Roundup: Denver’s Kenny McKinley Has Died, Vanilla Sky to New Orleans, & “Caffeine Insanity” Defense
Irina Shayk, who is Cristiano Ronaldo’s girlfriend … everyone loved Keri Russell – 10 years ago … man arrested twice in one night for allegedly drunk driving … what an ESPN internship is like … police officers in Jersey are way overpaid … man arrested for sexually assaulting plastic dinosaur … It’s Always Shady in Philadelphia … the idiocy in college newspapers knows no bounds … the woman who was caught on video throwing the cat in the trash has been charged with animal cruelty … that pension bubble in Fort Worth looks like trouble … “caffeine insanity” … man urinates on police station, then walks in … let’s see how long this lasts: Stephanie Seymour and her husband called off their divorce …
Saints 25, 49ers 22. Drew Brees was brilliant on the late, final drive. [Chronicle]
Some updates on the apparent suicide of Denver Broncos receiver Kenny McKinley. [Post]
Did Ross Tucker have one of the quietest SI-to-ESPN moves ever? [Reading Eagle]
Redskins fans taunt Mario Williams with Super Mario Brothers references; the former No. 1 pick sacked McNabb three times. [Bog]
Joe “Vanilla Sky” Alexander, who flamed out quickly in Milwaukee, has signed with the Hornets. [NOLA]
Spelling mistake on a South Bend billboard: Pubic instead of Public. [WSBT]
There could be as many as 16 MLB managerial changes this offseason. [USA Today]
Small towns breed tons of pro athletes. [WSJ]
Mo Williams was so crushed by LeBron’s departure that he nearly quit the NBA. [Yahoo Sports]
Will Favre just throw in the towel if Minnesota keeps losing? [Fox Sports]
The idea of voting with your feet. [LA Times]
Yankees beat the Rays, go 1.5 games up in the AL East, cause columnist to worry about Tampa’s rotation. [St. Pete Times]
America’s wealthiest states (based on median income): New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut. The Poorest: West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi. [CNN]
“Bob [Tebow] and his wife, Pam, are currently visiting more than 3,500 schools across the country to share their work and encourage students to gather for 30 minutes around their schools’ flagpoles before classes start to engage in prayer.” [CBS4]
Oregon State, in preparation for its trip to the Smurf Turf in Boise Saturday, painted its practice field blue.
Our music correspondent checks in.

- LeBron James’ Game-Winning Lay Up at the Buzzer in Overtime While Roy Hibbert Sat on the Bench [Video]
- Paul George Hit a Ridiculous 3 to Send it Into Overtime After Throwing the Ball Away Moments Earlier [Video]
- Paul George Wore Aqua Pants and a Green, Amoeba-Pattered Dress Shirt to Game 1 in Miami
- Shane Battier Kneed Roy Hibbert in the Balls [Video]
- Chuck Norris Wants a NFL Team to Sign Tim Tebow Because He is a Winner Like Chuck Norris

- Quietgoesthedon on LeBron James' Game-Winning Lay Up at the Buzzer in Overtime While Roy Hibbert Sat on the Bench [Video]
- knifeyspoony on Paul George Wore Aqua Pants and a Green, Amoeba-Pattered Dress Shirt to Game 1 in Miami
- wildcat1144 on LeBron James' Game-Winning Lay Up at the Buzzer in Overtime While Roy Hibbert Sat on the Bench [Video]
- resolutedefense on Paul George Wore Aqua Pants and a Green, Amoeba-Pattered Dress Shirt to Game 1 in Miami
- resolutedefense on Paul George Wore Aqua Pants and a Green, Amoeba-Pattered Dress Shirt to Game 1 in Miami
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September 21st, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Come the F on, Jersey…
September 21st, 2010 at 9:23 AM
Mo Williams is quite the fag.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:23 AM
Any Killers fans (awaits harsh response)? Brandon Flowers’ new album is very solid, if so. If not, please return to your regularly scheduled worship of 70′s rock.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:23 AM
Awesome.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:24 AM
Wow.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:24 AM
Still love Keri Russell.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:25 AM
what an ESPN internship is like
vader fist pump!
