Brett Favre and His Receivers Need Some Work
The story from last night’s Saints 14, Vikings 9 season opener was Brett Favre’s absolute inability to connect with his wide receivers – primarily Percy Harvin and Bernard Berrian – with Sidney Rice out injured. The basic stats tell enough of the story, with Harvin at one catch for 12 yards and Berrian at one catch for 3 yards.
I went back and charted Favre’s passes, and he was only 4-for-12 on targets to all wide receivers, with the pass to Camarillo that went exactly 20 yards in the air being the longest completion to a wide receiver. His two longest completions (in terms of air yards traveled) were the back-to-back strikes down the seam to Shiancoe that created the Vikings’ only touchdown. He was 5-for-6 in passes that were in the air less than 3 yards from the line of scrimmage, but completed less than half is passes beyond 3 yards. He spoiled everyone with how he played right away last year after barely participating in camp, but this year, he looked uncomfortable throwing to the receivers not named Rice.
I have some concerns about this passing offense early, and its going to be a slow start for Minnesota if they don’t get the downfield passing to improve.
Other notes from last night’s game:
- Early in the game, NBC ran a graphic in regard to Adrian Peterson’s fumbles. I suppose the purpose was to say that Adrian Peterson will improve his fumbling. It was a classic case of selective multiple endpoints and cherry picking. Eric Dickerson had 49 fumbles in his first four years, and only 29 in his last seven. Thurman Thomas fumbled 39 times in his first six seasons, but only 11 times in his last seven years. Tiki Barber had 44 fumbles in his first seven seasons, and it went down to nine over his last three. The problem, of course, is that NBC selectively picked three different cutoffs for three different specifically selected players to make the best case. You pick the first six seasons for Thomas for because he had only one fumble in his 7th season. Both Dickerson and Thomas also hung around for four years each as part-time players, so part of the fumble decline had to do with them playing less. Dickerson did improve his fumbling, but had 10 fumbles in his final season as a starter. I wrote about the overall decline in fumbling rates for running backs a few years ago, and I don’t know if running backs get better at ball security as they age. I’ll put it on the to do list, but graphics like these that do not have consistency drive me crazy.
- Ryan Longwell missed an extra point following the Vikings touchdown. Misses like that always come back to haunt the team, right? As it turns out, it had no impact on the outcome of this particular game, as the Vikings would have still needed a touchdown to win. You may be surprised to know that teams missing at least 1 extra point in a game from 2002-2009 went 59-32-1. Only 4 times (4%) did a team missing an extra point in the last 8 years actually lose the game by a single point; the last one was, incidentally, when the Packers lost 17-16 against Tampa Bay in 2005 when Ryan Longwell missed an extra point.

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September 10th, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Sweet
shovelchest pass by Old Man Balls last night.September 10th, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Those two kickers fucked Vegas to hell last night.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Could’ve just listened to Mike & Mike this morning and saved yourself the time since they discussed this exact stat.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Good stuff, newb. That is a good stat and one that definitely goes against conventional wisdom.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:52 AM
A pretty meh football game ended in a push for most of the betters…seems fitting
And I was to understand that the Ol’ Gunslinger didn’t need training camp in order to be ready to play
September 10th, 2010 at 9:52 AM
Favre has got to stop throwing short, late and across the middle. His picks should easily double this season.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:53 AM
With Farvin missing most of TC ~ 1/2 of preseason and Harvin missing even more time, I thought they might have some chemistry issues. Was it just me or did some of Favre’s passes seem to lose some of that trademark velocity last night as the game went on, seemed really noticeable in the 4th QT.. also good post btw Lisk
September 10th, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Man, TBL, why couldnt you have hired this guy a few weeks ago? Loving all the NFL stuff.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Did Dickerson, Thomas and Barber have comparable fumble numbers at the same point in their careers as Peterson is? Or are they just picking three random guys who have similar rushing numbers/games played/etc.?
September 10th, 2010 at 9:54 AM
This guy is good. Good hire, Jason.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Eric Dickerson was a motherfucker.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Gawrsh did some some of his stuff look rusty last night. Only four passes, I think, can you say he really looked strong on, and three of them were the same pattern.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:56 AM
agreed…good stuff, rook. now where are the krispy kremes?
