Andrew Luck is Staying at Stanford and Not Going to the NFL (Sorry, Carolina)
All, College Football, NFL, NFL Draft January 6th. 2011, 2:35pm
Andrew Luck has decided to stay at Stanford, according to the San Jose Mercury News and ESPN’s Joe Schad. That sobbing you hear is coming from Carolina, which now probably turns to Missouri’s Blaine Gabbert (!) as the No. 1 pick, unless it wants to take a defensive player and hope to finish with the worst record again next year. Now the question becomes: Does this at all impact Jim Harbaugh? Could he possibly get Stanford to pay $5-6 million a year to keep him? Harbaugh made around $3 million this year. Luck’s taking a major risk returning to school, because in recent years, that’s hurt a few QBs (see Matt Leinart and Jake Locker). Luck’s decision is an absolute shocker.
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January 6th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Haha, poor Panthers.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Panthers are fucked.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Does this mean Harbaugh is back?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Yes! I’ve been saying it for two weeks!
January 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Wow. Good for him. If, as it should, a rookie wage scale is implemented, the best he misses out on is a slotted salary and being one year closer to free agency.
/i’d go
January 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Jevan Snead.
Yeah, it’s a shocker. Not sure how I feel about it. Does that mean Mallet goes before 7? Fuck, we are going to get stuck with some shitbag in the first round.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Luck’s decision is an absolute shocker.
/Jarring
January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Odd decision given that there will probably be a rookie salary cap when he comes out.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
WHAT A FUCKING MORON.
He just lit 50 million dollars on fire…even if he’s the #1 pick next year, the rookie scale will be killer.
Fuck him, and fuck his parents and Harbaugh
January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
I’m in Carolina and I feel fucking great!
January 6th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
how could you publish this? gabbert as potential no. 1? pure nonsense. where’d you pull that from?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
I told y’all Cam would get drafted higher than Luck this year.
/assuming he comes out
January 6th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Carolina, enjoy another year of this.
/fondly reminisces about Penn State absolutely destroying him
January 6th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
This strengthens the case for Pryor leaving. I know, I know he is an imbecilic armpunter. But if he runs a sub 4.4 40, someone will take him earlier than expected.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
He would have a deal under the wage scale this year. He wants to graduate and he wants another year in college. Can’t blame anyone for that. Good for him.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
From what I’ve heard, the prevailing thought is that the rookie scale wouldn’t kick in this coming year, but in 2012. If that’s true, this is the year to come out.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
the rookie scale will be killer.
The rookie scale is going into effect for the guys declaring right now.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Dear Carolina,
Please take Cam Newton with the No. 1 overall pick.
Signed,
NFC South
January 6th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
You would think that there will be no football until a rookie scale is in place.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I’ve read a bunch of stuff that points to the players getting drafted this year being affected by the scale as no one will sign a draftee until the new CBA is in place.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Seems to me like the best way to insure the worst record again next year would be to take Gabbert.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
luck’s family is rich, the fuck does he care about money?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Carolina had no intention of drafting Luck, and there is a ZERO percent chance they draft Gabbert. I would wager my house on that.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I’m a Bucs fan in Carolina, as soon as I saw this, the mocking text messages to my Panthers friends went out.. they all put so much hope in Luck coming out
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Interesting move, can’t fault a guy for wanting to finish his degree. Too often we rail at guys/programs that don’t graduate players.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Has there been an assertion one way or the other whether a rookie wage scale would make it in this year?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
What I don’t understand is him saying he’s really concerned about getting his degree. Architecture degrees can be obtained forever, success in the NFL has a much smaller window. It isn’t logical that he stays. It’s for some other reason.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Carolina is taking Bowers now…period.
