Calvin Johnson and the Going-to-the Ground Rule
Calvin Johnson of the Lions caught what he thought was a game-winning touchdown with less than a minute left Sunday against the Bears. It was an incredible catch, and Johnson came to the ground with the ball in his possession. Officials, to the consternation of football fans everywhere outside of Chicago, ruled the catch incomplete.
The issue in this case is related to the NFL’s interpretation of its going-to-the-ground rule. Before we get to the legalese and “statutory” interpretation of the NFL rulebook, though, I want to ask – after viewing that play, does it look like the type of play that we want to call a catch? We are going to get to the rules in a second, but I happen to think that if a player makes a play like that, it should be a catch. If the rules are either ambiguous to the point that the officials cannot make a proper determination, or do not allow for such a play, then the rules need to be altered to meet common sense.
Now to the rules and what they say, because on something like this, you shouldn’t rely on what experts tell you second hand. You should look to the actual rules. After reading them, I happen to believe the rules on a reception as applied to the Calvin Johnson play are at best ambiguous, and at worst were misapplied as it relates to that play. Here is the rule from the Official 2010 NFL Rulebook as it relates to a catch:
Article 3. Completed or Intercepted Pass. A player who makes a catch may advance
the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if
a player, who is inbounds:(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground;
and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than
his hands.
. . .If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any part of his body
other than his hands to the ground, or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous,
it is not a catch.
That is followed by Item 1:
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground. If a player goes to the ground in the act of
catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control
of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If
he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control,
the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground,
the pass is complete.
And compare that to Item 3, which appears in the same section:
Item 3: End Zone Catches. If a player catches the ball while in the end zone, both
feet must be completely on the ground before losing possession, or the pass is incomplete.
I have several criticisms of this. The NFL makes lots of money, and can afford some good attorneys with legislative drafting experience. Several of these clauses appear to conflict, and several key terms are undefined or are ambiguous. If they are undefined, I think we have to apply as much of a common sense and common usage interpretation as possible. In the Calvin Johnson play, he secured the catch, came down with both feet in the end zone, then was hit by the defender, which caused him to go to the ground, then hit the ground with his back hand (while holding the ball cleanly in the other), then hit the ground with his legs and hip/butt, then swung around with his arm holding the ball, and it was at this point (when he set the ball down with his free hand) that the ball finally came loose.
On the broadcast, Mike Pereira said that the player had to maintain control through the entire act of making the catch. That, though, is not actually what the rule book says. The rule says that the player must maintain control after he touches the ground (it does not say for how long after, which is where reasonable people can differ on this interpretation). Calvin Johnson maintained control after he touched the ground, if you consider touching the ground his other hand and hip/butt making contact. His first contact (well, first non-foot contact) with the ground was simultaneously, his other hand and the side of his hip and butt. At that point, he still had clear control of the football. If you interpret the rule in such a manor, once he made contact on the ground with his hip and did not lose possession as a result of the first hit with the ground, it was a catch.
Alternatively, even if you do not buy my interpretation of “after he touches the ground”, Item 1 and Item 3 are clearly conflicting as specifically applied to this play. If you apply Item 3, it is clearly a touchdown–he had both feet completely down, before losing possession. If you apply Item 1, it is arguably a touchdown, arguably not. But the rules do not say what clause controls in the case of a conflict. Item 3 has to be there for a reason, otherwise it is superfluous and unnecessary to Item 1, which already discusses catches in the end zone.
It’s a shame that the play that the Lions made at the end of that game did not result in a touchdown, because morally, it was a catch. By the rules, I think it should have been too. If the NFL disagrees, they need to more clearly and concisely write the rules.

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September 12th, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Qb controversy in Philly
September 12th, 2010 at 6:59 PM
God hates Detroit
September 12th, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Dumbest. Rule. Ever.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:02 PM
great post. Keep up the good work Mr. Lisk.
short version: lions got fucked.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:06 PM
I love Aaron Rodgers, but that was terrible.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Not sure why GB didn’t just run the ball 3 times right there. You’re up by 10, clock is the eagles biggest enemy.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Joe Buck is falling in love with Vick
September 12th, 2010 at 7:09 PM
My husband is so pissed the Eagles are doing much better with Vick that hes not even watching this
September 12th, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Vick is still an elusive cat, wow, how’d he elude the DT??
September 12th, 2010 at 7:10 PM
i dont get this … why do people still hate Vick?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:10 PM
nice move by Shady Mccoy
September 12th, 2010 at 7:10 PM
wow, McCoy is explosive, just shifted into overdrive
September 12th, 2010 at 7:10 PM
awesome 3rd down defense.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 PM
I hope Kolb enjoyed that half of football he played
September 12th, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Instead of burning the Koran I shall be burning the NFL Rulebook
/Pastor Jones’d
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Oh shit Vick, just run that shit in there.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Vick should have run that … bummer. take the FG, one possession game
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
he should’ve ran it in, had the td all the way. Rookie Vick runs that in
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
@CJ: If Vick were shorter, he’d be giddy.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
why did he throw that ball!? run son, run
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Lovie Smith would go for it here.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Very hard guy to root for, shouldnt be that hard to understand.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:14 PM
another zinger! +7.
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better make this kick akers.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:14 PM
I agree with Collinsworth, not a catch (and either way, much closer than everyone is willing to admit).
also, we are 15 minutes into NFL Football Night in America, and the only highlights we’ve seen from the day in the NFL are Mcnabb’s from last year
September 12th, 2010 at 7:15 PM
derek anderson TD – 17-13 Cards.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Dan Patrick calling all the highlights – definitely missing Olbermann’s witticisms. I enjoyed them together these last few years.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Maybe this is just me, but when I read the the two aspects of a catch in item 1 I understand that as being the “act of a catch.” I would assume the specific Item on “End Zone” catches is because once a catch is made in the end zone the play is over whereas a catch made at the 40-yard line play can continue, which essentially creates a point of distinction between incomplete passes and fumbles after the catch.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Also the last thing Kolb needs is trying to fight another QB for playing time before he really gets a chance
September 12th, 2010 at 7:16 PM
terrible kick coverage. again.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:18 PM
Eagles really can’t tackle.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:19 PM
And Andy Reid is the worst clock manager to ever coach a professional football game.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:19 PM
Also the last thing Kolb needs is trying to fight another QB for playing time before he really gets a chance
You’re right, Vick should start the rest of the season.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:20 PM
The Lions actually tackled today. It was quite impressive.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Also the last thing Kolb needs is trying to fight another QB for playing time before he really gets a chance
Kolb isn’t a victim.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Buck just sounds lost and confused right now.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:21 PM
This is a great post, Jason.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:21 PM
My husband is so pissed the Eagles are doing much better with Vick that hes not even watching this
i dont get this … why do people still hate Vick?
I think its that the Oline blew dick in the 1st half, the D and special teams have been terrible, and the only reason the Eagles are losing is Vick didnt start playing earlier. Saying that, he’s looked pretty good
September 12th, 2010 at 7:21 PM
expect for the two huge busts on Matt Forte, the D looked great. I was in shock.
/Bears really suck though
September 12th, 2010 at 7:23 PM
The ghost of Jim Johnson called that play.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Yes. the poor, poor puppies Vick raped were the real victims.
Seriously, no controversy unless Kolb misses a good amount of time. Kolb is the Eagles future, and one bad first half doesn’t change that.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:24 PM
He is soooo fast.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Vick deserves a shot to start next week if he leads a comeback drive here.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 PM
I love that Vick is saying fuck this shit, let me get these yasds. This is great to watch.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Wow.. Vick is showcasing a bunch right now
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 PM
nice ball security – by vick. held on to that.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Also, I wish they would keep these 60s uniforms the whole season. I like that green so much better than their real ones.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Good to know GB is fucked against a mobile quarterback. What the hell Dom.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Buck can’t even contain himself. “Hold onto the ball!” he yells as Vick scrambles for a first down. What a starfukker.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
I concur. I still thought the Lions would lose until that TD to Megatron. Why the hell did they not throw to him earlier throughout the game? I was screaming about it. Hey! Lets give it to Felton on 1st down! That catch was the happiest moment I can ever remember from Lions football. And you know what? I and every other Lions fan was fucked..raw. That pure joy was just raped and pillaged from our minds…
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Isnt it an advantage to play with a giant club on your hand?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
eagles o-line is not helping out much. block, fools
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
oh and Vicks arm is dead right now.. should be interesting
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 PM
He’s getting happy feet now. Hasn’t attempted a pass on his last 3 dropbacks.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Vick is doing a pretty good impression of Denard Robinson today. A nice poor man’s version, right der.
/still hates Vick from his Falcon days.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
come on Vick, get it done
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Clay Matthews is Vigo from ghostbusters 2. He’s an ugly looking woman.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Hahahaha. No.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
4th and short – gotta let vick run it for the first here.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I feel bad for the lions, that was total fucking bullshit how they lost. Double whammy is that stafford could be out for a few weeks who i think is legit.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Is there any doubt what the play call is on 4th and 1?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Great to see Vick playing like this again
September 12th, 2010 at 7:28 PM
F U.
/cries
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 PM
That club brings back memories of Lloyd Carr allowing balls to be thrown to club-handed tightends and giving club-handed running backs carries.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Isnt it an advantage to play with a giant club on your hand?
If they let you bludgeon people with it, it would be. But he obviously can’t grab anybody. If it was an advantage, everybody would wear two of them, every game.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 PM
I would just run low at a guy, club right into his sack
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Nice write up, fellow Chiefs fan.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Game over. That was fun while it lasted.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
well that’s game, Packers cover
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
With these old school jerseys, I think I’m watching a game of Tecmo Superbowl with QB#7 at the helm. Run the QB sneak! run play 4!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
PACK HOLD!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Vick had a good game.. Matthews just had a better one
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
What a stupid call. Everyone and their mother saw that coming. Nice job, Mornhinweg. This is the pros.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
WHY? WHY run up the middle with a mobile QB? WHY?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Don’t understand why Philly doesn’t go five wide and let Vick be Vick if things break down more than eight yards deep.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Only in the 60′s when Gene Upshaw & Deacon Jones had plaster ones & would concuss a guy on every play when you could club a guy on the side of the head. That’s why so many of those guys have Alzheimer’s
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
what a shitty, transparent play.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Nice call Marty, now hop back on your motorcycle and drive into a brickwall you jack ass
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Stop this. Stop this right now.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
47 total points… unbelievable. Over under was 47.5. Vegas is crazy accurate sometimes.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
And Vick fucks up after a nice day. Clay Matthews is awesome though.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
How could anyone root for Vick?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Oh Matthews, you are so, so ugly.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Mantis – you’re pretty smart for a steelers fan.
Looks like Stafford will be out 2-6 weeks. I hope is okay.
