A Conversation with ESPN’s Desmond Howard
ESPN college football analyst Desmond Howard was out promoting the Mayhem Football Challenge this week (yes, we’ve already signed up) were given about 20 minutes to speak to the former Heisman Trophy winner (and Super Bowl MVP). We talked about what his recruitment was like, the Herbstreit-Les Miles-Michigan fiasco, and of course, a college football playoff.
Q: As a Heisman Trophy winner, any thoughts on Reggie Bush giving back the Heisman? The idea of him giving it back seems kind of silly, doesn’t it?
Howard: That deal is between the Heisman Trophy trust and Reggie Bush. I think that if he was found guilty of using some sort of performance enhancing drug, then I would say it’s a no-brainer. Because that’s something that affected his play on the field, which is why he won the award. So outside of something like that … my opinion is if it wasn’t performance-enhancing drugs, but a rule that was violated … that has nothing really to do with football, it’s just a rule to keep control … then I can’t say he needs to give it back. At the end of the day, we all know what Reggie Bush did that year. Those highlights, those replays …
Q: You’re from Cleveland, Ohio. Why didn’t you end up at Ohio State? Can you talk a little about what your recruitment was like? Do you recall any recruiters who made a lasting impression on you?
Howard: My last year of playing high school football was the Fall of 1987. I graduated in 1988. In 1987 Ohio State fired Earl Bruce and they were bringing in John Cooper. At that point, I told my dad, “Ohio State is off the table.” He asked why, and I said I didn’t want to be in part of a rebuilding program. Cooper was coming in from out West, and none of us really knew much about him. I just didn’t want to be part of a rebuilding program, I wanted to go somewhere established, where the coaches had been in place for awhile. I never even took a trip to Columbus. The first time I set foot on that campus in the Horseshoe was in a maize and blue uniform.
I was heavily recruited as a tailback – we were always ranked in the USA Today Top 25 – and the one guy I remember who stood out as a recruiter was Nick Saban. He’s cool with me today. He was coaching at Michigan State – I believe he was the [defensive backs] coach – and he was a heckuva recruiter. People said, “if you liked Nick so much, why didn’t you go to Michigan State?” Well, he wasn’t the head coach. But he was so good he got me up there for an official visit. I had a fantastic time. I really enjoyed East Lansing. But once you sit in front of a man like Bo Schembechler, all bets are off.
Q: As highly-recruited as you were, there had to be coaches or schools making some … how do I say this politely … “promises” to you or your family.
Howard: I feel cheated right now when I see all these guys getting all these benefits and I wasn’t offered anything! And some of these guys don’t have the talent that I had. I really feel cheated. I’m like, “are you kidding me? That guy?” But this was back in 1986, 1987 … there wasn’t that kind of thing going on in the east and midwest, if I recall. I think some shady dealings happened in the South at SMU or something, I’m not 100 percent sure … but I think the teams in the midwest and east played it by the book.
And with the agents, I was fortunate – I played for a coach who was a zero tolerance, no-nonsense guy. When you have a guy like that, you will be amazed at how shady people stay away from you. They know you won’t put up with their BS. Bo Schembechler had that kind of respect.
Q: We asked readers to submit questions on twitter for you and a couple folks (presumably FSU fans) wanted to know about your beef with Terrell Buckley of FSU. I guess he had a big game against you one year? Any of this ring a bell?
Howard: Great cornerback. I saw him the other day, was just talking to him. Great guy. We never had any beef, I don’t know where that comes from, but it was obviously a big matchup when we played against each other. In the game you’re talking about, I think he picked the first pass and took it for a touchdown. I ended up catching over 100 yards and had two touchdowns – in both of them, he was on me. All you have to do is go back and check the clips. He was on me. Go check ‘em out. He was checking me both times. But they won the game.
Q: How often do fans ask you about the Kirk Herbstreit-Les Miles-Michigan story?