No other QB is worth the #1 pick.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Gabbo > Some Guy. Some Guy Named Gabbo > Blaine Gabbert
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
If Harbaugh comes back, Stanford is going to be a preseason top 5 in most polls, though losing 3 5th-year seniors on the O-line would worry me if I were a Cardinal fan.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
i mean, i know this is all baseless speculation and everything but at the same time, in what universe is gabbert a potential no. 1 pick? in what universe would carolina want to tank a season before it starts?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Remember when we started having the avalanche of Harbaugh posts and you ridiculed somebody for writing that Luck would stay in an article, TBL? In that first post I enumerated all the reasons i expected Luck to stay. I win! I win! I’m the Draft King not that guy with the site/handle called Draft King!
January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Not shocked one bit. After last season he was on KNBR (local sports station in the bay area) and talking with Bob Fitzgerald about how there’s a LONG track record for QBs that leave college early not doing well in the NFL. He sounded pretty adamant then that he was going to stay through his senior year.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
I wonder if he is gay.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
exactly my thought.
Also, Mallett is soooo fucking gone now.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
They would have thought long and hard about it…fanbase would have screamed bloody murder if they passed on him.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
GABBERT One????????
YOU NUTS!
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
True.
Let me guess. The guy is about to light up college ball for another year, get his degree and be the BMOC at Stanford. I would kill for another year at UGA and I was just a no-name student. I can’t imagine what another year would be like as the best player in college football.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Well at least this resolves my principle fear, NFC South was already rugged enough as it is.. A division with Brees,Ryan,Freeman & Luck in in would of just been over kill
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Spencer, I’m not high on Gabbert, but McShay has him as the #1 QB (now that Luck isn’t in the mix) and Carolina really needs a QB. Not sure about the draft gurus.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Yep. That is number 1 with a bullet.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Did Ryan Mallett die? That’s the only reason I can think of that Gabbert would be drafted ahead of him.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Blaine Gabbert just SOUNDS like a bust. He can’t possibly be a good player with that name. Its too Heath Shuler-y.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Yes. Syphilis.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Nah, I bet somebody Peyton Manning in 1997′s him.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Gabbert may not be number one in the draft, but he is number one in our hearts.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
If they stick with their current QB situation there is no reason to think they may not be first overall again next year.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Boom. He most certainly is. It is now a three-man race among Gabbert, Newton and Mallett.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
He gets it.
I’ll buy a game worn Jimmy Claussen jersey if Gabbert goes #1 to the Panthers.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Oh, I agree with that, but ultimately I think they wouldn’t have drafted him, and all the sources closest to the situation felt the same way.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
how could you publish this? gabbert as potential no. 1? pure nonsense. where’d you pull that from?
Really. Don’t think its a rule you have to draft a QB #1. Replace Peppers.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
He should call Brian Sipe.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
i love this…”carolina needs a QB.”
has our NOWNOWNOWNOW society really gotten to this point? that based on a handful of appearances, a highly touted rookie that can make every throw that was thrown into a situation with no WR’s and banged up RB’s is worthless?
QB’s take time to develop, have some fucking patience.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
New England will trade Carolina back their second round pick for Steve Smith.
/not a real rumor
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
RE: the “Novelty” in Ty NC ticket post. This made sense to me. Both schools have never been in a NC game before and there is a chance neither makes it back. So this might be a one in a lifetime shot for their fanbase. So tickets would be at a premium because there would be no “lets wait until we are in a championship game closer to home or when we have more money” attitude.
So I see where the novelty comes up in terms of tickets prices. Sorry if this has already been addressed.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
+ 1, sir.
I’d kill the guy in the next office over for a shot to be an undergrad again, if only for a year.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Unless you are a left-handed Mexican heartthrob.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
pfftt…please. everybody knows
what
what
what
J-claus in the hizzy.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
I could start a rumor if you want.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
Boom. He most certainly is. It is now a three-man race among Gabbert, Newton and Mallett
That’s not what my draft gurus say. And they’re called drafy gurus for a reason.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:48 PM
I wish you could see my face right now.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
my brain is slightly fried today, but I can’t for the life of me translate this. help?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
EVERY SINGLE DRAFT GURU says this like it’s gospel. it’s the stupidest fucking thing ever.
