Milton Bradley Arrested For Threatening Woman With Bodily Harm, Mariners Probably Still Stuck With Him
Arrested: Perpetual miscreant Milton Bradley was arrested yesterday in Los Angeles and faces felony charges of threatening a woman with bodily harm. Because the MLBPA will go to war if the Mariners dare suggest threatening a woman with bodily harm violates the “standards of good citizenship” clause in his contract, the M’s may have to eat his remaining $12 million. Decline after a career year, injuries and personal problems: all clearly predictable when Jim Hendry signed that stupid contract. [LA Times]
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January 19th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
He’ll always have the family board game business to fall back on.
/obligatory.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
has anyone in the past 50 years ever been such a goof, and so well paid
ryan leaf?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Mousetrap
January 19th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Maybe they can just decide how much he will still get from the team over a good game of Monopoly.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Paid once, and not as handsomely and as consistently as this asshole.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Good riddance you disgrace to humanity.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
I hope this isn’t sarcasm. Hendry=ruh-tard
January 19th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
ok, jersey, the question remains.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Paid once, and not as handsomely and as consistently as this asshole.
Leaf has also been a pretty big fuck-up in his post football life as well. I’m not saying that I don’t think Bradley can match him, but that remains to be seen.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
has anyone in the past 50 years ever been such a goof, and so well paid
ryan leaf?
Paid once, and not as handsomely and as consistently as this asshole.
This asshole was occasionally very good at hitting a baseball.
Decline after a career year, injuries and personal problems: all clearly predictable when Jim Hendry signed that stupid contract.
also true.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Hey SC, I tried asking this earlier. Cubs or White Sox?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
bradley was a good player. shame.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
Sean Avery? And whats his name, played for the Indians… Albert Belle. Didnt he refuse to retire even though he had a career ending injury so he can collect the last few years on his deal?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
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Hey SC, I tried asking this earlier. Cubs or White Sox?
It can be both with SC.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
sc, i missed it if you answered before: how did you score yer goal? scramble, deflection, slapper, wrister?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Hey SC, I tried asking this earlier. Cubs or White Sox?
Derek Jeter.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Bradley is awesome at hitting the baseball. But his talent/asshole/whiny bitch ratio has never been good enough having him around.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
albert belle used to keep the clubhouse at 60 degrees because he liked it cold. one day, i think it was kenny lofton, went and turned up the heat so albert walks over to the thermostat, resets it and bashes it repeatedly with a bat.
dude was grade A insane.
dude was grade A awesome at hitting.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Adam Sandler
January 19th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
2008 led the AL in OPS. That’s worthwhile no matter your whiny bitch level.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
All of this. And I was big fan of his. I always wished the Tigers would sign him.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Was it him also who would only take interview requests through his website, but did not bother listing his e-mail address on it?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
I’ve threatened women with bodily harm before. I’ll probably do it again. As long as I never hit a woman, I’m cool with that.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
More powerful labor union?
The MLBPA or the Teacher’s Unions?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Sean Avery?
Not a fair comparison, for all Avery’s antics on the ice he’s never had off-ice issues (with the exception of some ‘sloppy seconds’ and ‘typical french visor wearing players’ comments).
January 19th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
has anyone in the past 50 years ever been such a goof, and so well paid
Adam Sandler
I cannot recommend his stand up bit from like 1987 where he goes on and on about a mini Elvis that lives in his fridge and steals his lettuce enough.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
albert belle used to keep the clubhouse at 60 degrees because he liked it cold. one day, i think it was kenny lofton, went and turned up the heat so albert walks over to the thermostat, resets it and bashes it repeatedly with a bat.
dude was grade A insane.
dude was grade A awesome at hitting.
He also told Hannah Storm that if she ever stopped wearing age inappropriate outfits on TV, he would hunt her down.
/how else to explain her wardrobe?
//team Storm.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Avery probably makes double or triple of the league minimum an MLB player gets paid.
Derek Jeter probably tips out the clubhouse guys that much at the end of the year.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Got someone suspended for trying to steal back his corked bat too. Mission Impossible style, crawling through the vents IIRC…
January 19th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
No surprise that this was a Duffy post.