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fucking clay matthews – player of the game
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Yes, let Green Bay and the whole world knows you’re doing a QB sneak. Stupid Philly.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Harbaugh, let’s hope Shoelace saves some of that speed for those Suckeye homos.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Fuck this. i missed my cover by half a point.
Great clock management again Andy Reid, you fat fuckin asshole.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Haha, I love Andy Reid’s timeout/clock management. Stuff of legend.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Does he shave his eyebrows?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:33 PM
lol
September 12th, 2010 at 7:33 PM
and bring Millen and suck Rod Marinelli along for the ride.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Arizona fumbles trying to ice it, St. Louis ball with 1:21 left.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Philadelphia sports-talk radio will return to glory tomorrow.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 PM
NDub – buckeyes are due for a loss against Michigan. would love it if they got Denard’d
September 12th, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Football never ends!!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:35 PM
bad game for Andy Reid.
best NFL stories so far today
1) Calvin Johnson bullshit call
2) QB controversy in Philly
3) Colts getting hammered by Texans
4) Patriots aren’t dead yet
5) Pete Carroll opens by rolling NFC West favorites
September 12th, 2010 at 7:36 PM
6) Randy Moss’ post-game rant
September 12th, 2010 at 7:36 PM
John Lynch is terrible in the booth.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Will anyone in Philly even mention that Roy Oswalt threw a complete game shutout today?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
TBL: Add Randy Moss voicing his frustrations to that.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
why the fuck is Bradford throwing 46 times in a non-blowout? Steven Jackson needs touches.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
/high fives Weeze
September 12th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
7) How in the hell that Eagles LB was allowed back in the game 10 minutes after he facefucked the grass because his brain was scrambled.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Bradford time
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Funny that the 2nd worst clock manager in football is Brad Childress who worked under Andy Reid. The circle of life.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
What was Moss saying after the game?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Play stands, SAM BRADFORD TIME!!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Jersey, what are your thoughts on ND/Michigan? And what’d you think of Montana Jr. playing pretty well after Crist got hurt?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
He’s getting happy feet now. Hasn’t attempted a pass on his last 3 dropbacks.
That’s why teams wont win with “athletic QB’s”. The offense you install & practice to precision is thrown away for exciting runs &throws, but you screw everything else up.
Vick had every rush that half, and scrambled into runs that could have been throws. How many throws did the WR’s get in the 2nd half?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 PM
NDub: I would be shocked if more of a deal wasn’t made about that this week.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Wow.. that was a stupid drop for the St.Louis WR.. anyone watched this whole game, how did Bradford look at there 2day
September 12th, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Who exactly was calling the Patriots dead?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 PM
You’re lucky Mike Tomlin avoided that disease. Damnit I wish the Vikes would have hired him
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Hells bells man. I hate when coaches are in cahoots against my fantasy football team interests.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Deanard owned the d. Plain and simple. I thought they played pretty well, but Denard is a man. Crist > Montana. We need to beat Mich State next week.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 PM
It has to be, Jersey. They’ve made a huge deal about head injuries over the past year or so. They’ve changed rules, made helmets different, etc. to limit them.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
The problem is that people always confuse with exciting for good.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
give this guy some real receivers sheez
September 12th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
+1
Andy Reid not only taught chilly willy how to mismanage games, he also taught Chilly Willy the value of a nice ‘stache.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
The Calvin Johnson play could’ve fucked me in fantasy this week cause I had him going, but I instead got insanely lucky because my opponent BENCHED FOSTER, who put up 41 points.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
He’s actually looked good today. Hard counts that got the defense once or twice, good with pressure, just so many damn drops are killing him. He also took a good hit or two.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Not by any fault of 18. Dude threw for over 400 yards. Arian Foster just had a better game.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Bradford is dancing for some rain
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Yeah, there’s no quarterback controversy in Philly. Even if the Eagles as an organization were stupid enough to base long-term quarterback decisions on one half of football (they aren’t), Andy Reid as a coach might be smart enough to realize that what he had today was the most ideal situation for Vick to succeed. No preparation for him by the opposition whatsoever.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM
LIONS. GOT. FUCKED.
And the saddest thing: William Clay Ford Sr. won’t put down his cigarette long enough to call the NFL office and bitch. No wonder they love his dead ass so much.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Harbaugh, if you’re still here, you got your De-, I mean, Michigan QB #16 jersey?
/ NCAA Compliance’d
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM
The problem is that people always confuse with exciting for good.
Exactly.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Both of these teams are fucking horrid. Seattle might run away with the NFC west with 7 wins.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Very encouraged by the Eagles defense today. Very discouraged by the injuries. Not good.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
OMG! OMG! He DIDN’T get out of bounds!!! They have 2 TOs left and 10 seconds to go. Grow a brain
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
haha – not yet. I think I have 7 michigan jerseys as it is, maybe I’ll pick up the #16 motor city bowl edition if they make it to 6 wins.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
if Sam Bradford can stay healthy he might be pretty damn good.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
this is pretty shitty time management by the rams
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
And wow, awesome job Jason Lisk today. As I was watching this unfold I said to a buddy that I really needed someone informed to write a clear explanation for this nonsense. Excellent job, everything I was hoping for… gotta say, didn’t expect to find it at TBL.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:46 PM
No. If that big pussy is gonna continue to dance, fuck him. If you had to watch that fucker every week you’d understand. He’ll be shitty until the season is over, they’ll be 2-8, then he becomes OK. Runs up numbers (compiler) and everyone looks at them at the end of the season and says “Jackson is pretty good.” Fuck him
September 12th, 2010 at 7:46 PM
They do give him a run play with 10 seconds left on the 50 yard line. Smart.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Scott Hansen must get his meth from Walter White.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Nice clock work by Spagnolo, too.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Welp, looks like Pete Carroll has silenced the critics and made the doubters look like fools.
/dusts hands
September 12th, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Yeah, there’s no quarterback controversy in Philly. Even if the Eagles as an organization were stupid enough to base long-term quarterback decisions on one half of football (they aren’t), Andy Reid as a coach might be smart enough to realize that what he had today was the most ideal situation for Vick to succeed. No preparation for him by the opposition whatsoever
Another exactly.
Most popular guy in a city is the back-up QB. Rob Johnson made about $15 million in the NFL after a good half in a Jags pre-season game
September 12th, 2010 at 7:47 PM
yep. Old Mr. Ford probably doesn’t even know what happened yet.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Name them off. I have one Texas jersey, and I’m hesitant to mention it because it happens to be of the one player who, well, 2005 rose bowl, sorry man.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Fuck William Clay Ford, Sr.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:49 PM
best NFL stories so far today
1) Calvin Johnson bullshit call
2) QB controversy in Philly
3) Colts getting hammered by Texans
4) Patriots aren’t dead yet
5) Pete Carroll opens by rolling NFC West favorites
6) Jason Lisk is good at football blogging.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Friggin Rob Johnson. Remember all the articles about “California guy succeeding in snow country!” before he ever actually succeeded at anything? Hated that guy.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Harbaugh, Woodson, Desmond Howard, Braylon Edwards, Henne Rose Bowl, and 2 crappy steve and barry’s jerseys
September 12th, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Yeah thanks for the thorough explanation Mr. Lisk. I’ll say again, it baffles me that the NFL would have a rule that just plain LOOKS as bad as it does. You’re openly pissing off fans with shit like that.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:52 PM
Still weird hearing Bob Costas talk about PFT.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX2q_eer1g
Lions fan meltdown.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:53 PM
Jags got a first and a fourth for rob johnson I think. Took frd taylor with the 1st rounder.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Feel pretty terrible for Leonard Weaver. Legitimate good guy, doing all sorts of good deeds and generally endearing himself to everyone in Philly the last two years. He was a mess on the field knowing what happened to his knee.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:55 PM
He’s still counting his gold from the Fuhrer…..
/Fuck Ford, thanks for the memories, dick
September 12th, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Is the Harbaugh one THE gameday jersey, or do these get rotated?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:57 PM
I wonder if NBC feels dirty for having such frequent intercourse with Mike Florio.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 PM
Probably not as dirty as you after deflowering one of those young girls in your avatar.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 PM
That commercial was pretty good.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:59 PM
Leonard Weaver torn ACL. Jamaal Jackson torn biceps. Concussions for Kolb and Stew Bradley. Man, this already feels like the lost 2005 season.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Ha! This made me laugh. And Selena is all kinds of 18. She is perfectly legal (and ripe) for the deflowering. Now the other one, she’ll get a Hansen on your ass for sure.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Cry me a river. That offensive coordinator jerk off was the Lions coach in yesteryear….
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Tony Dungy in HD, you know it’s coming but still scares the shit out of you.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:03 PM
You’re a Lions fan? I’ll be in Detroit next weekend. Even a depleted Eagles squad is going to take care of business there.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:04 PM
Costas is capable of much better interviews than this.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:04 PM
dur…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Oh, I’d feel pretty damn good.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Debby Ryan’s 17. Legal just about everywhere.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:06 PM
You MUST be talking about the Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder one, right?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:06 PM
I wish Costas would’ve just kept listing names. “…Eli … Rivers… Rodgers… Romo… Roethlisberger… then I think you’re the very next guy on the list.”
September 12th, 2010 at 8:07 PM
that’s the first time i saw that play all day. lions got screwed.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:08 PM
Alex Flanagan >>>>>>>>> Tiki Barber. Major upgrade.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:08 PM
The resurgence of Vick just points towards a huge bump in Baha Men royalties.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:08 PM
Yeah, but she looks like she’s only 14. I’ll tell you what, that Victoria Justice, when she turns 18, watch out.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 PM
17 is legal here
/expert
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 PM
i don’t think he was as bad of a pro coach as people think.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 PM
He’s better than Dungy
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Well his players at USC got paid like pros, so yeah, he is a good pro coach.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 PM
It’s not like the Eagles will be facing a first string QB or anything.
If StaffDaddy plays, Lions win next week.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Lets see what happens when they face some adversity and lose a couple games. I wonder how his rah-rah act will wear on his players then.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:12 PM
No, but Jesus loves him more.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 PM
Have I been missing out on this name or is this a recent development?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 PM
Que?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 PM
Here’s a good read about Pete Carroll and why/how this second time in the NFL will be better.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:14 PM
I don’t think (and hope) that anyone is crowning their asses. Weird shit happens in week 1, and the first few weeks in general.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:15 PM
I know this is from awhile back, but THIS. It’s not often I agree with old people like jpq.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:15 PM
Dude, Linehan is an abortion. Stafford is all talk as far as I’m concerned. He was awful in the first half. I don’t know what to make of it. If he had any balls he would just say “fuck it im going deep y’all”
September 12th, 2010 at 8:16 PM
That is a outright untruth.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:17 PM
Worst…call…ever.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:17 PM
Jags got a first and a fourth for rob johnson I think. Took frd taylor with the 1st rounder.
