2011 NFL Draft Thoughts … Six Months Early
The 2011 NFL Draft is right around the corner! Only six months! Based on early college football and NFL returns, we decided to take a gander at what the Top 10 in April 2011 could look like. The common theme here: With the exception of the Patriots (who have Oakland’s pick), eight teams either need a QB (yes, we included Jacksonville) or have a very young QB who looks like a keeper (Detroit, St. Louis, Tampa). Denver has Tim Tebow on deck to supplant Kyle Orton, though it remains to be seen if Tebow can be a pro QB. We’ll revisit this periodically throughout the season.
1) Buffalo Bills – It’ll be a QB, and right now the top two choices seem to be Andrew Luck of Stanford and Ryan Mallett of Arkansas. Jake Locker’s death grip on the spot has been loosened (considerably) but he’s a vastly superior athlete to Luck and Mallett, and if he partakes in the February combine, who knows if he can leap back to No. 1.
2) Cleveland Browns – Unless you think Colt McCoy is the QB of the future, you’re likely looking at whoever is left from the Luck/Mallett/Locker triumvirate.
3) Carolina Panthers – The franchise overhaul is coming. Steve Smith could get dealt. It’s very likely that they’ll have a new coach. It’s too early to tell if Clausen has QB-of-the-future potential. Carolina hasn’t had a 1st round pick in the last two years. If they don’t draft a QB, then perhaps OL or DT (Marvin Austin or Marcell Dareus?) make sense. What about this – if Smith is traded, is Georgia WR AJ Green an option here?
4) Detroit Lions – Set at the offensive skill positions. Through three games they’re giving up 148 yards on the ground, worst in the league. But instead of fortifying the front seven, we’d protect the investment and get Matt Stafford some help. Among the highest-rated offensive lineman at this point: Anthony Castonzo of Boston College, DeMarcus Love of Arkansas, and Nate Solder of Colorado.
5) St. Louis Rams – Don’t love taking receivers this early, but Sam Bradford desperately needs AJ Green. Between Green, Bradford and Jackson, plus an improving defense (again, it’s early, but they have seven forced fumbles, and are only giving up 16.3 ppg vs. 27 last year), the Rams could be contending the NFC West by 2012.
6) Jacksonville Jaguars – The David Garrard contract extension appears to have been a major mistake. But we’d actually draft defense here, because it has gotten increasingly worse in the last three years. Go get LSU lockdown corner Patrick Peterson and then spend the draft collecting offensive lineman and fortifying the abysmal defense.
7) New England Patriots (via Oakland) – There’s been plenty of speculation that the Patriots will use this pick on Alabama RB Mark Ingram, but it’s way too high for the Heisman Trophy winner, who could probably be had in the late teens or 20s. The way Belichick has drafted (or rather, been taught how to draft by Pioli), the Patriots will trade down in the first round and acquire more picks. And then draft Ingram.
8) Tampa Bay Bucs – Ronde Barber’s going to be 36 when the next draft rolls around, why not replace him with a supposed star in Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara?
9) Denver Broncos - How about Adrian Clayborn, the defensive end terror at Iowa, to put on the left? Clayborn from one side, and Elvis Dumervil, when he returns from injury, blitzing from the other end? The way the Chargers are falling apart, Denver and Kansas City could leapfrog them next year with smart drafts.
10) Arizona Cardinals - Jason Snelling and Darren McFadden have rushed for over 100 yards in back-to-back weeks, and the Cards are 2nd worst in the league against the run so far. We’ll lean toward someone in the defensive front seven. We’re looking forward to seeing LB Von Miller of Texas A&M Thursday night. Other LB studs include Michigan State’s Greg Jones and UNC’s tandem of Greg Sturdivant and Bruce Carter.

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September 29th, 2010 at 2:48 PM
Supposed?
September 29th, 2010 at 2:50 PM
Hopefully the Lions can get Peterson or at least Price Amukamara.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:51 PM
The Jags take a QB in the 1st or 2nd round. Book it.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM
The Rams need as much, if not more OL help than the Lions.
