything from an ad that appears on one of the websites I read for sports/entertainment/world news. No Chinese Women for Marriage, no Boston Market, no T Ocho Show, etc. If I’m buying gatorade, it’s not because I saw an ad for it when I was commenting on this website about Cameron Diaz being unattractive.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Atlanta pro sports fucks up again.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Love their carver sandwiches.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
I like Mariotti… too bad he’s wasted in a city where no one cares about sports
/ at least he knows it
// I wouldn’t move, either
February 15th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
no, but barbs at cameron diaz always helps.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Dale Tallon is nothing if not consistent.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
whatever side yer on, things ain’t changing until all media colludes–’we all agree to not cross this line.’ which is why it ain;t happening. so simply don;t read/listen/watch what you don’t agree with or enjoy
February 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
For a second there I thought you were linking to a sport we actually care about.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
How dare you scold internet gossips!
Surprised they’ve never had TBL on so he and Stugotz could talk about the Jets
February 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
I don’t know what this means.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Enjoy that you know that no one would click if you made it clear it was about hockey.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I only know him from my college years of watching ATH. I can’t stand him because of it. He and Plaschke (sp?) were painful to listen to.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Dale Tallon is nothing if not consistent.
He’s with the Panthers. What did he do w/ that?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Dale Tallon is nothing if not consistent.
Dale Tallon is in Florida. Blame this one on Rick Dudley. Awful, awful contract.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Page views and clicks…this is why facebook is not as valuable as they once thought. Too much fatigue from the same people.
A small percentage of the people click a large percentage of the ads. This will all work itself out in several years (always take the low 7 figures when you can).
February 15th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
tallon’s a pretty good golfer
February 15th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Can a person just say things like this without explaining?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Sportsgal, you don’t think you have, but you have. Advertising is a seductress.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Holy shit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/15/60minutes/main20032070.shtml?tag=exclsv
February 15th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Seabrook probably not going to be a Blackhawk next year. Thanks, Rick.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:20 PM
I actually meant LeBarard I like. Mariotti I hate. I was reading two things at once.
/pleads with TBL for a ‘delete comment’ button
// asks everyone else to just ignore the fact that my brain is on vacation
///uses the morning spent trying to stop 8000gal/month of water leaking from the house intake pipe as an excuse
February 15th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
I just saw this on Twitter. So fucked up.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Listen, if you want to take one decision like Deadspin choosing to exploit a 17yr old, then stick to scolding for the one topic. But when you lump everyone into one group and tell them “you’re a horrible person” every time they click on a link that has some sort of celeb gossip story on it, then it just comes off as preachy and disingenuous.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Just explained
/hates Mariotti
//likes LeBatard
///can’t multitask
February 15th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Dude, wha? There are companies that do nothing but design games for Facebook that are worth several billion.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
That is horrible about lara logan
February 15th, 2011 at 4:23 PM
I like Mariotti
I actually meant LeBarard I like. Mariotti I hate. I was reading two things at once.
Whoo. I was going to have to whip your ass.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Nothing. I’m stupid. I was confusing him and Torchetti. I thought Torch went to FL and Tallon went to ATL.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:24 PM
I qualified it as “pro” sports. Should have been abundantly clear that you didn’t care.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:24 PM
I take it from a reader’s perspective, not a content provider’s. There are just going to be trashy blogs just like there are trashy periodicals and trashy news shows and trashy channels. I feel like this very well crafted essay was a waste of time speaking to people who don’t give a shit if there should be rules or parameters to sharing news. It’s on the people who click the articles and surf the web to decide what is worth consuming and what isn’t. Plain and simple. Like the wise ghetto poet Malice from the Clipse said:
It shames me to no end,
To feed poison to those who could very well be my kin
But where there’s demand, someone will supply
So I feed them their needs at the same time cry
February 15th, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Ha. I am sort of sad. You had me riveted.
Re: Lara Logan. Awful, terrifying, hope she’s ok. “Saved by a group of women”? Would like to know more about that.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Valued at several billion…I am familiar.
But they are shitting their pants about reports like this…
and this…
February 15th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Where did he say that?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
I wasn’t taking a shot at the readers of the Sanchez stuff on Deadspin so much as I was taking a shot at AJ and Gawker.
I read it just like everyone else. I just didn’t feel very good about it. I just don’t understand how/why that was ever a story to begin with.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
So is Kaberle or Bogosian going to Boston?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Best thing I’ve read on this site in a long time. Well done Dan.
You’ll never make a name for yourself writing shit like that
February 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Is it drug dealers or drug users who are to blame?
/honest question
February 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Atlanta is going to regret it if they dump Bogosian. Is he even old enough to drink yet?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
CTR matters a lot less for websites like Facebook. Hernia’s comment to SG is sort of relevant.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
lara logan is quite a package–beautiful, south african accent and smart as a whip. i drooled over her iraq coverage back in the day
February 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Excellent question for which, I have no answers.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
What government system are we using?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Although, Babar, I did enjoy this part of one of your linked pieces that is relevant to this thread…
According to an AdWeek report, the only ad categories that were able to crack 0.1 percent click-throughs were “tabloids and blogs” (0.165 percent) and “media and entertainment” (0.154 percent).
