Jason Whitlock Has Opened A Cut With Hall of Fame Selectors
Jason Whitlock does not think too highly of the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection process. Before the vote, he foreshadowed his displeasure if Willie Roaf did not get in this year. After the selections came out, he took the process to task.
It would have probably died right there with 24 hours, written off as a Big Sexy Tantrum by Jeff George’s biggest fan and replaced by the next story of labor strife, except that some Hall of Fame selectors have brought it to life. In doing so, they ignored the maxim “better to keep silent and let them think you fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
First it was Len Pasquarelli spoke on radio on 1560 the game:
There’s been enough from idiots like Jason Whitlock who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, criticizing the process and the fact that Willie Roaf didn’t get in. “Let me ask you this: In his championing of Willie Roaf . . . how is he any less subjective, for instance, than the people who voted for Richard Dent? Isn’t it his opinion and nothing more? There’s no criteria by which he goes. Isn’t it his opinion that Willie Roaf should be a member of the Hall of Fame? What does he have to go by that’s concrete about that?”
Oh boy. I think Pasquarelli just said they don’t use objective criteria to determine Hall entry.
I also don’t think he wants to go down the path of comparing Roaf and Dent, who the committee has passed over many times in the past. Willie Roaf played in 11 pro bowls and was selected as a first team all pro in seven different seasons. How does that compare to the 24 offensive tackles in the Hall? The pro bowls ties him for first with Anthony Munoz.
In contrast, Richard Dent was selected to 4 pro bowls and was a first team all pro twice (1984 & 1985). Compared to the defensive ends already in Canton, that ties him for last. Pasquarelli really should not act like there is no difference between their candidacies. If the selectors had followed the precedent of who was in the Hall at the respective positions, then it was a clear cut objective choice.
Then Tom Kowalski, another Hall voter, wrote in support of the current process. In regard to Roaf, he said:
Some people are outraged that Willie Roaf wasn’t a first-ballot Hall of Famer and that only morons would fail to see that. And I agree — partly. If Roaf had been up during last year’s class, he would’ve made it on the first ballot.
That makes no sense. Last year’s class included two of the best of all-time in Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith, and three others (Randle, Jackson and Grimm) who were selected ahead of Richard Dent. This year, Dent was selected ahead of Willie Roaf.
I don’t agree with everything Whitlock said in those articles, but he has struck a nerve with touching on the transparency of the process and the politics in the selection process. So far, the transparency that has come out in the form of selectors responding hasn’t alleviated those concerns.
[photo via Getty]


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February 13th, 2011 at 11:55 AM
fuk whitlock, whores!
February 13th, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Good take, Lisk.
I can’t believe that some HOF wasted their time responding to Whitlock. That is exactly what he wants, attention.
February 13th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
This article is the appropriate response to both sides of this issue. http://sbn.to/ettY3T
February 13th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Some people are outraged that Willie Roaf wasn’t a first-ballot Hall of Famer and that only morons would fail to see that. And I agree — partly. If Roaf had been up during last year’s class, he would’ve made it on the first ballot.
That makes no sense.
That was exactly my response after reading it the first time. Agreed that the HOF isn’t all that important in the grand scheme of things, but if you are going to be a voter, there should be some sort of logic to how you approach the process.
February 13th, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Jimmy Howard has his clown shoes on today.
February 13th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Whitlock is just doing what he does best. Getting attention.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:08 PM
February 13th, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Strike fail.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Like the Whitlock column, and though I read and admire Peter King’s stuff, I enjoyed JW’s shot at PK – he uses the HOF vote to have players call him back. Which he then drops 3-4 mentions every monday. I also think PK’s angst over the HOF vote is a bit melodramatic.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Roaf 2 All Decade Teams! How do you argue against that?