September 21st, 2010 at 9:25 AM
man arrested for sexually assaulting plastic dinosaur
Only in Philly…
Saints 25, 49ers 22. Drew Brees was brilliant on the late, final drive.
We’re taking the W, but no one in New Orleans is happy today.
Joe “Vanilla Sky” Alexander, who flamed out quickly in Milwaukee, has signed with the Hornets
Training camp body. He’s the 2nd after Pops Mensah-Bosuh.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:25 AM
I think it’s still illegal to have a 14 year old girl shackled in your basement even if you call her your legal expert
September 21st, 2010 at 9:25 AM
And he had a pick 6 on Sunday! Dude is ballin’ all over the place.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:27 AM
after looking at the picture, I wonder why she got hired. I’m sure it’s cause she’s really smart.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:27 AM
What a fucking pussy.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:27 AM
please return to your regularly scheduled worship of 70’s rock.
/cranks up Rainbow
“Kill the Kiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!!”
September 21st, 2010 at 9:27 AM
I’m an idiot’d
September 21st, 2010 at 9:27 AM
Small towns breed tons of pro athletes.
6 offensive linemen?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:28 AM
Did Ross Tucker have one of the quietest SI-to-ESPN moves ever?
Who?
Our music correspondent checks in.
Is your music correspondent a 12 year old girl?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:28 AM
Alex Smith looked better than Brees for most of the night. Especially after the 1st Q.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:28 AM
Alex Smith wasn’t bad either.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:28 AM
New Jersey should adapt a salary cap…bring parity to the force
September 21st, 2010 at 9:29 AM
Some nasally guy who took over the Football Today podcast from Jeremy Green. If anything, it’s actually worse now.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
Yep, has nothing to do with being an attractive blonde
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
He’s a former NFL offensive lineman. And it gets worse than Jeremy Green?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
with knowing Jersey’s musical tastes, is anyone really surprised?
/turns up Dwight Yoakam
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
How is that possible? Nobody was worse on that football podcast talking about football games on the football field than Jeremy Green.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
Some nasally guy who took over the Football Today podcast from Jeremy Green. If anything, it’s actually worse now.
Never heard of him. I don’t frequent SI or ESPN too often.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:30 AM
police officers in Jersey are way overpaid’
America’s wealthiest states (based on median income): New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut.
Hmmm….wonder if these two are related….
September 21st, 2010 at 9:31 AM
I saw this yesterday and thought it was a stupid thing to put in the paper but it is getting blown out of proportion. It is college kids talking about stupid urban legend sex positions.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:31 AM
That pension article is just amazing. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Does anyone know how to do a break-even analysis in order to understand the magnitude of the situation?
Every person was out for themselves, worrying about getting re-elected or keeping their union job. Even when things were going great, this was a failed plan of epically disasterous proportion.
“Let’s give retired cops 99% of their best salary yearly until they die, PLUS let’s give them $200,000 just for retiring.”
Jesus Christ, that’s stupid. No more dumb than the idiocy that is running many major companies right now, but doing it with taxpayer dollars is just unconscionable.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:32 AM
I had to look her up. That guy scored 2 shorthanded goals to end up with her.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:32 AM
Baseball Today and Football Today took serious turns for the worse in 2010. More things on ESPN I’ve given up on.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Purdue put an image of multiplicity in its paper? Wow.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Bob [Tebow] and his wife, Pam, are currently visiting more than 3,500 schools across the country to share their work and encourage students to gather for 30 minutes around their schools’ flagpoles before classes start to engage in prayer.”
like sunnyside said in the last comment of last night’s TBLAD, how long before the Tebows lead team prayers in the wake of McKinley’s death?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:33 AM
From the ESPN internship article:
wink wink nudge nudge
September 21st, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Thank God for mississippi!