are the rams better because of bradford? yes. are they also better becaue chris long, a guy people were calling a bust, had an absolutely monster season? also yes.
there are other impact players other than QB. especially when all the QB’s in this draft are sketchy.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
I think I heard Todd McShay on the radio say that he is the best after Luck yesterday. Take if for what you want.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
I have a feeling those names are going to read like Palmer, Leftwich and Boller (from the ’03 draft) several years from now.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Did you see Mallett against OSU? He looked fucking terrible when he got any pressure. His slow release is also going to scare some teams. I’m not saying Gabbert will be better as Pelini made Gabbert his bitch, but Gabbert has a very strong arm and can run. Mallet only has one of those. Of course Mallett plays in a big-boy offense, not that faggy Mizzou spread, so that helps him. Neither will be the first pick though. Bowers is too good to pass up.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Not unlike Peyton returning.
Luck will be the odds on favorite to win the Heisman, be the #1 pick (for a MUCH better franchise), and will likely be on a top-5 team again.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
What could come into play for Carolina is the main reason I want a rookie scale: Trading down and the return of a fun-to-watch draft. With the $50m contracts, nobody in their right minds wants a top 5 pick. With a scale, and the multi-day drafts, it should be much more fun to watch.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
This x1000. I don’t know any judgments can be made about Clausen, given the shit show he was handed. Luck wouldn’t have fared any better.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
my beef with sanchez has always been that he didn’t play enough in college. clausen had twice as many starts as sanchez in only 3 years.
it takes time to be a QB in the NFL, and sanchez hasn’t had enough time at the college level. he shouldn’t be playing, but he plays for a retarded organization so…
January 6th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Highly touted by some, shat upon by genius talent evaluators such as myself.
/Pats self on back
January 6th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
McShay had Locker #1 a few months ago. The guy was a great college QB…I wouldn’t take him. He’s not a great pro prospect in my opinion.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Can’t possibly be as good as the Miley Cyrus/strip club rumor.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
If there is no 2011 NFL season, does the draft order just carry-over?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Boom. He most certainly is. It is now a three-man race among Gabbert, Newton and Mallett.
I have a feeling those names are going to read like Palmer, Leftwich and Boller (from the ’03 draft) several years from now.
Damn. Gabbert’s gonna be a great quarterback until a dirty hit ruins him forever?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Remember when Matt Leinart went back and eveybody was saying how great it was since he was taking a dance class with his girlfriend. Then he knocked her up, became a douchebag, dumped her and his draft stock slid?
Good times.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Really? Auburn was undefeated in 2004, 1993, came real close to National Title shots in 1988, 1994, among others. I don’t buy it. I think he said novelty because it’s a championship without a playoff. That or all of his Michigan posts have him thinking it’s whatever year Michigan was relevant again.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Of course football society has reached this point. See Smith, Alex
January 6th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
i’ll take it that every NFL scout thinks mcshay is a joke and laugh that someone takes that spiky haired fraud seriously.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
I’m still making the same face.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Hopefully this means the Vikings will have a chance at him next year!
I respect the fact that he is staying on. Maybe he is smart to do this. Lockout could happen and instead of being able to hone his skills another year he would be stuck doing nothing for a year.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
How do you figure that? The Lions, Browns and Raiders are almost always in the running for the #1 overall pick.
I agree about the patience part and trying your hand with Clausen next year, but by all accounts Luck seems like a guy who transcended shitshows, so to speak, and start to turn them into not-so-shittyshows.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Not trying to be a dick, but, it’s because he went to Notre Dame.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Yeah, I wrote that incorrectly. I bet someone Charles Woodson in 1997′s him? Does that help? Everyone obvious No. 1 player in the country comes back for another year, doesn’t win the Heisman.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
I wasn’t talking about going No. 1. I was talking about being the first QB taken. None of the three guys should be taken with the No. 1 overall pick. I’d take Bowers or Cheap Shot Artist Fairley over each of them.
/Fuck…now ATL has to deal with one of those studs for 10 years
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
or like the 06′ Young, Leinart, Cutler
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
If there is no 2011 NFL season, does the draft order just carry-over?