September 10th, 2010 at 9:56 AM
Checkdown Charlie’s not getting it done this season…65 yards after halftime I thought I saw, only the Florida Gators are impressed by that output
September 10th, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Those two kickers fucked Vegas to hell last night.
This. Big time.
September 10th, 2010 at 9:58 AM
He’s here to write, not get you goddamn donuts
/Dez Bryant’d
September 10th, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Some of us lost by half a fucking point.
/bitter
September 10th, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Man, TBL, why couldnt you have hired this guy a few weeks ago? Loving all the NFL stuff..
truth. But I would have settled for crappy NFL previews. TBL just made no effort to make August shorter.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:00 AM
the last one was, incidentally, when the Packers lost 17-16 against Tampa Bay in 2005 when Ryan Longwell missed an extra point.
The best missed PAT I recall was Jags vs. Saints River City Relay, where the Saints ran back a kick with all kinds of laterals and then Carney missed the PAT to tie the game. Think this was 2003.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Viking and Colt fans are probably wondering where that Garret Hartley was last season…couple of real bad shanks
The Saints receivers didn’t look that much better, dropping shit left and right…that game should have been a rout
September 10th, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Or, he could have kept the guy who was really good at this, *ahem* bsanders *ahem*… just kidding.
/or am I?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Is this really something that can be empirically proven?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:01 AM
It was a classic case of selective multiple endpoints and cherry picking.
what about that stupid stat where Brees to Meachum was the only perfect QB to Receiver combo in league history, and to further that point, Meachum drops a couple of on target balls.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:02 AM
Jay and Kristin?? Stafford’s GF doing a beer bong?? HELLOOO???
September 10th, 2010 at 10:03 AM
I recall a particularly painful one in Atlanta.
/sorry Bills guys
September 10th, 2010 at 10:03 AM
So, after two homes games vs Miami and Detroit the Vikes have @NYJ, DAL, @GB, and @NE – all w/o Sid. Wow.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Is this really something that can be empirically proven?
I’m sure you could come up with a pretty simple fumbles/touch ratio if you felt like doing a lot of math, and if you did that over several seasons, across several players (say top 20 rushers for every season extrapolated for every year they play) and start in 1976, you could end up with a lot of worthless data, and an argument nobody would care about.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Minnesota’s offense doesn’t look much better than the Bears. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
September 10th, 2010 at 10:04 AM
in his defense…that girl was really, really good looking
September 10th, 2010 at 10:04 AM
He pulled that stuff last year 2,that’s how TB got their first win, off a 30 yard shank.. honestly say those kicks in the playoffs were the really the only thing that saved his job this year.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
But he knew how to RAM IT.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
Can we at least agree on this. Drew Brees looked fucking DEADLY last night.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
I puked everywhere. QB Rating has gotta be the worst creation in stats history.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
Pretty sure Dickerson would still top the list and the Colts would still give him a franchise-crippling contract after he’d already hit the wall.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
the saints play by pkay guys were great after that…something like “HOW COULD YOU DOOO THAT?!??!!?”
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
agreed…good stuff, rook. now where are the krispy kremes?
make him carry yer spradsheets and then tape him to the keyboard
September 10th, 2010 at 10:05 AM
Careful. Let’s not yuck it up yet. We lose to the Lions this weekend and there’s going to be people jumping from buildings.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
I’m shocked that tossin the pigskin at the local high school (/wrangler’d) doesnt prepare you for an NFL game.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
If we get posts like this throughout football season, I’ll be quite happy.
Good work newbie.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
Favre looked old last night. Really old.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
it’s a long season! (also, you’ll like his analysis of the Brady contract)
finally, i did something right!
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
The best missed PAT I recall was Jags vs. Saints River City Relay, where the Saints ran back a kick with all kinds of laterals and then Carney missed the PAT to tie the game. Think this was 2003.
that was a well coached team with a really smart QB.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:06 AM
Easy now, Sunday hasn’t come yet…if diabetes doesn’t claim a limb from Jay Cutler Suh just might
September 10th, 2010 at 10:07 AM
I said it last night but it’s scary how much he resembles Manning in the pre-snap reads, changes and mannerisms.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:07 AM
seems like a lot
September 10th, 2010 at 10:07 AM
the saints play by pkay guys were great after that…something like “HOW COULD YOU DOOO THAT?!??!!?”