Howard: It really doesn’t come up much anymore. That was what, three years ago? The truth came out. I think that’s why people stopped asking about it. Once the truth comes out …
Q: But conspiracy theories have been floating around, and then there was your interview with a Detroit paper, and there are people who still believe maybe something weird went down behind-the-scenes …
Howard: But you don’t say that when the truth comes out. You say that if there’s speculation, but when the truth comes out … it didn’t just come out from the two of us, but it came out from the people who made the decision. I had nothing to do with that whole thing. I found out the that they hired Rich Rod when I got off a plane. I was going to Lubbock, Texas to interview Michael Crabtree. When I landed, my phone was blowing up. You guys in the media knew he was going to be Michigan’s coach before I even knew.
Q: Well if Michigan struggles this year, you know Les Miles is going to come up as a potential candidate. Do you give him an edge because of his Michigan background?
Howard: I believe any former Michigan player who has experienced a certain level of success in the coaching ranks is definitely a viable candidate.
Q: Would you ever endorse someone to be coach at Michigan? Or because you work at ESPN, would you avoid it?
Howard: I’m not in the endorsing business.
Q: But people lean on notable alumni all the time for their thoughts …
Howard: I’m not in the endorsing business.
Q: There’s this sense that college football is at a crossroads. Between BYU going independent (who knows if others will blaze that lucrative trail) the Big 12 nearly breaking up this summer – it still could happen – the Pac 10 adding teams, talk of Superconferences, constant chatter about scrapping the archaic bowl system for a much-needed playoff … do you sense something big happening in the near future?
Howard: Excellent question. I don’t know how much more time we have to tackle something like that, but … I guess we just missed something seismic with the Superconference or Megaconference, however they want to title it. If they threaten enough times … then maybe something is actually going to happen … I think we’re all sitting back to see what is actually going to transpire.
Q: Are you a playoff guy?
Howard: I haven’t seen the playoff formula that answers all the criticisms of the BCS. Once you show me that … but at the end of the day … look at Final Four. They’re still adding teams. They’re never going to make everybody happy.
Q: No, but you can determine a real champion with a 16-team playoff, retain the sanctity of the regular season and have meaningful December football with a playoff. We all know a large portion of those bowl games are irrelevant …
Howard: Sixteen teams? When are you going to play all these games? It sounds great, in theory … but where are you going to play all these games? How are these fans going to travel? You want these kids to play a 12-game season, or 13, and at the end of that, play 3-4 more games? Is that what you’re proposing? That’s too many extra games. You want these kids to play what could turn out to be 17 games? I have an issue with that.What about studies? What about the academics? What about finals? There’s a lot involved in playing a few more games. There are a lot of logistics involved.

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September 3rd, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Any Open post today? That Harrison kid is awesome.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:04 PM
I can just see DW doing the Heisman stiffarm as stuffs the 16 team playoff question.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 PM
The game where I became a spartan fan. Nice “catch” by desmond around the 5:15 mark.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 PM
or DH*
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Desmond Howard is not in the endorsing business.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:08 PM
I have a newfound respect for Howard for understanding that logistics is an integral piece of the equation.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 PM
traitor.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 PM
I wish there were time to put Howard’s last answer on the Death To The BCS book jacket.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Desmond, well done.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Excellent question, now allow me to not answer it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Q: How do you feel about Charles Woodson’s stolen Heisman?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Great interview TBL, awesome stuff.
hinting at Harbaugh no doubt.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 PM
I give TBL props for asking the 16 team playoff question but even more props for Howard shooting it down in a heartbeat.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 PM
hell yeah
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 PM
if Stanford blows this year, ya still want him?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 PM
harbaugh…about your anti pryor stance from last night…is that just typical michigan butthurt or were you watching a different game?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 PM
Q: But people lean on notable alumni all the time for their thoughts Howard: I’m not in the endorsing business
not endorsing, but he will predict # of wins it will take for Rich Rod to keep his job on the Rome show
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 PM
I now have an even bigger respect for Desmond Howard.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 PM
Who says Stanford is gonna blow?
He has made that program relevant again and has beaten a lot of teams that had much more talent.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 PM
Harbaugh!