February 13th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
That is not fair. Cut him some slack. Ever since Brett Favre dumped him two years ago, he has been an emotional wreck. It’s not easy getting over a long term relationship.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Whitlock is 100% right. The process is a joke. Done by people who just want power n don’t care about legitimacy.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:28 PM
whitlock is an attention whore, no doubt, but on this topic, he has a valid point. I want a journo to do an extensive piece on the different lobbying tactics and backdoor deals that happen in order to get a player into the HOF.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Willie Roaf played in 11 pro bowls and was selected as a first team all pro in seven different seasons. How does that compare to the 24 offensive tackles in the Hall? The pro bowls ties him for first with Anthony Munoz.
Lisk: I’m going fetch on you & say this is the equivalent of a pitcher winning a Cy Young with 18 wins & a 4.50 ERA.
Ruben Brown of the Bills made 9 ProBowls as a guard (4 AllPro). Jason Peters has made the last 4 Pro Bowls and is in the bottom 1/3 of LT’s in the league. Brown was as overrated and as average a guard as you could find
Whitlock is a fucking idiot who has jumped the shark
February 13th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
whitlock is right but he is no different than the people he goes after.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
How, exactly, is this process any different than any other “award” process? They ALL are subjective. The Best Picture, Grammy, All-Pro, whatever is an OPINION. The picture/song/guy who gets the most positive OPINIONS wins
February 13th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
boom.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
Stats!! STATS! STAAAAAAAAAAATS!!!
/wildly flailing arms
//wets self
February 13th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
In all seriousness, why does anyone care who’s in the HOF? I constantly bitch about people getting into the baseball Hall, but honestly why should it matter?
You remember players. You remember teams. A guy getting into the Hall doesn’t legitimize your view of the player any more or less, does it? I care for about five seconds who should be in the Hall when the voting process is going down, but other than that I don’t care. It’s gotten to the point where people just like to bring it up in arguments: “So-and-so is a better player because he’s in the Hall Of Fame.”
Like JPQ said, it’s all subjective. Just because a group of people tries to paint something as “better” doesn’t make it so.
/end pointless rant
//Go St. John’s
February 13th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
This girl I’m creeping on facebook is fucking hot.
February 13th, 2011 at 1:50 PM
link?
February 13th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Facebook: responsible for more hook ups than we will ever know
February 13th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
In all seriousness, why does anyone care who’s in the HOF? I constantly bitch about people getting into the baseball Hall, but honestly why should it matter?
This.
February 13th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
word son
February 13th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Put Pete Rose in the HOF!
February 13th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
well yeah
February 13th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Ruben Brown of the Bills made 9 ProBowls as a guard (4 AllPro). Jason Peters has made the last 4 Pro Bowls and is in the bottom 1/3 of LT’s in the league. Brown was as overrated and as average a guard as you could find
Whitlock is a fucking idiot who has jumped the shark
Pro Bowls are imperfect sure. Lineman can get them on reputation, sure, they don’t do that 11 times on reputation. Reputation catches up. Roaf’s last 4 were on offenses that averaged close to 30 points. I would compare awards within positions. Which is why Jason Peters has no chance (no all pros) while Roaf is one of the best of all time.
February 13th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
maybe we should conecntrate on removing some folks from HOFs before we worry about putting some in. looking at you joe
/go long bobby
February 13th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
No Football Sundays Make KC Res Sad.
February 13th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Toddzilla
February 13th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
This.
February 13th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
I love how Lisk says, “I would’ve avoided all the points Whitlock made in his column if the HOF voters hadn’t screwed up and responded. Dammit. Now I have to respond.”
The HOF process is a joke. It’s an unethical, political power grab by sacred cows in the media. Blogs and bloggers used to be about challenging the establishment. Bashing Peter King for loving Brett Favre is freaking harmless. Exposing his maintenance of the unethical HOF process is not harmless.
February 13th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Is that really Whitlock?
February 13th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Like the message. Dislike the messenger.
1. As mentioned in the article, he inflates Jeff George’s greatness just because they played together.
2. Didn’t he say that his alma mater, Ball State, should be in the BCS.
3. I’m sure that his love for Willie Roaf has nothing to do with him playing in KC. I’m guessing their relationship is special.