Quan. Quan Sturdivant.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM
This top 10 mock draft is missing the Niners with a top 3 pick.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM
Vikings trade up and get Andrew Luck. Boom.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM
The Jaguars expect Garrard to be even better this season, with the addition of receivers Jerry Porter and Troy Williamson and another year in Dirk Koetter’s offense.
I remember reading this at the time and thinking ‘no fucking way’.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
The hot shit fire that is the 49ers right now should probably be drafting in the top 10. Its going to be hard for the Cardinals to draft that high when they will be in the playoffs.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
I would think the Lions would take Peterson. Seems like the best DB prospect coming out of college in years.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:56 PM
After Mr. Irrelevant is picked will a bugle player sound Taps since that will be the last league business before the lockout?
September 29th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
The lions are taking Petersen or Amukamara if they are there (in that order).
September 29th, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Thanks, I haven’t laughed that hard in awhile.
September 29th, 2010 at 2:59 PM
3) Carolina Panthers – The franchise overhaul is coming.
firesale!
havent watched Luck play yet this year
September 29th, 2010 at 2:59 PM
What’s the OL talent look like this year? Late 1st and 2nd round at least. Need to replace some of these used refrigerators.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Thank you, Richard Seymour.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
PLEEEAAASE please please please
September 29th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
The way its been going, would not be surprised if the Giants are hovering around the bottom of this list by the end of the season
September 29th, 2010 at 3:01 PM
I think you mean Taylor Mays
/2 years ago’d
September 29th, 2010 at 3:03 PM
I have a bad feeling the Vikings are going to keep telling themselves that T-Jack is a NFL QB for at least a couple years.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:04 PM
This gave me a hearty laugh.
Can’t believe we’re already trying to project who’s picking in the Top 10. I know its a masturbatory post, but seems absurd.
It’s also missing the Redskins.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:05 PM
where are the giants?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
If it winds up being the Seahawks that will be even funnier.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Preparing to start the Bear’s regression to the mean
September 29th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
I can tell ya, whatever the Browns do, they’ll fuck it up.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
the browns are too high
September 29th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Maybe they trade a 2nd rd pick for Kolb then draft AJ Green with their first?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
i wish the browns had st. louis’ schedule.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Maybe we don’t draft Clay Matthews Jr.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:09 PM
If Mangini was in charge of the draft, he would trade down 5 times for a RG in the 20s
/like Mack
September 29th, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Denver has Tim Tebow on deck to supplant Kyle Orton, though it remains to be seen if Tebow can be a pro QB.
What an odd, odd sentence.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:10 PM
“/like Mack” meant I like Mack, not similar to Mack
September 29th, 2010 at 3:11 PM
/throws challenge flag
September 29th, 2010 at 3:11 PM
you mean get a bunch of decent players as well as future star alex mack instead of the “pleasure” of paying $40 mil to mark sanchez on a 4-12 team with no WR’s?
i like to call that “the smart move.”
September 29th, 2010 at 3:15 PM
For once i wish we could draft like Pittsburgh.
/shits and vomits at the same time.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:15 PM
I didn’t notice that at first. Gotta have a young replacement ready for those 66% completion, 8.6 yards per attempt quarterbacks.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Isn’t that why they draft Robert Ayers last year? Also, I could be wrong, but doesn’t Clayborn project to a 4-3 End in the NFL? Denver runs a 3-4…
September 29th, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Which QB performance over the last 2 years, plus the first 3 weeks is Kyle Orton:
A) 61% Completion Percentage, 43 TDs, 26 INTs and 7.0 Yards per Attempt
B) 63%, 56, 25 and 7.8
C) 60%, 46, 22 and 7.4
Bonus points if you can guess the other 2 qbs.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Like when he took Ghoulston?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:19 PM
Cleveland 117 San Antonio 109
September 29th, 2010 at 3:19 PM
ayers is playing OLB while clayborn is a 3-4 DE.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Could happen. The Rams honestly don’t look horrid and have an easy schedule. The Cards should of lost at home to the Raiders. Let that sink in.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Cleveland 117 San Antonio 109
San Antonio 4 Cleveland 0
September 29th, 2010 at 3:21 PM
your blaming mangini for that even tho tannenbaum is the guy who got rid of faneca, thomas jones and leon washington and replaced them with a revolving door, a broken down LDT and busty joe mcknight? the guy who traded FOR braylon edwards and then traded for santonio holmes right after that? who traded for antonio cromartie who’s resembled toast so far this year? the guy who annually fucks up the draft pick compensation slotting for the rest of the league?