/sigh
September 21st, 2010 at 9:34 AM
She’s run herself through the NHL two times over in the last 20 years.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:34 AM
I got suspended from our college paper for a week for letting a picture of a band with their guitarist flipping the camera off run on like page 13 our entertainment supplement. Personally, I think sex and violence should permeate all our media. But that’s just me.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:34 AM
No wonder Christie wants to give the teachers a screwjob.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:34 AM
/turns up Dwight Yoakam
you’re going to need more than Dwight come saturday.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:34 AM
man arrested for sexually assaulting plastic dinosaur
imagine if Jurassic Park was yer porn
September 21st, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Axl Rose > That Guy. Also, was it ever determined how she died in the November Rain video?
I’m still so bummed out about Baseball Today, Eric is awesome but the other guy is overwhelmingly bad.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:35 AM
haha @Illformula
Mo Williams sucking is the reason Lebron left. He should feel bad.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:35 AM
You don’t know who Stephanie Seymour is? That’s it, I’m officially old.
/turns up November Rain
//cries
September 21st, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Struggling mightily with this today, as is the entire South Carolina family. A nonsensical tragedy.
RIP #11.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:35 AM
did they take into account the cost of living. Somehow I believe it’s a lot more expensive to live in Jersey than let’s say Mississippi.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Honest question. Did Christie ask the police/firefighter unions to make sacrifices as well? Did they?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:36 AM
/cranks up Rainbow
“Kill the Kiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!!”
fredo, are you the man on the silver mountain?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Vanilla Sky is back baby!!
/high fives mldatx
September 21st, 2010 at 9:36 AM
As soon as the Buehrle Meter was introduced I completely gave up on Baseball Tonight.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:37 AM
We ran the cartoon images of Mohammed. Man, that was some overwhelming response from the campus, community and the local media.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:37 AM
Really? That seems pretty harmless to me.
Cost of paint job: $11K.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:38 AM
/turns up Dwight Yoakam
i have one of his cds (long way home) and would gladly get more
September 21st, 2010 at 9:38 AM
I had to look her up. That guy scored 2 shorthanded goals to end up with her.
“I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds. I don’t know what that’s about.”
W. Axl Rose
September 21st, 2010 at 9:39 AM
are you fucking for real?
TBL…you need a new music correspondent. this guy sucks.
/glares at jersey
September 21st, 2010 at 9:39 AM
It really is so mindblowing. I can understand why police and fire fighters deserve a nice pension. But to that extent?!?!
September 21st, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Also, was it ever determined how she died in the November Rain video?
I thought it was death by Slash solo.
fredo, are you the man on the silver mountain?
I’m a wheel, I’m a wheel, I can roll, i can feel
September 21st, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Great game last night the defense for the 49ers played outstanding. This is the team I expected to open the season last week in Seattle. That said cannot turn the ball over 4 times give up a safety and still beat good teams.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:40 AM
Mario Williams: wordsmythe
September 21st, 2010 at 9:40 AM
Lightning?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:40 AM
/walks out in the middle of thread
//unleashes 23 minute guitar solo while being circled by helicopters
September 21st, 2010 at 9:40 AM
I’m guessing the dinosaur never said no. this guy is getting hosed.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:41 AM
wink wink nudge nudge
wink’s as good as a nod to a blind man. is she a sport? is she a go-er?
/python’d
September 21st, 2010 at 9:41 AM
He should for his sake.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:41 AM
+ 1 small church out in the middle of the desert.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:41 AM
+1
/november rain solo was awesome
September 21st, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Think I was around 7 or 8 when that video came out. I do remember it well as my brother was a big G&R fan. Just didn’t know that was her that was in it.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Irina Shayk is a fucking hero.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:42 AM
November Rain great song. GN fing R
September 21st, 2010 at 9:42 AM
you’re right ill, it’s going to be “Hog Wild” by Hank Jr. all night!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 9:44 AM
I do remember it well as my brother was a big G&R fan.