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 PM
No, but you can determine a real champion with a 16-team playoff, retain the sanctity of the regular season and have meaningful December football with a playoff.
I can’t believe that you asked him about the playoff format you came up with with your 5 year-old nephew.
Solid interview though, too bad there was no mention of his Super Bowl MVP.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 PM
nobody.
Willingham
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Love the dejesxion on Lou Holtz’s face after that catch.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Super Bowl XXXI Return > Hello Heisman
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM
That game against overmatched Marshall does not impress me. Their DBs were getting burned on every play and he was hitting wide open guys. I will be sold on him if he can do the same thing against Miami, who actually has the talent and speed to present a real challenge.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM
I thought him doing the Heisman against the Lions was better.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM
So has the internet lost? And if so, does that mean the war is over, and we can finally pick up the pieces?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM
My God, what a terrible throw on that Buckley INT.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:19 PM
wasn’t that 1 vs 2 matchup?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:19 PM
Willingham had a decent run at Stanford, brought them to a BCS game. Granted the Pac 10 was super weak, but that was still impressive.
It was Walt Harris who imploded that program.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Woodson?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Do the Heisman on that ho!
Good stuff from Howard. TBL, I liked the questions but I would’ve liked to ask him his thoughts on Rich Rodriguez.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 PM
but my point is, that he had similar success. that’s all. then went to ND and fell apart.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 PM
gino toretta not available?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 PM
I wonder if TBL was pissed when Howard shat all over his playoff question? Well done, Des. Well done.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 PM
no Desmond. he returned a kick against them the same year as his Super Bowl MVP and then struck the Heisman pose.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Que?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 PM
I don’t get it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 PM
College football! Fuck yeah!
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 PM
gino toretta not available?
radio host Gino Torretta
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM
That’s right. Late in season.
Woodson did it last year on Thanksgiving.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Good point on the extra games. Howeva, you mentioned something about studies as a counterpoint. We know that is not the case, tutors were invented to help athletes play sports and pass classes.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Yeah, you know what I’m saying, struttin’ Leo.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM
that’s fine, but on the other hand what exactly impresses you about miami?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 PM
One of the better interviews in a while, nice job. I do wonder if Howard feels as strongly against “playoff” formats that don’t involve 16 teams and up to 4 post-season games for teams.
Putting money on Oklahoma (-33) tomorrow.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Kinda looked like an NFL player that wears green and white.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 PM
his td pass to galloway was glorious
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 PM
I think by “studies” he clearly meant “charade”
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:26 PM
spence, pryor still isnt a top 10 qb…remember when you said that last year? that was funny…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 PM
that’s fine, but on the other hand what exactly impresses you about miami?
first shutout since 2006. boom
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 PM
That one fan threw a kid one handed down a section of seats, that’s impressive.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 PM
TBL, we went over this on twitter. I argued that I hate the term “more deserved champ” and you agreed. But it looks like you really do think a playoff = a more deserved champ. I just do not agree with that at all. A playoff is one of MANY ways to crown a champ. Just like a first past the post system of elections is one of MANY ways to elect a politician.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 PM
I love the strutting Leo next to crying Dawson Leery
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 PM
Fuck Yeah Struttin Leo will do his fuck yeah strut into your office and give you a Hurtz Donut.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Kinda reminded me of the Rock/Mankind empty arena match. Gotta love Shane-O-Mac on commentary.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Why do people always lift their leg when they do the Heisman pose? Here’s a picture of Rashaan Salaam’s (ha, ha, ha) Heisman trophy. Notice that both feet are on the ground. If you want to lift your leg, do the Captain Morgan pose.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Agreed. The NFL is so much better about that stuff.
/Favre’s last throw’d
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 PM
I’m impressed per se by them. However they have BCS talent and speed – something marshall lacks. Miami’s D-backs won’t be trailing Sanzenbacher by 10 yards. If TP abuses Miami’s secondary I will be impressed.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28 PM
meh…last year was pretty shitty for QB play. still wish i had that back.