if you still think that’s mangini’s fault, by all means, but tannenbaum is a fucking joke of a GM and piece of shit human. so fuck him regardless.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:22 PM
how about you just tell us?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:22 PM
+ 1 national TV special
September 29th, 2010 at 3:22 PM
McDaniels is such an overrated personnel guy it cracks me up to just looking at a list of his draft day trade. Traded his 2010 first rounder to Seattle to move up in the second round to take 5’8″ Alphonso Smith, who he waited one year on before trading to the Lions for a fifth round pick and a fullback.
Then this year he did all this mindless trading before giving up three picks to select Tim Tebow. Just hilarious.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
why not replace him with a supposed star in Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara?
Supposed?
The West of the Mississippi Doesn’t Exist therom at work again, Husker.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Yes.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
I only brought it up because TBL mentioned Clayborn playing opposite from Dumervil, though I guess he wasn’t necessarily implying they both would be OLBs. That being said, why would you spend a top 10 pick on a 3-4 DE? There job is to occupy blockers, not rush the passer.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Fire. Brimstone.
Hell hath no wrath like Spencer’s shit list.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Romo and Mcnabb…
September 29th, 2010 at 3:25 PM
because any schmuck can occupy blockers in a 3-4, but there are only a few who can occupy blockers AND rush the passer well.
you don’t think aaron smith, if drafted in the past two or three years, wouldn’t garner a 1st round pick? plus, clayborn is fucing phenomenal. same with heyward and allen bailey, who are both 3-4 ends too.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:25 PM
revis, mangold, harris, ferguson. mangini gets an A for drafting with the jets
September 29th, 2010 at 3:25 PM
Is Chilly still there? Because if he is, its either going to be T Jack or Kevin Kolb.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:26 PM
He didn’t draft them.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:26 PM
he Rams could be contending the NFC West by 2012.
Everyone contends in the NFC West.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:27 PM
and ferguson and harris aren’t really all that good.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:27 PM
He didn’t draft them.
lol Duder
September 29th, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Tyson Jackson is nodding as he checks his bank account.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:28 PM
I’ll give you this, his voice and general way of speaking is excruciating.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Mangini still has acne. He is clear not ready for a head coaching job in the NFL.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
And Brett Keisel is a better pass rusher than Aaron Smith.
/Aaron Smith is fucking Beast-Mode though
September 29th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
but he drafted gholston? how convenient
September 29th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
and ferguson and harris aren’t really all that good.
can i do both sides of this argument for two turns?
jersey – yuh-huh
spence – nuh-uh
jersey – you suck
spence – you suck worse.
Ferguson’s been OK this year and was pretty good last year. I find Harris difficult to judge, since I never know anybody’s responsibilities in that craazy defense.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:30 PM
so any word when the overpaid revis is coming back? “give me a new contract even though i still have 3 years on my old one!” “ok revis here’s a new contract.” “ahh shit i’m out of shape..i’ll just get in playing shape during the regular season!” “ahh shit my hammy!”
/cut his ass
September 29th, 2010 at 3:31 PM
fine…in that case, tannenbaum gave an A+ extension to a B-/B player. he should be criticized for that especially considering he still had to pay mangold and revis, two far superior players.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:31 PM
This list needs more Allen Bailey
September 29th, 2010 at 3:31 PM
Ive never agreed more with something mrejr has written
September 29th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Revis is god. Deal with it.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
You say that like it’s a bad thing, but he’s going to come at one hell of a discount. Why not take a chance on him?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Brick is overrated for sure, but Harris has been a huge part of the jets run defense.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
why does shannon play bailey on the inside? everytime ive seen bailey moving down to DT he’s been washed out of the play.
bailey’s a fucking terror tho, not saying otherwise.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Wait, is Jared Crick not a top 10 pick now?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:34 PM
/does wanking motion
//faggy wolverine
September 29th, 2010 at 3:34 PM
then randy moss is a like a super duper god because he made revis his bitch on that catch
September 29th, 2010 at 3:35 PM
And Brett Keisel is a better pass rusher than Aaron Smith.