I remember hitting up the music store at midnight to pick Use Your Illusion. Parents had a conniption when they heard Get in the Ring.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:44 AM
November Rain solo gives me chills every time I hear it. I’ve never been a big G n’ R fan, but that song freakin rocks.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:44 AM
Doubtful. Their union endorsed him and gave him a shitload of scrilla for his campaign coffers.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:45 AM
if you can find the “Austin City Limits” cd I highly recommend it.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:46 AM
I remember November Rain at middle school dances. We would slow dance, then in the middle of the song, everyone would start head banging to the guitar solo.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:46 AM
I had to look her up.
Brainsplosion of the highest magnitude. Get the fuck out of here. Axl Rose used to beat her up. She was the most popular model in the world for a few years in the early 90s. Think Giselle or Lima.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:46 AM
Not a big Killers fan, but Flamingo is indeed a very solid album. Saw Mr. flowers perform at a tiny club here in Hollywood (The Troubadour) a month or so ago, and stood dangerously close to one Charlize Theron who was also in attendance.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:46 AM
Enough talk – let’s link the Nov. Rain video
September 21st, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Axel in the N.W.A. hat. Awesome.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Mo Williams was so crushed by LeBron’s departure that he nearly quit the NBA.
my fondest memory of Mo Gotti is the ECF 2009 vs Orlando. Cleveland just lost and Mo Williams is talking to reporters with a huge black eye. “We the best team in basketball” said Mo Gotti. the Cavs lost. one of my fave series. Will the Cavs even make the playoffs this year? from the top to bottom real quick
September 21st, 2010 at 9:47 AM
November Rain great song.
ick. that mental struggle axl had got old quick, and then to incorporate his psych sessions into a video? give me Appetite and the EP with I used to love her and Patience, and I’m good
September 21st, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Enough talk – let’s link the Nov. Rain video
I know where the next 9 minutes or so of my life is going.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Some educating needs to be done…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_rain
September 21st, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Eat poison.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Yep, same exact thing.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:48 AM
at least they played with balls isntead of that pussified brand of hoops the magic plays.
/jacks 3
September 21st, 2010 at 9:48 AM
/walks out in the middle of thread
//unleashes 23 minute guitar solo while being circled by helicopters
+2
Where’s Axl on the piano?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Awesome. Love The Troubadour, and I’ve always told anyone who’ll listen that Charlize Theron is by far the hottest celebrity I’ve ever seen in person. Just amazing.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
That is some high quality internettery right there.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Underrated Slash solo from an equally ridiculous video: rising from the bottom of the sea to help out Axl and his rescue dolphins with a quick but furious lead fill.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Yup. Now I have to listen to the whole thing.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
I met this girl, she looked like Axl Rose. Got drunk and took her home and we slept in our clothes
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Winger > Guns and Roses
/TBL music correspondent’d
September 21st, 2010 at 9:50 AM
She was the most popular model in the world for a few years in the early 90s. Think Giselle or Lima.
Stephanie Seymour. Kathy Ireland. Christy Turlington. Naomi Campbell (before she got evil crazy). Cindy Crawford. Elle McPherson.
The women who invented the term “supermodel”.
/or just go watch “Freedom” by George Michael.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:51 AM
the first matrix was originally supposed to be the backdrop for a slash solo, but he thought it was too subtle.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:51 AM
Holy fuck. The November Rain music video is 9+ minutes. Epic.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:51 AM
Debbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbby!
September 21st, 2010 at 9:52 AM
Oh, yes.
And, she was a former Clooney squeeze too.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:52 AM
While much speculation exists about how Seymour’s character in the video died, the relationship between the video clip and James’ short story strongly suggests that she is killed by a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. During the funeral sequence, a mirror is visible, covering over half her face, a technique used by funeral homes to allow victims of head trauma to have the appearance of a full face in the event of an open casket funeral. Also, during video, Axl is seen walking past a store with the name “Guns”, though this may be an in-joke reference to the band’s name.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:52 AM
10 minutes on Google provided a slew of articles that point to that answer being “no”. Politically, teachers a much easier target than cops, of course.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Remember when music videos were awesome and MTV was MTV.