Pleas let this be the end of Milton in the MLB.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
/second’d
January 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
7 teams in 8 years. And after hitting leading the league in OPS, they let him walk to another team.
Texas got better without him each year after that. Now they might have still been good with him on the team, but you can’t ignore them trending up while he trended down.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
grade A steroids will do that to a person
January 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
Yup, Joey signed a multi-year 65m deal with the Orioles, playing only a couple of them, and retiring with the remaining years left (guaranteed) due to a degenerative
personalityhip. IIRC, the best part was, for the duration, Baltimore had to keep him on their active roster because of their insurance policy.In his free time, Joey enjoys no longer drinking, running down trick or treaters, stalking women, and weighing in on the state of Cleveland baseball.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
If you go after Elisha Cuthbert that puts you pretty high up on my list
January 19th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Got someone suspended for trying to steal back his corked bat too. Mission Impossible style, crawling through the vents IIRC…
That was Jason Grimsley. He crawled through the vents to steal the bat from the umpire’s locker room.
Grimsley had to later in his career embarrassingly admit that he took steroids and yet was still a shitty pitcher.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Texas got better without him each year after that. Now they might have still been good with him on the team, but you can’t ignore them trending up while he trended down.
The cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy can be expressed as follows:
1.A occurs in correlation with B.
2.Therefore, A causes B.
In this type of logical fallacy, one makes a premature conclusion about causality after observing only a correlation between two or more factors. Generally, if one factor (A) is observed to only be correlated with another factor (B), it is sometimes taken for granted that A is causing B even when no evidence supports it. This is a logical fallacy because there are at least five possibilities:
1.A may be the cause of B.
2.B may be the cause of A.
3.some unknown third factor C may actually be the cause of both A and B.
4.there may be a combination of the above three relationships. For example, B may be the cause of A at the same time as A is the cause of B (contradicting that the only relationship between A and B is that A causes B). This describes a self-reinforcing system.
5.the “relationship” is a coincidence or so complex or indirect that it is more effectively called a coincidence (i.e. two events occurring at the same time that have no direct relationship to each other besides the fact that they are occurring at the same time). A larger sample size helps to reduce the chance of a coincidence, unless there is a systematic error in the experiment.
In other words, there can be no conclusion made regarding the existence or the direction of a cause and effect relationship only from the fact that A and B are correlated. Determining whether there is an actual cause and effect relationship requires further investigation, even when the relationship between A and B is statistically significant, a large effect size is observed, or a large part of the variance is explained
January 19th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
This is one of the best stories in the history of our fine nation. It is so fucking awesome.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Avery probably makes double or triple of the league minimum an MLB player gets paid.
Avery makes $3.9M per season.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
I cannot recommend his stand up bit from like 1987 where he goes on and on about a mini Elvis that lives in his fridge and steals his lettuce enough.
He was doing bits on “Remote Control” back then. Didn’t ruin that show. Tried.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Alberts Belle’s “controversy” section is as long as his “career” section on Wikipedia.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Really? Yikes. No wonder the Rangers suck. (oh, and speaking of the Rangers, I saw where they just lost Dubinsky for 3 weeks).
January 19th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Albert Belle. Didnt he refuse to retire even though he had a career ending injury so he can collect the last few years on his deal?
I think it was actually the fault here falls on the way the contract is written. Which is hilarious for a team owned by a multi-billionaire litigator to get fucked over by a poorly worded contract. My poor, beloved O’s. Fuck Angelos, fuck Joey Belle, and fuck Milton Bradley
January 19th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
So he only makes 1/2 the mlb minimum then.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Just delete this: it was actually from comment 43. Tim Ryan, a little help here?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
When Jacob’s Field first opened, there were giant paintings of players hung around the stadium. Albert Belle’s was nothing but an intense as fuck side view of his eyes staring at a pitch. It’s my unobtainium collectible. I’d kill for even a photo of it.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Really? Yikes. No wonder the Rangers suck. (oh, and speaking of the Rangers, I saw where they just lost Dubinsky for 3 weeks).