/Aaron Smith is fucking Beast-Mode though
I’ve always been meh on Keisel, but Aaron Smith is my favorite Steeler of all time.
/maybe tied with Dan Kreider
September 29th, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Revis is a slouch
September 29th, 2010 at 3:35 PM
fine…in that case, tannenbaum gave an A+ extension to a B-/B player. he should be criticized for that especially considering he still had to pay mangold and revis, two far superior players.
yeah, they kind of overpaid him, but they left themselves plenty of wiggle room to screw him out of the money, even the “guaranteed” money, if they need to. He’s no Clady, but you pay your valuable pieces.
They ended up finding the coin to pay those other two assholes, too, but they had to do bullshit like fuck Alan Faneca over and cut other vets to do it. Tannenbaum sucks, I’ll give you that.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Can’t deny that. Moss is amazing.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:37 PM
I liked the trade down Spence — didn’t want Sanchez. It was the next 3 trade downs for 6th rd picks that made me sick. I liked the Mack pick too just thought it was early.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Randy Should have just caught that ball with is dick, then he would be on the god like level of Mark Sanchez.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:37 PM
I think that makes Moss a Titan, and not the TN kind or Denzel kind, the Cronus kind.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Oh God no. Didn’t mean it like that. I was just saying that it would make too much sense for the Vikings to get him rather than draft another qb if Chilly is still there.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:40 PM
They’ve had injuries to their DTs and Bailey is the best/most experienced lineman. I would like to see him more on the edge myself. He also once killed an Alligator with a broom.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:40 PM
2 catches for 38 yards on the day…this is like saying a defensive end was better than a left tackle if he got one sack out of 40 snaps played
September 29th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Than Cromartie is like the very fiber of existence. Because he shut “This will probably be my last year here”‘s ass down in the second half.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Well if that sack caused a fumble and a touchdown, then I think DE had the better day.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
exactly.
/poops pants
September 29th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
2 catches for 38 yards on the day…this is like saying a defensive end was better than a left tackle if he got one sack out of 40 snaps played
the defensive end would have had a better day if the tackle got help nearly every play.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
if you watch the hole play you see moss nonchalantly raise his hand halfway through the route like “hey tom, i’m open…want a smoothie after the game?” moss is just unstoppable when he wants to be. moss closed revis island down for repairs..
September 29th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
I won;t argue with anyone here. This move made zero sense whatsoever.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
nicely played.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
or if you watch the whole play
September 29th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Oh yeah. He’s gonna be available for a 4th rounder, and if he’s mediocre, then that’s better than what you’re gonna get out of years 1 and 2 from a rookie, and you don’t have to pay all of that signing bonus money. Kolb’s a great deal waiting to happen for somebody.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
someone comment in the mma post
September 29th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Jets fans are too comical for me to fully loathe them.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
What’s really hilarious is your hard-on for the Alphonso Smith deal. It was a gamble, it didn’t work. Kind of like, I dunno, taking a running QB from a spread system with the #1 pick.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Ryan Kerrigan > Adrian Clayborn
September 29th, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Also, the Broncos aren’t drafting in the Top 10 next year.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:46 PM
my favorite mcdaniels trade was giving the browns peyton hillis for brady quinn.
thanks!
September 29th, 2010 at 3:46 PM
Oh come on dude. If everyone is gonna hop on Moss’s dick for making one really awesome grab that entire game, than they should at least hop off of it for the fact that Cromartie came in and said NO to him for the last 30 minutes of the game.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:47 PM
that’s like saying lawerence taylor > reggie white…they’re too different.
now cameron heyward > adrian clayborn? now that’s accurate.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:47 PM
someone comment in the mma post
done.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Fuck yea!
Browns: Where black punter/white running back happens, baby!