1st and a 3rd, then signed him to a ridiculous contract
/not that I’m bitter or anything
September 12th, 2010 at 8:17 PM
What’s a VMA? Some type a dick cheese?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:18 PM
I know this is from awhile back, but THIS. It’s not often I agree with old people like jpq.
thx, tampa. appreciate the love
/that guy’s hilarious!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:19 PM
It is almost time for Faith Hill and the fuck me boots.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 PM
I will never get over how desperate some teams are for QB’s that will will give someone 50 million based on 1/2 a season.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 PM
There really needs to be less Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison on this show. Why do these guys get so much more time now?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 PM
I would publicly and audibly mock someone wearing a number 9 “Cool Brees” or “Summer Brees” jersey.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Best part of Sunday happens in the next 90 seconds.
Hi, Faith.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Most boring person, ever.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 PM
There really needs to be less Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison on this show. Why do these guys get so much more time now?
because no one could understand what the Bus was saying, half the audience hated Olbermann, and everybody hated Tiki
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Faith Hill with the extra open shirt. Awesome.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
She aint even in fuck me boots. what the fuck
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
I think Faith Hill gets younger in HD. She really doesn’t seem to age
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
ooops, there we go.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Poor Tony Dungy, taking a beating tonight.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
God damn, Faith is rockin that dress.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Did the Dolphins sign AJ Feeley to a new contract when they gave up a 2nd rounder for him?
I can understand the desperation. The teams should be desperate for a good QB. It’s the bad player evaluation that kills you.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Oh jeez Faith… holy mother of short skirts.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:24 PM
The new Sunday Night Football song/video with Faith Hill does not show enough Faith Hill.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 PM
No fuck me boots but good god almighty that skirt had to be an inch away from here beaver.
/fuck cris collinsworth
September 12th, 2010 at 8:26 PM
I was practically staring at her vagina because of that dress.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Matt Stafford > me > Shaun Hill
September 12th, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Al Michaels’ hair remains a mystery.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Have any of you guys seen “the legend of old gregg”? It is the weirdest fucking thing i have even seen in my entire life.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 PM
The new Sunday Night Football song/video with Faith Hill does not show enough Faith Hill.
I was practically staring at her vagina because of that dress.
now that I know the set-up, I’m putting a mirror below my TV next week for the HD upskirt
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 PM
LOL at DJ Paul from Three 6 Mafia.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:29 PM
The world would be a better place without gieco commercials.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Also, some good stuff from Charles Robinson at Yahoo.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 PM
I felt like i could finger blast her through my tv with that excellent view in HD. i agree Jersey.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 PM
DJ Paul is a dog, one you do not trust.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:31 PM
It appears Washington has already collectively soiled itself.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:31 PM
They need to do one with “Does Howdy Doodie have wooden balls?” and then never do them again.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:31 PM
I meant quantity, not quality!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:32 PM
You leave your green around me, n#### your green gonna get lit up
You leave your drink around me, believe your drink gonna get drunk up
You leave your girl around me, if she bad, she gonna get stuck
September 12th, 2010 at 8:32 PM
I disagree vehemently.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:33 PM
jpq and PLSK coming strong with the perv comments. Love it
September 12th, 2010 at 8:34 PM
NDub: 8ball’s verse on there is one of my favorite verses ever.
Smoke all night, sleep all day. That to me is the American way.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Romo is really effective, but I’ll never get used to him playing like someone is yelling “FIRE FIRE” almost every passing play.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Roll that shit, light that shit, hit that shit, hold that shit, blow that shit out slow and pass it to me bro
September 12th, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Redskins Def. Coord is Jim Haslett. Skins are fucked.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:36 PM
The most accurate description of Romo ever. Well done, sir. +1.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Love the Skins unis.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Thank you for saying what I was thinking
September 12th, 2010 at 8:37 PM
The cavemen thing was never funny and their new pitch with the slicked hair dude got old really fast. I will admit that I hate all commercials.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:38 PM
My favorite memory of a Jim Haslett coached football team.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 PM
This song was written with Jersey in mind.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Joey Galloway is starting?? Pfffaaaahahah
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 PM
I’m going to need a video of this Faith Hill intro later.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:40 PM
The money staring at you stuff is brilliant, and usually when they have a song playing it is transcendent. The ones featuring the gecko are generally pretty meh, though.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:42 PM
Forget about the tag, throw it in the bag… Sanders just gets me.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:42 PM
That polar bear commercial was horrible. Open a coke and let him live in peace.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:43 PM
How did I miss that Paul Pasqualoni is with the Cowboys now. D-line coach?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Skins doing all sorts of work right now.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Awesome job by Trent Williams there
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Redskins cheerleaders are only beaten by the Cowboys, I think. Snyder certainly pays for some quality talent.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Trent Williams, my God…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 PM
I am really considering watching my Sunday night shows over football tonight.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Trent Williams. Big man doing some work.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Those were the worst but I always say different strokes for different folks.
/fuck the ravens
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Its no arian foster work.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
I’ve said this before, but I love watching both Clinton Portis and Marion Barber block in the passing game. Those guys will light you up.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
The Rams wish they have Trent Wiliams right now instead of an average DE and a shitty, oversized TE.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 PM
all of this right here.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Me too. Especially since my tivo is acting up
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Optimism…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 PM
I will be watching The Glades tonight… Partly to appease the wife. Partly for the enjoyment of Kiele Sanchez.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Lotta Colts hate coming out today. I think people were just holding it in all this time.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:48 PM
A car with a force field–hell yeah, sign me up
September 12th, 2010 at 8:48 PM
I’ll take the Skins cheerleaders over anyone in the league. Honorable mention: Cowboys, Tampa Bay, Philly and Denver.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Sometimes you forget how brilliant the acting was in Broken Arrow. Howie Long’s stellar method acting led to his starring performance in Firestorm.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Mudvayne going to break. Nice.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
I’m just waiting to see who Bill Polian throws under the bus this time. That division is going to be hell for all teams involved.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
It’s great to have football back. But the commercial-kickoff-commercial series is something that annoys me even in week one.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
The dreaded 2 commercial before play starts kickoff…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 PM
To be honest Sanders I like Manning and was upset with the Texans victory but that does not stop me from being an asshole and thus the comment just for you.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:50 PM
add Miami and San Diego and i think you have the cream of the crop.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Give me the Panthers cheerleaders, they are not afraid to make out with each other in a night club bathroom.
/years ago’d
September 12th, 2010 at 8:50 PM
I enjoy his Wilhelm Scream as he plummets to his death.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:51 PM
I am. Rubicon is set on the DVR. Sorry, Will Travers and government conspiracy, it’s opening weekend in the NFL.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:51 PM
/fixed
/cant remember
/drunkard
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Really wasn’t much more Manning could do. 430 yards and three scores while getting hit constantly and your #2 WR has the dropsies. I bet he’s royally pissed right now.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Redskins Def. Coord is Jim Haslett. Skins are fucked.
v4l: I spent my late teens/early 20′s watching Haslett and Fred Smerlas w/ the Bills. Both are legitimately crazy. Haslett was an unbelievable LB tough (Defensive ROY). Sure he was roided up, looking back on the era.
Check this out for a sampling
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 PM
How do you think I feel? Anytime I say someting positive about the steelers, 15 people will say I’m a rapist supporting meth head.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Colts will be fine. Manning still played great, they know now the run defense needs quite a few adjustments. It’s week 1. The Titans played the Raiders and the Jags played the Broncos.
Still like Colts for minimum 10 wins.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:53 PM
sanders – did you see the epic Manning Face on the NFL.com front page today for a while?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:53 PM
1. Abigail Klien, Dallas Cowboys
Bleacher reports have her rated as the NFL’s hottest cheerleader.
Wow, i feel pervy
September 12th, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Truth hurts?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:54 PM
That was a great win by the steelers.
/thats all you get
/rapist
September 12th, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Nothing but lightning quick passes from Romo, you think the Cowboys aren’t scared shitless of how crappy their o-line could be?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:55 PM
London Fletcher just executed a textbook powerbomb on Soy Williams.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:55 PM
roy williams? holy shit. do that.
/he wont
September 12th, 2010 at 8:55 PM
/commences minimum 5 minute Google escapade
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 PM
and yet they are moving the ball with ease.
/redskins indictment
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Googles furiously. Then, realizes that she looks just like Carrie Underwood.
Would that be awkward for Romo?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Well that was a stupid penalty
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 PM
With all that yellow flying around the field on the Skins uniforms I feel like I constantly see flags coming out.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 PM
please take the playcalling away from garrett.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 PM
The Sunday Night Football Extra thingy at NBCSports.com is pretty cool. Just about 15 seconds behind though.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 PM
It wasn’t a penalty though. Tough to get called for roughness when the guy hasn’t hit the ground yet.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:58 PM
I acted like bobby heenan when ric flair won the royal rumble after mendenhall’s TD.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:58 PM
Cowboys should have Bryant run that bubble route a few more times, 3 isn’t enough.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:58 PM
As in, a stupid play by Fletcher, or a bogus call? I lean towards the latter.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Playstation Move?
Wii ripoff with better graphics? Be interested to see what kind of stuff comes out for that…
September 12th, 2010 at 9:00 PM
I think Jason Garrett has bryant in his fantasy league.
/weighted heavily for receptions
September 12th, 2010 at 9:01 PM
BSanders — Noticed you’re not writing here anymore. Why’d you give it up? Enjoyed your stuff.
Unless it was related to the site sale/new brass …
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Shanahan going with the pink lobster fresh out of the steaming pot look tonight instead of the full-on red leather. Nice compliment to the goldy pants.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 PM
well there is your worst case scenario.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 PM
v4l: I spent my late teens/early 20’s watching Haslett and Fred Smerlas w/ the Bills. Both are legitimately crazy. Haslett was an unbelievable LB tough (Defensive ROY). Sure he was roided up, looking back on the era.
Check this out for a sampling
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 PM
He took his talents to Sparty and Friends.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 PM
Your assumption is correct. I’m still doing NFL stuff a couple times a week over at Sparty & Friends.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 PM
should have just lit $$$ on fire instead of bet on the cowboys (-4). how dumb. missed FG
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 PM
THE QUOTE FEATURE HATES ME!!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 PM
“I’m gonna catch him. You hear me? I’m gonna catch him.”
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 PM
29 wins. Phoenix Suns.