Blame Dallas they signed the contract, the Rangers got him on re-entry waivers from the Stars (they split the cap hit 50/50).
Apparently a stress fracture in his leg, big loss for the Rangers.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Tagooch, the new and improved: long, lame and unfunny?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Texas got better without him each year after that. Now they might have still been good with him on the team, but you can’t ignore them trending up while he trended down.
Yes you can ignore that. Because that would the logical thing to do.
You need to re-watch the Simpsons with the Bear Patrol in it. That would visually illustrate the logical fallacy you just utilized.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
Uh, or just read what Gooch wrote.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:55 PM
If I had to guess, that was a Dirt comment. Am I right, TST?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:55 PM
He moves the meter, gotta pay primo for a guy like that.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:56 PM
How could we forget his winging a ball into the stands, hitting a guy who invited the former “Joey the Drinker” to a kegger?
/Rob Dibble approves.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:56 PM
So he only makes 1/2 the mlb minimum then.
Isn’t MLB average $3M now?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:56 PM
TST: So lets say that him leaving, Texas doing better and Bradley doing worse have nothing to do with each other, which is a reasonable and rationable point. They still did better when he wasn’t there after he left. That isn’t false. His talent wasn’t worth him being there… or they would have paid for him to stay.
No one is arguing the merits of Milton Bradley the baseball player. The argument is when is his talent worth his trouble. Teams not trying their damnedest to keep him indicates that it wasn’t.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:57 PM
The cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy can be expressed as follows:
1.A occurs in correlation with B.
2.Therefore, A causes B.
In this type of logical fallacy, one makes a premature conclusion about causality after observing only a correlation between two or more factors. Generally, if one factor (A) is observed to only be correlated with another factor (B), it is sometimes taken for granted that A is causing B even when no evidence supports it. This is a logical fallacy because there are at least five possibilities:
1.A may be the cause of B.
2.B may be the cause of A.
3.some unknown third factor C may actually be the cause of both A and B.
4.there may be a combination of the above three relationships. For example, B may be the cause of A at the same time as A is the cause of B (contradicting that the only relationship between A and B is that A causes B). This describes a self-reinforcing system.
5.the “relationship” is a coincidence or so complex or indirect that it is more effectively called a coincidence (i.e. two events occurring at the same time that have no direct relationship to each other besides the fact that they are occurring at the same time). A larger sample size helps to reduce the chance of a coincidence, unless there is a systematic error in the experiment.
In other words, there can be no conclusion made regarding the existence or the direction of a cause and effect relationship only from the fact that A and B are correlated. Determining whether there is an actual cause and effect relationship requires further investigation, even when the relationship between A and B is statistically significant, a large effect size is observed, or a large part of the variance is explained
why did you do that?
/stopped at cum
January 19th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
I wasn’t trying to argue that Milton’s departure was helped Texas improve. If you go back and read what I was trying to argue, my point was that Milton’s talent wasn’t necessary for Texas to have success.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
I wasn’t trying to argue that Milton’s departure was helped Texas improve. If you go back and read what I was trying to argue, my point was that Milton’s talent wasn’t necessary for Texas to have success.
I don’t think you can argue that conclusively either.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:01 PM
People didn’t care for my referencing this in the wake of the Department of Homeland Security ramping itself up
January 19th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
So the answer me this: If Milton’s talent was so great that a team, that wanted to win and could use Milton’s talent to win, that it outweighed whatever personal issues he had, why has he had such a tough time finding a team to stick with?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:02 PM
I think what he’s trying to say is that Josh Hamilton is a homo.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
my point was that Milton’s talent wasn’t necessary for Texas to have success.
I don’t think you can argue that conclusively either.
Are you sure about that?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
I think what he’s trying to say is that Josh Hamilton is a homo.
Or a dinosaur.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
But Carl Everett said dinosaurs never existed.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:05 PM
Are you sure about that?
If I was sure about it I would say “I’m certain you cannot conclusively argue that”.