September 29th, 2010 at 3:48 PM
I had a feeling the analogy wasn’t fully thought out
September 29th, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Everyone is pointing to Moss’ talent. If Moss wanted to go beastmode on Sir Spurts-a-lot, I think he could have had some success. The Pats offense sputtered and Moss checked out. Cromartie and his hand-hugging can get all the props you want, but 81 is still the superior player.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Its awkward isnt it? Poor CRM.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Sad I missed the thread. Oh well. Gotta eat sometime.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:49 PM
butters: analogies :: tannenbaum:: gm-ing
September 29th, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Vick.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:50 PM
You think Rex promises Cromartie a new girl to impregnate to get him to play hard?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:50 PM
How can a future bust be better than an NFL Hall of Famer.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Dunno, SC, how can a 5th rounder be considered a bust?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
ALright. It just seems like everyone is having fun with the amazing catch that Moss had in that game and forgetting he had a shitty rest of game.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
havent seen clayborn this season but liked clayborn more after last year
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
well simply by perusing the all b10 teams, it seems that clayborn has a bunch more talent around him in the front 7…which is why heyward’s leading of OSU to better performances and statistics across the board is far more impressive.
/still pissed that all those hawkeyes were on the all b10 list
//even more pissed that ferentz was COY
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
D’oh! I fucked that up. I was thinking Cameron Newton for some reason. Cam Heyward is pretty legit
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
I can’t help but think that this was followed by some sort of celebratory dance.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:52 PM
Mc Daniels is a fucking dolt.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:53 PM
I tried…Ted Ginn burned Revis once in a game too, doesn’t mean he’s worth a shit as an NFL player
September 29th, 2010 at 3:54 PM
Ted Ginn burned Revis once in a game too, doesn’t mean he’s ever actually attended a college class
/ just because
September 29th, 2010 at 3:54 PM
To date, Peyton Hillis has had, let’s see, maybe four quality games in his career. But please, by all means, crown his ass.
/Not a Hillis hater by any means, but the over-the-top manlove that kid gets is something to behold.
//You can, however, have Quinn back.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Recruit better. Actually, check that. Develop better. Stop wasting 5 star talents.
I think this has something to do with Brutus.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:55 PM
BQ hasn’t had four quality games in his career.
and it’s fun watching hillis beastmode people. nobody’s saying he’s the second coming of john riggins or anything…
September 29th, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Well he’s lightning fast and probably ran a good route for once, catching Revis off guard.
/blind squirrel, finds nut.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Peyton Hillis has had, let’s see, maybe four quality games in his career. But please, by all means, crown his ass.
Four more than Quinn’s gonna have
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Ah, yes, by all means trading a 7th round pick who failed to produce *at all* last year is the sign of a true incompetent.
Never got why guys defend people in the pros who went to their favorite school. Joey Porter can suck a fat one, for all I care.
…
joey porter is all we’ve got.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
OSU does develop better which is why OSU is busy winning big ten champs while yall were getting beat by a team dressed like a bunch of used tampons from the pac-10.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Um, I think we can all agree the catch was stupid good. I agree the Jets shut down the Pats offense in the second half from the get go. I am not ready to blow Cromartie. That is all I got.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
hes a white running back. is another reason needed for the love?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Did someone call Revis overrated earlier? Wow. That would be dumb even for my standards.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
/Dougies?
September 29th, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Trucking Landry for 10 more yards after first contact gave me an erection.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:58 PM
agree with this completely.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:58 PM
Including college
September 29th, 2010 at 3:58 PM
I’ll always have the Jewel Hampton block to look back on as something positive from that game. I feel so bad for him. Again, I blame Brutus.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:58 PM
Trucking Landry for 10 more yards after first contact gave me an erection.
Funny, same thing happened to LaRon
September 29th, 2010 at 3:59 PM
At the time, the trade was basically nothing for nothing. Good on Hillis for having a good game. Hey, wait, didn’t he also have a costly fumble in the first one? Or was it second?
He seems like a nice kid. Hope he succeeds.