Here is a link to the last play. My mistake it was a pass, not a kick return.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Thurmanator was great. Barry Sanders learned from the best
good game last night. good recap
September 10th, 2010 at 10:07 AM
On the two drives where the Vikings got on pressure he looked fantastic. Other than that he was checking it here, checking it there, checking every muddafuckinwhere!
September 10th, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Well, that and start this website.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:08 AM
I bet it will be good, but I won’t like it.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:08 AM
This new guy sucks.
/contrarian
//also false
September 10th, 2010 at 10:08 AM
We lose to the Lions this weekend and there’s going to be people jumping from buildings.
cept me–i have lions in survival pool
September 10th, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Agreed Jersey, Brees showed great pocket poise last night and moving the ball like crazy at times, honestly was surprised it was so close a game from the way it seemed Brees was playing.. the Saints O when they actual starting making some of those catches is going to be just as deadly as always
September 10th, 2010 at 10:09 AM
looks like someone has been on the jump to conclusions mat early this morning.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Lombardi said last night he thinks Brady’s agent and the Pats should have written an escalator into his contract that has it matching Manning’s as soon as he signs. Dick. Measuring.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:09 AM
And make me the Personal Music Adviser to the Editor-In-Chief. How’s the ipod coming?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:09 AM
who needs a running game?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:10 AM
Pretty sure Dickerson would still top the list and the Colts would still give him a franchise-crippling contract after he’d already hit the wall.
that’s one of the wackiest trades I can ever remember. I dont’ think there’s a single player in the league right now you could trade for 3 number 1 picks. And, somehow Buffalo got Bennett out of that deal.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:10 AM
That’s why I thought it was funny about Payton’s “brilliance” in saying if they pressured Favre in the NFC Title Game he’d crack…he know this from watching his guy in practice?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:10 AM
There’s a new guy? You didn’t hire the Asian golf chick????
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Peterson has 20 through three seasons and one game. Unless Peterson fumbles 29 times this season, he’s nowhere near Dickerson.
Peterson will have to average about six fumbles in this season and the next two to equal Thomas’s 39, and six fumbles in this season and the next three to reach Barber.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
WHAT THE FUCK?
jersey, that maroon 5 loving asshole is the music advisor?!?!?!
there’s no justice…
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Man that would be ghey.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
why is lisk not listed with all the other writers?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
That’s how the offense is built. Terrible Vikings secondary notwithstanding, a couple of those deep throws were built off of Brees running sets where he had the same dinks and dunks completed out of. Lot of asleep dbs last night.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 AM
The Steeds managed to fleece the Bears for 2 #1 picks for that fat fucking diabetic interception machine.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:12 AM
good god I have 800 emails from the CBS sports pick em. Think 400 of them are from guys named Adam
September 10th, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Can we at least agree on this. Drew Brees looked fucking DEADLY last night.
he’s usually better than that. Lotsa checkdowns, and one really bad one that didn’t get picked off.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:12 AM
that’s one of the wackiest trades I can ever remember.
wackier than the herschelk walker and ricky williams trades? or just as?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:13 AM
TBL wants fun music, not metal and GNr 24/7. Go shit and dip.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:13 AM
escalator into his contract that has it matching Manning’s as soon as he signs.
Is that even possible under the CBA? Giving a rival team the ability to impact you salary structure would be an awful idea.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:14 AM
why is lisk not listed with all the other writers?
90 day probation period. benefits, sunkist, and such after
September 10th, 2010 at 10:14 AM
I would love for someone to ask Boomer Esiason what he meant when he said the rumored terms of the contract were “embarassing”. He’s only going to be the highest paid* player in the league, Boomer.
*Until Manning signs
September 10th, 2010 at 10:14 AM
Also going to go ahead and say this Tannenbaum character that everyone loves to pee all over could probably be fleeced for 3 numbers one picks. Just trade him a quarterback.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:14 AM
@blazers- instructions in the roundup on how to turn that off. thanks for signing up
September 10th, 2010 at 10:15 AM
How dare he use “I” and not “We”
September 10th, 2010 at 10:16 AM
actually, I dont mind. kind of entertaining
September 10th, 2010 at 10:16 AM
The Jets don’t give that up for Rodgers?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Nope. Gonna need more d-linemen and some right side o-linemen in the future.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:19 AM
The Jets don’t give that up for Rodgers?
well, that deal’s never coming down. I”ll rephrase what I said, to better illustrate what I meant. I can’t imagine a scenario where anybody could be worth that much and be available.