February 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
i thought the US Gov’t was to blame…?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
I loved Lebatard’s piece the other day that inspired this follow-up. It’s not bloggers that are the problem, though. It’s the public’s inability to tell from fact from fiction or demand proof/accountability/sources be cited.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Atlanta is going to regret it if they dump Bogosian. Is he even old enough to drink yet?
Dumping Bogosian after giving Bufuglien that awful contract extension would rank among the worst tandem of moves in recent years.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Oh look at Tottenham getting an away goal and shit.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
And this dust-up between Anderson Cooper, Howard Kurtz, and David Gregory is semi-related and really interesting, if you’re into this sort of thing.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Got to keep publishing the gossip. It’s the money maker.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Big time. How do you pay a one way player $5.2M a year? That has to be one of the worst contracts I’ve seen in a while. $3.5M a year should have been the ceiling for Buff.
Now… if ATL wants to talk about sending Bogosian and a pick this way for Seabs…
February 15th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
I wasn’t directly quoting him, I was responding to your comment. You were being snarky because I said I thought it was silly to scold internet readers en masse. I was saying you can scold as much as you want but the message appears disingenuous when you when you make generalizations about all internet readers like those Dan made in his story yesterday.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
And yes, there is more than a bit of irony in Dan writing this story for a website who’s headline story over the last week has been the discovery of the identity of a college kid’s girlfriend.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
I don’t know that you can separate consumers from providers in blame. The conservative in me wants to put the responsibility on individuals for eating fast food, being overweight, using drugs, looking at tabloids and enabling the providers. The more liberal realist in me understands that we have a society where providers ‘prey’ on human weakness/instincts with advertising etc.
If you just let it all go it should all even out in the end. If McDonalds doesn’t care about customers and they all die, they’ll go out of business, and now we are a healthier society (so their customer’s survival is in their best interest as well). It’s how natural selection improves things.
Unfortunately, the most important part of evolution is extinction, and I don’t think we are willing to undergo that, to force our society into better standards of consumption. Negative influences are something we have to address from both a consumer AND a provider point of view.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
They have plenty of money to spend. They pay the dog known as Antropov 4 mil a year. He has a lot of value to that organization. Bognosian or Sopel will most likely be traded since they now have 17 mil invested in Oduya, Hainsey, Buf and Enstrom.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Yep.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I think I realized what bothers me so much about these types of articles – I’m sick of people in a position of power complaining about the downfall of our society without offering any suggestions on how to make things better. If you hate the way things are then what are YOU doing to change it?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I think a bigger issue for sports journalism is reporters having the same agent as players they cover. I think Lebatard is above board, but the fact he has same agency as Riley, Spo, Lebron, Wade and Bosh, on the surface, seems worrisome. Mayor McCheese, on the other hands, seems the worst kind of sycophantic reporter these days.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Sounds like this world could use a zombie-pocalypse, no?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Bognosian or Sopel will most likely be traded since they now have 17 mil invested in Oduya, Hainsey, Buf and Enstrom.
If they move Bogosian they are fucking retarded.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
I think a bigger issue for sports journalism is reporters having the same agent as players they cover
no, the biggest issue is reporters having agents. as soon as they do, the conflicts of interest begin
February 15th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Snowpocalypse down here made my golf clubs cry. I’m dont with anything ending in -ocalypse
February 15th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
What if they can get Toronto’s 1st from Boston?
February 15th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
What if they can get Toronto’s 1st from Boston?
I wouldn’t make that trade if I was ATL.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Yeah. Not within the conference. Then again, I wouldn’t have paid Buff $26M. Expect a Kovalchuk-like first half from him next year.
February 15th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Here’s my sad, fucked-up link of the day.
The father first raped his daughter on her 12th birthday, after the other children had left her party, prosecutors said as a stomach-turning incest case opened in western Germany.
February 15th, 2011 at 5:00 PM
Very true, and no sports writer can claim otherwise.
February 15th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
whats up with all these eurotrash fathers fucking their daughters? something in the water over there
February 15th, 2011 at 5:05 PM
And Husker Dog totally redeems himself! I love you, man.
this is what he was talking about it
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/22/sports/sp-blogs22
this was the reaction i think he was talking about
http://www.danshanoff.com/2008/06/on-mcintyre-and-future-of-sports-blogs.html
saw the guy about a year later (maybe longer, who knows). he walks up to me and says hi like he never wrote that.
February 15th, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Dan Shanoff is a smarmy bandwagon fan little bitch whose obsession and oral sex of Tebow and Urban Meyer made his writing unreadable ever since he left espn.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Few are as insightful and thoughtful as LeBatard and Dan Rather (in spite of his occasional politically-motivated lapses over the years) is the most relevant 80-year-old out there.