September 29th, 2010 at 3:59 PM
Revis is damn good, no doubt. But Randy Moss is one of the best to ever wear the cleats. No reason to compare the two at this point.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:00 PM
He’s also awesome.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:00 PM
I would wager almost anything that the Dougie would be the last celebratory dance on dirt’s list.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
I agree with this all. But he’s a Pat, and plays for Emperor Palpatine, so fuck him. So happy the Jets beat those fuckers.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
My loathing of Dirt : Dirt’s loathing of Cleet :: Uhhh, Something big : Something small
/Shit
September 29th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
I would wager almost anything that the Dougie would be the last celebratory dance on dirt’s list.
as previously stated, I’m a truffle shuffler.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Regular Mike Alstott muthafuckas.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
That’s why its funny. Can Dirt even dance if he wanted? He doesn;t strike me as the type that could.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:02 PM
OK, I will stop talking about Hillis after…this: his parents are, literally, like 37 years old.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:02 PM
It’s just one of the most short-sighted draft-day decisions (or “gambles”) I’ve ever seen and reeks of “I’m smarter than you” douchiness.
And it only took one year to fall flat on its face.
Also, I know this is a dig at Alex Smith, but you have quite a big glass house over there, Mr. Tebow.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:03 PM
This is what Moss thinks of Revis, Jersey.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:04 PM
gerard…cool it with the saltiness brah. it’s ok to admit your over-his-head coach got fleeced in a trade.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:04 PM
I wasn’t defending him as much as I was sating McDaniels was an idiot for trading him after never giving him a chance. He had one fumble, Moreno had 4. Hillis just wasn’t “one of his guys” so he never had a shot. Look at what Hillis did under Shanny, McDaniels never gave him a chance last year. what, 17 carries all year?
September 29th, 2010 at 4:07 PM
But they’re not related to each other. So coming from Arkansas, I consider that a win.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:07 PM
I’m not the hugest fan of the strategy, but it worked pretty well for Bobby Beathard. And Smith was widely seen as one of, if not the, best corner in the draft. It didn’t work out; that happens. He and Xanders have actually been leaps and bounds better than Shanny. But people focus on that pick. OMG SMARTY DOUCHERSON
Hell, I didn’t want Tebow. But it’s not exactly apples v. oranges. One was the #1 overall, the other was the team’s second pick in the bottom third of the first. And even equalling that out, I would take the Funky Throwin’ Jesus over Tinyhands McBain any day of the week.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:08 PM
That’s why its funny. Can Dirt even dance if he wanted?
nope, no I cannot. When I was a kid, I was the guy who found the cardboard for the breakdancers to dance on. I was better at just standing behind the mall.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
It’s OK to admit you stroke it to a wall-sized photo of Scott Stapp.
/Clady >>>> Thomas
September 29th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
Now That was funny.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:10 PM
I like Hillis, but last year when he fumbled the opening kick against the Browns I knew he was gone. As Gerard says, the trade was basically nothing for nothing. I’m happy Hillis had a good game last week and somewhat produced against that porous Chiefs defense but he’s by no means the cream of the crop.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:10 PM
Didn’t he lead Denver in rushing as a rookie? Doesn’t it sometimes take running backs more than 1 season to develop? (before he got benched for Knowshon) Isn’t he a beast?
/Answer to all these questions is yes.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:10 PM
i can’t admit neither because then i’d be lying and lying is wrong.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Jose, he did…after 6 other backs went down in front of him. He had like 340 total yards. Shanahan barely had him on the radar until his hand was forced.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:12 PM
ooo…i haven’t seen this side of denver fan.
salacious!
September 29th, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Spence, he accepts you. With Arms Wide Open.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:14 PM
This reminds me a LOT of what TBL tells spencer when discussing the trade to get Sanchez.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:15 PM
When it comes down to it, when I’ve seen Hillis in games he’s looked good. whether he’s been featured or blocking or whatever he’s done well except for a fumble or two. I have never seen Brady Quinn look good with the exception of that 1 time he played Detroit.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:16 PM
triston…hey, i admit my teams faults and shitiness.
but you broncos fans are acting all butthurt that someone would DARE imply that giving away an RB who can contribute for a backup QB that you should pray never steps on the field is a bad trade.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:16 PM
To each his own, I guess, but I think we’re both losers in this choice. I’d take the case of Michelob Ultra.
And Niners management never gave off the aura that’s its ever known remotely what it’s doing since Walsh left. McDaniels, well, he knows more than everyone.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Well, we can thank the Weis/McDaniels circle jerk of mutual admiration for Quinn. Hillis was probably gone either way.