Of course Dickerson quit the Rams publicly, and demanded that trade, so there’s no way he was worth that much. It was a bad deal.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:21 AM
there is nothing fun about kenny chesney or his music.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
he is very fun
/miz
September 10th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Fact: I haven’t sent him one Chesney song.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
The Saints playcalling was a little off last night I really wondered why they didn’t run the ball at all during the first half. Their best drive in the second half was the one they actually ran the ball.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
i guess someone took Green catching Dickerson off youtube? bullocks
September 10th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Alternatively, Mike & Mike could have waited to hear from me.
Oh, I’m definitely doing it now.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
And why not? Get him into Zac Brown.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
You just copy and paste the American Top 40 list every week, don’t you?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Oh, what a difference a year makes…
September 10th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
I think they just picked the 3 biggest names with a lot of fumbles.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Haha, naw. I’m just trying to help homie out. When it takes you about a year to hear “I’m in Miami bitch” but you like the song, it calls for a Musical Adviser.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
I didn’t want him Gerard. I was happy running into Orton at the local bars and not Cutler. Sure I was on board when it happened but prior to the trade, it was a DOES NOT WANT scenario for me.
We’ll trade you Cutler for Tebow and those picks back. How ’bout it?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
I like this guy.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Husain Abdullah played pretty well for the Vikings. I believe he was still observing Ramadan, I couldn’t imagine playing football, or any sport for that matter, without food or water.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Well… just so you know. Some of us aren’t math people and will need a detailed breakdown with pretty colors, shiny objects and bits and pieces of the RedZone channel.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
if the RU pics continue to be the worst option available, i’d rather have a song/video of the day
September 10th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Ramadan ended at sundown last night. I was picturing him at Cici’s just stacking trays of pizza after the game last night.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
That was a fantasic paragraph. Overall a good read, Lisk is off to a nice start.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
trying to figure out who is who on the email chain through comments is also kind of fun
September 10th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
There wasn’t a person in Denver who wanted to see Cutler leave, but now that he’s gone it’s like we all woke up from the same nightmare at the same time.
His magic pick-sie dust wore off, evidently. Although Lightbulb Head Clayton still has a little on him.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Feisty yet hasn’t dropped an “idiot commenters” line like Huffy Puffy Duffy…good stuff
September 10th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Because the past 6 months has been one big ego hand job to Paytons brilliance and Brees talents. And it got them 7 whole points throwing every play.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Husain Abdullah played pretty well for the Vikings. I believe he was still observing Ramadan, I couldn’t imagine playing football, or any sport for that matter, without food or water.
he would have been allowed to have water during the game, and food before the game, as it was already dark. But yeah, it’s a much bigger sacrifice than eating fish sandwiches for lunch on Fridays and giving up gay sex for a month.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Ramadan ended at sundown last night. But yeah, what a story with that guy and his brother.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:31 AM
trying to figure out who is who on the email chain through comments is also kind of fun
you got spencer, right?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:32 AM
Hehe, I approve.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:32 AM
I was picturing him at Cici’s just stacking trays of pizza after the game last night.
Ha, accompanied by a 2-litre of Mountain Dew, followed shortly by intense vomiting.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
I was happy with the Saints D, and I agreed that every Vikings receiver not named Sidney Rice is not nearly on the same page with Favre and/or can’t run routes for shit.
But I can’t believe that people still can’t figure out Payton play-calling. Basically, whatever you think he’s gonna do, he does the opposite. And he almost coached himself out of a win last night with the “he can’t really call a pass for the 15th play in a row, can he?” strategy. And nobody should have been surprised when he came out in that first drive in the second half and ran the ball down the Vikings’ throat, but they apparently were.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Near jinx on that first sentence.
Man, Cici’s freakin’ rules. So many Spring Break 11 a.m.s spent there pigging out to soak up the previous night’s indulgences, and setting a base for day drinking.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
We call ‘em LITERS here in ‘Merica.
/spits
September 10th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
I’ve figured out all but like two people so far. Granted, I knew who most were before.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
God, I hope this is just a Michigan defect thing.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Original.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
can shiancoes’ dong be a WR option for farve?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Most fumbles by RB through age 25: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny/6PbEh
Walter Payton had 42 by age 25. Dickerson only one from that graphic in top 10 in fumbles by age 25.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
But yeah, it’s a much bigger sacrifice than eating fish sandwiches for lunch on Fridays and giving up gay sex for a month.