+1
and i didn’t mean that as a shot against the U, just that, perusing UM boards, it seems that they’re more impressed by miami’s win over an even MORE overmatched opponent, and really, i just wanted to insult michigan a little bit. go UCONN!!!
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Affirmation, baby…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Solid interview. I’d like to see TBL spar with Mark May for 20 minutes.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:29 PM
is henderson starting for miami
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 PM
The pin by forklift and the camera up-close shot on the Rock while being pinned by said forklift was ghey IMO.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Negative, but he did get into the game last night.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 PM
So this guy feels cheated because he didn’t get anything under the table or “promised” anything. A Michigan man through and through.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Interesting and accurate point about methods of making a champ. But I don’t think people who advocate against the BCS think the champions aren’t deserving. It’s about deserved opportunity to partake in whatever method you’ve chosen.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Oh for fuck’s sake not this again…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:31 PM
And we’d like to thank Butch Davis for participating, 12 guys ineligible. Wow. Nice knowing you Butch. At least your players at “gutttzzz”
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:32 PM
That one fan threw a kid one handed down a section of seats, that’s impressive
Can you tell if he was a Miami fan though? UM and FAMU haver the same school colors
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:32 PM
Funny as hell to watch in retrospect. I forgot Vince did commentary by himself during the match itself. “What kind of championship match is this? What kind of challenger are you??” Disgusted Vince is the best.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:32 PM
This guys mask > Felix Potvin’s mask
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:33 PM
+1
+1 to that guy for doing it to a pony-tailed bozo
Yes, because it’s well-documented Michigan players have received gifts and “promises” for the past two decades.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Couldn’t be happier with Desmond DESTROYING Jason’s question about the playoffs… why is this such a big issue? You have a good season, you win the Orange bowl. You go 10-2.
What is wrong with that? Do poeple think that the players think their season is ruined b/c they didn’t win the title?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:34 PM
Harbaugh, what OSU fans are saying, is that Pryor had some struggles against bad teams last year. Our offense looked ready to roll from the first play. That’s what we’re excited about. OSU offense is almost never looking like that. Sure, Marshall had something to do with that, but they were a bowl team, they’re not some 1AA team (anymore).
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:34 PM
There’s one way to figure that out.
/Tarbaby’d
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:35 PM
clown – headed to watch Machete tonight. did you already see it?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:35 PM
He wasn’t black so yeah, he was a UM fan. They said the attendance was 53k. Pretty good for FAMU game on a Thursday.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:36 PM
Corporate Vince was so great. The “I have balls size of grapefruits” walk to the ring. And he says “You’re firrrrrrrrrrred” better than just about anyone.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Very good.
Now you’re losing me.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQGQjEBbbiw
/o&a’d
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 PM
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Fuck yeah, ill. Saw it last night. I thought it was awesome.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Ill, I just realized your gravatar is stomach tassles. Good show
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 PM
I understand why OSU fans are excited, totally agree that their offense looked good, O-Line was opening big holes and I was actually impressed by the Saine/Boom tandum. I’m just not ready to crown Pryor just yet.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:40 PM
So you and your group of besties had a good time? That’s pretty sweet.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Best on the net.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Jwoww
http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=42291
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Nice. Machete, The American and The Town are on my list…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:42 PM
What about studies? What about the academics? What about finals? There’s a lot involved in playing a few more games. There are a lot of logistics involved.
Ha! That was a kind of shoddy toalking point. Does he “endorse” going back to an 11 game sched then to save these guys academically?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:43 PM
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:43 PM
TBL was there any follow up response to Howard’s answer that didn’t get printed?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:45 PM
Corporate Vince’s strut down the ramp was great. Hell, he still does it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 PM
No chance, that’s what ya got…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 PM
If JWoww keeps smoking and tanning she’s going to sound like hoarse Barry White and look like the crypt keeper by the time she’s 45.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:47 PM
5:14 mark. Part 2 of that Rock-Mankind empty arena match.