Quinn really does suck, but you know who he is better than? Chris Simms, that’s who. (shudders)
September 29th, 2010 at 4:17 PM
And Pittsburgh on a glorious Thursday night..
September 29th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
triston…hey, i admit my teams faults and shitiness.
list them all, singly, now. That should get us to 500 comments.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
fumble rate should go down the more he gets used to handling the ball
September 29th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Not at all. I’m saying that, at the time of the trade, it was trash for trash. Hillis so far has looked less trashy.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
but list them in the mma post…
September 29th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
I think we all need to relax and watch Spike stretch:
http://www.youtube.com/user/SpikeCanDance#p/u/0/-ebOMx22l2k
September 29th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Here is where the disconnect happens for me: that just isn’t the impression he gives off, in my opinion. If anything, he seems confident, but at least human…fuck, man, we had Mike Shanahan here for 13 years. THAT guy knew more than everyone. And bathed in orange paint.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Thing is, Hillis was never going to contribute in a McDaniels system. And we were also pretty hard up for a QB at the time because we didn’t know if Orton would even sign his tender or not. So basically we gave up a non-contributor for a possible starting QB.
Thankfully, things didn’t work out that way. As it is, you got a RB who can help your team but wouldn’t have helped ours, and we got a serviceable QB when, at the time, we had no clue who we’d even go to training camp with.
At the time, and now, it’s worked out just fine for both teams. that’s where I don’t see this supposed “fleecing.”
September 29th, 2010 at 4:22 PM
now that’s retarded.
how could this look less trashy than this?
/literal’d
September 29th, 2010 at 4:23 PM
What the fuck did i just watch Hussler?. Jesus Christ, i couldn’t watch anymore after he took off his jacket and has his body parts listed. That was horrible.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
why/how?
genuinely curious…if mcd’s offense was anything like he ran in NE hillis would’ve been a decent fit. he can catch out of the backfield, is a good blocker, is versatile and can run between the tackles.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:25 PM
I started the “SUPER BOWL!” chant walking out of BWWs after that game.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:28 PM
You gotta just persevere. It’s rough, I know, but also one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. He lists the “knee” as a muscle.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:29 PM
spencer, It’s not that he couldn’t. It’s that he was never going to. He was never considered a RB. Even under Shanny, he was more of an H-back role until being forced into service. By bringing in Buck and Moreno, that just pushed Hillis even further back.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:31 PM
werd.
well, we’re happy to have him. and have quinn gone forevah.
and i guess that just puts us back at square 1.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:32 PM
are you sold on moreno as a good rb
September 29th, 2010 at 4:37 PM
I love how Brownies cling to their one win in 10 years over the Steelers. I was at that game, it was beyond brutal, one of the coldest night of my life (and subsequently drunkest). You could tell that the Steelers just wanted it to be over and to the Browns it was the Super Bowl.
But seriously, big win.
/wanking motion
September 29th, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Not completely. When he’s healthy, he can be very good, but I’m not sold on him staying healthy.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:39 PM
let it go coop. its not your fault
September 29th, 2010 at 4:40 PM
It was so cold, you couldn’t even feel his lips.
September 29th, 2010 at 4:52 PM
I snuck in two bottles of whiskey after drinking before. I was so drunk I could have made out with a police horse and not known. I woke up in the back of a cab in an Amy Joy parking lot, cabbie shaking me and yelling at me to wake up.
It was several days before I felt right.
September 29th, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Just bustin balls Coop. That literally was the coldest night of the year. I would have needed a 5th of whiskey to stay warm
September 29th, 2010 at 6:48 PM
the amy joy on richmond and mayfield?
September 29th, 2010 at 6:52 PM
A first round quarterback, um, well I don’t know. Let’s flip a coin. Heads, yes. Tails, no. That makes about as much sense historically as doing every skills test know to man. The number of round 1 QB busts is way too high.
September 29th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
The one and only.
/Lyndhurst thug 4 life
September 29th, 2010 at 8:03 PM
w00t! that’s fuckin’ awesome.
September 30th, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Patrick Peterson falling all the way to #6? Uh… no.
And by the way, why are we even talking about the draft? Everyone knows they’ll be locked out next year anyway…