+1 candelabra
September 10th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
spencer, jersey, and st. bear. all pretty simple. lol
September 10th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Better than me. I’ve figured out maybe half
September 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Maroon 5 FTW!!
/Reply All
September 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Knowing a guy very well from those Cowpoke this is false.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Ty you forgot to make your week 1 picks
September 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Look, this is not exactly a new development either. See my previous comment. I am grateful to Payton for everything he gave us, but he outthinks himself. 2006 for example. In the playoff game against the Eagles, Deuce McAllister was unstoppable. So the next week they go to Chicago in the cold, wind, and snow, and he runs the ball like 10 times, because “they’re not expecting us to throw the ball.” I like being unconvental, but sometimes he crosses the line into insanity.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
The pizza isn’t that good. It’s more the idea of it. Buffet for like $5. Plus, like I said, it was a great option after a night of drinking and a good base for day drinking at Spring Break. I’ve never eaten Cici’s outside of PCB.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
New guy is shitting on Walter Payton. I no longer like him.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Apparently, Comment #61 was completely overlooked by anyone talking fumbles in this post.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
jersey…you and me are gonna have words in iowa city, lawya. WORDS.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
We call ‘em LITERS here in ‘Merica.
Metric system FTW.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
I’ve figured out all but like two people so far. Granted, I knew who most were before.
Better than me. I’ve figured out maybe half
what a wankathon
September 10th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Are we speaking via the Subway Fresh Take hotline? I’ll be drinking Manhattans with Hernia in the Bronx that day.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Going to be having words with yourself, since I’m pretty sure he’s not going to be there.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
New guy is shitting on Walter Payton. I no longer like him.
not really. He’s just pointing out a bigger name that didn’t get shit on last night, so that NBC could make their not so relevant point. The ball is just so much less likely to be on the ground now that it’s a big deal that Peterson fumbles so much.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
He’s going to the faggy ND/Army game that day. I hear they will be giving free HIV tests to anyone in Irish gear prior to the game.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:42 AM
in that case then yes, we will be speaking via the subway fresh take hotline.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
the saijts won. wtf cares about the details in a game that came across like preseason game #5? no style points bruthas and sistas
September 10th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
SC: Just come out and say it, you are pissed because you wanted to be bunk buddies in the uhaul.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
by “bunk buddies” im sure SC meant “butt buddies”…
if you catch my drift.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
ND/Army game
tough opponent. That’s almost a home game for Army, too. The fighting Irish are really taking a chance on that one.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
I love Walter Payton. Dude had so many awesome games with guys like Vince Evans and Steve Fuller at QB. I was pointing that out to suggest that if NBC was looking for a big name, well, that’s about as big as it gets. My guess is they found 3 guys that had alot of fumbles but a random flukey season in the middle (or in Barber’s case, late) where they didn’t have any, and went with em.
Forgive me. Taking offensive line and supporting cast into account, I have Payton #1 in my all-time RB rankings.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Exactly. The sky is not falling. The Saints are still serious contenders. They beat the 2nd-best team in the NFC again last night. This wasn’t against the Rams. And for all the problems the Saints had on offense (FUCKING DROPPED PASSES!) and special teams, the defense was oustanding and much improved. Everybody up the middle of the Saints defense (Ellis, Vilma, Harper, and Jenkins) were amazing. And the Saints defense was supposed to be the weakness.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Oh, I’m such a pushover. I can’t stay mad at the new guy.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
@ Irish
Am I done for the week, or can I still pick Sunday’s games?
If I’m done consider that your head start for the year!!
September 10th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Does it bother you that much?
September 10th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Glad I’m not going to be in Clown’s van… poor Horonzy.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
clown is a gentle
loverrapist.September 10th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’s yanking your chain (no homo), and you’re responding.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Look, this is not exactly a new development either. See my previous comment. I am grateful to Payton for everything he gave us, but he outthinks himself. 2006 for example. In the playoff game against the Eagles, Deuce McAllister was unstoppable. So the next week they go to Chicago in the cold, wind, and snow, and he runs the ball like 10 times, because “they’re not expecting us to throw the ball.” I like being unconvental, but sometimes he crosses the line into insanity.