From what I understand, draft still happens. Maybe he is smart to stay in school.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Well to be fair the recent play of QB’s drafted in the last 3 years have really pushed this point even further lately
2008: Ryan/Flacco
2009: Stafford,Freeman/Sanchize
2010: Bradford/McCoy(early on)
Before I gett flamed killed, yes.. I understand how much a product Flacco&Sanchize early success was under their Defense and the most of those teams heavy run game but all 7 of those guys have without a doubt looked like Franchise QB’s for their Fan bases something that Clausen has yet to really do yet. Heck you could even throw in possibly the play of Webb if you wanted too.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
The Heisman is an afterthought when you are the No. 1 overall draft pick. Luck will be that next year assuming he stays healthy.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
I don’t think Andrew Luck and Leinart are a good comparison. I think Leinart would wet himself if he played for someone as intense as Jim Harbaugh.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Of course football society has reached this point. See Smith, Alex
He’s had five years.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Spencer, Claussen is an epic douche. This must be taken into consideration. Even his teammates hate him.
/”He aint at Notre Dame anymore”
January 6th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
so the heisman will be given to a CB instead?
Yawn.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
link?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
So you want to have a couple more years of watching him fail, too?
January 6th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
That is an excellent question, but there won’t be any missed time. Each side will huff and puff, but there is too much money on the line for them to miss games. A lockout will happen, but come Sept, the NFL will be ready to go.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
January 6th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
at one point in the season, flacco had more games of less than 200 yards throwing than he had games of 200+ yards throwing.
joe flacco is derek anderson with a good organization.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
That is an excellent question, but there won’t be any missed time. Each side will huff and puff, but there is too much money on the line for them to miss games. A lockout will happen, but come Sept, the NFL will be ready to go.
I can see them miss games, but not the season.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Good God, Stanford blows out a verrry mediocre VPISU team, and suddenly everybody ignores the fact that Oregon hung half a hundred on ‘em, and Harbaugh and Luck walk on water. What the hell? You run luck out there with next year’s version of the Carolina Panthers, and they’re still shitty. Even if Harbaugh is the head coach. They have no players.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
If I had the chance to go into an uncertain job market or stay in college where I’ve had the greatest time of my life so far, I choose college 100% of the time. Senior quarterback, engineer, all-but-assumed lock #1 pick in 2012? Please, dude is living the dream.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Well, I really couldn’t remember. Not that it has been that long ago, I just couldn’t pull a number.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Derek Anderson was drafted by the same organization as Flacco.
/Just sayin’
January 6th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
you know who else is a pretty big dbag? philip rivers, brett favre, mike vick, peyton manning…basically every QB in the NFL.
and so some teammate punching asshole doesn’t like the new QB. steve smith is a bitch.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
On the latest Simmons podcast with Trent Dilfer, Simmons speaks of hanging out with “someone in the know” and they ran into a quarterback who shall not be named at a party. “Someone in the know” promptly says, “That guy’s a loser.” I’d bet dollars to donuts it was Leinart.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Clayton thinks he is one of the top 10 QBs in the league, read it in an article he wrote the other day.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
The Lions won’t be picking QB. The Browns franchise with Holmgren is better than Carolina’s IMO, and Al Davis will be dead by the 2012 draft.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
I want Peter King fucking dead.
January 6th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Please, dude is living the dream.