/i hold all grudges
September 12th, 2010 at 9:05 PM
All this Haynesworth coverage is nauseating.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:05 PM
are you?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:05 PM
i think hayneworth was crying. haha
September 12th, 2010 at 9:05 PM
Albert Haynesworth is challenging Eli Manning for the body language title right now. I’m waiting for him to start goose stepping around the sideline.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:06 PM
This is why GFs and/or wives shouldn’t be in fantasy football: So we’re sitting on the couch and I mention that I may need a QB and would be interested in acquiring Eli Manning from her for Santana Moss. (She needs a WR, I need a better QB to pair with Joe Flacco) So she says, “Well, can I have Roddy White?” I tell her no and explain she’d have to make a bigger deal with me for someone like that. She then starts the whole, “so there’s nothing I can do to get Roddy White?” thing, culminating, of course, with her saying, “what if I let you sleep with another woman?” I keep going on and on with, “there’s nothing you can offer me to make me trade Roddy White.” She then gets pissy and says, “I’m just playing around. JEsus, can’t you be sweet to me?!”
The lesson here: I’m a fucking idiot.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Ware is getting there. Shannyhan might want to call some boot legs.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:06 PM
I just want him to go away
September 12th, 2010 at 9:07 PM
Nice return, Dez. Just take the ball and run straight ahead as fast as possible.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:07 PM
Your assumption is correct. I’m still doing NFL stuff a couple times a week over at Sparty & Friends.
Ah. Will scope that, then.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 PM
Unless you’re married to Masha Lopatova, that sounds like a trap.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 PM
I wonder if at the 3-D version of Secretariat they hand out bottles of glue?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 PM
dont blame ya. He’s a real piece of work that fat ass is.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 PM
Im not sure if this is sarcastic but a lot of punt returners should do that.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:09 PM
I made it 30 seconds into the VMAs. Can’t do it. Just awful.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:09 PM
actually its elmers flavored popcorn.
/its delicious
September 12th, 2010 at 9:09 PM
my worst NBA prediction for 2009.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:10 PM
I’m a pop culture whore. But even I can’t take the VMA’s these days.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:10 PM
I wont mention it again TBL.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:11 PM
COlts-Giants next week … as a Jets fan, who do you root for?
can’t believe I’m saying this … Giants.
Found myself rooting hard for the Falcons today. basically, i hope everyone in the AFC loses so the jets can get in the playoffs. they’ll need it
September 12th, 2010 at 9:11 PM
These Ray Lewis commercials are ridiculous.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 PM
It’s a shame that Barbaro script is not finished yet.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 PM
Well of course not but they hate of pittsburgh around here is quite over the top.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 PM
I would like to feel the summer brees all over my face, though.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:13 PM
I’m just gonna watch it later this week and wait for Kanye to pimp slap taylor swift with some baby powder.
/play dat shit
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 PM
Shocking.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Summer Wind > Summer Breeze
/Chairman of the board’d
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Sorry bsanders, but TBL is right. Got to root for Manning the younger next week.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Romo’s getting no time back there
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Cowboy’s oline getting worked right now.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:16 PM
As a little brother myself, I always pull for the little brother.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:16 PM
I love everything about this.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:17 PM
My Soul To Take. Hmmmmmmmmmmm
September 12th, 2010 at 9:17 PM
You’re all off my Christmas sweater list. Only JPQ gets one.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:18 PM
saying ok in this instance would put you in the shithouse
September 12th, 2010 at 9:18 PM
chelsea handler can get it
September 12th, 2010 at 9:19 PM
@Lance Briggs Lamorgini from about an hour and half ago
I like to do a rotation. Last time I wore the Harbaugh to Michigan stadium they got curbstumped by Illionois, so that one is now worn with extreme caution. The desmond Howard one probably gets the most play. I also have a Brady ornage bowl jersey so I guess that makes 8, not 7.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:19 PM
Jokes on you, I’m celebrating Kwanzaa this year.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:20 PM
well McNabb is looking decent so far
September 12th, 2010 at 9:20 PM
His bounce pass is still the best in the league.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:20 PM
Cowboys offense looks like shit. their o-line rivals the Lions in terms of suck.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 PM
Psh, whatever. Eryday’s White Boy Day.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 PM
So the question is what Ankle injury
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 PM
I’m just glad my chick has no idea what fantasy football is. And if she ever came over with me and my buddies on game day she would probaly think im a fucking loser and a shithead. She’s already gonna be pissed with me later on, but it’s worth it. She knows Sunday is “me time”
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 PM
Both O-lines look as ugly as advertised. Go Artis Hicks!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 PM
If there’s one thing I’ve learned at TBL over the last two weeks, it’s that Haters Gonna Hate.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 PM
That was great Special Teams to down it at the 1
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 PM
Wow… Sookie is a BITCH.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 PM
I’ll be pulling for the Colts, the Pats will need the Colts ranked as high as possible to help their strength of schedule when they play later this year. BCS or bust this year.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 PM
If the cowboys try to throw it here. I am thinking safety or td redskins.
/please run.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:23 PM
Yep.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that Mcdonald’s commercial.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
WTF is LeBron doing there?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
Abigail Klien, Dallas Cowboys
gotta love Google 3 clicks led me to this poss nsfw
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
speaking of fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck – lebron james.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
LeBron’s at the game. What a fag.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
to be honest. he looks very spry. weight loss will do that. but in all honesty he throws way too many bad passes. completion percentage too low.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 PM
LeBron heel turn is complete, wearing an Obama shirt.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 PM
try again
http://moondogsports.com/2010/01/13/is-that-abigail-kleins-vagine/
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 PM
/jumps up and down waving Colts flag while wearing Colts hat
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 PM
He grew up a cowboys fan.
/and yankee fan
//and bulls fan
///fuck that asshole
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Haynesworth getting owned in there.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 PM
LeBron is a Cowboys fan, is he not? Yankees, Cowfags and Bulls.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Andre Gurode should be able to hit haynesworth however he wants.
sincerely,
Haynesworths boot
September 12th, 2010 at 9:28 PM
Miles Austin still stickin it to Kim K?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:28 PM
Colinsworth wants to fuck Miles Austin.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 PM
That slo-mo Miles Austin muscle shake segment was the gheyest thing NBC’s ever done.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Miles Austin has orange lips. Creeepy.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 PM
yep. and a bucknut as well. terrible choice in teams. fucking frontrunner.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Yep. And well.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:30 PM
Hopefully its not sticking.
/half
September 12th, 2010 at 9:30 PM
I started thinking about John Madden’s penchant for commenting on a guy’s butt, calf, and ankles. I’m sure he would have taken it over the top.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:31 PM
Well Austin is proving that he might not be just a one year wonder so far
September 12th, 2010 at 9:31 PM
/turdducken’d?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:32 PM
For Miles’ sake, he should want it to. I bet she’s worth more than him.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 PM
That wasn’t as gay as when Joe Buck called Tom Brady dreamy.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 PM
I’m not sure about that. He just inked a good deal and if the kardashians are worth more then that then I hope 2012 woody harrelson is correct.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:34 PM
I have to give credit to the writers of Jumper, the teleporting was the only believable thing about the entire plot.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:36 PM
Sad that LeBron wearing Obama shirt in DC is as close as he’ll come to meeting him, while Kobe gets to shake his hand in White House.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:37 PM
I can’t believe Jason Garrett was once a hot coaching candiate. His play calling seems to be completely random.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:37 PM
This.
/but still
/fuck kobe
September 12th, 2010 at 9:37 PM
“Take a deep breath.”
September 12th, 2010 at 9:38 PM
I think he uses gameflow.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:38 PM
I find it highly unlikely that Lebron has not met Obama.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:39 PM
This is truly a horrible movie. Just awful. I’m sure there are some Misha Barton fans here but she’s a poor woman’s Selena Gomez imo.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:39 PM
+1000
I wonder if he regrets not taking a head coach gig then. His stock has really fallen.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:39 PM
Damn. If this was Eagles McNabb there would be no timeouts.
/andy reid’d
September 12th, 2010 at 9:40 PM
It’s all good man, I actually left to run errands, get stuff together for school tomorrow, and make sure I have a few beers in the fridge for mad men tomorrow. I was going to do some studying but I have all day tomorrow, and only a quiz on thursday. Besides it has been a great weekend.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:40 PM
mad men would be tonight, durr.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:40 PM
uhhh rachel bilson.
rachel bilson >selena gomez
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
“And obviously you’re loosey goose because he got it in.”
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Kyle Shanahan eats Fremunda cheese.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
I think you meant Rachel Bilson.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Love Bilson, but no.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:42 PM
You mean Rachel Bilson?
/jumper is a fucking abomination
September 12th, 2010 at 9:42 PM
i am not a fan of either. I think they both resemble rodents.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:42 PM
of course.
texans/colts
astros/cardinals
bilson/gomez
September 12th, 2010 at 9:42 PM
fixed*
September 12th, 2010 at 9:43 PM
I’ll say it again, I love Clinton Portis.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:43 PM
Hopefully Kevin Durant and the USA “B-Team” gets some President time.
/ It is Sunday, please don’t start any political discussions.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 PM
I have had HDTV for just a week now but I have to say that bilson is the prettiest actress I have seen so far
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Isn’t Mike Shannan supposed to be an offensive genius?
Both teams offenses look like absolute shit.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Where am I? What planet is this?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 PM
this message sponsored by cardiologists.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Yeah that one, whatever. She looks like an emaciated harpy. “Hey we have no chemistry and I thought you died years ago but let’s go to Rome and I won’t ask about it until after we get into our hotel room”
September 12th, 2010 at 9:46 PM
Well that bounce rolled nice for Washington
September 12th, 2010 at 9:46 PM
I am highly confused by this current conversation.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:47 PM
Vinny’s uncle is cleaning up in the hot tub.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:47 PM
yeah i didnt get that part either. the whole movie was shitty but that part didnt make any sense
September 12th, 2010 at 9:48 PM
WTF is collinsworth talking about? is he saying the Cowboys have washington right where they want them?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Rachel Bilson is a poor mans selena gomez? What the fuck is that nonsense?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:49 PM
I feel like there’s one on every team now, which inherently creates a disparity between the geniuses and the “super” geniuses, which in turn demotes the regular geniuses back down to clueless play callers.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:49 PM
lot of marisa fucking cooper fans in this house
September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
LOLZ.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
ROFL,
September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
LMAO – Denagelo Hall’d
September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
wow.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
“We can get the original chicks, which are DTF. Or we can get the blondes.”
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck. stupid stupid. fucking stoooooopid.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
HAHAHHAHAHAHA HOW DO YOU LET THAT HAPPEN?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
WOW.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
oops.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Well that was fun
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Did that really just happen… 0 sec left and then Choice just got stripped for the TD
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
DeAngelo Hall has returned to front flips.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
i thought bilson was summer?
/shrugs
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Charlie Weis is one of the super geniuses right?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Good karma coming back around before the end of the half for the ‘Skins after Zorn’s unbelievably wretched twice-tried fake figgie attempt against the Gints last year.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Wade to go, cowboys!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Romo’s an idiot.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:52 PM
And you wonder why so many coaches like to just kneel the ball down and not take chances.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:53 PM
well fucking played.