/snaps on a snap on bracelet
//Two pumps each for the Reebok Pumps
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Best. Music. Correspondent. Ever.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
More like a “Career Low” Right!?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
GnR – Night Train. If I ever enter the ring it’s to that.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
And to think the guy had all that talent around and he plays for the other team. What a waste.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Good for you, Ed Burns. Christy Turlington used to make going to the eye doctor a much more pleasant experience.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
I take that back.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/10/0914/2348/
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
if you didn’t know they were christian you’d think this was a cult.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:54 AM
After the top 5 (Miami, Bos, ATL, Orl, Chi) I think it’s anybody’s guess who the next three teams will be. And I’m not buying Milwaukee.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Ah, THAT’S what that is. I always thought she looked funny.
Seriously though, Estranged doesn’t get talked about enough. It might be the funniest video ever. Let me count the ways: the raid on Axl’s house, the fawning harem of supermodels, Axl’s gigantic police escort, some dolphins, Axl somehow not shattering every bone in his body as he jumps from about 45 feet into the ocean, some more dolphins, Slash rising from the water, and even more dolphins.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:55 AM
The most underrated musician of the last 40 years.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:55 AM
I had forgotten that. Well played, Mr. Burns. Very well played.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:56 AM
You will Fear the Deer.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:56 AM
Anyone ever see G&R in concert? Probably up there with Sublime in terms of bands I wish I would have seen live. Dispatch, too.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:56 AM
you mean the guy who’s only good song has been played to death is underrated?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:57 AM
He’s underrated the same way Ben E. King is underrated.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:57 AM
stood dangerously close to one Charlize Theron who was also in attendance.
must have more details. as purty in real life?
September 21st, 2010 at 9:57 AM
you either suck as a fan or just try incredibly hard to do the reverse jinx thing.
saw this from the last post. that was funny.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Sportsdork: Christie has just began proposing changes for police and firefighters. Obviously, they are not happy. The argument is that the police pay a good deal into their pension funds. The problem is the balance that is paid to retired officers, plus whatever benefits they have, still is mostly made up of taxpayer money.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:57 AM
My sister went to Guns N’ Metallica at the Metrodome in like 1991. So jealous.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:58 AM
There it is
September 21st, 2010 at 9:58 AM
The most underrated musician of the last 40 years.
I’m just going to assume that’s a rick roll.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
My sister went to Guns N’ Metallica at the Metrodome in like 1991. So jealous.
Must have been one of the handful of concerts that Axl didn’t walk off stage or cancel.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
My sister went to Guns N’ Metallica at the Metrodome in like 1991. So jealous.
They played Camarohead that year. Body Count opened.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Sublime sans Bradley Nowell are touring. I believe they are called Sublime with Rome. I hear the concerts are not half bad. Then again, almost anything would be better than Long Beach Dub Allstars.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
The song as a whole I can take or leave, but the intro to Sweet Child of Mine is one of my favorite pieces of music.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
No love for Aint No Sunshine or Lovely Day? Racist.
September 21st, 2010 at 9:59 AM
lean on me by bill withers. no rick roll.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Seriously though, Estranged doesn’t get talked about enough. It might be the funniest video ever.
Klosterman has a pretty good essay on how November Rain, Don’t Cry and a third video I can’t recall were supposed to be a trilogy. But Axl and Seymour broke up somewhere in the middle so the latter video turned into a clusterfuck. Think it was Fargo Rock City.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:00 AM
i think that tour nearly bankrupted GNR. if i recall Axl’s delays and GNR playing last would result in huge overtime fees for the crew, and Axl spent lavishly on backstage parties to impress metallica, who never showed up at the parties.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:00 AM
I saw Skid Row minus Bach in Anaheim a few years back. Easily one of the worst concerts I’ve ever been to.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:00 AM
at least they played with balls isntead of that pussified brand of hoops the magic plays.
/jacks 3
when it catches fire, well nevermind you know the results
September 21st, 2010 at 10:00 AM
damnit…forgot he did aint no sunshine. you win this round, clown.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:01 AM
After the top 5 (Miami, Bos, ATL, Orl, Chi) I think it’s anybody’s guess who the next three teams will be.
