Nick Saban Tries and Fails To Defend Oversigning at Alabama
Nick Saban defended his practice of oversigning every year and culling underperforming upper classmen with some ingenious circular logic. We can’t criticize how Saban dispenses scholarships because Alabama won’t release that information. Alabama won’t release that information, because Saban doesn’t want us to know how he dispenses scholarships. Brilliant.
Saban claims he has never dismissed a player from the program unjustly.
Any player that has left this program prematurely has created his own exit route. He’s created his own conditions for leaving, if that makes sense. Whether they are academic in terms of not doing what he needed to do academically, whether it is some violation of team or school policy, some of those things we are not allowed to talk about.
Nick Saban just has the remarkable foresight to know exactly how many players will “create their own exit route” and plan accordingly. We have to take his word for it, since he’s “not allowed to talk about” why a student-athlete was dismissed from the team, even if that disappointing four-star recruit “violated team rules” by being two minutes late for a meeting.
Stewart Mandel points out Alabama has had 12 players leave the program with medical hardships in Saban’s four years at the school. Ohio State has had 4 players with medical hardships, during Jim Tressel’s 10 years. There are bound to be more irreparable injuries when collisions occur at SEC speed.
Saban’s actions may be immoral, but they don’t pay him the big bucks to be moral. He’s paid to win the SEC and the national title every season. His mission is to field the best possible team within the rules. However unsavory his roster culling practices are, they are within the rules.
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February 7th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
Well, if we are going to talk about logical arguments, this isn’t one.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Is it against the rules? No? It is called competitive advantage. Morally dubious, ethically ok. Just win.
/hates Saban.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
That’s high-quality sarcasm right there. Nicely done.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Blah blah blah.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Oversigning sucks. But, until the NCAA steps in and does something about it nothing will change.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
This is a stretch, but what’s the difference between pulling a kids athletic scholly for underperformance and pulling a kids academic scholly for falling below a 3.0?
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 PM
This right here. My team’s don’t do it (I’m beginning to think they should) and I wish it weren’t allowed, but it is. So until the rule changes, get over it.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 PM
You can’t pull a scholarship for a dude sucking balls.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
The kid knows ahead of time the requirements for keeping a scholly. Football is more subjective.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
ludicrous speed > SEC speed
February 7th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
You can’t pull a scholarship for a dude sucking balls.
Yes you can. You just have to call it something else.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:00 PM
what’s a good hoops bet? got some SB winnings calling a brotha
February 7th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
He also knows the starting lineup is a subjective decision made by the coach. So is the two-deep. So is the practice squad. And so on.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
Your reason has to be somewhat valid, or the kid can appeal.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
Your reason has to be somewhat valid, or the kid can appeal.
Which 5 or so of those kids did. 3 had their scholarships reinstated but only for one additional year.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
What if the coach says you have to average X number of tackles in a season or risk jeopardizing your scholarship.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:06 PM
then hey, you signed up to play SEC football. if you wanted your scholarship to mean something, you’d have gone to another school.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:09 PM
But, until the NCAA steps in and does something about it nothing will change.
Never happen. NCAA is too afraid of killing the goose that lays golden eggs since all their other sports eat golden egg omelets to get by.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:09 PM
It does mean something. The only reason you’re getting it is to play football. So play football. Of course, that sounds harsh but my point was that having a football standard isn’t that much different than having a grade point average, which the football players also have to maintain in order to keep their free ride, and we all know many of them don’t give a shit about their degree.
In a perfect world, you could major in football just like you can major in music theory.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
It does mean something. The only reason you’re getting it is to play football. So play football. Of course, that sounds harsh but my point was that having a football standard isn’t that much different than having a grade point average, which the football players also have to maintain in order to keep their free ride, and we all know many of them don’t give a shit about their degree.
True, but let’s not pretend that the NCAA minimums are all that difficult. Especially given the level of academic support most FBS schools have, players have to actively try by not going to class among other things, in order to not meet the minimum.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
ritty…totally agree on the football major, and it’s something ive said a bunch. i was just getting in a little barb at the SEC, that’s all.
but to get cut for performance reasons is shady as shit…if it’s based on tackles or PT or whatever, it’s up to the coach to actually get the player on the field.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Like having your agent nominate you for every other coaching vacancy in America.