How ‘about some bread, you fat f*ck!?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:49 PM
But her tits will still look fantastic.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Q: So you did not consider OSU because of a coaching change. How did you feel after the 1989 season when Bo retired and you had a new coach in Gary Moeller? Was there much change from 1989 to 1990 even though he was a coordinator?
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Wow, that is so great. I miss my youth.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Desmond: Yeah, Moe actually had more than 10 pass plays in his playbook.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Answer here:
http://mgoblog.com/content/interview-desmond-howard
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Shortly after, he blames Mankind for the sauce being mild. As if you needed more proof the Rock was the greatest.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:55 PM
No one has posted “great get” or “good get”? For shame.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Not an tOSU fan, but Pryor looked much improved….
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:58 PM
great get.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 PM
great get TBL!
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 PM
Great call. Good call.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 PM
Thumbs down.
And just so I understand this correctly, picking teams to play for the championship, decided by arbitrary voters who seem to follow what the crowd is doing, is, by and large, the best way to decide things in college football, right?
I wonder why I haven’t heard much, if any, bitching about logistics in 1AA?
And no, I’m not saying a 16-team playoff is the only way to go, but a plus-one, or a plus-four (from the BCS bowl game winners) isn’t a horrible idea, either.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:00 PM
Not an tOSU fan, but Pryor looked much improved….
let’s see how he does when he’s not playing a team whose defense was decimated by an unfortunate plane crash.
/1970
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:00 PM
An august get, TBL.
/duffy’d
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:01 PM
Attaboy Desmond. Did TBL show him Wetzel’s column though?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:01 PM
I wonder why I haven’t heard much, if any, bitching about logistics in 1AA?
Because they pay players and are dirty. IA has student athletes
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:02 PM
60 more miserable minutes of this hell hole. Switching to Blantons.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:04 PM
Exactly. The whole “playoffs would mean too many games, would be bad for academics” is bullshit. Every other levels has at least 16 teams in its playoffs yet they somehow manage. Perhaps if they went back to an 11-game schedule (if they want to keep conference championship games), we could make this work even better than it would with the current number of games.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:06 PM
Let me chime in with my “good get, TBL.” Seriously, it’s not just ’cause TSH shamed me into it. These interviews are my favorite feature on the site
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:06 PM
football season is officially here. so when do we get the mobile site?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:06 PM
Attendance at the FCS championship last year: 14,328
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:07 PM
When 90,000 people show up to a 1AA spring game, I’ll accept this as an apples to apples comparison.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Attendance at the FCS championship last year: 14,328
Umm, so there’s no playoff in IA because it would cause too many traffic problems?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Since when do the Arizona Cardinals wear black uniforms?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:11 PM
Since it ended there I’m going to assume TBL hung up on him after this.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:11 PM
When 90,000 people show up to a 1AA spring game, I’ll accept this as an apples to apples comparison.
Same amount of allotted practice time, same number of games, still traveling around the country for games… Seems like it’s pretty close to apples as far as the student athlete’s involvement
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:11 PM
I hate to say it, but will say it….. I like Desmond Howard.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:12 PM
@NDub
That just made my day…classic
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:12 PM
Since when do the Arizona Cardinals wear black uniforms?
i thought they were pretty hot. they should rock ‘em more often.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:13 PM
New for this season. Whizzenhunt says the unis, unlike Matt Leinart are awesome.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:13 PM
What’s not to like? Love Desmond
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:14 PM
What’s not to like? Love Desmond
I could see Redskins fans not being enamored
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 PM
And TBL, when you interview a guy from Cleveland, Ohio do you tell him how bad his life must have sucked growin up and that his city is a piece of shit?
/i keed
//Ohio is football USA
///Keep hatin’ kids
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Unless you can get the same fans at each game, you’re talking less $. And that’s what makes decisions. The guys in charge of the BCS conferences don’t give a damn what people like TBL think, because they make no money off of them.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:16 PM
PLSK, I thought Cleveland kids were the snobby ones, looking down their noses at the perceived rabble from Akron?