Agreed. But let’s say the Cavs play out of their minds. They could make the playoffs.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Anyone ever see G&R in concert?
yep, poplar creek, with aerosmith
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
So, just to be clear. Everyone is assuming Chicago takes the Central?
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
wow.
my worst is allman brothers with that fat fuck warren haynes taking 3/4 of the solo time while duane allman 2.0 played fucking rhythm guitar.
fuck warren haynes.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
That is his only good song only if you’re limited to oldies pop stations.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
After the top 5 (Miami, Bos, ATL, Orl, Chi) I think it’s anybody’s guess who the next three teams will be. And I’m not buying Milwaukee.
Bucks are winning the Central. book it. Fear the Deer
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
No way you actually remember the concert.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:02 AM
I loved the Metallica (ex?)bassist who told the story about the riots in Montreal after James’ hand was melted off by the pyrotechnics Axl just sat there drinking champagne and smoking a cigarette complaining about how his voice was hurting. He made an analogy about Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Saw them @ Deer Creek May ’91. Fantastic.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Anyone ever see G&R in concert?
Was living in Vancouver in the early 2000′s when GNR was supposed to play. At the time I regretted not buying tickets, but then the show was canceled last minute and there was a massive riot.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Klosterman has a pretty good essay on how November Rain, Don’t Cry and a third video I can’t recall were supposed to be a trilogy. But Axl and Seymour broke up somewhere in the middle so the latter video turned into a clusterfuck. Think it was Fargo Rock City.
Nope. It’s Estranged. That was supposed to be their third part.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:04 AM
There it is
i’ll take sweet child o’mine video. know wjhy? cuz it’s a better muthafuckin song! overblown crap is what november rain is, especially compared to their crazy debut album.
/hernia, yer posion just made me meaner
September 21st, 2010 at 10:05 AM
november rain was the epitaph for arena rock.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:05 AM
I loved the Metallica (ex?)bassist
Jason Newsted – other than the Black Album I rarely listen to any post Cliff Burton Metallica.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:06 AM
BTW, watching November Rain and just got to the part where everyone freaks out because it’s raining during the reception…and some guest dives right through the wedding cake.
That’s $1400 asshole!
September 21st, 2010 at 10:06 AM
I had to look her up.
Brainsplosion of the highest magnitude. Get the fuck out of here. Axl Rose used to beat her up. She was the most popular model in the world for a few years in the early 90s. Think Giselle or Lima.
does it really surprise you that this guy didn’t know something?
September 21st, 2010 at 10:06 AM
Nope. It’s Estranged. That was supposed to be their third part.
Ok, was wondering if Estranged was the third video. Fargo Rock City is the Klosterman book.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:06 AM
i don’t care too much for 85% of november rain, but i’m a sucker for the solo, or mostly any solo slash does i’m a sucker for.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:06 AM
i never understood how the black album got so popular. that album is hot garbage.
the best metallica album post-cliff was garage inc.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:07 AM
I just watched the Estranged video. The budget on these had to be insane. And whoever said there were a lot of dolphins earlier… holy shit. It’s Sea World.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Well obviously there’s no correlation between a light tax burden and personal wealth.
/well, I’ve got some work to do, I’ll catch up with you guys later
September 21st, 2010 at 10:08 AM
throw Use Me in there as well. Bill Withers ain’t half bad…
September 21st, 2010 at 10:08 AM
When that old lady is wailing in the background on their cover of Turn the Page it’s creepy as hell.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Aint No Sunshine
i believe the coold kids would type ‘hell to the yeah’
September 21st, 2010 at 10:09 AM
not at all, but he’s not underrated nor the most underrated of the past 40 years.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:09 AM
i never understood how the black album got so popular. that album is hot garbage.
I’ll disagree but admit that what Metallica did was cut their songs’ complexity and make them simple. That plus Bob Rock = radio success.
the best metallica album post-cliff was garage inc.
Except Garage Inc has that whole first CD of stuff that’s much like Load.
Give me …And Justice for All for best post-Burton album.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:09 AM
i never understood how the black album got so popular. that album is hot garbage
I think relative to the earlier stuff you are correct. I don’t mind a couple of the tracks (Wherever I May Roam, Through the Never).