What if a witch or something makes him ugly because of his vanity and then he has to learn to be loved for his inner beauty by Vanessa Hudgens? Sounds like this could happen.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Excuse me? Not saying the Panthers are the Patriots, but they certainly aren’t in the Raiders/Browns/Lions/Bengals class
January 6th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
You should just kick his dog.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
No you can’t
January 6th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Ummm…wrong. Stanford is recruiting very well and when you have a player like Luck (at QB, specifically) you can go a long way. Stanford beat Oregon last time they played them at home, and Stanford will be really good next year, too. They were also up big on Oregon in that game, so it was closer than the final score would indicate. They have good RBs and great TEs there, too. They are a legit team with Luck and Harbaugh. Cpt Comeback inherited a 1-11 team. They finished this year 12-1. That’s pretty badass.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
he really did, the the Hogs OL didn’t do a whole lot to help him out throughout the game.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I was refering to Gabbert
January 6th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
here’s the thing though…clayton is a hack.
did they have boldin and mason at that time?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I don’t know why it took so long to think of this, but I bet Clausen, in a quiet moment, cries himself to sleep about leaving early.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
You do realize they signed fucking Jake Delhome, right?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Not saying the Panthers are the Patriots, but they certainly aren’t in the Raiders/Browns/Lions/Bengals class
this should be fun.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
I know. I was talking about when he was first drafted. SF “had” to take a QB and that was that.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Stanford has had the best OL in the Pac-10 the last 2 years – not sure how many of them are coming back though.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
I think Stanford had a quite a few injuries before and during that Oregon game as well. Could be wrong though.
In any event, they have a ridiculously easy schedule next year coupled with a lofty preseason ranking and a title isn’t unfathomable.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Those guys all have a ridiculous work ethic, HOF skills, or a combination of the two. Plus they are leaders. Guys like playing for/with them.
Clausen does not fall into any of those categories.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
His dad is loaded and you go to Stanford for a education. It isnt Ohio State. Im not shocked.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
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I’m pretty sure at least 4 of 5 are Seniors.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:03 PM
I think they lose 3 which is always tough to replace in college. It’s really the only area where they lose players.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Of course football society has reached this point. See Smith, Alex
He’s had five years.
I know. I was talking about when he was first drafted. SF “had” to take a QB and that was that.
Ah. gotcha. Now I’ll fondly remember sad Aaron Rodgers.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:04 PM
It always seemed to me like Carolina was only interested in taking a QB at #1 because Luck is that kind of talent. Without him available at the top of the draft, I would think that they almost certainly go in another direction. They weren’t thinking QB until Luck became the consensus “best player in the draft”. It makes no sense for them to reach for the second best QB.
I do, however, think that Gabbert will end up being a decent NFL QB – he’s just shouldn’t be in the running for the #1 pick (or the top 10 in my opinion).
January 6th, 2011 at 3:05 PM
They lose their C, one OG and one OT. They also lose both starting WRs and their FB and they lose 4 starters from their defense.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
This kid is an idiot.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
husker was there any followup on that postgame punch of the GA player in the bowl game?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
So who goes first Newton or Gabbert?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Perhaps Carolina trades down and selects AJ Green.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
I think the fact that his girlfriend is a student at Stanford should not be overlooked.
/pussy power
January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Lions are on the up and up.
Feel free to replace the Lions with the bengals in the hierarchy of dogshit franchises.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:07 PM
I wouldn’t say the Panthers have no players, this is an an organization that less then a year ago went 8-8 with Delhommie as their QB. They already have strong offensive pieces.. A strong Running Game with Stewart&Goodson ( D.Will is most likely gone) a strong O-line that will return healthy, A veteran WR( Smith) and some possible young&upcoming WR
Assume Lock is as NFL ready as ppl think, Carolina would of been a great offensive situation for him to step into.. That D of their is still awful but a new coach& some changes would of helped. Not saying they are contending for a playoff spot but they wouldn’t been a cake walk either with growth for future.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
The hell does any of this have to do with anything I said (other than the Oregon game being closer than the score)? If Luck was drafted by the Panthers, and Harbaugh was brought in as the head coach, they would still be the fourth best team in that division, because there’s no talent there. I get that Luck, were he to come out this year, is a lock for the number one pick, and that Harbaugh is the hottest coaching prospect out there, but for everyone to act like either one would walk into an organization and turn them into world beaters overnight (especially given the list of likely organizations they would have joined) is beyond ridiculous. I saw this somewhere earlier, maybe it was here, or maybe on twitter, but this Harbaugh thing is starting to get a real Spurrier to the Redskins vibe.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
the panthers aren’t in the browns class…the browns beat em this year.