This bum points out everyone else’s biases, but is blind to his own. This is the worst thing about Whitlock.
February 13th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Yes. He pops in every now and again.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Like the message. Dislike the messenger.
1. As mentioned in the article, he inflates Jeff George’s greatness just because they played together.
2. Didn’t he say that his alma mater, Ball State, should be in the BCS.
3. I’m sure that his love for Willie Roaf has nothing to do with him playing in KC. I’m guessing their relationship is special.
1. He has acknowledged that it is a funny joke and he plays it up. No harm.
2. I don’t know about this. Didn’t see anything
3. He said in his Foxsports column that he has no personal relationship with Roaf. Roaf was awesome. Too bad he languished in New Orleaons for so long.
Whitlock does what he does. Get people to talk. I like his writing although I doubt he would be someone I would want to hang out with.
On the other hand, I could give a fuck about any Hall of Fame.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:06 PM
I thought he was done popping in when he unfollowed Huffy Puff and TBL on Twitter, but I guess not.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
I’m pretty sure Whitlock just quoted me as saying something I never said. In fact, I’m pretty sure I also said that a) Roaf was a no-brainer selection this year, and b) in the immediate aftermath of the selections, saying politics clearly played a role behind closed doors. I just didn’t want to beat it over readers heads until the voters decided to speak out.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
One other thing… can we get a new stock photo of Whitlock? Him passed out on a sofa and this one with the transvestite Asian chicks are getting old.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
stop..you put too much in to the hall of fame. in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:08 PM
One other thing… can we get a new stock photo of Whitlock? Him passed out on a sofa and this one with the transvestite Asian chicks are getting old.
There are none on Getty Images for me to download, so I had to go to the archives. There was one of some guy named Isaac Whitlock.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:09 PM
KC, when Ball State was unbeaten a few years ago, he became the poster journalist crusading for BCS reform. I don’t know if he has said anything else about it before and after.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
“There are none on Getty Images for me to download, so I had to go to the archives. There was one of some guy named Isaac Whitlock.”
Oh, forgot about the Getty Images thing.
Breesus – Ok, I sort of remember that. I wasn’t attcking you, just didn’t remember.
February 13th, 2011 at 4:23 PM
On the pic:
Ho, bitch, ho.
February 13th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
I have a column archive at FOX. I never said Ball State belonged in the BCS discussion. I actually wrote my Cards were probably a bit overrated when they cracked the top 15.
February 13th, 2011 at 5:13 PM
I didn’t know he could get up off the ground.
February 13th, 2011 at 5:39 PM
sharks live in water, dumbass
February 13th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Gfunk wins.
February 13th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
have a column archive at FOX. I never said Ball State belonged in the BCS discussion. I actually wrote my Cards were probably a bit overrated when they cracked the top 15.
Pork Chop
I remember something discussing about this. I’m getting old. You were all on the QB being great. Getting old sucks. Combing through archives sucks more.
February 13th, 2011 at 5:53 PM
i lollerskated
February 13th, 2011 at 6:01 PM
February 13th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
Wow, I fucked that up six ways from Sunday. The bolded part is exactly the way Whitlock works. And go figure, he misquoted (well, was wrong) about something someone said. He’s become a hack, and I’m pretty sure his Twitter “persona” has become the real one.
February 13th, 2011 at 6:19 PM
He’s become a hack, and I’m pretty sure his Twitter “persona” has become the real one.
He was one of the inspirations for my “famous people” tweet earlier today
February 13th, 2011 at 6:26 PM
Ahem……you jump the shark on a motorcycle. So technically, you’re both wrong.
February 13th, 2011 at 6:35 PM
He was one of the inspirations for my “famous people” tweet earlier today
I saw that and thought it be correct.
February 13th, 2011 at 6:42 PM
water skis duh
February 13th, 2011 at 6:45 PM
Whitlock says the dumbest shit on twitter and then gets mad because people tell him he is a moron.Dont say dumb shit and you wont be called a moron. It’s that simple