/die
September 12th, 2010 at 9:53 PM
#lolcowgirls
September 12th, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Great finish to the half for the Cowfags.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:54 PM
I’m still laughing – that was fucking stupid. high risk play that had no reward – no way Choice had any shot at taking that to the house.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:54 PM
What just happened? I want to laugh.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:55 PM
One of them does, but Rachel Bilson as wonder woman will forever give me erections
September 12th, 2010 at 9:55 PM
my bad. Shannan is an offensive Mastermind not an offensive genius.
—
The NBC crew looks a lot different with 3 members instead of 23338 it used to have.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Ha, he Zorn and Billick,
September 12th, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Linda McMahon campaign commercial: She makes a good pitch, but all I can think about while she talks is this.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 PM
I remember four people being the limit. The only time you should have more than four people talking football on TV is if WU-Tang got together and had a pregame show.
/ I’d watch that over any of the current options in a heartbeat
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 PM
dammit – I don’t care about tiny tiny football leauge. I want to see the Calvin Johnson play.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Stephanie McMahon and her fun fags are fun.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Yo, you need to diversify yo play callin’.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:01 PM
oh yeah. and i never liked shane mcmahon.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Zone scheme blockin aint nuttin to fuck wit.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:03 PM
“Mannnnnnnnnnn, FUCK THE PATRIOTS!” – Method Man, as he rolls a blunt
September 12th, 2010 at 10:04 PM
A very Sopranosey ep of Mad Men so far.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:05 PM
This woman has big boobies.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:06 PM
i hope lady gaga tears a knee trying to walk up stage with her stupid fucking costume
September 12th, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Skins TD might ice this game.
Cowboys are fucked.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Is Lady GaGa always drunk?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:10 PM
Fuck LJ.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:11 PM
I don’t know. But I do know that she always looks like a rabbit.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Taylor Swift is assaulting my ears right now
September 12th, 2010 at 10:12 PM
Is Washington going to the Reid School of Clock Management right now, 2 TO this half already
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 PM
I remember when he was a fantasy beast for about 2 seasons. then the wheels feel off hard.
/but I agree fuck him, he went to PSU.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 PM
+1
September 12th, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Is that Don Draper narrating the Mercedes-Benz commercials? Badass.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:14 PM
And just saw the Faith Hill intro for this year, I still prefer last year and the ‘fuck me’ boots.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:14 PM
It was double the fun when Chris Jericho made countless wise cracks over them.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:15 PM
Wow.. Cowboys just keep killing themselves right now
September 12th, 2010 at 10:15 PM
lol – cowboys offsides. mental mistakes killing them
September 12th, 2010 at 10:16 PM
Even teasers are not safe from the Cowboys tonight.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:16 PM
Dallas can just give up now and try again next week.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:17 PM
And now PI on an interception…jeez.
/illegal contact, same thing.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Wow, Cowboys just can’t catch a break right now
September 12th, 2010 at 10:18 PM
I remember one time here we were making up titles for Jim Ross’ autobiography, and I think it was mrejr who won it by suggesting a potential title of “I did NOT touch Stephanie McMahon Helmsley”
September 12th, 2010 at 10:21 PM
gotta make that catch kid.
he drops one then they go to him again against a good corner covering him
/offense mastermind’d
September 12th, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Now a Washington fuck up…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Nothing like two shit teams throwing shit back and forth at each other.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:21 PM
josh BidwelLOL – that sucked. this game is full of fuckups.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:22 PM
After all that, no points lol
September 12th, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Now give Felix some goddamn carries.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:24 PM
New rule should be that you get the points with an opportunity to upgrade.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:24 PM
Has Roy Williams had an opportunity to drop a pass yet?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Damn Don, get it live.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Haha, great timing
September 12th, 2010 at 10:25 PM
lol – ask and you shall receive.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:27 PM
Nice hit by Landry.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:35 PM
That is a interesting formations, the 3 headed monster
September 12th, 2010 at 10:36 PM
MB3′s exuberant celebrations after every time he gains yards makes me think he is on some crazy PED’s.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Red Foreman would be quick to say “That kid’s on dope.” Of course this would be right after he said “I hate the damn Cowboys!”
September 12th, 2010 at 10:40 PM
well – its a ball game now. a shitty game, but a close game.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:41 PM
They are making a big deal with Eminem on the VMA’s is he still relevant? I hardly hear much about him anymore, but then I am not a big rap guy.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Selena Gomez was just on. Shiiiiiiiiit.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:44 PM
They are making a big deal with Eminem on the VMA’s is he still relevant? I hardly hear much about him anymore, but then I am not a big rap guy.He had a new album out this summer. I think his song w/ Rhianna is top of the charts.
/Awesome CD, IMO
September 12th, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Well he does have the number 1 album in the country.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Give her another 10 years to ripen. She still looks like jailbait.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Yes.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:45 PM
or number 1 song i meant to say
September 12th, 2010 at 10:46 PM
Yea, Recovery was way better then anything he has put out in while, my favorite song off it is that Lil Wayne combo he did on it
September 12th, 2010 at 10:46 PM
Apparently DeMarcus Ware is a really nice guy, but he scares the piss out of me.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:47 PM
‘No Love’, yea, that was one of my favorite too. I enjoyed the whole album though.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but apparently I’m not the only one who thinks Calvin Johnson was showboating on that catch, FWIW.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:48 PM
that song is pure fire. another awesome song is the one where he calls himself Slim Roethlisberger.
His best Cd since Marshall Mathers LP. Encore and Relapse were okay – but not the greatest.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:48 PM
I mean I know he’s still a big star, but he’s as hot as he used to be I don’t think.
I just watched the Boondocks episode with Gangstalicious. Is he supposed to be based on 50 Cent or Ja Rule?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Brian Orakpo is a human tank. He also set several weightlifting records at Texas.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 PM
So why did it take till the 4th Qtr for both of these teams to wake up
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 PM
I hate watching MTV, because then I see commercials for whatever season of RW/RR Challenge, and I actually think it’s going to be awesome.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 PM
Eminem also appeared on Airplanes Part II. Really dug that version of the song and then it was overplayed to hell.
rut row on Orakpo being on the ground.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 PM
I can’t believe people actually watch the MTV awards
September 12th, 2010 at 10:51 PM
Urge to kill…rising.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Anyone ever play that video game where 50 Cent goes to like Iraq or something to fight terrorists for gold or something like that? It sounds stupid enough to be interesting.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Victoria Justice is 18 right?
/don’t really care
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 PM
a matthew stafford post is up, for those who care … he’s out 4-6
September 12th, 2010 at 10:54 PM
Dang, Austin is just beasting it right now
September 12th, 2010 at 10:54 PM
Oh yea. you’re the one who compared it to the DeSean Jackson play.
Dumb.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:56 PM
Careful, he’ll just say that the team you root for is equally dumb.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:56 PM
On 2/19/11 she will be.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:57 PM
sucks. back to back 10 game seasons for him. this would have been a good building season for the lions – now I’m thinking maybe 4 wins.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:58 PM
A Simpsons reference. How cute.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:58 PM
Dallas OL is complete dog shit.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Dallas, the object is to go forward, not backwards.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:01 PM
I’m amazed Romo is still standing. Alex Barron is a complete joke and it is even more of a joke that that Bust is on an NFL roster.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:02 PM
I think I can speak for everyone when I say:
SHUT THE FUCK UP KEITH BROOKING
September 12th, 2010 at 11:03 PM
lol, didn’t know William Wallace played for the Cowboys
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Keith Brooking cracks me up. I’m gonna try that with everyone that sits around me at work tomorrow.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 PM
I love watching Portis bowing up big boys in the hole. Looked like he almost knocked out William Wallace there.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 PM
well knocked his own self out rather.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:06 PM
What is so hard about understanding both players cost themselves touchdowns by showboating? Hand the ball to the official and there’s no debate.
I’m glad you all are so damn witty, insightful, and spot on with all your comments and opinions, and I’m sure you all fall asleep every night on a pile of money surrounded by beautiful women.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:06 PM
these offenses are terrible.
this game is even worse.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:08 PM
The cowboys making it to the SB is absolutely 1000% laughable.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:10 PM
You press that button, Kayne!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:10 PM
There should be a word censor that adds “even though it’s Week 1″ to the end of every comment.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:12 PM
demarcus ware down.
damn have there been a lot of injuries today.
/hope he is okay
September 12th, 2010 at 11:12 PM
‘Assholes’ is okay to say on tv now?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:12 PM
This whole game has to be Jerrah’s worst nightmare now.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Did y’all know the SB is in the JerryDome this year, and that if the Cowboys win the SB, it would be the first time a team has ever won it in their own stadium?!?!?
/ESPN’d
September 12th, 2010 at 11:16 PM
Have we created a new meme in honor of ESPN running something in the ground?
/Jerrah Dome’d
September 12th, 2010 at 11:16 PM
That shit was horrible. Love Pusha though
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 PM
Way to go LJ, go out of bounds as you’re trying to end the game.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 PM
Not on a real network.
But seriously, cable’s rules are much more relaxed, so you can get away with more there than on broadcast TV. Look at South Park, there are very few words that get censored on that show anymore.
A lot of it is also self censorship.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:18 PM
You don’t take a timeout there because then the Redskins have no problem throwing the ball on 3rd down, Al Michaels.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:20 PM
anything on comedy central or fx is pretty liberal with the language.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:21 PM
rook with the false start – ouch.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:22 PM
offensive mastermind’d
—–
I can’t believe he made that kick./
September 12th, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Pretty dumb call to try a field goal there but he made it so “whatever” as Al Michaels would say.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:22 PM
1 . I love this rule
2. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA we win.