Agreed
September 10th, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Yeah! It’s ALMOST as bad as ranked teams putting a 1AA team on their schedule. And we all know that doesnt happen, amirite?
/wanking motion
September 10th, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Does it bother you that much?
nah. I just like fucking with you during football season, because you are the most defensive guy here about your college and pro teams. You’re a completely different guy.
But seriously, Army sucks badly, and they have almost no $$$ dedicated to sports. They’re light years behind Air Force and Navy in their commitment to athletics, and they should just move into 1-AA. They couldn’t beat half the Ivy League.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:51 AM
I mean, isn’t that how it normally works. Everyone’s favorite things to rip on in this order: 1.) ND 2.) The Catholic Church. The first one is stale. The second one, I find kind of offensive.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
You forgot 3. Kenny Chesney.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
huh?
my favorite things to rip on, in this order:
1. michigan
2. michigan
3. iowa
4. michigan
5. sanchize
6. drew brees’ gay ass huddle chant
7. michigan
September 10th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
I can’t help it. I’m a completely rational person until the subject involves my sports teams and Beiber.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
4. Jets
5. Maroon 5
September 10th, 2010 at 10:54 AM
That just hurts my feelings.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Everyone’s favorite things to rip on in this order: 1.) ND 2.) The Catholic Church. The first one is stale. The second one, I find kind of offensive.
I’ll amend my previous statement to say that you’re apparently also totally defensive about your god, and how you choose to worship.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Be honest. You love ripping on Iowa. Target practice.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
That left guard for the Saints is gigantic, dude was blowing shit up. He was tossing the Willaims boys around like they dont weigh close to 400.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
i FUCKING LOVE ripping on iowa.
and i forgot to mention the meth swilling, cousin fucking appalachian steeler/OSU jr. fans too.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
The Saints are the 2nd best team in the NFC
/Go Pack Go
September 10th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
I don;t like any religion being ripped, just like I don’t like anyone spouting religion publicly. Both are kind of tasteless.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
If I didn’t exist, would this still apply? I mean, we’re the same thing as Wisconsin. Seriously. And you LOVE Badgers. Especially honey badgers.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
I don;t like any religion being ripped, just like I don’t like anyone spouting religion publicly. Both are kind of tasteless.
well, for future reference, anything you think is no good is part of my religion, so back off. Stay classy.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:59 AM
if you didn’t exist, i wouldn’t waste a nanosecond thinking about iowa, so yes…you’re the root of that evil.
but i do love badgers…that much is true.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Am I done for the week, or can I still pick Sunday’s games?
If I’m done consider that your head start for the year!!
yeah sorry Ty, done for week 1. i left messages on here and on that site to make sure you picked before the NO game
September 10th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
/Fixed
September 10th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Natch. I’ll take it. It’s like when Red Sox fans boo Jeter. I know it’s out of respect.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:02 AM
respect? HAH.
good one.
/im getting my ass kicked in iowa aren’t i?
//practices krav maga
September 10th, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Carl Nicks. He had first round talent out of Nebraska but got in trouble. Some people say he’s gonna be a better guard than Jahri Evans.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Easy Hoss, the Badgers don’t take credit for Big Ten championships they didn’t win…they’ve also beaten Ohio State more than once in the last 20 years
September 10th, 2010 at 11:07 AM
what’s it been…twice? thrice?
September 10th, 2010 at 11:08 AM
53 hours, 6minutes, and 24 seconds…
September 10th, 2010 at 11:09 AM
You talking just football or all sports? Because, personally I can tell you this is not the case.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Whatever is is, it’ll be one more on 10/16.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:11 AM
’99, ’01, ’03 and ’04 (probably the only Big Ten team to beat Tressel three times, no?)…could have in ’08 too, that one pissed me off
September 10th, 2010 at 11:11 AM
31-13.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:12 AM
na…PSU has too.
September 10th, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Iowa has beaten Penn State 7 of the last 8 years, thus, by extension, making us better than Ohio State AND the Badgers.
Where’d my straws go?
September 10th, 2010 at 11:19 AM
yeah sorry Ty, done for week 1. i left messages on here and on that site to make sure you picked before the NO game
No problem Irish, I saw those messages, just got busy….this will be the comeback of the century….
September 10th, 2010 at 1:24 PM
I had Saints at -5 1/2
If anyone sees Garrett Hartley tell him he owes a lot of people in Vegas money