Comments on: A Q&A with Chad Millman of ESPN the Magazine

By: Johnny Moss

Johnny Moss — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:43:01 +0000

I say this not as a barb but I had never heard of Chad Millman until reading this.
Good read.

I highly recommend his book, “The Odds: One Season, Three Gamblers, and the Death of Their Las Vegas”.

By: sportsartist

sportsartist — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:08:19 +0000

what a joke! the NFL is the biggest opponent against sports betting but they allow their #1 network to teach sports fans all the things they need to know about betting so they can keep the ratings and the money. check the advertisers on ESPN. they’re all offshore sportsbooks and they charge millions while the NFL works with the DOJ on putting people away for bookmaking. does this make sense?

By: starkweather

starkweather — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:37:57 +0000

I think Klingler eventually made his way onto every NFL team’s roster, so everybody knows how bad he was. I remember Ware as being one of the weirdest prospects ever in that he looked supremely unathletic on the field but was advertised as a great athlete: 4.52 forty, 36″ vertical, so on and so forth. I never knew if that was from the combine or just from the Coogs hype machine

By: ms621

ms621 — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:29:47 +0000

Andre Ware is basically the reason I got interested in the SWC in the first place

I watched him flame out of the CFL too.

UH was basically the college for producing overrated QB’s in the early 90s. If Andre Ware is exhibit A, then David Klingler is exhibit B.

Bengals fans know what I’m talking about.

By: Geeezeus

Geeezeus — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:29:36 +0000

great article.

i need to know who this guy likes this weekend

He typically shows up on a Simmons podcast during the week where he throws out some tidbits.

By: Handfull of Menarky

Handfull of Menarky — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:27:50 +0000

great article.

i need to know who this guy likes this weekend

By: Geeezeus

Geeezeus — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:25:57 +0000

Andre Ware is basically the reason I got interested in the SWC in the first place

I watched him flame out of the CFL too.

By: NDub

NDub — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:24:21 +0000

Where does that public adulation come from?

White QB who’s athletic. Boggles the mind.

I think Locker is average, and has more sucky than good moments.

By: Jim Harbaugh Scramble

Jim Harbaugh Scramble — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:24:16 +0000

Hey, Andre Ware is basically the reason I got interested in the SWC in the first place.

I still have vivid memories of him skipping passes off the Silverdome turf.

By: sportsdork

sportsdork — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:24:08 +0000

To all you gamblers out there. What site do you use?

Bodog

By: sportsdork

sportsdork — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:23:16 +0000

Doesn’t that play to Millman’s other axiom, though? Bet against the public. So waiting and seeing how the line moves should provide ample opportunity for the contrarian.

Absolutely. Those are certainly two distinct strategies.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:22:53 +0000

Hey, Andre Ware is basically the reason I got interested in the SWC in the first place. I was so sure in the summer of 1990 that Beckett Football Card Monthly had pointed me towards the next great NFL QB that I spent the next 7 years defending him as a legitimate talent, even though he didn’t last that long in the league

By: Career High

Career High — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:20:37 +0000

To all you gamblers out there. What site do you use?

By: ms621

ms621 — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:19:53 +0000

And Jack Pardee tried to hang 100 on them in ‘89

Fucking dirty old man Jack Pardee was. And I spit at the TV every time Andre Ware comes on. He’s still proud of the fact that he dropped 96 on a team filled with kids who wouldn’t even be able to walk on at other schools. I hate that prick.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:18:36 +0000

And Jack Pardee tried to hang 100 on them in ’89

By: Wally's World

Wally's World — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:18:18 +0000

This Locker love has just got to stop. UW is still not good and Locker has not progressed like a 4 year QB should, at least one that every media person annoints as the Next .

Part of that is definitely a talent scourge in Husky-land, but that didn’t stop Eli from being the frickin’ man in Oxford his senior season. It also didn’t stop Ben from being unstoppable at Miami University. Countless other examples too.

This is one of the great mysteries of the last 3 years. Where does that public adulation come from?

By: Bottomless Chips

Bottomless Chips — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:17:22 +0000

@sportsdork

Good examples. Doesn’t that play to Millman’s other axiom, though? Bet against the public. So waiting and seeing how the line moves should provide ample opportunity for the contrarian.

By: ms621

ms621 — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:15:25 +0000

ha, I just read about the SMU death penalty. I had no idea that meant they couldnt play for a year and couldnt field a competitive team until the 90s. wow.

Season was canceled in 1987. The NCAA gave the option to SMU of playing their 6 away games in 1988, but no home games. SMU opted not to play in 1988. Players on the ’87 roster were all allowed to leave and be recruited by new schools without having to lose a year of eligibility. They returned in ’89 with almost all freshmen and a few sophomores. They still had a bowl and TV ban for several years after that and Forrest Gregg was only allowed to hire a limited coaching staff. It was brutal.

By: PL StabbinKabin

PL StabbinKabin — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:15:19 +0000

OT:

This documentary is old and from last year, but holy shit, if anything this looks entertaining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q6G_WqLp1w

End OT:

By: starkweather

starkweather — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:13:54 +0000

Both of my 2 favorite NFL Prospect whipping boys are in line to get knocked down a few pegs this weekend: Mallett and Locker