September 21st, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Axl is a really interesting guy to say the least, wildly unbalanced, paranoid, way too self-conscious… hell of a cocktail of shit for a major celebrity. Slash’s book had some great Axl anecdotes of just how crazy he was.
That never fails to crack me up. That’s always my first instinct too. “It’s raining!!!” *dives through cake*
September 21st, 2010 at 10:10 AM
bob rock was the worst thing to happen to metallica, after cliff’s death that is.
death magnetic isn’t my favorite, but it’s good for working out.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Favorite Metallica song will always be Sanitarium.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:11 AM
No way you actually remember the concert.
pieces parts, somm of the show some of the folks i was with
September 21st, 2010 at 10:11 AM
That about sums it up. I don’t blame Metallica for getting sick of playing 9 minute progressive thrash songs insanely fast every night for 8+ years. I do blame them for wanting to play shitty dive bar band music afterwards though.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Favorite Metallica song will always be Sanitarium.
Whiplash or Creeping Death
September 21st, 2010 at 10:12 AM
second’d
September 21st, 2010 at 10:13 AM
I’d take Grandma’s Hands over all of them…prob one of my 20-30 favorite songs of all time.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:13 AM
all three are fantastic choices. i like disposable heroes. master of puppets is fucking awesome.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Master of Puppets never gets old for me. After that, I’d say Disposable Heros or Dyers Eve.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Creeping Death
This. Big time.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:14 AM
I mean, come the fuck on Braylon.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:14 AM
Gotta always love Metallica for their early support of the Paradise Lost documentaries, also.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:14 AM
the best metallica album post-cliff was garage inc.
damn straight. yesterday was a metallica day for me. got the family listening to Kill em All at breakfast time and then did some Master of Puppets while lifting the weights
/Basss solo, take 1 is the best metal instrumental i can think of right now, ever
September 21st, 2010 at 10:14 AM
And Bill Withers Live at Carnegie Hall is def one of the top 10 or so “official” live albums of all.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:14 AM
i like the way you think, st. bear.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:15 AM
I’ll admit to seeing OAR and it being the absolute worst show I’ve ever been to. Terrible live performers.
Does Ohio claim those guys?
September 21st, 2010 at 10:15 AM
the idiocy in college newspapers knows no bounds
if anybody wants to see the cartoon they’re referencing.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:15 AM
Creeping Death is the best live, the solo just destroys. For me, nothing tops Orion and Damage Inc.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:15 AM
they’re from here, but we excommunicated them.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:16 AM
I meant I loved the story from the bassist, not him as a dude. It was on Behind the Music. I’m not a big Metallica head or anything so I have no comment on when or where their best music was. If I had to choose a favorite song of theirs I’d say For Whom The Bell Tolls.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:16 AM
let’s get clear here. garage days, the 5.99 EP is what i’m talkng about—helpless, crach course in brain surgery. not the second one
helpless is the shit
September 21st, 2010 at 10:17 AM
they’re from here, but we excommunicated them.
y’all keep doing it to yaselves ya see!
/Lebron’d
September 21st, 2010 at 10:17 AM
I also need to mention Ride the Lightening and Trapped Under Ice. That’s probably my favorite album.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:18 AM
No diggity, no doubt.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:18 AM
Dead Horse is criminally underrated.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:19 AM
If I had to pick one Metallica album it would be Ride the Lightning.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:19 AM
They did Halloween in Madison a couple years back…Wish I would have spent my five dollars at Wendy’s.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:19 AM
my worst is allman brothers with that fat fuck warren haynes taking 3/4 of the solo time while duane allman 2.0 played fucking rhythm guitar.
Amen.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Until it Sleeps always does it for me when it comes to Metallica. Not sure why. The show I went to in Jan of 2009 is in my top 3. Metropolis Pt. 2 will never be topped, though. STP with Scott Weiland is probably the other.