3. sorry detroit i hope win every game except for when you play the bears again
4. Lovie smith is goddamn moron
5. If forte is back to his rookie form we will be alright.
6. fuck the vikings and packers
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 PM
The fuck episode is a fantastic F You to the FCC. Watch south park on WB or any of the channels that air reruns, and even late at night they censor the original version
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 PM
“Alex Barron has to make plays.” Every Cowboys fan just threw up in their mouths.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Fuck. Cowboys are coming back to win this game.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:27 PM
haha. Look at the ball Austin you retard.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:27 PM
another great lol – wide out jumps the snap.
what a game.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Not if miles austin has anything to say about it. Offside on a WR is terrible
September 12th, 2010 at 11:28 PM
tick tick tick – they lost a shit ton of time there.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:28 PM
so the cowboys have seriously fucked themselves this entire game.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:28 PM
Great episode, but Imaginationland is the shows finest hour.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:28 PM
Do they save a TO for the unjury
September 12th, 2010 at 11:29 PM
That sucks for the Redskins, Dallas gets to keep their 2nd timeout.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:30 PM
so romo throws deep to a go surrounded by 4 redskins – nice.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Man got me 30 points in fantasy today.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:30 PM
That is 2 back to back should be picks
September 12th, 2010 at 11:31 PM
4th down – ball game. Time for Alex BArron to step up.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Tony Romo is too old to be making these rookie mistakes
September 12th, 2010 at 11:31 PM
I would love to meet the person who thought the Jerry Jones/Daniel Snyder commercial was a good idea.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:31 PM
fuck me.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:32 PM
busted coverage – what the hell was that. Best WR was wide open.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Blown Coverage .. how is Austin of all people not covered
September 12th, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Leave Miles Austin wide open down the middle on 4th and 10…another lol moment for you, JHS.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:33 PM
that episode(s) had its moments, but overall I wasn’t a fan. Nor was I a fan of the large gerbil episode, nor the lice one either. I’m not a fan of when they go to crazy outside the normal characters. I did like the pan peruvian flute episode however. It seems now there 2-3 good episodes per mini season, where as a couple years ago it was 7 out of 7. Its to be expected though, 13 seasons of that show is a lot.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:33 PM
Dallas has only 2 more plays max left, should be interesting
September 12th, 2010 at 11:34 PM
and this is game right here.. Hero or Goat?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:34 PM
Yakety Sax needs to be the music for this game’s “highlight” film.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:34 PM
why not use a time out?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:34 PM
Hail to the ‘Skins
September 12th, 2010 at 11:35 PM
This has incomplete pass, but PI on Washington written all over it.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
LOL – this game brings it.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
hahahahahahah!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Or complete, and a hold…whichever.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Hahahaaaa Alex Barron! Baaahhahaha
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
OHHH…Messed up play.. game can’t end on a penalty though?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Dallas just demonstrated EXACTLY why they’re going 8-8 this year.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
game over. lol moment again to end the game. Nothing like ending a shitty sunday of bets and fantasy to an awesome cowboy loss. see ya’ll tomorrow.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
A fantastic ending to such a well-played game.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
dirt just killed himself on that Alex barron play
/pours one out for dirt
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
wow, and dallas finds a new way to lose. They’re going to win no more than 9 games this year, if that. The giants didn’t play great, but from what I saw today the Gmen could have this wrapped up easy
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
Alex Barron – haaaaaaaaahahahahaah – how bad can one man be?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
nevermind… it did.. and that was a proper ending of the game, close game that was sloppy till the end
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 PM
@ReaderM: game can’t end on a defensive penalty
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HA.
/cowboys suck.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 PM
Can’t end on a defensive penalty, ReaderM.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 PM
“im not sure alex barron is on the team when the plane lands”
well played, collinsworth
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 PM
Outstanding officiating.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:39 PM
Great episode, but Imaginationland is the shows finest hour.
Should’ve been a movie.
Alex Barron – haaaaaaaaahahahahaah – how bad can one man be?
Dear Alex, you can’t keep costing your teams with stupid penalties. They WILL cut your sorry ass.
Sincerely,
Wayne Gandy
September 12th, 2010 at 11:39 PM
That’s being generous for a team with no O-line. 7-9 at best, but I’m hoping 6-10.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:40 PM
“im not sure alex barron is on the team when the plane lands”
one can only hope.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:40 PM
IT’S WEEK ONE!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:40 PM
Flozell Adams calls bullshit.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:41 PM
dirt just killed himself on that Alex barron play
/pours one out for dirt
good lord that was awful. The guy gave zip effort tonight. The only time I saw him try hard was when he put that hat on just exactly crooked for the intros. What a colossal piece of shit.
They’ve got one other healthy tackle. They should have benched this asshole in the first half.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:42 PM
You’re lucky this happened in Week 1 and got it out of the way, dirt. Imagine if this happens in Nov or Dec
September 12th, 2010 at 11:44 PM
Oh no, be assured it WILL happen in Nov or Dec. They have more than one dud in them
September 12th, 2010 at 11:44 PM
The Dallas Cowboys, now with zip.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:44 PM
/fixed
September 12th, 2010 at 11:45 PM
I meant with Barron specifically but you’re probably right anyway.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:45 PM
The only time I saw him try hard was when he put that hat on just exactly crooked for the intros. What a colossal piece of shit.
it’s amazing how many of these clowns have ZERO football smarts. None.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:47 PM
I would sell my soul to have McNabb on my team right about now. I’m gonna think about that every time I see him play. We shoulda gotten him.
It was awesome hearing “Satisfaction” on Mad Men tonight.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:49 PM
OK, I don’t feel like sitting around talking about this. Dallas sucks, Alex Barron is awful, their O line is their biggest problem. 88 looked pretty good, and 94 nearly made me cry when he didn’t get up. I’m exhausted from screaming at my television. And that end of the first half debacle goes about 60-40 on Romo. Just heave it or go down, don’t back flip it.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:49 PM
I kinda think that’s a flawed rule in the NFL in those instances, Dallas didn’t hold to delay the game and stop the clock – which is the point of that rule. So if the penalty is accepted (which it obviously would have been), why doesn’t Dallas get another crack at it?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:50 PM
you can’t say “but its week 1″, they all count the same. From what I saw, dallas is the same old team, philly has a QB situation on their hands and the skins are impotent as always. None of this is new, its been discussed al summer, but now theres proof.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:50 PM
oh, and if there’s 3 backs total in the NFL Keith Brooking can keep up with, I’d be shocked.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:51 PM
Romo looks more and more like Dave Krieg every day
September 12th, 2010 at 11:51 PM
I love watching the cowboys lose. I fucking hate that team. I hate everything about them.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:51 PM
I kinda think that’s a flawed rule in the NFL in those instances, Dallas didn’t hold to delay the game and stop the clock – which is the point of that rule. So if the penalty is accepted (which it obviously would have been), why doesn’t Dallas get another crack at it?
because the clock ran out. Why would they get another shot if the clock ran out?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:53 PM
I kinda think that’s a flawed rule in the NFL in those instances
you seem to be of the opinion that every rule you don’t like is flawed. You wanted a prior rule in this game changed to your liking, too.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:53 PM
Because then you have situations where linemen, or any player is commiting a penalty to keep the game going, and them a chance to win. Even if you take the 10 or 15 yd penalty, you still have a chance to win, so why not take the penalty and regroup?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:53 PM
I guess i just don’t like that penalty works differently there. Any other time, you get another play, I’ve never really thought about the time factor I guess, it’s not like there’s no such thing as an untimed down right?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:54 PM
OK, I don’t feel like sitting around talking about this
maybe that guy from Canada can come on again and talk about how the Cowboys beating The Saints in the Dome isn’t a great win if it wasn’t by 90 points
/need your TBLAD membership card to know about this
September 12th, 2010 at 11:54 PM
Isn’t that how it works in life, if I don’t like policies and I’m a legislator, I would attempt to change them (although I have no such clout obviously, and probably a good thing).
September 12th, 2010 at 11:57 PM
And does anyone really think McNabb knew the game ended on that hold? He didn’t even know the overtime rule.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Not really, and especially not if you’re not in a position to make decisions or changes. This isn’t a democracy, its an NFLocracy
September 12th, 2010 at 11:58 PM
And does anyone really think McNabb knew the game ended on that hold? He didn’t even know the overtime rule.
this one would come up way, way more often than that one. That other one has only come up twice in the past decade. This one I’m sure has come up far more often.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Clay, I was being facetious with the McNabb jab.
But I’m serious about the other one, a false start, I can understand the 10 second run off. Not a holding on a TD play. That’s a bad rule IMO.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:01 AM
anyway, if you get another shot, even from 10 yards back, on an untimed down, you really haven’t been fully penalized.
They use untimed downs for defensive penalties at the end of halves/games because there’s no other option. It would be stupid to give the offense another chance. If the rule was the way you’re intimating you think the rule should be, it would need to be changed.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:02 AM
That’s a bad rule IMO.
your opinion is woefully wrong. What if the penalty was offensive pass interference? What if it was a leg whip, or tripping?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:02 AM
you have a good point.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Sweet, Comcast Chicago is showing “The Sportswriters on TV”
September 13th, 2010 at 12:05 AM
B/c you don’t like it? Isn’t that you took a shot at me for to being with? At least be consistent. It’s just my opinion on a rule. The spirit of the rule is misapplied in situations like these. The whole point is to protect against the offensive team intentionally committing a penalty to stop the clock, but in these situations, a legit holding penalty is treated completely different from the rest of the game. I’ve had a problem with it every since they instituted the run-off.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Besides Clay, that’s why they have a competition committee. Rules are changed every year b/c people don’t like the way they’re either interpreted or carried out.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:07 AM
The whole point is to protect against the offensive team intentionally committing a penalty to stop the clock, but in these situations, a legit holding penalty is treated completely different from the rest of the game.
there is no time on the clock. Think. How can the offensive team run a play when there is no time on the clock? Think. You’re wrong, not the rule.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:07 AM
Precisely. It’s allows the offensive team, for lack of a better term, a “get out of jail free card”. Sure, they get a 10yd penalty, but they still have a chance. At the end of the game, with 3 seconds left, unless the offensive team loses it’s “chance”, via a penalty on the defense, the play has to be final. Think about a 20 yd hail mary, what if the receiver drags down a defender to stop an interception? The play has to end the game if the offensive team has a fair (or better) chance.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Isn’t that you took a shot at me for to being with?
this is not a well constructed sentence.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Offensive teams run plays all the time with no time on the clock, it’s called an untimed down. They exist. Don’t say they don’t
Where we ultimately disagree is the extent of the penalty. But not on the no time remaining part.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:11 AM
I think the rule is to prevent an OL from tackling a DE with a clear shot at the QB and getting another chance. Or a covered WR from throwing the DB out of the way, catching the ball (and giving the team another shot at the win).
Groundhog Day is on – love this movie
September 13th, 2010 at 12:12 AM
alright keyboard warrior, you obviously knew what I said.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:13 AM
Tom Jackson. “For the sake of their Franchise, the Texans had to beat the Colts.” Week 1 hyperbole at its finest
September 13th, 2010 at 12:14 AM
Offensive teams run plays all the time with no time on the clock, it’s called an untimed down. They exist. Don’t say they don’t
all the time, they do it? There’s untimed downs going on all the time? No, that’s dumb.
Name a circumstance, other than defensive penalty, where there’s an untimed down. I can only think of 1, and it’s not an offensive penalty.
You don’t really have a quality argument here, nor a clear understanding of the purpose of the rule in the first place.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:14 AM
Very well good be another component; however, as we saw on that last play – that’s not why the end was held. So if that was the spirit of the rule, it’s misapplied in instances such as these.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:15 AM
Don’t call him clay. Call him Dirt. Because god made Dirt. And Dirt don’t hurt.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:16 AM
I understand the rule just fine. You just don’t disagree with my take on it. Just move on then, or we’ll end up regurgitating the same arguments and not getting anywhere. Or just criticize grammatical constructions, b/c that’s where winning arguments go to die.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:17 AM
I agree Cursed but do you want the Refs to make a judgment call? The hold wasn’t near as bad as Collinsworth made it seem. Or maybe after he described it, I was expecting much worse
September 13th, 2010 at 12:17 AM
you keep saying the spirit of the rule. Here’s the spirit of this particular rule. Football games are finite. They end. You don’t keep getting chances. The 10 second runoff penalizes you for penalties committed late in games, because the game is finite. It ends. If the clock runs out and you aren’t winning, you lose. That’s the spirit of the rule.