/ Lebron’d
// Taking my comments to South Beach
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Because all the games are played on-campus (except for championship), and don’t depend on fans travelling…unlike the model presented for a 1-A playoff.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:17 PM
Think that was a link fail, brah. But, i’m guessing it had something to do with his MVP performance in the SB.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Eh, just move around a few traffic cones and that should take care of that problem.
/starkweather’d
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Lefty, why would the NCAA have any trouble selling every ticket and then some, at the same prices that premium bowls charge, for every single “playoff” game? And the TV deal would have to be bonkers. How would this be a net loss to anyone involved in the industry that is college football?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:19 PM
AKRON, WHAT!!!
I’m actually gonna watch high school football tonight, oi vey.
(
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:20 PM
So there’s no way to play a IA playoff game on a college campus. Got it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:21 PM
I’m eating a Pittsburgh Steak salad, it’s damn delicious. But, for some odd reason it still has a little scent of shit to it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:21 PM
and make money like a bowl game? nope.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:22 PM
mldatx is a funny guy
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:28 PM
Who’s gonna work the games? All the students who are either busy with finals or are kicked out of their dorms during winter break?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:29 PM
and make money like a bowl game? nope.
What tiny little schools are going to make it into this thing with homefield advantage? You couldn’t make massive dollars at a Big Ten, Big XII, SEC, or Pac 10 stadium? Are you kidding?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:30 PM
There’s this…and then there’s also the fact that fans generally don’t have the cake to make 3 or 4 trips in the month of December, which is what you’d be looking at for the teams that reach the title game. Which is what you refuse to admit or comprehend. THAT is why the logistics are not at all similar.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Who’s gonna work the games?
Who works the fucking Rose Bowl? You know that’s where UCLA plays all their home games, right? Somehow, at least once a year, they are able to find temp staff for the Granddaddy of them all
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Which is what you refuse to admit or comprehend. THAT is why the logistics are not at all similar.
I comprehend the difference in logistics but it’s not like comparing life on Venus to life on Earth. There is some scalability here. And if this is a reason to completely table the conversation, that’s pretty stupid
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:33 PM
That’s a non-issue, not sure why Clown goes there. But it in no way strenghtens your argument, Stark.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Thats because they were aware of the exact date and time months in advance, as opposed to 6 days notice. And its located in a large metropolitan area that probably has a company that does nothing but staff events, as opposed to small college towns where the employees are students.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 PM
Oh, but you are wrong. In the difference between a 1-A 16 team playoff and a 16 team 1-AA playoff…that is actually the perfect analogy.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 PM
Who works the fucking Rose Bowl? You know that’s where UCLA plays all their home games, right? Somehow, at least once a year, they are able to find temp staff for the Granddaddy of them all
There are fourteen people within one hundred and fifty miles of Columbia Missouri from December 10th to January 15th.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:36 PM
Sorry I abandoned you, Starks. Lunch time and all that.
A plus-four (or one) could use any major sports facility in the country. Cut the season to 10 or 11 games and that whole “making fans travel too much” goes right out of the window as well.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:39 PM
What???? I don’t what cutting any regular season games would have to do with being able to afford multiple postseason trips.
As for cutting games from the reular season schedule…never never never never gonna happen. You think schools are going to give up that payday? Zero percent chance. If anything, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 13th game added in the near future.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:44 PM
So the random 12th game that was added a few years ago was necessary and would make more money than a Plus-One game or the two potential games from a Plus-Four?
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:48 PM
Two playoff games is chump change compared to these 100K seat stadiums all getting to host another home game.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:50 PM
Uh…yes. You realize how much extra cake adding that game brought towards teams’ operating budgets. They aren’t giving that cash up now.
In any event, PP, I see that you are advocating for a Plus One or Plus Four. I have no problem with that scenario, and nothing any of us have been saying about the logistics issues applies to that; we are aiming at the hare-brained idea of a 16-team playoff.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:50 PM
Not only that, the money from a playoff game goes to the conference for distribution while money from a home game goes to the school.