Pearl Jam is my fave but I’ve seen them 11 times so it’s tough to pick. They did close a show in Chicago with Baba O’Reilly which was really cool.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Oh and Blackened, I got to see that one live. Incredible how friggin fast yet precise these guys could play.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Saw them @ Deer Creek May ‘91. Fantastic.
saw Tom Jones back in the day. lady killer that guy
September 21st, 2010 at 10:20 AM
helpless is the shit
Yes it is.
Although I did like their cover of BOC’s “Astronomy” in Garage Inc, it just felt too long and too much of a jerk-off fest.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:22 AM
was that Newark, Jan 19th, or something like that? i was at that show, damn good time.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:22 AM
this from the guy who claimed he had one good song.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:23 AM
that cracked me the fuck up.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:24 AM
This sucks.
Went to the Allstate here in Chicago. Must’ve been right before the show you went to. Think it was the 16th or something. There was a blizzard here and getting all the way out to Rosemont was a bitch.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:24 AM
saw STP 3 times back in 95-96 when they were in their prime. every show was awesome. used to love that band.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:25 AM
well yall proving me wrong that he had just one good song proves me right that he wasn’t really underrated.
or something.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:25 AM
This is funny. I remember waiting weeks when the local metal station here said they were going to debut the new Metallica song sometime in 1996, the first new material in forever. I’ll never forget the DJs laughing after it was over. “Um, what was THAT?” Disappointment was in the air the next morning at junior high.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Mettle?
September 21st, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Early reports in New Orleans are that Reggie Bush suffered a right fibula break. Out for six weeks, but could be back this season if it’s a clean break.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Why does anyone think Braylon Edwards is going to be suspended? He can only be suspended for this if he was already in the league’s substance abuse program…and I’ve heard or seen nothing to indicate he was.
People just start throwing # of games out there and have zero clue. CBA is very clear on this…no suspension for a 1st offense DUI unless there are injured parties.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:28 AM
ah, ok. thought you were in the NY/NJ area.
the only thing i didn’t like about the show was the 10 second recorded intros to almost every song they played so they could get a breather. can definitely tell they are slowing down, a low. heard Kirk has carpal tunnel, which sucks.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:29 AM
I’m jealous you had a local metal station, weeze. I had to wait for B96 to finish their pop chart crap to get a metal song. Maybe got 1 an hour.
I didn’t care for S&M, by the way. Not sure how everyone else felt about that album. Thought they jumped the shark a little.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Not even under personal conduct policy?
Thought that was weird too, CJ.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Agree, but we wouldn’t know if he was in the program or not until the four game suspension for a second offense.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:31 AM
DUIs are specifically excluded in CBA under personal conduct policy.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:33 AM
Possibly…I’m of the opinion that there are very few secrets these days, and if he was in the program, I suspect we’d know by now.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:33 AM
thought it was alright. i can never fault a band for trying something outside their comfort zone, better than just pushing out the same thing over and over again.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:33 AM
no good metallica after black album
/science
September 21st, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Jay V, what about this? Im sure he’s already on the league’s radar
September 21st, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Saw Metallica on the …And Justice For All tour with The Cult opening at Red Rocks. I thought the crowd might tear Ian Astbury apart and eat him. Never felt that bad for an opening act.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:36 AM
I would kill to be able to go back in time and see Sublime. I fucking love that band.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:37 AM
CJ…unless that incident put him in the substance abuse program, it will have no effect on a suspension.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:37 AM
I didn’t care for S&M, by the way. Not sure how everyone else felt about that album. Thought they jumped the shark a little.
thought it was alright. i can never fault a band for trying something outside their comfort zone, better than just pushing out the same thing over and over again.
I liked the concept. I just thought it leaned too heavily on their post-Black Album stuff, which didn’t lend itself to such orchestral arrangements like their old stuff did.
September 21st, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Really dumb song choices on that one. Nobody in their lives up to that point had ever thought, “I wonder what ‘Of Wolf and Man’ sounds like with a strings section…”
September 21st, 2010 at 1:36 PM
Small towns breed tons of pro athletes
Jimmy “the Greek” Snyder would beg to differ.