Otherwise, you contrive to make penalties once you realize you haven’t succeeded in winning, and try again.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:17 AM
wrong. Even if there was no run off the game would be over. No timeouts and the clock would be started up again, you wouldnt get time put back on the clock for the penalty.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:19 AM
you keep saying the spirit of the rule.
Cursed: scroll up & look at this post
September 13th, 2010 at 12:19 AM
The hold wasn’t near as bad as Collinsworth made it seem.
Orakpo beat him horribly on the first step. He doesn’t give a fuck, but he didn’t want Romo to get sacked, because he didn’t want to lose the game. So he held on. I don’t know why Barber wasn’t chipping him to start with.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:20 AM
Are you sure? Because your argument says otherwise.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:21 AM
I guess I’m comparing it to the rest of the game. There’s always a trade-off with penalties. Defensive team chooses to accept of they don’t, with consequences either way. Seems like it’s completely one-sided at the end of the game. It’s almost as if Dallas lost yardage and the down, which isn’t what happens with holding penalties.
I get that there’s no time left on the clock, but it just seems like it’s a much steeper penalty. I’ve never liked this rule.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Are you sure? Because your argument says otherwise.
he has taken a position, and because in his own mind he’s incapable of being wrong, he’s sticking to that position.
His position has no merit, because it overlooks ironclad facts about football.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:22 AM
There was no time on the clock after the play was ran. Do you put 4 seconds back on because a teams’ offensive lineman decides this is a good time to try a ‘Rock Bottom’?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:22 AM
Cursed is wrong. I love the guy. But the game is over. Some fool can’t hold someone else to extend the game. Come on, now.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:23 AM
I get that there’s no time left on the clock,
then how do you expect them to run a play? the game is over. That’s a rule you must agree with. When there is no time on the clock, the game ends. The referee blows his whistle, and the players shake hands.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:24 AM
The hold wasn’t near as bad as Collinsworth made it seem.
Dude. He had his fucking arm wrapped around Orapko’s neck. That’s textbook. That wasn’t just a hold. It was the hold to end all holds. If ever a holding penalty should’ve been called, that was it.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:25 AM
I hate the NFL interpretation of pass interference.
and the Tuck rule
and that bullshit that happened to Megatron today.
The time running out thing on offensive penalties doesn’t crack my top 10.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:26 AM
Again, me not agreeing with the rule is completely different from not understanding it. I hate NFL’s overtime rule, doesn’t mean I don’t get it or why it is what it is.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:26 AM
Come on, cursed. Don’t fuck yourself over. I’m counting on you come Basketball season. When we get our rings and raise another banner.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:27 AM
You can’t do anything different, this was not a run-off scenario. Time for one play if he doesn’t hold QB sack game ova no TD. Held time expires TD. They put Dallas back into the position they would have been if the penalty didn’t happen IMO.
/No re-dos
//shouldn’t try for a hail mary shuffle pass before half Romo
September 13th, 2010 at 12:27 AM
The NFL Network show on needs a little “diversity” on their panel right now. They have Fran Charles, Mooch, then Sapp, Deion, & Irvin banging that Vick MUST be the QB. Irvin said that Kolb, in his 1.5 QTRS, lost the team through his terrible play.
These 3 are fucking clowns. All they will do is be shills for their boys all year.
/getoffmylawn
September 13th, 2010 at 12:28 AM
The time running out thing on offensive penalties doesn’t crack my top 10.
it’s a good rule. It helps keep games finite.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:28 AM
Except that it doesn’t always in the NFL, refer back to the untimed downs discussion. We allow them sometimes (for good reason), and I’m arguing that this might be in instance where it could be applied as well.
I feel like you guys think I’m going to go on some murdering spree b/c of this rule that I don’t like, it’s just an honest disagreement. And Mak is right, this won’t ultimately isn’t that big of a deal (sudden death OT is way, way worse).
September 13th, 2010 at 12:29 AM
The hold wasn’t near as bad as Collinsworth made it seem.
Dude. He had his fucking arm wrapped around Orapko’s neck. That’s textbook. That wasn’t just a hold. It was the hold to end all holds. If ever a holding penalty should’ve been called, that was it.
agree. if he doesn’t hold him, he sacks Romo before he even throws the ball
September 13th, 2010 at 12:29 AM
Who else thinks Shanahan looks like Roger Sterling right before he puked up oyesters, gin, and cheesecake? A heart attack waiting to happen.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:30 AM
Wow, didn’t expect to take this kind of a beating over this! Kobe/LeBron maybe, but not this.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:30 AM
It would never be a good instance is the point I think people are trying to make.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:30 AM
And that guy is a jackass anyway. Anyone who wears a visor is suspect in my book.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:31 AM
Kobe>Lebron? I’d buy that.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:32 AM
Wow, didn’t expect to take this kind of a beating over this!
because you don’t know what you’re talking about, and I am not in the mood to suffer fools.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:32 AM
So who likes Ohio State?!?! Go Bucks!
September 13th, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Jim McMahon is a saint.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Wow, didn’t expect to take this kind of a beating over this! Kobe/LeBron maybe, but not this.
Well, when your wrong, your wrong. And you’re gonna get called out on it here. And the Kobe/Lebron debate is dead. The bastard is a Yankee and Cowboy fan. I’m not sure, but I think that’s the definition of “soulless douche bag”. Especially since he’s from fucking Ohio. And he totally pussied out going to Miami.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:33 AM
its not the ret of the game, its the final play of the game. There is no more game after that play. Dallas can’t just go getting penalized every time their play with 3 seconds left and down 6 points doesn’t go as planned. They get ONE chance, they blew it.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:33 AM
I didn’t say he didn’t hold him. Collinsworth said he put two arms around him and tackled him. He held him, put his arm around his neck and held him again, then let him go. I wouldn’t say he tackled him.
Not worth arguing about. I never said it wasn’t a hold. It just wasn’t what Collinsworth described is all
September 13th, 2010 at 12:34 AM
You’re right, you guys just have this complete and utter mastery over run-offs at the end of the game, the type of nuanced understanding that would make my masters-educated head explode. I should just stick to pedestrian topics like bio-medical sciences.
/actually just broadcast journalism
September 13th, 2010 at 12:36 AM
Time expired, so no time left to run off.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:36 AM
over run-offs at the end of the game,
you don’t even know what you’re arguing. There was no runoff.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:38 AM
Again, you guys don’t detect sarcasm well (this is becoming worse than a deadspin comment section, probably why I’ve taken so much time off).
September 13th, 2010 at 12:38 AM
So who likes Ohio State?!?! Go Bucks!
Dude, like, 2 guys here like Ohio St. And they’re both bastards.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:39 AM
Ballz, you’re not a fan of Spence?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:40 AM
probably why I’ve taken so much time off
you weren’t missed. Feel free to stay gone.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:40 AM
masters-educated head explode.
I have some merit badges, too. I’m most proud of the know un-tying one.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Again, you guys don’t detect sarcasm well
the old “it was a joke” defense. I’m familiar with this move.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:41 AM
You’re just missing a fundamental part of life and sports, consequences. If you hold at the end of the game, you don’t get a chance to win. If you hold at 7:48 in the second quarter, you get penalized 10 yards. Consequences I believe, are taught far earlier than graduate school.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Taken out of context? Maybe, Maybe not. Staying as far away from cursed as possible to be on the safe side.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Clay, my god you take internet arguments a little too seriously (you even called out grammar, that’s weak sauce dude, very weak). Have fun with it once in a while.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Ballz, you’re not a fan of Spence?
Spence is awesome. But, he’s a bastard. So am I. I’d hang out with him. I don’t have to agree with everyone. JPQ and Dirt have had it out with me many times, and they’re prolly my favorite commenters on here. I don’t care about disagreements.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Getting the TD removed and 10 yards is pretty significant in the ole’ consequences department don’t you think?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:44 AM
It’s best not to argue with Dirt this soon after a cowboys loss……
you weren’t missed. Feel free to stay gone.
…this is pretty cold. Keep coming back, cursed. We love you around here.
WARNING: this is the “royal ‘WE’. So act accordingly.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:44 AM
This is not the even close to being a true statement
September 13th, 2010 at 12:44 AM
Clay, my god you take internet arguments a little too seriously (you even called out grammar, that’s weak sauce dude, very weak). Have fun with it once in a while.
admit you’re wrong when you’re wrong. And I didn’t call you out on your grammar, I called you out because you jumbled words in a pompous sentence you were trying to construct.
In this instance you aren’t even arguing what you think you’re arguing, but either way you’re wrong. Simply wrong. All you had to do was admit it when you realized it, half an hour ago.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Not when you also get the benefit of another chance at winning the game, no I call that a smart play and so would 32 NFL coaches, and 160 O Linemen too
September 13th, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Not if the consequence of not committing a choke hold is a sack and ballgame.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:46 AM
My entire twitter account is jokes. I used to write satire. I’ve done stand up comedy (in very small rooms). Sorry if you don’t detect when I’m joking, but that probably has more to do with your sensibilities than anything else. You didn’t even pick up on my obvious sarcasm with the McNabb observation. And why am I even talking to someone who critiqued grammar at 12:30 in the morning on what amounts to a message board.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:46 AM
Read this whole thing, just glad I didn’t get involved when I wanted to.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:46 AM
I wish I had some god-damned weed. The Niners got their fucking asses kicked by the Pete Carrol Seahawks for fucks sake.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:47 AM
But that happens on all penalties. Say if I held a reciever on one side while another player on my team ran and interception back for a touchdown in the same play.
No TD for the defense.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:47 AM
He’s having so much fun out there though
September 13th, 2010 at 12:47 AM
And why am I even talking to someone who critiqued grammar at 12:30 in the morning on what amounts to a message board.
because when you tried to drive to a bar, your breathalyzer machine wouldn’t let you. So you’re stuck at home.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:47 AM
that’s your whole problem. Everything is not black and white. Me agreeing or disagreeing with an existing NFL rule is not right or wrong. Just like me not thinking the overtime rule is a good one cannot possibly be right or wrong. Get it?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:49 AM
(this is becoming worse than a deadspin comment section, probably why I’ve taken so much time off).
No. No, it isn’t. Again, I like you and all. You just started an un-winnable argument. Just trust me on this. I’ve been around the block a few times.