then again, panthers fans are delusional if they think their one flukey SB appearance makes them legit. that place has been mediocre their entire existence.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Yeah. He’s doing a real disservice to himself, graduating with a degree and all that. What a shame.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Meant Luck not Lock.. dang 2 QB’s who could of come out whose name is only 1 letter in between on the keyboard
January 6th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
The Panthers should trade their pick now.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
It’s stupid, but I’d guess the national title game is going to factor into that more than anything else.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
You could also look at it that they may of gone the right way, just made the wrong choice. Bought into all the anti Aaron Rodgers talk before the draft and took small hands instead.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
They were also up big on Oregon in that game, so it was closer than the final score would indicate.
I watched that game and, um, no it wasn’t. Oregon sucked for 20 minutes and then just went crazy. It actually looked like what Stanford did to VA Tech
January 6th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
My thoughts exactly.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
but seriously…luck? he’s fucking awesome.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
I’m still putting my $$$ on Cammy Juice going as the top QB. I fully expect him to kill at the combine
January 6th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
it’s funny that they drafted alex smith because of his athleticism when aaron rodgers looks far more athletic.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Lefty: I thought you were discounting how good Stanford is. I didn’t see anything about the coach and player joining up in CAR.
Very good question. If Bud Adams is drafting, it’ll be Newton. You can guarantee that. Gabbert is going to wow scouts. He will run a 4.6 40 and he can make every throw. Newton has to be thrilled though. He had no chance of unseating Luck, but he is now going against another spread guy, so that helps him.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
I wonder how much $$$ he may potentially loose by staying in school if the new CBA includes a rookie salary cap?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:12 PM
See: Young, Vince
January 6th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
The Panthers should trade their pick now.
Bo, without teams knowing the financial ramifications of the new CBA, they won’t find a taker.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
GB Aaron Rodgers >>>>>>>>> potential SF Aaron Rodgers
You think Aaron Rodgers sitting behind the old geezer in GB for 3 years added anything to his game? He would have gotten KILLED behind the O-lines SF has been tossing out there…
January 6th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
it won’t matter since his family is wealthy as shit already.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
The family’s loaded. Money is a non-issue. It’s Peyton Manning all over again.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Cam Newton #1 overall? Who needs a tight end that badly?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Better to be mediocre than absolutely awful like the Browns.
/NFC championship in 2nd season trumps anything the Browns have done in my lifetime
January 6th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
but this Harbaugh thing is starting to get a real Spurrier to the Redskins vibe.
mos def. every day the pressure and expectations increase on the wild-eyed one
January 6th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
I wonder how much $$$ he may potentially loose by staying in school
ifwhen the new CBA includes a rookie salary cap?My understanding is last year was the last time the Bradfords of the world were gettting paid like that anyway.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
You think Aaron Rodgers sitting behind the old geezer in GB for 3 years added anything to his game? He would have gotten KILLED behind the O-lines SF has been tossing out there…
The thing Dilfer said on the Simmons’ podcast that made the most sense (to me) was that being in the right place with the right coach makes all the difference in the world for a QB.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Best thing that ever happened to him in the long run…the Pack is Back
January 6th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Judging by 98% of the free agent decisions ever already being rich doesn’t make people choose to take less money.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Bo, without teams knowing the financial ramifications of the new CBA, they won’t find a taker
because they won;t be sure what it’s worth, right?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Judging by 98% of the free agent decisions ever already being rich doesn’t make people choose to take less money.
but it does make some sign and fade
January 6th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
what % of that 98% come from poor backgrounds?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
It’s a fascinating scenario. Personally, I’m an advocate of letting the guy sit on the bench and watch for at least a year before playing (Rivers, Romo, Rodgers, etc) than letting the guy play to see if he’s an immediate difference maker.