/hey-o
//He left LSU on CHRISTMAS DAY
February 7th, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Ritty Rich Sports Academy
February 7th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
As long as the SEC is full of glorified jucos paying at a much higher level than the rest of the nation, this unethical practice isn’t going anywhere.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:16 PM
Again, when there is a universally accepted “standard” for people to live up to then there isn’t a problem with oversigning. Till that happens though…this is where ethics come into play. GPA is generally accepted as the measure of academic excellence. If a kid knows beforehand what the football expectations are and he doesn’t perform then keep on oversigning.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
I talked about this earlier. More and more of these divas wait to sign until after Signing Day. Saban can’t hold a scholly for the 5-star because if he doesn’t sign, he has to eat it (like Kiffin did to LSU when he got LSU verbal commit Janzen Jackson to sign with Tennessee the day after signing day). So he has to sign the three-star to hedge his bet. Make everybody sign the same day and you may get less of this.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
Yup. Winning covers all sorts of blemishes.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
Genius.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
That wouldn’t stop them from oversigning.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:21 PM
Happened with Auburn this year. We signed 24 and would have signed 25 but we waited on Cyrus and he bailed. Told Marcus Roberson (4 star recruit who signed with Florida) that we didn’t have room.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:22 PM
That Cyrus K. shit was hilarious and sad. Why did he give Aub a verbal and then back out? What made him say Auburn in the first place?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:22 PM
Make everybody sign the same day and you may get less of this.
That wouldn’t stop them from oversigning.
How about limiting the number of scholarships handed out each year? Say that only 25 players can earn a scholarship and be on the football team.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
Yes. Reminds me of Evangel High School in Shreveport, La. But the notion of it seems laughable. Rightfully so. And yet we don’t mock a music major? Spencer knows what I’m talking about.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
What if you have 7 juniors leave to go along with 22 seniors? Why should you get punished for having badasses on the team?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
bobby lowder had his aunt hostage after his older bro went to bama. cyrus just realized it was too late and she had lived a long life…saban assured him of this.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
I disagree.
If you’re the 3rd-best DT in your team’s signing class and you hear that Jadeveon Clowney’s signing that day too, you have time to reconsider.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Evangel High School in Shreveport, La.
Booty Prep?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
The AU side (rumors) were that Cyrus really wanted to go to Auburn but the rest of the family wanted him at Bama. Nobody knew he was going to say Auburn on ESPNU because he figured that was the only way he’d actually get to go to Auburn. Didn’t work out. They talked him out of it. Who knows if there is any weight to that. Seems at least plausible.
Also, somebody made an anonymous $500,000 donation to his high school a couple of weeks ago. Seems fishy especially since it was made under the condition the $$$ went to athletic facilities at the school. Roll Tide Roll.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
It may cut back the oversigning to +7 instead of +9, but it won’t stop the practice from happening.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
Indeed. I’m not positive, but I think they used to not be accredited so those kids would have to take their GED when they “graduated.”
February 7th, 2011 at 5:27 PM
/ sportsbybrooks
February 7th, 2011 at 5:28 PM
kinda like what auburn did in order to get christan westerman from texas?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:29 PM
I couldn’t read this without laughing thinking about you defending $cam Newton as fiercely as you did.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:35 PM
is there a blog that instead of being cynical about all this rule-stretching actually just says fuck it and glorifies it, celebrates ingenuity, congratulates evil creativity?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:36 PM
Yeah, that was kind of the joke with the RTR comment. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Booty Prep?
Indeed. I’m not positive, but I think they used to not be accredited so those kids would have to take their GED when they “graduated.”
the lord works in mysterious ways….neither booty had much success after preps. josh i actuaally covered in minor league ball. he rolled into town with a mitsubishi something or other (hot for the mid90s) and the plate read 5THPCK. he set the franchise record for strikeouts and did the really smart trick of breaking the heart of the Marlins roving hitting instructor
February 7th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
I think the Bootys or one of the other families split from Evangel and created another Jesus Football Academy to compete with them in Shreveport. It’s called Calvary Baptist.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:42 PM
somebody made an anonymous $500,000 donation to his high school a couple of weeks ago
Damn. That OL is worth 2.5x Cam Newton?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
I should clarify that… except defendants in any sort of trial. Pick me for your jury. I dare you.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:45 PM
is there a blog that instead of being cynical about all this rule-stretching actually just says fuck it and glorifies it, celebrates ingenuity, congratulates evil creativity?
Kind of like my idea that just getting rid of all these rules pertaining to boosters would be easier and help more kids than the way we have it now? Just let the boosters pay the players in the open. Who really cares?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:53 PM
stark, there is a freedom to not pretending/covering up. i wish the ncaa would set itself free
February 9th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
First of all, you can get cut fot under performance. Players have to hold up their end. Saban announced on ESPN that scholarships are for 1 year at Alabama. So the players know this. If you don’t develope you get cut that is the deal. You don’t have to accept the scholarship. You have the option of spending the time in the gym. Saban at least medicals them or allows them to transfer if they can’t cut it. He could just cut them. If Saban doen’t win he gets cut. AS IT SHOULD BE. That is why girls play softball, because life in football isn’t fair.