I will say that there is more logical grounding for trying to prove it, but arguing whether Bradley was “necessary for Texas’s success” or not is still somewhat subjective.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:05 PM
I think what he’s trying to say is that Josh Hamilton is a homo.
Didn’t he go to rehab for that? Or was it something else?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:08 PM
I think you’re confusing “They got better because they didn’t have Bradley” with “They didn’t need Bradley to be successful”
The first part is tough to prove. The second part actually has some credence to lean on. Because they won more games after he left than they did when he was there. Maybe there is no correlation between the two, but Milton Bradley was on the team for a season and they were under .500. The two seasons after, they were for both seasons.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:09 PM
they were over for both seasons*
January 19th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
I think you’re confusing “They got better because they didn’t have Bradley” with “They didn’t need Bradley to be successful”
No I understand the distinction you are making. The former assertion is a logical fallacy. The latter is not one necessarily and may well be provable.
But this:
Because they won more games after he left than they did when he was there.
is not the way to prove it.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
has anyone in the past 50 years ever been such a goof, and so well paid
Different sort of goof, Dennis Rodman.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:11 PM
I think what he’s trying to say is that Josh Hamilton is a homo
laughter right here
January 19th, 2011 at 5:13 PM
Well then. How would you measure success then? Because I would thing wins is a good measurable for success. If there is something else I don’t know about, enlighten me, I’m not afraid to learn. Again, this isn’t a knock on individual production. This is a case in the ability to generate results no matter what the individual production may or may not be.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
think*
January 19th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Different sort of goof, Dennis Rodman.
way different. not harmful, didn;t move around, champion
January 19th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Well then. How would you measure success then? Because I would thing wins is a good measurable for success. If there is something else I don’t know about, enlighten me, I’m not afraid to learn. Again, this isn’t a knock on individual production. This is a case in the ability to generate results no matter what the individual production may or may not be.
Wins are a fantastic way of measuring TEAM success. But if you wanted to try to identify what effect Bradley had on a team’s wins from year to year, you might try using WARP (Wins Above Replace Player). That gives a relatively nice approximation of how much more valuable Bradley was to Texas ahead of some Joe Schmo journeyman. Deputizing that into your argument would help you greatly.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
And of course ‘Replace’ should have read ‘Replacement’.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:20 PM
and anyway, how do you prove ‘threatening with bodily harm’ without a mel gibson voicemail collection?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
ms621: I know WAR. I value WAR. But I do think you;re missing my point even though you alluded to it:
Would they have been more successful or just as successful the following seasons with Bradley? Well actually, no. His WAR was .5 for 2009 and -.1 for 2010. But that is neither here nor their. I said the team had success without Bradley. They were more successful in 2009 than 2008. And more successful in 2010 than 2009.
You think I’m trying to attribute wins gained or loss to Bradley. I’m not. I’m saying, and what I’ve said all thread, is that Texas thought they didn’t need Bradley’s talents to be successful. And if you look at wins to indicate team success, they were right.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
gahddamnit, their=there
January 19th, 2011 at 5:32 PM
Jersey, most people call it WAR these days, but I learned it as WARP. Same thing though.
Would they have been more successful or just as successful the following seasons with Bradley? Well actually, no. His WAR was .5 for 2009 and -.1 for 2010. But that is neither here nor their. I said the team had success without Bradley. They were more successful in 2009 than 2008. And more successful in 2010 than 2009.
You think I’m trying to attribute wins gained or loss to Bradley. I’m not. I’m saying, and what I’ve said all thread, is that Texas thought they didn’t need Bradley’s talents to be successful. And if you look at wins to indicate team success, they were right.
Yes to the first paragraph. To the second…I guess do not see what you’re saying, because all of your comments seem to be about Texas’s success being greater after he left, with the implication that Bradley had something to do with that. You can make that argument using WAR (or WARP) as you did in the first paragraph.
As for what Texas thought about Bradley? You might be right. I haven’t heard Jon Daniels specifically address this in the past. But they were certainly not in a hurry to re-sign him or pick up his option.