/Steve Young is better than Dan Marino.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Everything is not black and white.
yeah, but this is not everything. This is one specific black and white thing. You’re wrong, and you want it to be your opinion. The truth, though, is that what you think is incorrect.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:50 AM
He’s having so much fun out there though
I never thought I’d hate Pete Carrol this much. Now I really hate him. And if you think I took that quote from Tombstone, you are very WRONG.
/Ignignot’d
September 13th, 2010 at 12:50 AM
But the run-off rule was not in effect. You essentially are arguing for an untimed down rule that does not and should not ever exist.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:51 AM
troof. He has a ring.
also truth. Good college try, tho.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:52 AM
Just don’t critique grammar. I mean, come on.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:52 AM
I’d buy it.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:53 AM
YES. Someone gets it. I want it to exist, that’s the point. Have you guys not been reading my argument? I have a problem with the current rule. I think the penalty is too steep in those situations. I think the Cowboys should have been penalized like any other normal situation, and received another down. Were you guys not reading my arguments? For all the shit talking you were doing, it seems like you weren’t.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:54 AM
They hate your argument because it is silly.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:55 AM
If it wasn’t for college tries, I woulda stopped commenting 11 months ago. Imagine how much y’alls life would suck if that happened!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 12:56 AM
I think the Cowboys should have been penalized like any other normal situation, and received another down.
You have to first concede that a holding penalty is assessed without regard to time. In the course of regular game play, if a hold occurs, the offensive team is penalized 10 yards (from the spot, or the LOS) and they replay the down. They don’t, however, put time back on the clock. That time is gone. It isn’t reinstated.
So the way this rule works is similar. The penalty happened, and the referee could walk the ball back 10 yards and spot it, but then there would be no time left on the clock. The time that elapsed during that play did in fact run off the clock.
That’s not an additional penalty. That’s just the referee saving himself 10 long steps.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:56 AM
That’s fine if they think it’s silly. I don’t think the rules of all the sports are perfect. I’m sure the overtime rule seems pretty silly to people. I’m sure the designated hitter is silly. I’m sure civil rights seemed silly at some point.
Stuff is not black and white, and I always try to steer clear of people who have that mindset.
/yep, went there.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:57 AM
I think I would’ve been okay, really.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:57 AM
I read your arguments perfectly fine, thank you very much.
Time ran out. were the refs supposed to pretend that the four seconds didn’t run off the clock just because an offensive lineman didn’t want his qb sacked?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:57 AM
TBL totally e-mailed me to carry this thing to 700, mission almost accomplished.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:57 AM
I’d buy it.
Well, I was selling it around last February. Then TBL asked the commenters who they hated most, hoping to trap Miz in a corner. Instead, my name was brought up about 900 times. It was actually pretty glorious.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:58 AM
I’m sure the overtime rule seems pretty silly to people.
you continue to want this to be a part of your current argument. It is not.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:58 AM
You paint with a broad brush.
/I used the word silly because it sounds silly
//asinine would have worked
September 13th, 2010 at 12:59 AM
You didn’t like the civil rights example. You’re clearly a racist.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:59 AM
if a hold occurs, the offensive team is penalized 10 yards (from the spot, or the LOS) and they replay the down. They don’t, however, put time back on the clock. That time is gone. It isn’t reinstated.
So the way this rule works is similar. The penalty happened, and the referee could walk the ball back 10 yards and spot it, but then there would be no time left on the clock. The time that elapsed during that play did in fact run off the clock.
This.
I think I would’ve been okay, really.
Shaddup.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:00 AM
it doesn’t even matter if you admit your wrong. Anybody who reads this (and god save their souls if they do) will see just how wrong you are.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:01 AM
you’re, not your
September 13th, 2010 at 1:02 AM
If you’re arguing the “ten second runoff rule”, that’s a different animal. And I agree with that one too, because it was put in to stop offensive people from blatantly cheating the clock.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:02 AM
Cursed, If even I am fore-square against you, it’s time to give up the ghost, brutha. I need you in good standing come basketball season. Please stop this.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:02 AM
I was here. I didn’t vote, that stuff is Deadspin level.
Also, you are a big Beatles fan so you get lifetime pass, I don’t care if I disagree about everything else with a person if we have that then I’m good.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:02 AM
Nobody does. The point is you like all the terrible rules and try to fix ones that don’t need to be fixed, so everyone thinks you’re an idiot. But shit, I probably haven’t been in grad school as long as you have.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:03 AM
No shit. Usually it’s nice to read the late-night threads for some laughs, but sometimes it’s just soul crushing.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:04 AM
I believe this. I’m leaving because this post better not beat the Saints Thursday night post in number of comments. That night was for the victims of Katrina!
September 13th, 2010 at 1:04 AM
The point is you like all the terrible rules and try to fix ones that don’t need to be fixed, so everyone thinks you’re an idiot.
he thinks playoffs are inherently bad, because they only award the teams that qualify for the playoffs and then win those playoff games, instead of teams who had a great season.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Ballz, here’s one that we can debate another time, I think the NBA needs the 1-and-1, for maybe fouls 4-6 in a quarter. Would make the game far more exciting/add a ton of drama to the game.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:05 AM
No shit. Usually it’s nice to read the late-night threads for some laughs, but sometimes it’s just soul crushing.
I’m only still here because I already know I can’t sleep. I want to find out Alex Barron’s address and send him an envelope full of my poop.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:06 AM
Yep, can’t stand last-man standing format in football. Anyone can beat anyone any day, we know this in sports. But again, that’s just my opinion, there are many different ways to crown a champion really. College baseball/basketball/football all do it drastically different.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:06 AM
I wasn’t mentioned at all, most liked or hated.
/bastards
September 13th, 2010 at 1:06 AM
oh, I was belittling you, not allowing you to change the subject.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Tough for a Browns fan that Derek Anderson and Kellen Winslow are both 1-0. Even worse if Braylon’s Jets win tomorrow.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:09 AM
You pointing out that I don’t like a particular champion determinate is belittling? Wow, consider my tail between my proverbial legs.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:11 AM
you have an actual tail, but proverbial legs?
September 13th, 2010 at 1:12 AM
now see, that was much better clay
September 13th, 2010 at 1:13 AM
I’ll wholly admit I’m not a college baseball fan (I do like baseball though), but the entire playoff format seems so bizarre and confusing to me. I suppose its like explaining european soccer to people
September 13th, 2010 at 1:13 AM
i’m done with you.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:16 AM
I’ll just screw up some grammatical construction, you’ll be back for more, that’s your wheelhouse right? You’re crutch?
September 13th, 2010 at 1:16 AM
I hope you get the irony in that last one.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:21 AM
I like the 1 and 1 rule, cursed. I’d be commenting more frequently, but I have a little kitten. And he gets jealous of my keyboard.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:24 AM
Also, you are a big Beatles fan so you get lifetime pass, I don’t care if I disagree about everything else with a person if we have that then I’m good.
You need to start showing up earlier, Sallie Mae.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:24 AM
I hate all of you, but mostly cursed for this.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:25 AM
jackie brown is better than pulp fiction IMO.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:28 AM
jackie brown is better than pulp fiction IMO.
Wow, homie. Settle down. Jackie Brown is good and all, but come on. Pulp Fiction is one of the All Time Greats.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:34 AM
Sam’s facial hair and Pony tail put it over the top for me.
Pulp Fiction does have the RINNNNGs (oscar).
September 13th, 2010 at 1:35 AM
Also, Michael Keaton should be in more movies and he was the best Batman.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:37 AM
Love Johnny Dangerously (watched that the other night), ignoring the Batman part.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:39 AM
Kilmer? Bale is good, the voice is terrible.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:40 AM
Wow, I didn’t realize there were other people who have watched Johnny Dangerously. I wonder what happened to Joe Piscippo (sp)
September 13th, 2010 at 1:41 AM
You’re right about that, Sallie. There needs to be a Ray Nicollette movie. I’ve said that many times on here. Out of Sight and Jackie Brown aren’t enough.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:43 AM
Yes, Keaton was the best Batman. And Clean and Sober was scary good (for me, at least). Keaton is the man.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:49 AM
Watched it once 5 years ago, and loved it. Joe Piscopo is doing standup still I think.
September 13th, 2010 at 2:35 AM
So, I’m supposed to wait a year until Entourage starts again because the cops found a bag of coke that wouldn’t even make JPQ sneeze??? Alright, fine.
September 13th, 2010 at 2:58 AM
Jackie Brown didn’t have the gimp, advantage: JB.
September 13th, 2010 at 3:42 AM
Far more interested in ari and mrs. ari
September 18th, 2010 at 1:08 AM
An interesting analysis, and for the most part I agree with your conclusions about the rules per the rule book. But I do have some contentions about your description of the play itself. You say:
I do not believe this is actually what happened. Specifically I do not believe Johnson was touched at all, and if he was it was only a very slight glance by the defenders hand near the ball before they had landed and possibly with his helmet just as they had landed (though neither is conclusive, in the replays I’ve seen the rear angle from behind the end zone is a better view and makes it look as though they never did touch at all). Moreover, I do not think it was any contact that caused Johnson to fall but it was him pivoting away from the defender, to his backside while bracing himself for the fall with his left hand. He then actually raises his butt off of the ground while swinging his right arm across his body and slamming the ball to the ground. This to me is a clear second act of rising up off of the ground and replays show that neither knee is on the ground at the time the ball dribbles away from his right hand.
But getting back to the contact, it is a salient and pertinent point for a few reasons. As the broadcasters pointed out to Mike Pereira in the booth, since he first came down on two feet with possession in the end zone no contact is needed by a defender to be “down” (per rule 8.1.3 item 3), but even more importantly is a bit of information I found in a video posted by Larry Mayer of Chicagobears.com, ironically trying to defend the call and the use of the “going to the ground” item. Here is a link to the video:
http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/multimediapopup.asp?mm_file_id=2013&play_clip=Y&rn=10
In it he tries – unsuccessfully – to compare this play to two in which Bears players were “robbed”. One did look like a legitimate catch and blown call, though it was completely unrelated to the Johnson play. The other one is a fake punt play from 2008 in which Brad Maynard throws a pass to Adrian Peterson. Aside from it looking like a good call since Peterson did not catch the ball cleanly and was fighting for possession with a defender on the way to the ground, here is what caught my attention; at about the 3:35 mark of the video Chris Collinsworth talks about the going to the ground rule and how it is determined. Here is what he says:
Looking at this statement it would seem to be clear that Johnson’s catch should never have been (re)viewed through the lens of “going to the ground” to begin with, since he was not hit prior to getting both feet down, in addition to being in the end zone. And of course this does not even take into account the initiation of a second act, which would seem obvious (else how did he manage to get his rear off the ground?).
Each of these things individually would make the call a bad one, but taken together they show a colossal misinterpretation of the rules and a misapplication of the “going to the ground rule”. The result is one of the worst blown calls we have seen since last season (hey, it’s the NFL).