Guys like Marino, Bradford, even Roethlisberger are an exception rather than the rule. For every one of those guys, there are 25 Akili Smiths and Tim Couches. If you’re throwing a guy in there with hardly any talent around him, you have to trust that he has the makeup to withstand all the losing and ass-kickings, and most guys just don’t. It’s hard to say whether Rodgers would’ve overcome that.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
what % of that 98% come from poor backgrounds?
6.8%
January 6th, 2011 at 3:20 PM
This is true. Especially now that we know Rodgers has an Olerud skull and will be out of the NFL in 2 years.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
And if Rodgers would’ve went to SF, I wonder who the QB in Green Bay would be right now? Jake Delhomme?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
may i share a joke? it’s from my english mom of all people, and my wife is irish. they don;t get along, but i don;t think this has anything to do with that
“As good as this
bar is,” said the Scotsman, “I still prefer the pubs back home. In
Glasgow, there’s a wee place called McTavish’s. The landlord goes out of
his way for the locals. When you buy four drinks, he’ll buy the fifth
drink.”
“Well, Angus,” said the Englishman,
“At my local in London, the Red Lion, the barman will buy you your third
drink after you buy the first two.”
“Ahhh, dat’s
nothin’,” said the Irishman, “back home in my favorite pub, the moment you
set foot in the place, they’ll buy you a drink, then another, all the
drinks you like, actually. Then, when you’ve had enough drinks, they’ll
take you upstairs and see dat you gets laid, all on the
house!”
The Englishman and Scotsman were suspicious of
the claims. The Irishman swore every word was
true.
“Did this actually happen to
you?”
“Not meself, personally, no,” admitted the
Irishman, “but it did happen to me sister quite a few
times.”
/how do bulls lose to new jersey?
//for jersey
January 6th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
yes, because GB’s OL’s have been excellent while rodgers has been there.
/wanking motion
January 6th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
Well, they may not have let Favre “retire” as easily as they did.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
show your work.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
I know, but even rich people dont like leaving the amount of money he may be loosing on the table. He could be loosing more than just a million or so.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Shit, it might still be Brett Favre
January 6th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
true, but rich people can also afford to wait.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Does anyone know anyone who has been to The French Laundry in Napa?
January 6th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Point totally missed. The point wasn’t the line, the point was that he got to learn from an established veteran before even stepping onto the field. No the GB lines haven’t been the greatest at all, but he still had 3 years to learn how to deal with it without having to actually deal with it.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Knicks fan, sorry buddy.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
I know a couple people that have gone and have had nothing but good reviews and recommendations. I have not been there myself though.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
I want to know how much it costs.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
note to self: do not sling guns.
/rodgers’d
January 6th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Can’t blame JJ Watt but this sucks…best of luck to the big man on the next level
January 6th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Then you don’t want to go, it’s one of those types of places. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
see you in four years when you’re relevant again, wisconsin.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Unless his knee gets destroyed at the end of the season, then he’s screwed. If I was him thats why I would be going to the nfl this year.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
haha, this got a chuckle
/Fuck the Browns
//waves Terrible Towel and feels better for laughing with spence
January 6th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
note to self: do not sling guns.
mental note: the point is to win, not just have fun out there.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
You’re so passionate today.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Semen. Drink it.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
don’t hate on me that you were flummoxed by a truth bomb.
January 6th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Luck’s decision is absolutely NOT a shocker. He is a smart kid that comes from a family that values education. Remember this is the same young man whose final 3 was Stanford, Rice, and Purdue. Good for him for making the right decision.
January 6th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
i’m a Bills fan and i’m mixed about this. We didnt have a shot at Luck this year, but if he stays we could lose out on both of the top 2 D-linemen (Fairley and Bowers). On the other hand we can still go 0-16 next year and grab him next year!
/Buffalo optimism
//Of course Luck still has TWO years of eligibility left (Ugh!)
January 6th, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Locker goes back to #1 overall?
January 6th, 2011 at 4:14 PM
One of these is not like the others.
January 6th, 2011 at 5:00 PM
What a dumbass! Hope he goes in the 2nd round, make league min. and turn out to be shit, ie. Clausen